safe. it's going to take some time to figure out, to account for the ones that are safe, that left before we had a chance to make contact with them. >> the governor says the official numbers versus what he thinks it's going to be, there's a big, big spread. what do you know about that? is that likely that people they're looking for at the candle factory or trying to account for? >> the assumption is that the gross amount of life lost is going to be at the candle factory, just because there was a large group of people there. you know, we hate to -- i don't like throwing numbers on something until we know for sure, because that's people's families that are wanting to know. you know, unfortunately, the loss of life is going to be catastrophic. it's going to be more than one or two, we already know that. and we just hope that the numbers that we've seen don't get any higher. >> we have an issue with this cold. this is a hard thing, because the power is not here, and we were just describing how this infrastructure, on which the power goes. after a hurricane sometimes, you can cut some trees down and put the wires back up, but the polls are gone in some cases.