advocates. because the sleeping giant in this country are poor and low rich voters. real quick, did you know that in florida, it would only take 1% of poor low registered voters, 3% had not vote in the last election, to change the number since they had a governors right? 19%. 1% in michigan. the numbers are there. but we've got to break from this moderate thinking. and it's not even radical, because certainly 80% of americans want a living wage. they want health care. we've just got to have the courage, the moral courage to do it. >> reporter: look, there are many measures by which joe biden, particularly as he got into office, and put that money out, has done a good job with the economy. the criticism, and you can list all of the places that are good. the criticism is the number of people who are still in poverty. that is not a problem you need to this administration. but it is becoming a reflection of the presidency, whether he likes it or not. because that is how the economy goes.