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Biden or Trump: Who will win as per '13 Keys' predictions?

US News: Historian Allan Lichtman, famous for spot-on presidential forecasts since 1984, asserts Joe Biden's re-election hinges on major disruptions, dismissin

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the risk of ignoring president biden's vulnerability? >> oh, no. this will be a close election. there's no denying that. all presidential elections are close. we're focusing on the assets, and, no, they're taking it very seriously. i think the way they take it seriously, they're continuing to put out incredible policies and for example the school nutrition program that will extend into the summer is incredible. we've seen 15 governors including this state turn that down. we've got hungry children. the biden/harris administration is still working the policies. nobody thinks this is going to be easy. nobody thinks this is going to be anything, but close, but we're focusing on november, and it's a big issue here. >> i want to talk about one of the issues looming over the campaign, the issue of migrants. some states are calling to abandon biden over his handling of what we are seeing in the middle east.

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i want to ask you about former u.n. ambassador nikki haley. in our poll she comes in second place, but if you look at the polls overall, she does best against president biden in a general election campaign. former president trump is tied effectively with president biden. if republicans want to win back the white house, is nikki haley your best bet? >> well, i think she is a great candidate. again, i'm not endorsing anyone in the iowa caucuses, but if you look at the issues that are top of mind for iowa republicans, they are the economy. they've suffered under president biden. it is the southern border and the flow of illegal migrants into the united states, but overall, if you look at national security, protecting our borders and pushing back against our adversaries worldwide, nikki haley does have the experience there, and she's really spoke to that, to the iowa voters. so that may be one of the tipping points that resonate with so many different voters. >> let me try to get at the question this way. do you plan to endorse whichever

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there. and you wonder, is that starting to affect this? this is the basic popularity of each candidate. trump very popular, desantis still extremely popular. haley, 48-46, favorable/unfavorable. she's become polarizing. a month ago, her favorable was 60, her unfavorable, 31, soaring up for her. candidates who get associated, we've seen this with christie and we've seen this with pence with anti-trump voters and pro-trump republicans tend to turn on them. is that maybe what we're seeing happen here with haley supporters and how about this for a number two? again, among haley supporters. they don't like trump in general. we ask, who would you vote for, biden or trump in a general election. and thisis nikki haley

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yet no one seemed to know what the heck was going on. this is not a circus, folks, and he is not the director of the small business administration. he is the secretary of defense. when we see attacks against american service members overseas and we see the actions in the red sea, we see the war in israel and in ukraine, we need someone who can be at the helm and be transparent. it also goes to an issue, kristen, of does the secretary of defense actually trust president joe biden that he didn't have the courtesy to call him and let him know what was going on? is joe biden really in control as our commander in chief? this begs that question, and we, as congress demand answers. >> all right. undoubtedly you will be looking to get those answers. president biden saying he still has confidence in secretary austin. senator joni ernst, thank you for joining us. really appreciate it. and joining me now is

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democratic governor from minnesota, tim walz, chair of the governors association and top surrogate for president biden. governor walz, welcome back to "meet the press." >> thanks for having me. >> thanks for being here on this caucus eve and chilly temperatures. >> i've come south to get warm. >> you are used to chilly temperatures. let's talk about some of the challenges that president biden faces. one of them is his age and you've been an outspoken defender and the first lady went so far to say it's an asset and voters aren't buying that and what does the campaign need to do to address this issue? >> first, there is something to be said about age and wisdom, and results matter. i watched infrastructure come and go, and i watched joe biden deliver on a historic infrastructure, building in

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more could be done, but they're doing nothing and the president is asking for more aid for border patrol and not getting it. >> do you think the border is secure? >> i think the border with the folks who do the work down there are doing a great job. could we do better? absolutely. and, again, if the executive branch had their way, it would have wanted on day one and i encourage folks and the senator get something done, send the resources over and we in the executive branch follow the laws written by the congress and there is a broken system. >> i do want to ask you about the middle east because polling is showing that president biden is losing voters due to his support of israel's war against hamas. and, again, muslim leaders in your state are calling for democratic voters to, quote, abandon biden at the white house. we saw protesters gathering outside the white house gates calling for a cease-fire. do you think that president biden needs to change strategies

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minnesota and iowa, and when the choice becomes the binary choice between donald trump and disdain for the rule of law and joe biden competency and getting things done, that overweighs that. >> but i guess the request is is the campaign taking this issue seriously enough do they need to do more? >> i think they are. they've got us out here talking about it and he's great and we're talking and chatting about it and we all get a little older and that's what happens, and you also gain that insight. i think when it comes to these issues working across the aisle to get things done, you see the president doing it with dignity, with class and getting up every day and doing the work. i think he's doing what he does and it's incumbent upon all of us and my mom is 88, still living on the farm and drives herself. folks are able to do this so this ageism that goes to this, if it's not that it would be something else. they attack all of us on something. this is part of it. >> former obama adviser david axelrod is worried democrats aren't taking the warning signs seriously enough. he said dismissing biden's challenges is deeply unhelpful and the concerns are real. do you think the campaign runs

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hampshire at the politics and eggs breakfast. he said he'll make a decision in the next several months and how concerned are democrats about what marc was talking about a third-party candidate. >> this election is about choices and democrats behind president biden and vice president harris and providing billions in infrastructure, clean energy, and those meat and potatoes-issues at the table, that's what people will have to decide, and this is about disarray in the republican party, and the caucus is pushing them. >> do you think the third-party candidate as marc is saying take away from president biden's support? >> it really hasn't been significant and they are laying the blueprint for how things proceed forward and time will tell, but it didn't work for ross perot. it's not going to work this time. >> third-party candidates, garrett, don't historically have any luck in general. >> well, that's true, right? they can help you lose. >> that's right. that's right. >> so let's talk about president biden. i mean, he is facing a real commander-in-chief moment.

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they're ready to move past them. they feel that he's being unfairly persecuted. you go to these campaign events, and i talked to a woman yesterday who described herself as a donald trump groupie. she's been to see him six or seven times and she's going today to see him speak and these are people who believe that, you know, he is the only one who can pick the problems that they see on the ground and nothing in the courtroom is changing for them 37. >> you saw from extraordinary moment unfold in the legal battles and his lawyers respond to the hypothetical question that former president trump's legal team that he could direct the military to kill a political opponent and still be barred as long as he's not convicted in the senate. do you think the democrats will start to use these issues against him because so far president biden has been hands off. >> this is shameful and frightening and we all should be concerned. >> but do you think democrats are going to start talking about this? should they? >> look, this election is about choices, and people are looking at whether we're going to unify behind the accomplishments of president biden and vice president harris. you know, it's just -- this is anti-american. we need to be focused about table issues and protecting medicare and protecting social security, ensuring, securing abortion rights. those table -- meat and potato

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