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president's state of mind, he wanted those votes to be stolen. what no one has played is the rest of the transcript where the president says to the same secretary of state, i did not -- state, brad, and says it is in an angry voice temperature is clear to me that is evidence of what his state of mind was and his intent. i need you to find me votes of an election i won, i did not lose the state. that is tremendous legal hurdle the da will have. the defense will have a field day with the witnesses they call to prove the point are going to be democratic legislators and the president because it was a democratic-controlled congress and president biden himself, who signed into law amendment to the electoral count act of 1887 on
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law, and the fact the app to follow the law. if that makes people not want to vote for you, so be it. wolf? >> tom, stay with us, don't go too far away, i want to bring back evan perez, john miller, jeanne rossi, and bradley moss. brad, let me share with you. this news about the threat to judge chutkan, how has this changed the threat level around this case? it's chilling to hear what was said on that phone call. >> it's absolutely disturbing, all i can say is, it's gonna get worse. before it ever gets better. part of the problem, everyone is treating donald trump with kid gloves right now. no one wants to be the judge, the prosecutor, anything who tries to silence him, because of the political backlash. you haven't seen the dea, even seen jack smith ask for it yet, it was the judge is contemplating it yet. as this gets worse, as the thats continue to expand, will there be a real action? we've seen donald trump attack witnesses. he went after mike pence twice. he's gone after the judge by name. at what point to someone say, enough is enough. we have to rein him in. before someone gets killed. >> so, so important. jeanne, let's go to the georgia indictment. fani willis, the, judges aiming to get all 19 defendants, all 19 defendants, arraigned over the next three weeks. she wants the trial to start on march 4th. is that timeline realistic? >> unrealistic. i had -- agreed to a case involving 19 defendants. what happened, was it a january 6th case, we divide it up the case into two cases, some played out, and you had two separate trials. there was absolutely no chance that 19 defendants will go to trial in march, too many motions, too many attorneys, too many schedules. >> do you agree, bread? >> yeah, i think it's pretty bold. i don't think jack smith is getting jenner 2024 for his
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meadows. and he is throughout this. you know, there's a separate account at 28, which is the brad raffensperger call, where it is donald trump and mark meadows. but mark meadows has numerous acts in furtherance of that larger rico conspiracy. and she had told us that she was going to be interested in what's happening across the country. and it makes sense. if you are a georgia juror, you're gonna be thinking, why did it just happened here? doesn't make any sense. why would you just do that here? so she wanted to tell the whole story. as she said, she thinks jurors have common sense. they want to hear it. and that's what she did. n se>> and then, the design of e criminal conspiracy, it helps what they are trying to do in georgia, if they can first do it in arizona. if they can do it in other states, and there are several other states mentioned here. i was wondering the same thing, alex, as soon as i thought. it's it's in many different sections of the indictment