our message with passion or will we be sunshine patriots retreating under adverse fire? good. >> people want to be inspired. >> you are the path to the future. you represent the renewed hope that america can be great again. >> talk of rebellion, of god, of guns, of liberty, of benghazi, of midwifery. of the ancient palestinians. welcome, america, to day two of cpac 2014. it is the election of the old, the new and rick perry's glasses. first on the roster was governor oops who brought a texas-sized rah-rah to national harbor, maryland. >> it is time for a little rebellion. >> it is time for washington to focus on the few things the constitution establishes as the federal government's role. defend our country. provide a cogent foreign policy. what the heck, deliver the mail, preferably on time and on saturdays. get out of the health care business. get out of the education business. stop hammering industries. >> presumably to the relief of much of his audience, this time the governor was able to recall the third item on his anti-government agenda. next up was former arkansas governor mike huckabee who called the irs a criminal enterprise and accused the government of kidnapping children and said the second amendment was the only resort in protecting the last and only resort in protecting american freedom. mainly, it seemed, mr. huckabee was at cpac to talk about god. >> i know there is a god. i know this nation would not exist had he not been the midwife of its birth. i know that life begins at conception. here's what i know. it is time for the government to scale back, not people of faith to scale back. religious liberty should be unimpeded in the nation. this one thing i know, my time is up and i must go. >> hours later, huckabee's biblical counterpart, the sampson to his delilah took the stage. rick santorum, giving advice to republicans on how to run a winning campaign. >> i understand why people come out on the stage and they bang away at president obama. i mean, i know. it's fun. i get that. but that isn't going to win people sitting at home who are hurting. i think we need to take a lesson from someone who is maybe the most popular person in the world right now. pope francis. what pope francis is doing, he's going out there and not talking about what the christian faith is against. he's going out there and talking about what we're for. >> but the last harray of the day was not mitt romney of rand paul. his constitution on freedom and liberty and freedom and liberty and also liberty. >> imagine a time when liberty is spread from coast to coast. will you liberty lovers, will you stand and be heard? we will not trade our liberty for security. not now, not ever. and no man, no matter how well intentioned will take our freedom from us. we must stop this president from treading on the constitution. let us stand together for liberty. thank you and god bless america. >> with me is no labels co- founder and texas chair for freedom to marry and the national political reporter robert costa. robert, i want to go first to mark to get your thoughts. i'm thrilled to be sitting in the same room with you. >> welcome to the great city of austin. >> when did i think rick perry would be over in the washington metro area and i would be in texas? >> parallel universe. >> invasion of the body snatchers. >> welcome to the city where the logo is keep it weird. >> we are doing that. mark, governor perry brought up. he was proclaiming that republicans and americans need a cogent foreign policy. what is interesting to me, we are talking now this week about foreign policy in a way that we have not, i think, in all years probably, and yet, when it comes to republicans, where do you think their hearts lie? are they more with the rand paul retreat from interventionism or aligned with the hawkishness? >> the republicans are more forward leaning. the current events put rand paul in a bit of a box. he is an isolationist. things were headed in that direction. recent events rebalanced that configuration. so, that is why i think you heard marco rubio said that. that is on the table and map and a compelling political discussion and issue likely in the near future. republicans are going to be jumping forward and leaning forward with the exception of rand paul. >> robert. the issue of foreign policy and projecting america's strength. it did not sound like it got a huge reception. rand paul, it sounds from reports, plenty of applause and energy seems to be with him and paul lights, molly tweeted out something. she said the cpac attendance is down this year. they raised prices for tickets to attend cpac. that rumor is because they wanted to keep the paul followers, mostly college kids, from flooding the straw poll. how accurate is that assessment is? >> i think the cpac blessing for senator paul is a curse for him as he looks toward 2016. in gatherings like this, with the raised ticket prices, you have a large contingent of college students and libertarians in that direction. in this group, he is that most popular figure. when you look at the 2016 map, does that libertarian block give him that? doubtful. he is trying to build momentum, but he is one of many candidates for the 2016 that has a real shot. >> i guess you were forced to be further to the right than you would want to be. a mini version of the republican primary. >> sure. >> you know, issues like immigration or foreign policy, which we just talked about, immigration is where the republican party has a lot of thinking to do and moving to do. it was barely brought up. how does the party begin to reconcile concerns on big ticket items when they cannot talk about it in private-ish forum? >> this is the opening bell for 2016. remember, cpac poll winner hasn't won the presidential election or nomination. it's the opportunity to establish that conservative part of the pie that somebody will win and somebody will lead. there will be an establish. candidate. there will be a more moderate candidate. all emerging and fighting for the nomination. it is important, but issues like -- the party has moved. you did not hear much on social issues or gay marriage today at cpac. it is very different than past years. it has moved. >> that's true. >> the things that is exciting for republicans or should be, some really diverse candidates. several candidates who have been around the track. rick perry. last time he had three weeks to get ready. this time he has three years. he is good when he is prepared. >> do you think there is a benefit going to cpac if you want to be a general election candidate and win swing voters. >> jeb bush and others have not showed up. there is a strategy to going and strategy to not going. you have to determine where your opportunities are and likely to get support and make a determination. cpac support and the press that comes out of this is substantial for somebody. >> robert, let me ask you, in terms of marco rubio. he spoke yesterday and we were just going on the air after he spoke. there wasn't a ton of analysis. in the days since, where do you place his star in the universe right now? ascending or holding steady or descent? >> i think it is ascending, but dipped because of the work on immigration. i think marco rubio came to the senate in 2011. he tried to assert himself to a hawk. he moved to the immigration and the right quickly faded. rubio has to have a better message. can he be more than throw some meat on foreign policy issues? can he revive the 2010 personality? >> there was a photo that made its way around the internet of the cpac. the room was effectively empty. you know, what has the attendance been like? any diversity at cpac? >> you have a lot of aging, reagan-era conservative activists. people who have been around cpac for 30 years. you have the college students, although the ticket prices are expensive, they have deductions and they come here cheaply. this is not a party crowd. this is not an republican national convention meeting trying to come up. with a party future. they are here to celebrate and have a little fun. get red meat and toss at rising stars and go home. >> mark, how depressing is that? >> it is not helpful. it is cpac and people recognize what that convention is all about. it doesn't represent the broader republican party. it is a faction of the republican party. >> you know the optics on that from messages. >> if you plan that panel, fill the room with right people. that is 101. mark and robert. thanks. coming up, a live with wikileaks founder julian assange. i'll get the latest on edward snowden and his life. first, president obama holds another phone conversation with russian president vladimir putin about the crisis in ukraine. once again, it is a tale of two readouts. the details on that next on "now." ♪ make every day, her day with a full menu of appetizers and entrées crafted with care and designed to delight. fancy feast. love served daily. but there are some places even mr. clean doesn't want to lug a whole bunch of cleaning supplies. that's why he created the magic eraser extra power. just one eraser's versatile enough to clean all kinds of different surfaces and three times more grime per swipe. so instead of fussing with rags and buckets, you can get back to the great outdoors, which can be pretty great. that's why when it comes to clean, there's only one mr. 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>> it is hard to be the first black president. it is hard to be the first anything. you have two hard things overlapping. a pentagram of pain. you have to remember the campaign and the mild steps they took. you will be like angela basset and shaft. you will take over our children. both reined it in. the idea of a year of action is a great one. every year should be a year of action from the white house. >> three and a half years of action. >> we want all four years to be active. it is the second term. you can let your hair down. they are loosening it up. let's take advantage of the credibility of the story. they have a unique story. the white house can move the ball forward a bit. i like this direction. there is always so much more. >> i will say when the president spoke at the my brother's keeper event, he said this, no matter how much the community chips in, it will be up to these young men and all the young men out there to step up and seize responsibility for their own lives. you know, i talked to some folks. they said that is a pretty conservative message to send. >> a consistent message. he is fond of going into black churches and tell men to be fathers and put the video games aside. part of that is rhetoric and politics. he is playing to the cameras. see how i talk to my own people? look at this. what is more interesting to me about my brother's keeper, the white house and by extension, the government are bringing together things may have already worked and shining a light and scaling on them. we are here in texas. we don't have an excuse not to do things bigger. we know the programs that work. we know the curriculum. we have to take the boot off in terms of criminal justice. if we can get in that direction and not just have a beautiful ceremony, ceremonies can be lovely. if the action is followed through, and we use data and evidence and find out what works for 500 kids in houston and 30 kids in washington, d.c., it would be great. >> let me ask you, bill o'reilly and al sharpton were in the audience. he needs both sides of the aisle to rebuild communities. to say step up and put the onus to some degree on, you know, young black males shoulders, a lot of young black males are saying you are not addressing the systemic racism in our society. i will quote bill o'reilly. >> you are doing this? >> it is like eating fish for dinner. he said this to valerie jarrett. you have to get people like jay-z and kanye west. they idolize. you have to get these guys. to which valerie jarrett said i see where are you coming from. the ideas of blackness that make it to mainstream exude too much of the full range of who black people are. musical taste or dancing or occupational interest, all nuance is ignored. there is bill o'reilly talking about kanye west and getting by from the scene your advi the senior advisers. >> it is like the "avatar" moment. bill o'reilly is not significantly part of the resolution. what is most important to me, when you talk about the syste c systemic. let's talk criminal justice or police brutality. i have a friend dr. goth. they are building a database working with cops to figure out why there is so much the use of force. that can move the needle. when you are not feeling hunted in your own country. if this initiative leads to more programs like that getting attention and getting money, then bill o'reilly's nonsense is just that. he is an entertainer. if he can feel like he is part of the club, let him rock his headphones. >> let him do that if we can do something. >> shine it over here, bill. >> barrett, we didn't get to talk about cultivating wit. >> comedy and design. this is what i started after the onion. we are trying to make the world a fun place. a wittier place. >> enjoy austin. >> thank you so much. we will keep it weird. >> we are. coming up, confined exiled and jailed. those are the descriptions and locations of the three