getting public support behind what they are doing is a key part of that. and quid pro quo is a strange term that a lot of people don't really use a lot, so is extortion, and extortion is a little bit easier to understand, but another thing that i think democrats are thinking about is republicans are already indicating that even if there was something for something else, they're down playing the significance of that and saying that, well, joe biden wanted something for something else from ukraine when he was vice president. this is sort of normalizing what happened in terms of foreign policy. whereas democrats, i think, are going to want to focus on the strange aspects of this that are outside of the norm of normal foreign policy, and particularly the role of rudy giuliani in all of this and also the whole fact