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they want to keep a check on president obama. this president has put on the american people a change in the role of government in our individual lives and people rejected that last night. >> the congressman elect also has advice for republicans on how to continue to win races in 2014. >> we cannot simply be a party of no. it is not good enough simply to say no to obamacare. one of the things we talked about on the campaign trail were specific solutions to health care coverage issues. we often don't hear about that, but i think substance matters. voters deserve answers, they deserve solutions. >> let me tell you how this is going to go on "the five" in the a block, the four of us are going to make our comments and bob is going to tell us why everybody is wrong. let's start with eric. your thoughts on last night. do you think we can -- anything predictive about the result last night going forward? >> all the democrats were saying it's a one off and all the republicans are saying it's a bell weather. i think it is going to be a thing -- a sign of things to come because we hear of them saying you have to stay on obamacare. that race was all about obamacare. the democrat refused to push back on obamacare. she said they need to fix it, and the republicans say we need to repeal it. so if this isn't a good referendum of what every single republican should do in 2014 elections, you need to use that, take it as a file, read it and go ahead and do it. think about this. that man is 41 years old. he's recently divorced, parading around central florida with a 26-year-old girlfriend, he's wearing a pinstriped suit. he's not exactly the kind of republican you want to go, i love that guy. i want to get behind that guy. yet he won and he won with a libertarian taking 5% of the vote away from him. >> that description. that description, bob might actually like him, i would imagine. kimberly, let me ask you, after last night, do you think that the republicans were a little bit, maybe, getting too confident about what 2014 could look like, or do they have reason to feel good about themselves? >> they could use a self-esteem boost. i hope this provided it. i think it is a significant victory, especially if the president's numbers continue to drop and he still has the problem with obamacare. and for the reasons that eric said, i think that's why it's significant, too. this is nobody who wasn't necessarily a poster boy candidate to go forward, and he still was able to deliver the votes and have a victory. that's why it matters. even more so, to the democrats, because they know they're up against it and it's going to be hard for them to hold on to all those seats. i'm sure they're going to lose quite a few more. >> in midterm elections, presidents and white houses always try to say the election is not about the president. but given obama's situation right now with sinking poll numbers, do you think obama had a lot to do with the democrats' loss last night? >> perhaps, but if you think the obamacare fallout surprised president obama, then you don't know him. he knew this would happen. he accepted this as part of the deal in changing society. a demolition man does not sob when the building falls. he rejoices. so he accepted it. i googled headlines this morning and i googled jolly sink4z÷h s and it came up like 75,000 times. it shows you how unoriginal headline writers are. >> i had good ones this morning, but i resisted all my puns. >> when he said the republican party shouldn't be the party of no, of course they should be the party of no. they should be saying no to everything. they said no to obamacare. i hate saying yes. like i said before, we should run robots. >> i always like republicans, you're guaranteed headlines as a republican if you criticize the republican party. i'm tired of it. bob, let me ask you this, alex sink was the democrat, an accomplished woman. she ran for governor. she did not win, but she won the district in 2010. she was by all accounts, i think, a great candidate for them. she was well funded, well organized. much more so than the republican, and yet they still loss, even with a libertarian candidate taking 5% of the votes. >> let me try to correct a lot of this. let me first concede, i do think obamacare obviously had some impact on the race. no question about that. when you spend $12 million on a race, and other millions of dollars more from outside groups, all directed at obamacare, it's bound to have an impact. here's the good news -- >> about that, that was $12 million total and that was the full amount, $12 million. only $2 million, i think, from within the candidates, and the other $9 million or $10 million -- >> i don't interrupt you when you talk about energy. you're in my wheelhouse. >> am i wrong? >> this district, first of all, nobody is going to spend that money when it comes to the general election this year. but this district has been in republican hands for 50 years. obama did win it by a few percentage points. let's keep this in mind, the total turnout was 170,000 voters. in 2012, it was about 330,000. about half the number turned out. it probably did stir up the republican base. they can take some satisfaction. but the idea of trying to take this race and extrapolate it out to the rest of the country. if it was all about obamacare, you're in trouble with your strategy because it was a close race. >> alex sink was their democrat -- they love this candidate. they really thought -- am i wrong? >> everybody loves -- >> no, the democrats really thought this was one they were going to put on, take an r, make a d on it in a florida seat. they thought they were getting it. they love this candidate and she lost. and she lost fairly handily. >> in a marginally republican seat, in a special election with turnout way below what it will be in the fall. >> i think the fact that president obama won that district twice, and then she won it, i think, now that they had some backsliding means that district might be in play. let's take a listen to what john boehner, speaker of the house, had to say, and then debbie wasserman schultz. >> a big win last night in florida. and i would attribute the win to the fact that our candidate was foiksed on the issues that were most important to the people in florida 13th. that's the economy and jobs. >> that's a republican messaging. congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz is head of the dnc. she said republican special interest groups poured in millions to hold on to a republican congressional district they have comfortably held for nearly 60 years. i bet they had two statements prepared and that was the one she didn't want to have to use. =he didn't want to have to use. to be honest, they put forward a strong, credible candidate. this was a race they should have won, and i think they didn't because of the president, because of the problems with the administration, and because of obamacare. is it insurmountable? perhaps, but the democrats wanted to come forward today with strength and confidence and say, listen, dismiss the naysayers. our party is strong. we're unified. we're not vulnerable to the republicans. thought is not what happened. anyone who woke up and said it wasn't a big deal or didn't matter is not honest. >> i thought it happened the way it was going to happen. the republican was going to win. if you think about it, the race was held at the height of the publicity about obamacare. they spent all this money. you can't spend that kind of money in all of these congressional districts around the country. i agree, and sink was a good candidate. jolly seemed to be an okay candidate. 26-year-old girlfriend? probably should have been younger and should have smoked dope. >> before we get derailed, you said don't mess with me with energy and oil. i'm not messing with you with politics. you're handling another democrat congressman in 2014 in the midterm election. you see what goes on there. you're not going to change your message? you're not going to push far away from obamacare? >> when you win a special election, lose a special election by a point and a half in a district that has been republican, i would say -- you know what i say? we're going to have to structure ourselves to be careful about obamacare, but it's not nearly the big issue that people talk about. >> more money to help her win. >> one thing a race like this can do for republicans, six months out from the midterm elections is momentum and fund-raising. and attracting good candidates. one of the things you have said is republican party has to figure out a way to get better candidates to want to run. do you think with some of the candidates they have now, they're listening to you? >> maybe. i don't know. but can i point out? >> that was a good question. >> it was, but if obamacare isn't harmful to elections, why did they delay the implementation of it until after the election? was it to play hard to get, bob, so people would like it t9 >> i said it did have a marginal impact. >> i want to agree with bob on something. the key to losing a war is exaggerating a battle win. we saw this before, up to the 2012 election. there was a lot of people really cocky over romney. that cockiness led to defeat. making a huge deal out of this is every bit as big a mistake as dismissing it. and the big victory isn't the right or left. it's our adversaries. they have taken advantage of a white house that has become obsessed with the progressive dream. thanks to obamacare, president obama has taken his eye off the ball, and that ball is our globe. >> can i push back a little bit? the thing with the elections, you're coming up for election in november. you have to run ads and you have to run on something. recommendation, i would stay away from libido. i would stay away from contraceptives and the national debt. young people don't want to hear about that right now. they want to hear about how the government is about to saddle you with something you don't really need or can afford. >> you want to run an entire party election on one issue? >> right after. >> it's the principle of individual liberty and the expansion of government, and the expansion of government is based on punishing the individual. it's a very simple and stark choice. they need a messenger to make the message clear. >> and that's a good example of it. >> you would? i'm glad you admitted it. >> this is an encroachment over an industry and it's hurting people. the problem is what we see as a massive failure, the media sees as a victory. that's why the candidate has to speak over the media in order to win. >> what you said is something republicans -- >> you're -- >> i'm talking about entitlements. >> you're being honest, and republicans will not talk about this, but they have the same feeling about medicare and social security. >> they don't have to. obamacare is good enough. >> this is a winnable issue for republicans. hold on, because they have actually -- there has been time enough for this to sort of resonate with everybody, for people to understand, for us to see a little bit of the impact of it. it's an issue they can keep in their head when they go to the voting box. do i want more of these guys, government bloat, regulations, taxes, all of this, and now trying to take over something that should be in the private care system. >> i think because obama won the last two times in that district and that alex sink, the democrat, won in 2010 when she ran, i think the rnc finally, through new efforts, is catching up to the democrats on the most important issue, which is turnout. get out to vote, find the voters and get them to the poll. next, frustrated relatives of passengers onboard the missing malaysian jet want answers and they felt their fury at a latest briefing. >> and later, surprising developments on the teenager suing her parents for money for college. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] help brazil reduce its overall reliance on foreign imports with the launch of theountry's largest petrochemical operation. ♪ when emerson takes up the challenge, "it's never been done before" simply becomes consider it solved. emerson. ♪ emerson. so our business can be on at&t's network for $175 a month? yup. all 5 of you for $175. our clients need a lot of attention. there's unlimited talk and text. we're working deals all day. you get 10 gigabytes of data to share. what about expansion potential? add a line, anytime, for $15 a month. low dues, great terms. let's close! new at&t mobile share value plans our best value plans ever for business. people onboard vanished in asia. families rightfully want answers and they're growing more and more frustrated by the minute because they're not getting them. >> well, that's what happened at one of the latest briefings. relatives threw water bottles. officials don't seem to go where to look for the plane, but they're deflecting the criticism. >> they don't seem to know what you have seen on the radar, and it's taken you until now, five days later. >> i think that's not true. >> i don't think so. i think it's far from it. it's only confusion if you want it to be seen as confusion. >> so many questions, and very little answers. in a lot of speculation. we know this just in from the bbc, that the chinese satellite was able to capture for debris that could potentially be wreckage from the plane. we're getting on top of that, but right now, the families are very frustrated, emotional, upset. >> you said it properly, potentially could be. there's a helicopter pilot a few days ago who said he saw a plane door floating in the water. turned out it wasn't. then the malaysian military said they had a flight path. there was a hard left turn and they had proof of it. today, they said we're not so sure about the left turn, it might have been a right turn. we're not even sure about the turn. it's frustrating for us. even more frustrating, heart breaking for the family members waiting to find out what happened. this is going to be found somewhere, but the misinformation, this definitely never happened in america. >> well, you would think, though, in terms of an international community coming together, trying to pool resources to find answers or rule out some possible scenarios, dana, of what might have happened, we have been getting little bits of information here and there, but nothing pointing to one clear or plausible theory or conclusion. >> right, and i think the malaysians have obviously exposed some weaknesses in their own reporting systems or however they organize their air traffic control and their military communication. and that is frustrating. but i also think that you have seen an amazing level of cooperation and part of that is because of the united states' leadership in sending some of our military there to help. it is in our interest to find out what happened, if it was an accident, good to know. if it's terrorism, better to know so we can try to fill in these gaps that the malaysians have basically showed up still xikt in our structure. >> and breaches of security as well. whether there were certain things that were checked as carefully as they should have been. >> let me say, it is impossible to try to guess where this is. one thing beginning to wear on me is terrorism, which i thought was probably a prime suspect, it's highly unusual for terrorists to do an act like this and not take credit for it. the whole idea of terrorism is to promote terror. the fact that nobody has come forward after five days makes me a little suspicious whether it was an organized terror attack. >> would we hear yet, though? they could possibly be taking credit for it and no one is telling us they are. >> usually, if you look at these things, they come out right away and somebody takes credit for it. that's the only thing i'm hanging that on. >> they look to verify that to see if there's credibility, because there's also in the interest of promoting terrorism, they like us to feel vulnerable and less safe and secure in our airlines and transportation systems. before they release something like that, they have to check if there's a nexus or connection. >> all it takes is for a terrorist group to say we did it. >> it will scare people, but they have an obligation not to release information like that on just heresy. i understand we haven't heard it yet. that could point to terrorism, but too soon to tell. >> the less we know, the more we blow. grappling with an absurdity here in this age of surveillance. a large object disappearing like somehow david copperfield did it. anybody could do, which is nice, is look at the audience and say, we don't know. >> is that actually the most unsettling aspect now that it's five days out, that there really isn't any direction they're pointing in? right away, people think, maybe the plane malfunctions, oh, gosh, i hope it's not terrorism. we still don't know. what about remnants or evidence. even forensic evidence. >> what we can talk about is insuring it doesn't happen again, and how would you do that? forget the black boxes. you need to find out what happened onboard, but there are ways to equip the planes with constant satellite access, but it's very expensive. the question is do you have an international faa that requires all flights to have the satellite link-up. very expensive, if you do that, people like us who likel+v÷ sma governments, less intrusive governments. maybe you say, maybe you leave it up to the individual airlines. but in this case, i don't know, maybe you do require something. >> i think there's -- this is an opportunity for improved cooperation, and there's lots of existing ways to do that through either the u.n., and i'm not suggesting one world government, but there is civilian aircraft and corporate aircraft communication that could be c2>ñ improved. >> one thing greg said that's exactly right, we don't know. if we don't know, we couldn't have the segment, right? but there's one other thing, you said it wouldn't happen in america. twa flight 100 off long island. they still don't have the answers to all that. >> they knew immediately, the ocean was on fire, it burned for five hours. >> for months, it was questions whether it was a missile. >> there's still questions about that, but they found the plane. >> okay. this plane is going to be found. you can't take something this big and make it disappear. they'll find it. >>alize rr a couple things they do have to go on. good threads, they have to check the iranians to see whether or not they had direct ties to terrorism. they have to fully explore that to see if they can rule it out. that's something that at least was of a suspicious nature. and the last was from a communications perspective. 9/11, we were used to hearing communication from the cockpit or from passengers themselves. they said at this point, the authorities have no idea the direction of the missing plane and the last words of the pilot said we have to hand you over to ho chi minh city, and he said all right. >> next, a teenager suing her parents to pay for her education, when she wasn't following their rules. you'll be surprised to hear this one. that's ahead on "the five." stay with us.j6srç [ woman ] i've always tried to see things from the best angle i could. it's how i look at life. especially now that i live with a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat not caused by a heart valve problem. i was taking warfarin but wondered, could i focus on something better? 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