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contender governor john kasich reacts to brand-new fox news presidential poll numbers. "hannity" starts right here right now. welcome to "hannity." new developments that could spell doom for hillary clinton's presidential campaign. the fbi has retrieved some of the e-mails that clinton deleted off her personal server. we'll have more on that with ed henry in a few minutes. brand-new national fox polls were released this evening and it show that the outsider candidates continue to surge among you the voters. zanding by is carl cameron. donald trump and carson and fiorina, rubio and cruz are going to be happy. >> lots of movement and lots of new numbers in the latest fox po polls. trump has gone up to 26%. and dr. ben carson went up 6 percentage points and is now in second place solidly at 18%. both carly fiorina and marco rubio gained ground. they're tied at 9% apiece and they lead the single digits bunch. the rest of the gop field is lower down. scott walker's withdraw from the race is now being seen as something as a potential bump for either rubio or ted cruz or boat. they're both courting walker's donors and stop state organizers around the country. ben carson shows significant momentum in this poll as well as others in the last few day. carly fiorina, of course, did get that bounce from her primetime debate performance last week and now has to build a national organization around it. she's been running pretty lean on the campaign trail in terms of staff and organization, so she'll have to boost it. trump has been complaining that he is the front-runner but people like fiorina and rubio are joining in the headlines. voters are fickle and they turn on front-runners in the last few weeks. anybody with momentum now, it could burn out. anybody who gets momentum then just might wind the nomination. >> too unpredictable. heck of a year. joining me with the latest developments surrounding hillary clinton's server scandal, she's got that, she's got the bloomberg poll where joe biden is not even in the race is within eight points striking distance and answering questions about ed kline's book and did she start the birther movement. she's got a lot of trouble on her hands. >> her campaign, you're right, may be in need of another reboot. we heard about the recent one. it may not be working. you mentioned the e-mail controversy, she's trying to get past that. the fbi has been able to recover e-mails from her server, specifically some personal e-mails. remember she talked about how it was just yoga and other small matters in the personal e-mail that she deleted. now we're told that the fbi is recovering some of them. are there official e-mails in there that were really not personal? that needs to be answered. they're recovering work-related e-mails. will they find more classified information? then you have "the washington post" reports that show that state department officials privately say the reason they sought hillary clinton's work-related e-mail was they were concerned about the fact that she had this other e-mail account, a personal e-mail kkt that they didn't know about. why is that significant? hillary clinton has said something different. her narrative has been, look, this is a routine matter. the state department asking for official e-mail not just from hillary clinton but from other former secretary of states to have federal records in order. state department officials are saying something else is going on. joe biden rising 25%. he's not even in the race, as you said. a point ahead of bernie sanders and only eight points behind hillary clinton with 33%. what's significant about that is in that bloomberg poll she's dipped far below 40%. that's a danger zone for any front-runner. there's a new fox poll out that gives hillary clinton a stronger lead over bernie sanders and joe biden. but again down from where she was just a month ago. remember, she was sort of the overwhelming front-runner a month, two months ago in the 50s, big, big lead. that's been coming down and something she's going to have to stop the bleeding real fast. >> that e-mail issue in the fox poll nearly 60% of people thing it's a big deal and she's lying. >> majority think that she's lying. what i thought was most interesting -- yeah, something like 82% of republicans say they think she's lying. there's a lot of republican critics of hillary clinton, let's be honest. but 33% of democrats we polled say they think she's lying. more important than that a big share of independent voters. the folks who decide a lot of elections, general elections, the folks in the middle that everybody is trying to get in a general election, a big share of independent voters said they think she's lying. that's worrisome for the campaign. >> it goes with the dishonest, untrust worthy narrative that's been going on. ed kline will be on this program next monday. an account released in his book that says she went into the oval office, yelled at the president and basically saying, call the blanking dogs off, barack. and he didn't respond very well to that. >> they haven't said much about that, to be honest. ed kline has written a lot about the clintons and the obamas. you talked about it. the clintons and the obamas don't like to dignify the reports with a comment. is it true, is it false? he writes about a lot of anecdotes where there's two people in the room, much like bob woodward does and nobody knows what happened. the bottom line is this clinton campaign is seeing criticism coming in from all angles. they desperately want to get off this e-mail controversy but it keeps coming back. >> then trey gowdy and that's not going away any time soon. jay sekulow. so if the fbi was able to recover a significant portion, if not all, of the 33,000-some-odd e-mails that she deleted and supposedly wiped clean from her server, and they don't deal with yoga, her daughter's wedding, her mother's funeral or bill clinton, who doesn't e-mail, which is a lie. or certain e-mails that were subpoenaed by different committees. how big a legal problem would she have? because i'm not believing the yoga, funeral, wedding, i'm writing to bill narrative 33,000 times. if these are there, what does it mean legally? >> i think this is a significant development if in fact the fbi has been able to find these e-mails. because it presents what we would call in the law evidence. now, if in fact that evidence includes classified information that was wiped off the server, that, as we discussed before, is a crime. when i was a government lawyer, we said i work for the treasury department as a lawyer. follow the paper, follow the money. you follow where the evidence leads. what you have is the evidence is being recovered. if that evidence shows that there was, in fact, government classified material on there and that it was subsequently wiped off -- >> or subpoenaed. >> as we've already knowned and has been confirmed maintained in a server that was not secured, she has serious criminal liability in my view. very serious. >> so we're talking about also not only would she have violated the law just on that front, when we've gone through a series of laws that would be applicable in this case, but then when we get into obstruction of justice, investigation of a congressional committee, that would be a big issue for her. are we looking at criminal time, possible jail time if in fact these e-mails are not about yoga, e-mailing her husband, a wedding and a funeral? are we looking at jail time? >> one statute itself has one year. another one of the statutes that could be implicated here when you don't have your information secured in an appropriate device or place, or you intentionally interfered with that, which could lead to some of the evidence that could look like that, you're talking about felonies. at the minimum, misdemeanors then the potential of felony. all of this is really serious with regard to potential jail time. but something else, the fact that the fbi is able to recover this information has got to have the clinton campaign concerned because, sean, they were counting on the fact that this was, as ed henry just said, was going to fade away. every day there's something new. now it's the actual evidence. >> i got believe -- >> it will be damaging. >> politically she's got a big problem because these are provable lies now. but criminally speaking, that's the bigger issue for her. >> yeah. it is important. >> why am i having a hard time believing 33,000 e-mails were about yoga, a wedding, funeral and communication with somebody who doesn't e-mail? >> because it doesn't make any sense. >> because it makes no sense. so i have to believe that there are e-mails about benghazi on there that could be quite damning and also criminal. now, what do we do in terms of getting from the point of if she did break the law, who makes the decision if they prosecute, go to a grand jury? >> the department of justice. the attorney general would have to make that call. the fact of the matter is the fbi is conducting an investigation. if it is determined that there is, in fact, as you just said, information that was classified, that was put on improper servers, that were deleted, all of those are separate crimes. i don't see how the fbi, even under this department of justice, could not bring at least a grand jury inquiry, and when that inquiry starts and you're running for president of the united states, a pretty difficult situation. then if there's subsequently an indictment, that's a whole different ball game. but look, i mean, it's not just -- it's not just -- >> last question. >> -- whether they recovered personal e-mails. that won't be big news. the news will be if there's more classified information on these servers that weren't secured and she wiped them or someone on her staff had them wiped, and that person by the way, may not have had clearance, there's a multitude of criminal activity here that will be serious. i suspect that's why joe biden's thinking about running for president. >> if they find them and if in fact it was sean hannity, would they indict me? >> oh, look, no doubt. >> i'm just asking. >> look, i'm not picking on you here, sean, but the fact of the matter is if you intentionally destroy documents, whether it's evidence, whether it's subject to a congressional inquiry or classified information here and you intentionally have that put in a server that you knew was not secure or certainly wasn't approved by the government, that's what the state department's saying, then, of course, you'd be indicted. >> i hope you would come to my defense. >> i will defend you in a moment. >> thank you, jay sekulow. coming up tonight on "hannity" -- >> do you believe that shariah law should be above the u.s. constitution? >> yes. the muslim country, shariah law, it's allowed. other country, no, you have to right constitution. >> we sent our own david webb to a local islamic center to see if muslims thing shariah law supersedes the u.s. constitution. those answers will surprise you. then later tonight governor john kasich will join us. and a disturbing report says the u.s. military is ignoring rampant sexual abuse, pedophilia of young boys by afghan officers on american bases. we'll have that shocking story tonight straight ahead. ♪ ♪ every auto insurance policy has a nuer. but not every insurance company understands the life behind it. those who have served our nation. have earned the very best service in return. ♪ usaa. we know what it means to serve. get an auto insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life. live from america's news headquarters, i'm will carr. tens of thousands of americans showed up today to see pope francis in washington, d.c. the pontiff keeping a busy schedule, speaking at the white house, greeting people along the parade route and celebrating mass at the national shrine. tomorrow he'll address congress before heading to new york city. the suspect in the phoenix freeway shootings has been formally charged. police say ballistics tests tie 21-year-old leslie merritt jr. to the shootings. no one has been seriously hurt in the attacks. the death toll from two of california's most destructive wildfires in history continue to rise. crews find a sixth wbody in a home in lake county. i'm will carr. let's get you back to "hannity." ♪ roll with it baby >> welcome back to "hannity." in the wake of dr. benjamin carson expressing concern about a muslim becoming president of the united states, we decided to launch a special "hannity" investigation to find out if muslim americans think shariah law should supersede the u.s. constitution. we sent out david webb to an islamic cultural center in new york city. watch this closely. >> your thoughts, should shariah law supersede the u.s. constitution? >> no, but i think that shariah law, it's made by god, by allah. and the constitution is made by people. so it's not the same. >> do you believe that shariah law should be above the u.s. constitution? >> yes. yes! shariah law is completely different than the united states constitution. as a muslim, you practice my islamic law as a muslim. united states constitution as a citizen, i have respect of the constitution. in a muslim country, shariah law is allowed. other country, no, you have the right constitution. >> should any religious law supersede the u.s. constitution at any time? any denomination? >> maybe in the future. u.s. constitution deserves all the people living in the u.s. their rights, right? shariah law doesn't contradict with this. shariah law just protects our dignify -- like we are human beings, we're respectful, we have respect from the society. >> you thing thk that the u.s. constitution should be the law of land in the u.s. >> also helps to protect shariah. >> should shariah law be over the constitution? >> yes. every country has different laws, but i respect the law in any country i go. >> do you believe that the tenants of shariah law should be over the u.s. constitution? >> no, no. >> the u.s. constitution is made by people and shariah law is made by allah. that's all the way above. that has to be definitely not for america but the whole world would be above. >> so that should be above the u.s. constitution? >> definitely, yes. >> joining me with reaction, syndicator radio talk show host the spokesperson for the community, harris zafar and david webb. this backs up a poll that came out last year that even a majority of muslims in america think that shariah should supersede the constitution. >> there was no problem getting these questions and answers from these folks. you saw a wide variety of them. we gave them a chance to answer. i have this problem with anyone anywhere who believes that any religious belief supersedes the u.s. constitution. we're a nation where the constitution guarantees your religious freedom and where your religion does not trump it. most people believe that in america. there are muslims who want to live here and live under our constitution, but too much we find a growing number of them that believe shariah should supersede the u.s. constitution and one there -- in other countries, it's shariah, but look at those countries where shariah is the law. >> mr. zafar, while you're more liberal minded if your views, generally speak, we know the application of shariah, renders or relegates women and minorities to second class citizens. that's just the fact when you look at the application of shariah in muslim countries. if you have more than half of muslim americans that want shariah, they're basically saying they don't support the u.s. constitution. where you have freedom of religion and freedom of expression. >> what surprises me, the reason this surprises me is because the most fundamental principle in islam on this subject is that the law of the land supersedes all other laws. there are verses in the koran that talk about government do not talk about any religious involvement mp they say put your trust in those who are in authority in your country. >> wait a minute. the true application of shariah in countries is women can't drive, women have to dress a certain way, they can't be seen in public with men that are not their relatives. in some cases women need four male eyewitnesses for rape. those that leave the faith are viewed as apostate, they're killed for such religious liberty. so the reality is it is at odds with the us constitution. its practical application. >> this is what ben carson was talking about when he said he couldn't advocate for electing a muslim president. this is a very troubling fact of life in society. and the fact that the democrats are attacking ben carson over saying this, i mean, this is a -- shariah law, there's no gay marriage, for instance. abortion, as you pointed out, is punishable by death, blasphemy. no one is talking about rounding up muslims, certainly not ben carson like fdr did during world war ii. but this is just fundamentally shariah law -- >> how are we -- i want to expand on that. because fundamentally the koran and islam -- i'm not talking about radical islamists. the koran and islam are fundamentally at odds with the constitution. isn't that the truth? correct, right? >> not the truth. >> did you ever think, sean, that we'd come to a point in our lifetimes where the constitution and the bill of rights would be on the table? >> no. >> it's just mind boggling. and i can't -- and i don't understand why the democrats are so down on carson. you know, they have litmus tests so called for supreme court justices. if you're against abortion rights, they're not going to vote for you including hillary clinton, chuck schumer. now they have a litmus test for citizens united, the supreme court decision about the first amendment. so i mean, if ben carson wants to make this a litmus test, if you're for shariah law, he won't vote for you? what's the problem? i'm with ben carson. >> by the way, if i ask you, mr. zafar, you know, where are the catholic and christian and protestant and jewish temples in muslim countries and what are the restrictions or what is the punishment for anyone who speaks out against the very extremely controversial life of mohammed. applied currently in muslim countries today. >> right. so what you have clearly and very accurately defined as the system of government in countries like iran, saudi arabia, pakistan, afghanistan, there's a reason why in the worldwide muslim community do we consistently -- >> in pakistan you can't get a muslim funeral -- >> the u.s. -- the united states. >> they just had a -- >> the u.s. constitute coots. >> -- in denmark. they want to make denmark a muslim nation. >> where this needs to begin is that there's a reformation needed. the ama dhea muslims, the soofys, the other groups. just like there's a reformation, it is time for a muslim reformation. but here's my point. in the united states they can plant -- they can create a foundation. >> -- 98%. >> i hear you. >> but it's got to -- >> last word. >> that's why it's important to remember the u.s. constitutes less than 5% of the world's population. obviously they're not unimportant. it's about the world impact. they have built 15,000 mosques in the world. >> you're less than 2%. >> and u.s. is less than 5%. but our significance is what really matters. >> he's a brave man. >> the constitution -- >> saudi arabia -- >> operates a bill in germany for the new refugees. >> we're with you to condemn saudi arabia and its clerics, absolutely. >> 2016 republican presidential candidate john kasich is next. a story almost too shocking to believe. a damning report revealing american troops were told to turn a blind eye while afghan officers on american bases overseas were sexually abusing young boys. you do all this research on the perfect car. gas mileage, horsepower torque ratios. three spreadsheets later you f

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