complicated and to the point about the nbc poll, didn't the president support among latino voters drop something like 9%. that's a scary number for an administration that has rhetorically really committed itself to this community. so it's hard to see politically a way. >> part of the problem as swann was explaining to me yesterday if you took the gain of 2013, not only would you not have as many republicans to support it, you couldn't get all 50 democrats to support it. the middle ground -- we've gone further away from each other. >> the gang of eight bill is entirely unresponsive to the situation today. i wrote in the very first month of the administration this is going to be the issue that sinks them in 2022 if they're not careful. this is no longer the illegal immigration of your unattached young men, singly or in groups,