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say they have been in donald trump's inner circle fro beginning to arraignment but this guy has his name is boris epstein. he worked on trump's presidential campaign in 2016, and then later in the trum white house. he's now a legal adviser t trump and his job is to kind o oversee both the civil and criminal lawyers defending trump in his various investigations epshteyn has said that his closest to trump is a matter o loyalty. but that loyalty is also resulted in epshteyn getting tangled up in his boss's efforts to overturn the result of the 2020 election he was at the ellipse rall when trump urged supporters to march to the capital he stood alongside rud giuliani, sydney powell an others as they made thei outlandish claims abou supposed fraud in the aftermat of the election. and he also became a t cigarette surrogate for trump, telling the american publi that the integrity of th election rested with the executive. watch this >> the president of the united
abortion and be traumatized by it can come into federal court then, i mean, you can just imagine all the other argument for who can bring cases. and it would, i think, jus radically change what federa courts can do. so, i think that's not a lef right issue. i do not see a majority at the supreme court endorsing that standing doctrine. so, i actually am pretty optimistic about the course of this one >> let's hope you are right fo the sake of reproductive right in this country. nancy northup, the president and ceo of the center fo reproductive rights, and tal farhadian weinstein, forme federal and state prosecutor right here in new york thank you very much to the bot of you for being here tonigh on this breaking news. we have much more news to ge to this hour, includin students walking out of school across the state of florid today to protest ron desantis' education policies a florida democratic state lawmaker joins me to react but first -- longtime trump attorney an advisor boris epstein toda reportedly went back for round two of questioning in specia counsel jack smith's investigation. what information he might have for investigators -- that is next there with us what's all this?
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political capacity, who've ended up being in lega jeopardy, do you think somebod like a boris epshteyn could be in legal jeopardy? >> he could be it seems like, from his actions, and from what we are seein that perhaps he is not as much in the crosshairs. folks like giuliani, whose nam keeps popping up - those seem like they are mor in the crosshairs for jeopardy i think even though epshteyn i not a criminal defense lawye himself, i suspect he is savvy enough that he would want to stay out of the testimony, i he was really being told he wa a target or face jeopardy. >> and it seems that epshtey could have said no to talkin to prosecutors why do you think he went in? why do you think he did not tr to fight this, perhaps prolonging his participation as we've seen other trum surrogates do? >> yeah, it's really interesting. a lot of people who are overly confident about themselves
situation it is that they have a lawyer's phone and are questioning him about the very client that he purports to represent. most attorneys in that situation would simply immediately recuse or withdraw from representing the client because they just are in a hopelessly conflicte situation. obviously, it never seems to happen with the trum attorneys. so, they just sort of like there are on this way, doing some combination of blustering that there is attorney-clien privilege, and yet also try to talk their way through things. but having something like phone like that, that's a gold mine for prosecutors in term of knowing where to pursue the questions. >> when you think of the lon list of people who have worked in the trump orbit, both a lawyers or perhaps in th political capacity, who've ended up being in lega jeopardy, do you think somebod like a boris epshteyn could be in legal jeopardy? >> he could be it seems like, from his actions, and from what we are seein
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