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it looks like a zombie movie. you know, that's what you're seeing. and the tranq is is everybody laying face down on the ground? >> that's what the tranq is. chemical warfare. is that what the what thy want? >> plus, hawaii. what? >> imagine you hadne you h the opportunity to interview joe biden. there are hundreds of tough but fair questions you could ask. here's a few. whsty diions yd you lie about yt family not taking any money from china whe rom chinn they took 6 million bucks? >> what did you talk about at dinner with your son's foreign business clients? a dinner that you denied ever tookook place? your family got three and a half million dollars from a russian billionaire who you led off the ukraine war s list.n >> explain that, please. why did you keep classified documents in chinatown? you told your white house
tiered system. >> absolutely. >> steve: bernadette, what do you make of the indictment and 37 counts? >> actually, they may have overcharged him but i will be honest with you, i actually think that there are some concerns regarding the indictment. if it is actually found to be true that he was sharing national secrets or sharing defense plans and showing strategies of war it's inappropriate for anyone whether it's donald trump or anybody. if those things are true, we should be taking a serious look at it. if not, we won't. we still live in newark. which means you are innocent until proven guilty. we have to start paying attention to that. >> steve: that is something that jack smith said when he talked a little bit about the indictment last week is he is presumed innocent until proven guilty. let me ask you, norine, what impact do you think this is going to have? you look at the fundraising, donald trump was able to raise something like 6 million bucks
new district? >> absolutely. we would have been welcomed in a lot of different places but we have had to raise, i don't know, 5 to 6 million bucks. in a couple months, i could have done that, but in the end it's time for family. i've got three grandkids now, one is actually saying, there's papa. he's two years old. he's watching right now. >> i'm curious what you think is going to happen to a republican-controlled congress next year. don bacon, a republican from omaha, he said this. we can't have this mindset of burning the house down. we have to be a governing party when we're in the majority. we need folks like upton so other people have to step up. you regularly vote to keep the government open, and you're usually in the minority. i think the last time the debt ceiling was raised, there was only going to be 33 members left. >> maybe even less. >> do you fear that this next house republican majority could lead us to default? >> a lot depends on what happens in november.
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there was polling in the week or so after that debate that actually showed her catching or coming very close to biden for the lead nationally. and there was a sense that this thing had just taken off. and there it was. you had biden and harris and that might be the race. and since then basically nothing has gone right for her. basically, it's becoming an all in bet on iowa for her campaign. it's going to be pay cuts for staff. you go through all the restructuring you're talking about right there. if you want the sort of optimistic note for the harris campaign, it would be this. the race does remain fluid nationally. biden you show still ahead. he's only in the mid 20s. and that's in good polling for him. there's other polling that has him in the low 20s. nobody else has really broken out and run away with this. so there's still some opportunity there. and there are candidates in the past who have really bottomed out and then rebounded. you can think back to john kerry in 2004. of course one thing that john kerry had in 2004, he was able to borrow 6 million bucks against the value of his house. pour that into iowa when he went in there. not sure harris is doing the same thing here. >> by the way, it only works if
actually showed her catching or coming very close to biden for the lead nationally. and there was a sense that this thing had just taken off. and there it was. you had biden and harris and that might be the race. and since then basically nothing has gone right for her. basically, it's becoming an all in bet on iowa for her campaign. it's going to be pay cuts for staff. you go through all the restructuring you're talking about right there. if you want the sort of optimistic note for the harris campaign, it would be this. the race does remain fluid nationally. biden you show still ahead. he's only in the mid 20s. and that's in good polling for him. there's other polling that has him in the low 20s. nobody else has really broken out and run away with this. so there's still some opportunity there. and there are candidates in the past who have really bottomed out and then rebounded. you can think back to john kerry in 2004. of course one thing that john kerry had in 2004, he was able to borrow 6 million bucks against the value of his house. pour that into iowa when he went in there. not sure harris is doing the same thing here. >> by the way, it only works if you own a $6 million house. two things i want to get to with you.
campaign, it would be this. the race does remain fluid nationally. biden you show still ahead. he's only in the mid 20s. and that's in good polling for him. there's other polling that has him in the low 20s. nobody else has really broken out and run away with this. so there's still some opportunity there. and there are candidates in the past who have really bottomed out and then rebounded. you can think back to john kerry in 2004. of course one thing that john kerry had in 2004, he was able to borrow 6 million bucks against the value of his house. pour that into iowa when he went in there. not sure harris is doing the same thing here. >> by the way, it only works if you own a $6 million house. two things i want to get to with you. the new numbers out of new hampshire. and i have never asked you, but i presume you share my caveat and suspicion about national polls. we don't have a national election. >> right. so you put the national poll up there. the race looks different when you look at iowa and new hampshire. new hampshire, there it is right now. bernie sanders. there's two stories i think emerging in this poll. first bernie sanders, about a month ago the news was the heart attack, oldest candidate in the
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