Cohere it. how do you make it sort of something that is viable for a political campaign environment. you know you could say, look this is a very, very corrupt group of people. this is a corrupt candidate who s own vice president, who all these cabinet members many of them are not supporting him. you know, you need those for strategy and something to simplify. i do think that calling donald trump say a convicted felon is obviously helpful. but it is hard to communicate the sheer sprawling massive material they have to work with. the mendacity knows no bound. beyond the elegant theory that could be useful for democrats there s also the reality that these, these lies hang on republican elected officials. if you follow them upstream, you get to sitting senators. you wrote a piece in the atlantic today talking about the way in which the fake electors plot in wisconsin leads us to ron johnson. and that is not good for him. can you talk a little bit more
Of the atlantic that the economic relationship and strategic relationship and not really inseparable. so in the previous segment you had with the eu ambassador, she was emphasising all of the important work they are doing in the trade and technology council, which, in some sense, is about security it is about china and about russia. so it is not as if the relationships are that distinct, but i think what you end up having in all cases is you end up having a europe which is becoming, a relationship that is becoming less and less balanced and in which the united states is exercising an ever more dominant role, and that creates a lot of risks, and i think that is the risk from a european perspective there that they are seen quite clearly because of the election here in november. and on that, the eu ambassador said earlier that it did not matter if it was going to be a second term of trump
People. a vice president whose cabinet members are not supporting him. what you need is a strategy to simplify. i think calling donald trump a convicted felon is obviously helpful but it is hard to communicate these sheer. charlie, beyond the sort of elegant theory that could be useful for democrats, there is also the reality that these lies hang on republican elected officials. you wrote a piece in the atlantic talking about the way in which the fake electors lead to ron johnson. can you talk about how you see the dominoes falling? the story you just told, people need to understand what an integral role all of those outlets played in changing the
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