to win, would you run? well, in that case i may. if they had no one. i believe there are some people out there. i hope. let s see first. let s see first. we also talked about living while black and how money and fame don t insulate you from racism. do you think it s harder now or always been there and we re just seeing it because of cell phones. no. i think it s always been there. i think the president in charge now has given people they don t care now, they throw it to your face now. lebron also gave me an exclusive tour of his brand new, i promise school, a joint venture with the school. and the lebron james foundation. tuition and transportation is free for for every student who live morse than 2 miles away. every student gets breakfast, lunch and snacks. college tuition is guaranteed for everyone who graduates. a food pantry for families. parents can get their gets and job placement services. and because how important a bicycle was for lebron, every in escaping dangerous parts of his neighborhood. every student will receive a bicycle and helmet. it is an ambitious project with an even more ambitious future. take a look at our tour. this is the coolest thing. tell me about these shoes. you guys are going to auction these off, right? it s 114 game worn shoes i wore in an nba game. each shoe is being auctioned off and all the proceeds going to the foundation. i didn t know we were going to do this wall like this. this is a surprise for me. i knew the shoes would be auctioned off. i love this right here. they come to the front door and it s like you can walk in my shoes, in my footsteps. you have worn all these? i ve worn all these shoes in a game. they get to keep one shoe and their name goes up there? their name goes right above each shoe. when you see this, what do you think? it s still so surreal. it s hard to be like, this is my school. i never envisioned having a school. i envisioned, you know, being in the community, giving back to my community in some way but i never thought that it would turn into a school, but this is above and beyond. you had this growing up, what do you think? if you had this? you re successful but i think early on i would have been able to start my path earlier in my life and start it a little bit later. but i don t even know if i would have this school if i didn t have the trials and tribulations i had when i was a kid and the upbringing that i had. it let me know when i was younger if i ever had the means or became successful or anything i want to be able to give back. do you ever like look around and get down and depressed? i know you said you always want to be positive with dr. king and those guys when you see what s happening in the country, oh, man, we re going backwards? absolutely. that s human nature. no way you can look at certain things and not feel like, why are we not pushing forward. for me, as one of the leaders of america or one of the leaders of my community, it s my responsibility to stay as positive as i can and let people know we can go further and up and not down even though we feel like we re going backwards and going back to places of slavery or jim crow and things of that nature you want to continue to move forward is important for all of us. do you think we can get back from this craziness going on? i think so. it s not going to be today, not tomorrow, next month. it will be an ongoing thing. it might be after you and me are well gone but if we can look at the positive things we can figure it out. i see president james might be look who s in here. did you see those faces? do you guys know who this is? yeah. who is that? lebron james. come say hi. oh, my gosh! what s up? give me five, give me five. what s up? how y all doing? are those my shoes? yeah. you made my shoe, how you doing? nice to meet you. what s up. how you doing? what s up, everybody. i want your autograph. how you re doing? those are nice. i will have to put those on the wall. did you see the tennis shoes on the wall. we have to make shows shoes and put them on the wall. what size shoe are you? i m a 9, my shoe is smaller than you. size 6? 5? do you love this guy? yes. you think he s awesome? do you watch him play? yeah. yeah? there you go. this is your first day, right? are you guys excited? you re at lebron james school. you did? i saw it on the video, my dad you saw it on the radio? you heard it on the radio. did you know you were going to meet him, though? did you think you were going to meet him? now, you did. what does this do when you see this? this is what it s all about. whatever these guys want, man, whatever these guys want. one person knows me, lebron. she said, are you the news guy? i don t know. i like them all. these are cool. these are the foundation shoes, the i promise shoes right there. you made those? i made those, yes. you made this one? all those. thank you, brother. you guys go ahead and get back to school now. thank you, guys. thank you. you guys are awesome. look at you. a loss for words. oh, boy, sorry about that. he s really generous with his time. he was really generous. thank you very much for that amazing tour and those kids. i m bringing in cnn political commentators. i didn t think that would hit me like that. i saw the kids and i was so excited. i was thinking dealing with this whole race thing, those kids don t care what color he is. they just love him and in his school. he is lebron james. can we learn from all that? isn t that a lesson for all of us? it goes without saying. presidency and he can set the tone. tone does come from the top. it makes it more incumbent on us, all of us in the public sphere and that s all of us, all have a public sphere. like michelle obama, when they go low, we go high. that gives us responsibility to do that. and stand up and push back. we don t have to suck come to that. you re appealing to our better angels. what i said before, isn t there a lesson in it for all of us, appealing to our better angels. i m really wondering, i hope you re right. does it work that way in this day and age when everybody else seems to be playing by the rules except one person or a few people because the president doesn t play by the rules. these athletes or celebrities have individual agency. it is important for everyone to exercise their individual agency. what can i do here locally in my community that will make a i was struck by his tone. he could have sounded angry. he sounded to me really sad and concerned. sad and concerned i think is what defines all of us. we re worried about what s happening to our country under this president and he s clearly worried about it and realizing because he is lebron james he has a voice that will be heard. when he was giving you a tour of the school he used several times the word leader and asking what does leadership look like? leadership is constructive and gives back. there is a certain human being in the white house that could learn a lot what he is saying and learn about leadership. and during the interview, there was no, excuse me, excuse me to jump in. if i said something and interrupted him he kept his train of thought. he knew what he wanted to talk about. talked about the school and he said, yes. it goes beyond the school and kept going back to that. quite frankly, i have to be honest, i was worried his pr A recap of the day s news. that is how active people were. they were at the height of their popularity and they did that. right. sidney pointier and ozzie davis, you name a celebrity, they were on board. they did it and they could have lost everything. yep, certainly did. more than just twitter doing a hashtag or outraged on twitter. or protesting. all those things are important but there has to be more action behind it. stick around, everyone, when we come back, what could the mother of a trump tell all. bob woodward s new book on the trump administration based on hundreds of hours of interviews with insiders. i got that, maybe you didn t. we ll explain when we come back. back with me, it s called fear, based on the 2016 interview of trump by woodward and robert costa where trump says, real power is, i don t even want to use the word here, fear. that is a pretty dark statement, frank. should he be worried how he comes across? trump? he will start worrying? is he going to worry about this book? i don t think he will worry that much because he spent his entire presidency telling his supporters anything they hear about him they don t like is fake and made up. if it s interviews with people not consistently named it will be a he said-they said thing. as i also heard there are documents and things in trump s own handwriting, that s a lot harder to say that s made up and to get away from. what s actually in this book matters so much because donald trump has done such a thorough job telling people his critics is making things up. you remember how he reacted to fire and fury, you think it will be the same thing? i ve given up to engage on how i think he will react on things like this and people who follow him off the ledge. i don t know how they re reacting to it or processing things like this. if it s just falling into the tribalism we re used to, people who hate him love this sort of thing and people who love him discount it completely, then i don t know where it takes us on the political spectrum, if it matters in that way. it may be good juice, we re in this and cover this all the time and you talk about it all the time, it will be good for us, it will be fun to read. fire and fury i think it has to do with what you re going to say, it s just weeks before the midterm but wondering if republicans should be worried about it. sorry. most things with trump end up fallen his favor, his base loves it. here s the thing. first of all, the definition of fear comes because the question is how you derive power. the answer is through fear, right? this is a fundamentally different and deeply starkly contrasting philosophical difference in leadership than what we were talking about in the last segment. his supporters will excuse this but we as americans and everybody needs to think through how the president of the united jits united states thinks his power is derived from fear. rather than citizenry actively bestowing on him the right and privilege to lead. we live in a representative democracy that has certain values and should be reflective of that. it explain as lot psychologically. this is a man who compliments putin and dictators who murder millions or jail millions of their civilians without fair trials, i m looking at you china and north korea and russia. duarte of the philippines. it tells us a lot about how the president if you didn t already know and paying attention cares and thinks about authoritarians and admires them while having much less respect for leaders of democracies and our allies around the world. it s also him prioritizing emotional responses over intellectual ones. we often don t talk about that enough that he s not an intellectual person. all emotion. because he doesn t have that, falls back on the emotional part, understands it and knows how to work that system rather than cerebral system. not just emotions but negative emotions. which brings us back to the books title. we have gone from a president if you associated one noun with him it was hope to a president who now has a bob woodward book about him titled i think hugely appropriately fear. hope to fear. says it all. the president tweeted about the july 20th meeting he had with salzburger and salzburger urged the president to stop attacking the media and he tweeted they spend much time talking about the vast amounts of fake news being put out by the media and how the fake news has morphed into a phrase enemy of the people, sad. he has his definition of what fake news is, wrong, right? the question is, i mean, why do this? it was an off the record meeting, right? he puts it on the record by doing this. he s the one who started calling people the enemy, the press the enemy of the people and he s the one that twisted the definition of fake news. why is he now doing this? when i read that tweet, who knows donald trump is not much of a wordsmith so reading tone into a cluster of donald trump words is a very dangerous game, i thought that tweet had a sort of proud tone to it. i ve invented these terms, fake news and enemy of the people, by god the chief representatives of the new yorkers came in and we got to talk about my vocabulary. left out of that tweet is what they were talking object, our representatives, charles and i work for the times, you created a climate journalists are in danger and have to worry about doing their jobs and there are security guards. fascinating because if you read our publisher s account of the meeting only after donald trump had broken the off the record agreement, they said mr. president, you have to recognize there are now security guards outside newspaper stations where there weren t before rather than him saying it s terrible to here, oh, they weren t there already? like a child s fascination he thinks we ve been living in this climate a long time. no, president trump, you created this climate of fear. you created this climate. there weren t security guards when you walk into the building and weren t security guards as there are now in most operations on every floor or journalists who have private security guards now because of this president. i am one of them. i speak the truth here. you created this climate. it s a power trip. he wanted to say, i summoned them to the white house, they came, and i told them all the things i don t like about them and here is the evidence of it. it was a power trip. he put it on the record because he wanted everybody to know he had asked them to come and they had come. do you remember after the election, he summoned all the journalists and anchors to trump tower. i was one of them. i kept sleeping. i m not getting up and doing this, i know exactly what he wants to do, get us there and berate us and call us fake news. a lot of people went, i don t know why, i said, no, and i kept sleeping. i agree with lebron james, do you really want to talk to someone who will use you as a prop unless no people are smart enough to know when someone is using you as a prop. you know when someone there s a possibility someone may get something out of having a conversation with you. this president did. he has never demonstrated an ounce of contrition about anything. that means you cannot trust that. i can you hold until after the break? seriously. when they go low we go high, that s what i m going to say. we ll be right back. i mean, to answer, lebron james says he won t sit across the table with donald trump. if anybody will have influence over donald trump unless they have a nuclear arsenal, it s lebron james. people with wealth and celebrity and fame and that is the person that will have more influence over the president, even if it s momentary. beyond that it s the symbolism, the coarseness of our rhetoric that we can tune out people we disagree with, we don t engage and no good will assumption for the people we disagree with. i think it s a better tone for lebron to say we get along because your intentions are good. we could have a real debate on the issues. this is not what this man is doing, right? you can t talk about human beings the way this person has and never take it back and never apologize for it and expect me to treat the person who s devaluing human beings with humanity. i can t do that. i don t know what that means or how that operates. there is a difference between sitting down as a journalist, i think, interviewing him and challenging him with questions than going to have a conversation like that because he s going to use you, he will use lebron james. it can be private. you don t have to know about it. he will tweet about it. [ laughter ] this is dilemma of this presidency, there are a lot of people that want to continue to show the office of the presidency respect because they feel that s important for tradition for the future yet this is a president showing the office no respect. how do you then relate to him in way that is respectful of the country bill clinton, they literally said the same thing about bill clinton. bill clinton had many many flaws. relatively speaking it s unfair to say it s the same with bill clinton. i m not likening it, not apples-to-apples, but literally republicans said the same thing. i hate to cut you guys off. less than 100 days before the midterms and biden and obama are having lunch in a bakery in d.c. what are you suggesting? i m asking you what is going on? is there something more? they re reminding voters of a different day. also, joe biden is running for president. thank you. do you think he s running? that is a staged viral video to announce your presidential intentions if i ve ever seen one. it s a visual that s a lot of carbs. joe is a nice guy, however, i would love for the democrats to have a new crop of candidates. this idea of the whole leadership being a whole different generation than where the energy is is so out of sorts and problematic. i agree with you. just a question. you have to pick the person who can beat donald trump. maybe people think he s the best person. what anybody thinks at this early stage doesn t matter. it won t be who we think it is. someone will emerge who will be the candidate. that person will do maybe they will win whatever they will do their best. it s all about juxtaposition. all about how much contrast i love it when you guys stop by. next time you re paying for dinner. wait, no food here. you re paying for drinks. you got it. thank you. when we come back, president trump threatening to shut down the government if his border wall isn t funded. is there a battle brewing within the president s own party? 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keeping up with you. believe me, i did not plan on that tonight. i did not get the dress memo. sorry about that. we needed a little laugh. mike, why is the president threatening shutdown of his own party. i want to disagree with you slightly not many people want to hear this. the president s immigration proposals all poll close to 60%. he wants a deal on daca and border security and wall and wants merit-based immigration and get rid of the visa lottery and give those to people legally in the country. that program is actually popular with independents and republicans. of course with the base. i m talking republicans in washington, dude, you think lawmakers really want to deal with the government shutdown. that was the crux of my question. i agree with that. his immigration policies are popular across the country. the process for getting to them it is messy. this is one of the few ways to leverage them, i will shut the government down. no one in congress wants to do that. i suspect he in the end won t do this and continually making this point and sending a message to them them he wants to get serious about border security to unlock this immigration problem they have. we will see what happens. i don t think it will actually shut the government down but is leverage he can hold over the congress to get what he wants. late june, 57% of a gallup poll, 57% of people say they do not want a border wall. as far as conservatives, i m not sure. 73% of republicans want a border wall to your point. most people in america don t. the entire country wants border security. what s important to keep in mind if you continue to play that sound bite, he did was very forceful where he stands with regard to shutting the government down. when he was asked by a reporter about that, he said it is open for negotiation, not a red line. in my view, this is another way for him to be firm on something that got him into the white house. you think it s a good negotiating tactic? it certainly gets the attention of those in congress. they don t want a shutdown now or ever and they certainly don t want one leading into midterm elections because they understand how difficult that will be for republicans. talking to many members of congress this evening since he made this announcement, they view this as a wake-up call. they need to get together on this. 70% of americans do feel we need to provide protections for dreamers. that beans daca. we need to incorporate daca into this conversation and also as the president said all those things mike talked about, ending the migration, visa lottery and protection for dreamers and funding that wall these are things the president is firm on and will make that front and center? congressman, go, what do you think? three months out, this is a message reset by a president suffering from historically unpopular numbers. the tax bill is not working, facing questions by mueller. did not get obamacare repealed. he has changed macroeconomic policy republicans have believed in for decades, this is a message reset for something that purely works with republicans. the other element is donald trump is very selfish, he is willing to throw his own party, the party he hijacked to the wolves to protect his own popularity numbers. the shutdown is terrible for republicans. i ve been through 20 years through shutdowns, presidents win. usually it s a divided government. this is a republican president and republican congress. donald trump is willing to throw congressional republicans into the lion s den to protect popular numbers going into the last 90 days? more when we come back on the border wall. when i received the diagnoses, i knew at that exact moment . i m beating this. my main focus was to find a team of doctors. it s not just picking a surgeon, it s picking the care team and feeling secure in where you are. visit cancercenter.com/breast you may choose any doctor that accepts medicare patients. you can even visit a specialist. with this type of plan there are no networks or referrals needed. also, a medicare supplement plan. .goes with you when you travel anywhere in the u.s. call today for a free guide. last cycle, it was the threat of syrian refugees. and we demonized middle east refugees who were fleeing for their lives. if you look at the data, it was actually the lowest crime rate of a population in the united states was the refugee population from the middle east. now, they are demonizing central american families who are trying to save their families from crime and poverty and get their kids to a better life and we re separating them at the border and demonizing them. we can have a merit-based system, and certainly we should reform legal immigration, but what this president has done is finally given permission to speak to these very dark tones of race and nationality and there s no getting past that in the trump administration. mike, the man in that clip, i forget his name, waters, could have picked any country, for example, there, but he picked an african nation. what does that say? well, i can t speak for jesse waters. i think that s unfortunate and he shouldn t do that. what the policy is saying, we shouldn t have a via lottery, which just randomly selects people from around the world and allows them into the country, regardless of need or merit or anything else, and actually what the policy suggests is, those immigration numbers won t go away, they d be added to the people that are in line to speed up the people that are legally trying to enter. it is setting an example through policy to say, not a random system that was created in the 70s, but a system of people that are trying to enter the country legally that are waiting should be rewarded for going through the process the right way, because we have a country of laws and we want to reward the people that do it the right way. i don t know why you would use that particular example and he certainly should be more eloquent in describing what i think is a great policy, and like i said, polls over 60%. alice, to be honest, doesn t it sound like he s saying what the president said when he said, why can t we have more people from countries like norway instead of i think that was not an appropriate comment whatsoever and that s not unusual for him. that s just how he is, but i think to mike s point, and i think the focus should be more on what this merit-based system is about, and it is about not looking at where a person, the geography of a person, but their desire and need to come to this country under legal means, assimilate into our country, learn our language, have a job, become educated we would do that if we wanted to hire someone for a job. we shouldn t have any different standards for people that want to come into this country. that s the focus and the priority for a merit-based system. a merit-based system similar to canada, by the way. that s their system. i understand, but not everyone who is coming into this country, you know, and a lot of your ancestors, i would think, were not not to disparage you, and immigration is not like a job application, it s not like you are picking people for college, to go to work for a fortune 500 company. i don t think, you know, income and educational level and all that is that something we really want to put as part of our immigration system? congressman? no, so, look i disagree and i think there s a middle ground between merit-based and creating a diverse legal immigration system. but there is an incredible legal distinction here that republics ignore and half the caucus doesn t understand, which is the difference between legal immigration, those seeking to immigrate here and those seeking refugee status. what has happened under the trump administration is, we have victimized refugees. those that are looking to save their own lives and their families lives. we have conflated them with a group of people who are looking to simply immigrate to the united states like they may want to immigrate to any other nation in the world. that is where trump has failed to lead. our policy victimizing them by tricking them into policy supported by republicans. we have ports of entry. i got to go. but you know what, we should look at people who are mike, turn away a family at the border. you turn away that family at the border, because i wish, if i was a father in central america, i had the courage to do what these parents do to get their parents to the united states. you re willing to turn them away. david, the policy encourages them to do that. i m sorry about that, we re into the next show. but we should look at people who come in and stay overstay their visas. that s a big immigration problem, but people don t want to talk about it. they just want to talk about people coming across the border because that creates fear and drives people to the polls, but take a look at that if you want some fact-checking. good night. . . .
verifying the vote was more complicated than expected the commission chairwoman said the unusually high number of candidates was causing delays in the verification process. but a spokesman for the opposition said the situation was unacceptable and suggested that something unusual was going on it is everyone citizens right to demand that the results are produced in reasonable time ok the fact that the results far right is central that it s just next door to zach had not been released by off by by midday today is inappropriate and suggests that something wrong is opening we ve been here before. as tensions remain high in the country the international community is becoming increasingly concerned with governments calling for restraint on all sides. well for more tonight i m joined by eddie cross he is a member of zimbabwe s opposition party the movement for democratic change and he is a former parliamentarian mr cross it s good to have you on the program tonight the opposition your party is claiming that this long delay in releasing the presidential results is a sign of fraud has this election been rigged. the city being manipulated. whether it s been rigged in a traditional way isn t is a moot point i think it s been running very intelligent and and i think they re going to get away with it but as a consequence is a great deal of suspicion and cross and anger at the results that have either he said or from mr cross that s as quite a statement there they re going to get away with it so in other words the ruling zanny party with mr manning gone as president is going to get away with an unfair election result well they ve done that five times in the last twenty years every election i ve participated in this country since independence has been wreaked to some extent and it s become the norm and it is the norm in many african states. we re struggling to get back to a democratic environment and it is just a struggle this is this is not something it s going to just happen because people are going to suffer in in terms of getting back to a democratic country and this is just another step in that direction we were struck today by how quickly the military was called out to deal with protests relating to the election i mean that is an extreme measure for any government to undertake soldiers firing shots at their own citizens is that for you proof that the president has no intention of going anywhere. no i don t think so and we had live ammunition used in the food riots in this country along a long time just just before in b.c. for refugees or authorities want to hold asylum seekers there while their applications a process which can take up to eighteen months they will deport anyone who s rejected critics say that this system will get a why new arrivals. for many refugees arriving in germany in future this is what home will look like this reception facility in a former u.s. army barracks in the bavarian city of bam bag is the model for the new refugee centers to be known as sentences the acronym stands for a rival decision and return the key idea various departments which look at asylum applications will be together in one place migration agency labor office well federal authority even the cools the claim is that will mean applications of more quickly as high as the us those with these centers the migration agency will in most cases be able to issue documents in three or three and a half months when the people are to be granted refugee status rejected them. this new approach is the latest chapter in germany s effort to deal with migration since the increase in the numbers fleeing to europe and the government s decision in twenty fifteen to open the borders the challenge of making migration on this scale work has become clear in many cases it has taken too long for people to find out whether they have a chance of staying in germany and that in turn has held up any chance of them finding a job or integrating into society. the residents of the anchor facilities will be able to leave to go shopping or for other reasons despite that critics say they have tantamount to deportation centers. the plan is to open these facilities all across germany but in most parts of the country that will lead to a massive worsening of conditions for asylum seekers. currently holds around turn germany takes a lot of time or will they become holding sentence for those who are rejected for the long term and that is not a good idea because that was in very oblique way attention if i if i hear you correctly i mean that means you have some doubt about whether or not they re working it sounds like and this is just a political tool used by the country s interior minister who of course zahle for he was from the very is that what we re talking about here is just a political to to to make his constituency happy and nor what he can be against accelerating inside of procedures least of all the people who want protection and get protection they have a decision to better but if these centers are presented as the solution to the problem of returning those who are rejected then it s a bluff because the real problem the returning people who have rejected for asylum is their relations with the countries of origin and not just read no it s really not france nor germany has solved this problem without cooperation by countries of origin. return is impossible right and the sentence will not change that all right stand by we want to talk about many of the migrants that we are now seeing come into europe are coming via a new route they re using spain as a gateway to europe now they re travelling the short distance by book through the strait of gibraltar from morocco spanish coast guard rescued nearly a thousand migrants last weekend alone the refugees there choosing this route as other countries such as italy crackdown on iran. rescue teams have just pulled another twenty one people from the strait of gibraltar off southern spain they consider this a slow day compared to most but these twenty one arrivals present a problem for spain the maritime rescue service wants to take these migrants to the nearest port but the port refused permission a common occurrence forty. of them are. over the course of the entire past year we ve rescued sixteen thousand people but this year after just seven months the number has already climbed to twenty two thousand. or so. the ship carrying the rescued migrants docked at the nearby port of august the rest instead but the situation there is no better the migrants had been stuck on the ship for days now they re on land looking for shady places to rest. a few kilometers away jose antonio gomez is waiting for the daily food delivery more than six hundred rescued people were brought to this gym over the weekend. they called us on saturday and then the people came they were simply too many of them. local authorities are responsible for looking after those arriving the church has prepared food volunteers are helping out but people are getting impatient. when we aren t eating well we don t have a proper place to sleep to aren t enough clothes and we can t call our families to reassure them that we re still alive. spanish authorities are overwhelmed after talking to migrants it s clear that the strait of gibraltar is gaining in popularity as a crossing point. i was going from ivory coast to libya but they told me that morocco would be a better idea. refugees want to go to say now before they chose libya or italy but that was just thirteen kilometers lie between africa and europe that spain southern most tip the country once again has become the gateway to europe for thousands of migrants. i missed you see we ve got a new way for migrants to get into europe are we going to have to come up with a new dio the way we did with turkey i mean how does your deal with this new form of migration. well it would be incredibly helpful if the european union would have or would not do the things it s been talking about for three years we need two things to solve a crisis like this the ability to quickly decide who of the people who arrive need protection in europe and who doesn t if it takes like in italy in recent years four years until a final decision is made it basically we don t need insight into something anybody arrives stace you need speed so we need speed and we need to organize this in the way the dutch have put it beside in six weeks including appeal but in spain or italy or molto and this requires a european effort so that s the first thing secondly once we have a decision and then a lot of the people who are now coming to spain who came to italy out from countries with out high recognition rates senegal southern nigeria ivory coast these are not countries where a lot of refugees come from if we would then decide quickly dead one in ten gets refugee status the others don t and then we need agreements with those countries of origin they dined interest of those countries to work with us and that meet requires them to take back their citizens after a fixed date so it s a limited number if they do that less people will come and in return we should offer them legal migration quote us that want to be done in a relatively short amount of time but i m sure we ll be talking about that again but i hope this chance is an opportunity to do it because spain once and needs a solution that is humane and works mr joe canal s director of the european stability initiative we appreciate your insights tonight thank you you thank. are you going to go over to helena now and she is that the leaders from the u.s. fed and i think we re talking about interest rates we sure are brant the u.s. federal reserve desiring to leave its key lending rate on hold for now now after its regular policy meeting the fed was upbeat about the economy citing strong consumer spending and business investment a strong jobs market and inflation near its two percent target that probably puts the fed of course for a september rate hike off to its next meeting now fed chair german powell said at the start of the year that interest rates would continue to be raised in small order it steps they now stand in a range of one point seven five to two percent off a small hike in june president donald trump has warned against further hikes fearing it could slow economic growth. let s go straight over to our financial correspondent so fisherman skiis on wall street for us sophie trump seemingly intervening there in central bank policy is there any sense that the fed actually listened to him took his concerns on board. i wouldn t say so first of all monetary policy in anything concerning the fed is usually not anything for the president to comment on the independency off the fed has been has high and last years and decades so it could be freed from the whims of politics now trumbull once again is breaking the rules and surveys show investors disapprove larry summers who last served as president obama s top economic adviser told c.n.n. money that nothing of this kind have happened in the past twenty five years one concern might be that the fed will now be reluctant to slow the pace of rate hikes even if it is thinking that this is the best thing to do right now it will look like they are responding to political pressure that is what summers said i think the fed is going to do what the fed has to do and the thing that they now raise didn t raise these rates is just a sign that they keep doing what they were planning to do anyway it doesn t imply that they actually listen listen to the president let s face it the trump the fed rather has rather a lot on its plate right now the fed warning against steps towards a full blown trade war for example rule so hearing rumors at the same time the trial will raise further tariffs against china so what is what are investors making of that. well markets were slightly negative on wednesday but movements also came from more earnings as investors are focusing on how companies have been performing that being said it seems to me that this new round of terror groups would be a part of a negotiating strategy that tramp administration is trying to force officials to back to the negotiating table through these threats of even higher tariffs but china fed on wednesday that blackmail wouldn t work and that they would retaliate on their side. it s a vision for us in new york good as ever to talk to thanks i think. the european commission says us so we being important to the e.u. have almost quadrupled commission presidential go to youngcare held it up as a sign that the e.u. is in their promises made soon us president donald trump last week in an apparent effort to dodge a trade war between the two sides donald trump has certainly disrupted global trade flows especially when it comes to soybeans u.s. soybean firmus of seen prices for their produce plunged by twenty percent after their prime export market china imposed high tariffs in retaliation for u.s. tariffs on chinese goods the trade has almost ceased the e.u. was quick to take advantage of the cheap the u.s. crop something that must have been clear to commission president john claude younger last week when he promised trump the e.u. would step up u.s. soybean imports the latest figures show that that process was already well underway . today that you can commit commission has published the latest figures on e.u. imports of soybeans showing an increase of two hundred eighty three percent in imports of slayer beans from the u.s. bringing that used to a sheriff in parts of u.s. soybeans to thirty seven percent from nine percent just one year ago washington had already promised twelve billion dollars to compensate farmers hurt by the dispute with china but with harvest time approaching many of the most still uncertain i think there s maybe just a little bit of comfort there knowing the administration is backing farmers but you no longer weren t looking for any kind of an aid package we want markets to work and markets to be in china was us soybean farmers main market and it s doubtful increased e.u. imports can make up for the loss soybeans made up sixty percent of u.s. agricultural exports to the country. beijing meantime has ramped up domestic production and lowered import tariffs on other producers and one side effect of the dispute is that countries like brazil are emerging as the winners brazilian soybean exports to china soared twenty five percent in june. today the first of august is earth overshoot day now is the day that humanity has used up all natural resources that the earth can regenerate revive to stain a plea for this entire year from now on we re moving into well what is essentially deep debt current estimates suggest we would need one point seven earths to satisfy our needs for one year now in one thousand nine hundred seventy while consumption much the renewable resources available since then well consumption has risen continuously consuming the equivalent of five earths worth of resources in one year alone the united states uses the lion s share germany while it uses three planets when it comes to china you can see there two point two that is phenomenal when you compare it to a country with a population the size of india which only uses zero point six all the planet in the same period now the planetary overload can only be slowed by a drastic cutting consumption by rich countries when we talk about energy food and other resources we need to cut back on all of them and we need to combine that with a massive global increase in sustainable production as well are that some food for thought for you back over to brant now what are we doing to ourselves thank you. well swedish police are hunting the. jewels in a daring daylight robbery of the thieves took the royal regalia from a cathedral near stockholm and then they made a getaway by boat or jet ski on a lake police are now appealing to the public for their help these are what the robbers got away with two crowns and then orb dating back to the seventeenth century during the rule of king karl the ninth and queen christina they were taken from the historic hilltop strong us cathedral around midday on tuesday where they had been on display that cathedral about an hour s drive from the capital stockholm was reportedly open to visitors at the time with an event being held in a site chapel the jewels were in a locked display cabinet connected to an alarm system reportedly the theft was only noticed after an eyewitness saw two suspects fleeing the scene and alerted authorities the robbers are suspected of fleeing on bicycles to the nearby dock of lake mullard where they then used either a boat or jet skis for their final getaway the bikes have since been recovered. reports say forensic technicians have completed their investigations police are now turning to the public for more leads a police spokesperson said the objects are national treasures and would probably be very difficult to sell interpol is also on the case. well the olympic committee has announced that it will be to host the winter olympics in twenty twenty six a joint bid will be launched between. all three locations. previously hosted the competition. for. the bundesliga mode by offering young fans free entry to almost all of their home games this season. five thousand capacity olympic stadium. but we re the only club in the league last season not to sell out a single home game they re hoping that this will convince young fans to adopt as their team but even. they still have to pay to see how to take on germany s big to munich. of the top stories we re following at least three people between security forces and protesters. but the opposition says the poll was marred by fraud the result. the people of the world over t.w. on facebook and twitter was up to date and in touch from the us. and gemini live. at any 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said the unusually high number of candidates was causing delays in the verification process. but a spokesman for the opposition said the situation was unacceptable and suggested that something unusual was going on it is every citizen strike to demand that the results are produced in reasonable time ok the fact that the results far right essential that it s just next door just have not been released by upright by midday today is inappropriate and suggests that something wrong is happening we ve been here before. as tensions remain high in the country the international community is becoming increasingly concerned with governments calling for restraint on all science. well for more tonight i m joined by any cross he is a member of zimbabwe s opposition party the movement for democratic change and he is a former parliamentarian mr cross it s good to have you on the program tonight the opposition your party is claiming that this long delay in releasing the presidential results is a sign of fraud has this election been rigged. i think the city being manipulated. whether it s been rigged in a traditional way isn t is a moot point i think it s been running very intelligent and and i think they re going to get away with it but as a consequence is a great deal of suspicion and process and anger at the results that have been already so far mr cross that s as quite a statement there they re going to get away with it so in other words the ruling zandu p.f. party with mr manning gone as president is going to get away with an unfair election result well they ve done that five times in the last twenty years every election i ve participated in this country since independence has been wreaked to some extent and it s become the norm and it is the norm in many african states. we re struggling to get back to north kiev who province of the democratic republic of congo there s been an outbreak of the deadly disease ebo twenty six cases have been reported of those twenty have died just a week ago and help we can bowl in another part of congo was declared over the u.s. president has called on attorney general jeff sessions to end these special councils a so-called russia investigation trump wrote in an early morning tweet sessions asian stop this rigged witch hunt right now before it continues to stain our country any further. a ban on for face veils has come into force in denmark the government says that face covering garments like the niqab and burka prevent women from integrating into danish society several other european countries have instituted similar brands some danes are planning to defy the new law but vary of has become the first german state to open a controversial new processing centers for refugee authorities want to hold asylum seekers there while their applications are a process which can take up to eighteen months they will deport anyone who was rejected critics say that the system will get a walk. for many refugees arriving in germany in future this is what home will look like this reception facility in a former u.s. army barracks in the bavarian city of bam bag is the model for the new refugee centers to be known as anchor centers the acronym stands for a rival decision and return the key idea various departments which look at asylum applications will be together in one place migration agency labor office well federal authority even the courts the claim is that will mean applications it dealt with more quickly. with these centers the migration agency will in most cases be able to issue documents in three or three and a half months whether people are to be granted refugee status rejected. this new approach is the latest chapter in germany s effort to deal with migration since the increase in the numbers fleeing to europe and the government s decision in twenty fifteen to open the borders the challenge of making migration on this scale work has become clear. in many cases it has taken too long for people to find out whether they have a chance of staying in germany and that in turn has held up any chance of them finding a job or integrating into society. the residents of the facilities will be able to leave to go shopping or for other reasons despite that critics say they have tantamount to deportation centers. the plan is to open these facilities all across germany but in most parts of the country that will lead to a massive worsening of conditions for asylum seekers. currently holds around fourteen hundred migrants if things go smoothly similar centers may be opened in of it is at least the goal and it is the goal of interior minister as a whole for whether they will actually speed up the whole process that s obviously something that we still have to wait for because they have only just started as we saw in our report and this is only seen as a test phase which if it is successful could then be may be applied in other parts of germany but it s important to stress that this is only one pot of the whole asylum procedure in germany that may decide the case of a specific individuals in germany but then if for example their side of application is approved then you have the big challenge of integrating them into german society on the other hand if their asylum application is rejected you then have to return them to their countries of origin and that is obviously another big problem because in most cases you have to have an agreement with those specific countries so yes it may speed up the process but the challenge still remains a big one for germany and the centers they are the brainchild of the interior minister horst zahle for he comes from bulgaria and so far we only have these centers in bulgaria are we likely to see them elsewhere. not at the moment because of the issues that i explained but it is important to understand why the very obviously one issue is because most refugees came through bavaria in the first place but obviously the other issue is that very. very important regional election in october the c.s.u. of a varian conservative the system will say to you they have been losing ground in five areas to for example the a it difficult for germany they have been complaining on a platform that is all very focused on restricting the entry of refugees and that is probably why the interior minister has been presenting also these ideas that ultimately want to present a more restrictive policy of immigration in germany or correspondence almost bear on the story for us tonight here in berlin thomas thank you swedish police are hunting seeds used priceless crown jewels in the during daylight robbery the thieves took the royal regalia from me cathedral near stockholm before making a getaway on the link would be the remover book or a jet ski police are now appealing to the public for their help in reclaiming the precious. these are what the robbers got away with two crowns and an orb dating back to the seventeenth century during the rule of king karl the ninth and queen christina they were taken from the historic hilltop strong us cathedral around midday on tuesday where they had been on display the cathedral about an hour s drive from the capital stockholm was reportedly open to visitors at the time with an event being held in a site chapel the jewels were in a locked display cabinet connected to an alarm system reportedly the theft was only noticed after an eyewitness saw two suspects fleeing the scene and alerted authorities the robbers are suspected of fleeing on bicycles to the nearby dock of lake malar and where they then used either a boat or jet skis for their final getaway the bikes have since been recovered.
up on the show today. we discover why people are. not. possible and why. they might be cute but a few titles on the web people often aren t aware that they should not kill the animals or take them back home in the coastal town of what tumble in kenya and organization is trying to protect this my way in creatures its workers collect them from the sea shore and release them back into that natural habitat that s the kind of. races across the sands to its new home the indian ocean conservationist. if such is fighting the job well done but back in his office he seems an emergency call he turtles were coming up to nest on the beach here in the what henri national park. a times they would get so people became quite upset about all of that and sort of patrolling the beach at night and that s how the first program started everything back in the day started. here. by the local fishermen he drives through the village buying up titles that have become trapped in fishing nets each title saved the fisherman between three dollars to ten dollars depending on size and location the. weight and tugged they bought are not going to be let. people really know what importance title how in the ocean you have to understand when the importance of it so we it was really hard for them to do what we are doing topics: Shea butter is good for more than just skin; Doing Your Bit: Cleanup flash mobs in Zimbabwe; Spirulina, an algae superfood for Africa; Saving Kenya s. today a green bottle needs medical attention this clinic is a safe refuge for ailing tuttle s. brings them to a rehab caretaker. if attacked out there. if it happens. it. may at some point confuse with its natural diet with plastic. in one court. and be slapped with a twenty thousand and a fine or first life imprisonment. trust community a very leads a program that aims to teach local villagers alternative ways of finding a donor by finding indigenous drop resistant. so there are a lot of fishermen so if the country find enough fish they might decide to kill the turtle instead and sell it. we have to teach them about alternative sources of cleanup flash mobs are taking action in harare. in symbolic ways capital the waste disposal system doesn t work as officially as it should. so there s a new trend citizens cleaning the trash themselves. members of a local church scour this parking lot close to a shopping mall. there mormons and for them although god may work miracles they also believe that your own responsibility to clean up the neighborhood. another example and environmental n.g.o.s also getting in on the action. some trailblazers show others how it s done. and how to use a mask to protect yourself against diseases. the whole idea works suddenly other spontaneously help cleaning up so it s no longer cool to just sit around and watch while others do the dirty work of cleaning up. i m losing like that. if you are also doing your view tell us about. visit our website or send us a tweet. hash tag doing your bit we share your story. she is just sixteen years old but she s already started how in business week ali is there right nick farms fish using aquaculture the waste from which feeds the hydroponic vegetable enterprise has a double use in times of drought in south africa that s right as she has great success to what side i would a thousand fish has now roll into a business that supplies about six stalls and because he says neighborhood yes south africa s capital pretoria what would you say a great idea. i her passion is farming fish reka lisa reineke a is sixteen and still at school four years ago she started implementing an aqua panic system on her father s farm in pretoria south africa it combines conventional aqua culture like raising fish in tanks with hydroponics cultivating plants in water she started out with a thousand fish now her experiment has grown into a business that supplies fish and greens at the same time. i says and you see by me this time because you look so you can be in your backyard or when you do you really you know this is the you can feed about four to six times people on everything the basis you can make the place in the south sustainable with fish and vegetables stagehands i tend to indicate that you believe i alternative systems like this one are especially important as south africa suffers from one of the most severe droughts in its history. many farmers have lost crops and animals due to the lack of water. we make getting no where near the rainfall we should be getting at this time of those of the year the season and it s only a devastating effect on me and on the water table holes are drying up one of the things we re going to be doing the speaker that she learning up wolf trying to. get a little bit more water out of it. we have to bolster literally draw it up and that we can even use aqua panix as a reliable alternative especially in dry times the uses what she calls a decoupled system in order to save water it s a simple way to recycle used water back into the system we send all that wood to to a friend tank it then thousand to ten from day it s been filtered through this system the problems of diesel over a new chance and then also in eight hours cycle that was the steam that then what it was in the fish so since being loose in this world just back to the fish tanks so this is basically a big big filter or in a natural way she can say it s a big way to. another advantage you can grow anything from cucumbers to tomatoes and lettuce releases vision is to roll it out to places where people are poor and water is scarce. he added loads of wanting to this is to me only once a week you need to twenty five liters of water that some day you can have your fish and vegetables in your backyard and you can sell the salad to have an income as well in south africa is still in its infancy so far there are more than one hundred ninety freshwater and over thirty salt water opera culture farms official see a lot of growth potential in panic systems. we have aquaculture our in this campaign we also have programs whereby jerry and i wouldn t companies who actually go and hold to hold their families hand by hand to advise them on how to start on our next farm we give them step by step excise i do not think think that the government has helped enough. especially for young up coming into premier s who needs funding he needs financial advice i don t think i ve got enough help and advice from the government in south africa. with or without government support rick elisa run a co will continue her business and passion growing vegetables and farming fish on a big scale. thriving green is a project set up by german students developing especially breeder of all ga that could soon be used to help feed people in barren and drought stricken regions initial pilot programs already underway in kenya s took on a region thriving green students see cultivating all gee isn t all hard work it s also lots and lots of fun just a few final adjustments then there detector will be ready for a test run. a device allows the students from regensburg to determine how many microscopic algae are present in a water sample and not just any algae but a very specific kind spirulina algae are also now being grown in kenya. via the internet the students in southern germany are monitoring the growth of the algae in a basin they set up in kenya that way they can alert their african collaborators to the best time to harvest it spirulina tastes like salty salad but packs a much bigger nutritional punch. from that comment which people you know one hundred grams of spirulina algernon s have more than sixty grams of protein and six month that s six times as much as eggs and spirulina also has a lot of essential vitamins that people here are often missing the invention evicted fearon. to occur in their county and northern kenya is an extremely hot and arid region it borders on the world s biggest desert lake but lake took on as water is becoming more and more say a line salt has accumulated in the dry soil making it useless for growing crops people and animals in the region suffer from hunger and malnourishment in april twenty seventeen the students set up the first basins through their start up thriving green financing came from crowdfunding donations and prize money the project only uses materials from the region because ultimately the people who live here will have to be able to run the facility and make repairs the first basin was up and running in just three weeks after construction began. water is becoming more and more say a line salt has accumulated in the dry soil making it useless for growing crops people and animals in the region suffer from hunger and malnourishment in april twenty seventeen the students set up the first basins through their start up thriving green financing came from crowdfunding donations and prize money the project only uses materials from the region because ultimately the people who live here will have to be able to run the facility and make repairs the first basin was up and running in just three weeks. after construction began. to hope people will think it s ready and. you know what i m looking forward to going to school although . it was for you know we go one two three. many of the villagers turned up to watch as researchers outside city and yet exceeded the fifty square meter basin with spirulina cultures it s filled with salty water from lake took. us for some just mud to spec and the three kilometer we got the first basin up and running and saw how quickly and at what kind of scale the biomass started to appear and we were pretty amazed by this seeing algae grow in the lab in a test tube is one thing experimental at the speed at which the algae reproduced and several thousand liters of water well that s a natural wonder those two holes. from the. thriving green wants to extend the farm until it can eventually supply spirulina for four hundred people the micro algae reproduces all on its own through cell division and every part of it can be used the only input is water and has to be changed occasionally because evaporation otherwise causes the salinity in the basins to rise circulation also mixes up the water algae mixture which promotes growth. the spirulina can be harvested every twenty five days. aside from goats beans and corn a little thrives in the region around lake took on a new approach. that. even so the people here are a little suspicious of the bright green algae at first but they soon lose their reservations people weakened by malnourishment can be helped back to strength by the nutrient rich food stuff. i guess and if you like it yeah i love it you know what s going on i thought those. thriving green and the people around lake talk cannot have developed recipes together when mixed with corn meal and water powdered algae make scent alicia s flatbread. youngest indices and over half a million people in kenya s turkana region suffer from malnutrition even more and other east african countries fresh water is increasingly scarce in many regions especially in developing countries so we think that algae farming has potential but can still help the farmers have received requests to set up facilities in ethiopia and bolivia as well. nigeria has one of the highest rates of deforestation in the country s population is growing rapidly and i would call it is expanding to meet demand but it s a vicious circle before station courses so i leave ocean on sunday worsen feels the need for more land our next report shows just how dramatic the situation is caught in the act the ranger tells the men they have no rights to be here. on the. the forest guards can rest them because they have entered a strictly reserved area the cause of a forest in a new state and federal dollars are the annals of what went on the other policeman to do consider to quote the protection zone as part of a wider strategy of the nigerian conservation foundation the ngo hopes to save the diminishing forest in the country each year nigeria loses more than three thousand square kilometers of woodland only seven percent of its land mass is still covered by trees the foundation a set of grass roots because of asian comedians to help to protect the forests the chairman fred explains the zone system of neighboring going to get a forest that covers three hundred fifty square kilometers divided into three times we are transitional and causal yeah we are transitional. where we re plant. last. july august so we are also intense or blunt. last. august. so we are also intense or blunt one with your trees this year the transitions season of the most human activity farmers are allowed to plant crops here in the close supervision however one major concern is arsenic people sneak into the area to set fire to the land and drive animals out of the brush they also go to the forest to light up the forests because. for four on the months it has been made me. into projects them vicious goal of the nigerian prince of asian foundation is to have twenty five percent of nigeria s land mass covered with forest again within thirty years that s about the will of the nigerian prince of asian foundation is to have twenty five percent of nigeria s landmass covered with forest again within thirty years that s about four times more than now. one approach is to ban all human activity and let the forest regenerate itself every adult every leave every warning type of valuable year so the commitment is i believe just released on porch that this way where. those things will be like beef the next step will be to plant more than two million trees over the next three years to ensure the survival and growth of nigeria s forests. cher bots are becoming ever more popular in africa for cooking i mean. but the award of the share not. a body of all my energy and that s why it s made into charcoal in book enough. to stop the resulting deforestation what i m doing. the group is training the women to make the top. recognize that the thinking here. on this one a live tree is more valuable than the dead one. sacks of charcoal selling on the side of the road go for bargain prices it s charcoal made from she a word some producers are allowed to cut down trees selected by the forest authority the producers pay a fee for every tree they cut or bullet from keep it on the ground and. women who cook in the big restaurants would have made govern save a lot by using sheer charcoal that s because it s very slow burning at last for a long time in the oven. so not surprisingly she trees are often cut down illegally either for personal use or by people looking to make money. so has a huge problem with the forestation over one hundred thousand hectares of forest disappear every year. we ve adopted various measures to try to reverse this trend but it s true that illegal logging is still taking place in our forests this is what i don t see. her working together with the state to finally put a stop to this phenomenon in burkina faso. these women are collecting the fruit of the sheer tree ready to turn it into she a better product you. many cosmetics and creams in the little honey do sabir each text the quality of the fruit he works for a local ngo c.e. s it s training the women creams the little honey do severe each text the quality of the fruit he works for a local ngo c.e. s it s training the women to produce more and better quality she of butter this will allow them to increase their income making their families less likely to cut down she trees illegally the ngo has taught the women to process the fruit as quickly as possible before it can be attacked by insects or the kernels begin to germinate. we used to gather the fruit into a heap and leave it until we were ready now we boil it up as soon as we ve collected it and then put it out to dry in the sun the butter we get now is much better. in the capital walk into sells all kinds of goods made from shiah butter ranging from baby care products to vaseline and shampoo shiah butter is an important export product but the owner is already feeling the impact of the illegal cutting of shia trees with their production output has gone down compared to ten years ago and that s reflected in the price we used to pay three hundred to four hundred francs for one now we paid double the price because the product has become more rare. and that s because there are fewer trees and. see a lot of. protecting the trees is the name of c.d. s here in the southwest of the country the ngo recently installed a modern shia but a production unit here to use to bury has been training some of the women from the local village of. crushing the shia colonels provides the raw material for the better. the work is physically much easier the women are able to put you small data on the quality has also improved so they ve seen their income go up significantly and room while we re looking at the future of our children school fees and health care for our kids. the hopes that by improving the women s financial situation this will in turn help to protect shia trees. it is in part the families of these women who are chopping down the trees so if we can convince them of the importance of protecting the trees they can in turn help to persuade others and when they see they can earn more from the butter they ll be more motivated to protect that source of income and . get on. with the projects in bikini faso count on the women and their families realizing that it s in their own best interest to keep the shia trees a life. that wraps it up for this week s show we do hope you enjoy the last half of reports africa and you so it s bye bye from the ancient city of baby in niger and it s goodbye from me here in my roby kenya we do hope that you ll join us again next week for another had this on all of our environmental and don t forget to speak to us on our social media we love to 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Chris Hayes discusses the day s top news. posing as a romanian hacker. it is a good rule of thumb. it is a good rule of them, and you know, i think, you know, one way or another, they are looking at something serious about roger stone and that seems to be coming to a head. so they are using this collaterally to attack the investigation itself. you know, stone has said that he knows he is going it be or he thinks he is going to be indicted and he is preparing for it. he has had a falling out with nunberg, how do you think he is preparing himself for this? well, he certainly doesn t seem worried but that is kind of within his m.o. but i mean, they are certainly closing in on him even with kristin davis testifying to the grand jury shortly after she was interviewed by mueller, i think, you know, clear indication that they are looking to bring charges against him and similar to manafort, might be unrelated to russian hacking or collusion. and it cullould be something ins past and that is what andrew miller might know about. davis and he are quite close. sure. was she around when you were filming the film? the film before the film if you will, we followed her before her run when she was running against eliot spitzer. the campaign fizzled out because she got ensnared? the fbi sting and was arrested for selling prescription drugs. and she didn t get out of prison until may of 2016. so her knowledge for working for roger. whereas andrew miller was brought back into the fold around the time of the rnc, with roger in cleveland and working for him the months after that are in question ben, one thing that is striking is you have mueller having referred some cases. a number of folks that work in d.c. that aren t paul manafort to u.s. attorneys. referred out the michael cohen matter. this has not referred out. that is right and the reason for that is pretty clear which is if you look at the gru, the hacking indimctment, the link t roger stone is the collusion stuff. and the heart of the mueller investigation is the question of coordination between the russian interference in the 2016 election and anybody associated with the trump campaign. the person who is most clearly identified with that in the document itself is roger stone. and so i think this is the most public aspect we have other than the trump tower meeting of what is really the heart and soul of the mueller investigation and i keep coming back to the point how often he is in contact with senior campaign officials in the indictment of the russian officials. great to have you both. thanks so much. for more in the legal jeopardy. joined by mimi rocah. broad you are assault on the mueller investigation. here is what he had to say. in order to appeal, judge howell s decision, challenging, have to have a contempt order. this is a major precedent set in the case. serious constitutional issues on the appointment clause. they already tried once with the district court. they tried to say, filed saying he is not improperly appointed. now they are trying to escalate. i think twice actually, i believe judge ellis. every reason to think on appeal they are going to get the ruling by the judge will be affirmed. but you know, as ben said, this is the way to challenge it if they want to get it up on appeal. and you know, it is risky in the sense that if they lose that, he has to then either go to the grand jury or go to jail. they don t have to, but the judge has every right to do that. i had many cases in the district court where i was involved in usually organized crime cases where they didn t want to go to the grand jury because it is against their religion i guess. and they were put in jail. and you could be put in jail until you agree to testify or you know, i think there is a maximum of two years that you ar lou loued to be in jail. he says i don t know anything about collusion or obstruction, i don t know why they want to talk to me. but at the same time he says but if i do get forced to testify, i am going to take the fifth. this is kind of hail mary pass. chris, on the off chance that this is successful, the whole mueller investigation is done. it is a wrap. this isn t only about roger miller, this is about whether mueller has the constitutional authority to do this investigation. that s a great point. the argument they are making is an existential assault on mueller s authority. saying it is violation of the constitutional appointment clause to create this body. it is violation of the constitution. and it would probably go to the supreme court. it would get rid of the whole thing yes. it could be the straw that stroke the camel s back or one of those saying. bad for the mueller investigation. but again, we can go down that road. you think it is unlikely. unlikely given this statute was written with concerns in mind about the watergate special counsel. so things written it like the main one being he has to report to the deputy attorney general. and so i think that you know, as the judge said in this case, these are good questions to raise, but no. right. and i think that is where we are with this. i want to ask you about a surreal moment that happened today. sean hannity has a radio show. and the president s attorneys took it over. flynn is the example. no crime. if it had been said, the president said go easy on him. which the president says he didn t say stop it, don t do it. so no crime. however, it didn t take place according it the president. according to comey, it did. of course if it did, it wouldn t have mattered. but you are right. two recollection of a meeting. have you ever in your life seen something like this? no. this is stunning. this act of what they did. they took over a radio show to make arguments on behalf of their client. they took calls. i think giuliani has been skirting the line and in my opinion, has now gone over the line of violating the rules of professional conduct as a lawyer. and i don t know the exact process of who or where that complaint gets filed. but i wouldn t be surprised if somebody did. chris, these guys i was going to say. this is a different proceeding. there is a trial going on now and going to be others and that is clearly what they are doing, poison the well of the american public jury pool. and these guys, they don t need to be on tv. they need to be preparing him for whatever eventuality. he is running scared and that is related to the first part of the segment, roger stone. act one was this indictment of the russians for hacking the e-mail. and act two potentially is the indictment of roger stone. act three is going to be dramatic if it happens. well, and let me say this. they understand, giuliani has said this. he views this as entirely a political proceeding and not a legal one. so he is doing something that is outside the bounds of legal procedure. he is saying that, he is a lawyer. he still needs to abide by the rules. thank you for joining me. testimony about manafort s action while serving in the trump campaign. that story in two minutes. who doesn t love a deal? 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i think i focused on the human contactingi. when you look at people in the face, in the eyes, on their porch. i think it changed people s minds and hearts. they were able to engage me and see that i really do want to elevate them and help them thrive and i believe it is because of that aggressive center door to door. the district is 57% african-american. and amidst this african-american about diversity and representation, you find yourself in a position where you have your own interesting representational role. how do you think about it? i think about it because i grew up in a community predominantly african-american. it is so much in line with the needs and the priorities for my families in the 13th congressional district. i don t think it is so far that i m not african-american. i can tell you that i ll surround myself with a lot of people with that lens of growing up african-american. there is a lot of discussion around the connection and trauma sometimes. i recognize that and honor that. you have agendas or positions that are similar to people more to the left. abolish i.c.e., medicare for all, tuition free college. what do you say to people, people like yourself are feeding republicans a kind of useful caricature of the terrifying socialists who are coming to scare away middle america. we re not scaring anybody away. we re like the mama bears of the delegation about to come. it s. true i don t think you will find any women, especially women of color, that doesn t want to take care of their constituency. doesn t put them at the heart of what they perceive, as they move forward. we ll be able to help every person live in a free, just society. i am excited with exposing who i am as not only a detroiter, a democrat, a progressive, as a woman, to so many people across the country. not just in the 13th congressional district. people should not be afraid us. we are an incredible breed and i can t wait to work with them. to get elected this coming tuesday. i want to walk hand in hand with these beautiful women that the heart that we need in congress. it is something completely missing in the culture. right now president in the u.s. congress. do you think differentfully what your heart and job will be? 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