insurrection, but has a collaborated on just when they spoke about. we betsy woodruff swan, she works for politico and covers a junior six committee. betsy, we have a bunch of outstanding requests to jordan among others, including jordan and rudy giuliani, and ivanka trump. some of the sort of big headliners here who have tried to wriggle away or not shown up for the deposition. in the case of giuliani. where does this stand with a certain set of people? >> there's a bucket of people in the committee is treating with kid gloves thus far. and includes as well sean hannity, kevin mccarthy, and one of the big challenges for the select committee is, do they cross the rubicon and issue subpoenas for these people? that of course would be subpoenas that would be -- would have a tectonic event. in the case of involved a trump, clearly they are concerned, it's simply because of the fact that she is the daughter of the former president. they've issued subpoenas to people who were at the exact same level at the white house, if not more senior than her.