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trying to undermine these career public servants, alexander vindman who might come in uniform to testify, we assume will come in uniform to testify, and career public servants, ♪'cause no matter how far away for you roam.♪ys.♪ people who have spent their lives working for george bush, barack obama, and donald trump trying to undermine their ♪when you pine for the sunshine of a friendly gaze.♪ character is a really dangerous thing for republicans, they think, because the public, the persuadable public, they ♪for the holidays you can't beat home sweet home.♪ believe, could see through that. it's a really tough, very tough strategy. republicans tell me they have the united states postal service goes the extra mile basically one place to hide to bring your holidays home. leelee here, one solid argument. how is this a quid pro quo if ukraine got the aid and they didn't issue the statement on the bidens. the more they can say that they believe the safer ground they stand on. this is a very difficult format for the president. as you noted at the top, these are people who spent their lives and my lack of impulse control,, either fighting for the country is about to become your problem. or representing the country abroad, and democrats have ahh no, come on. conducted themselves here. i saw you eating poop earlier. although lindsey graham says it's not like the clinton impeachment or the nixon hey! impeachment, it's close, and
moment and no opportunity to sing the president's praises. >> that's true. so i was just going to ask, i guess, in conclusion, david, you've just -- you've been through a lot and you've advised a lot of presidents, including president nixon. >> we all feel like we've been through a got. >> you've been through more than jim and i, and that's for sure. saying nothing about your age, my friend. but i'm just wondering what you are thinking and looking for as these public impeachment hearings in the house begin tomorrow morning. >> sure. i appreciate that. listen, i think the critical question is how is this going to play out on television to have these dedicated people who are very smart, who have always seen themselves as sort of career public servants, how will they -- will they win over the public or will the people think this is way too complicate and move on? i think this is the moment for the democrats when they really have to begin changing public opinion more dramatically than they have if they wish to break off any republicans in the
namely that there would not be a resumption of military aid unless the ukranians investigated trump's political rivals. and trump ordered him not to cooperate so he is following those orders. but i want to point out that is in such contrast to this parade of patriots. these career public servants who are coming forward putting their careers on the line often at expense to themselves, hiring their own lawyers to come in and to tell the truth out of conviction. i hope that these folks are able to tell their side of the story in a way that the american 'tople find as compelling as i jump in with a lot of antics. but i'm hopeful that they are able to lay out their case. >> all right. congressman, thank you so much for joining me today. certainly going to be a busy day tomorrow. for you at home, be sure to watch the special coverage of the impeachment inquiry hearings that begin right here at 9:00
servants, essentially, career diplomats, career public servants who actually in their experience were trying to fight against the president's instincts. it will be confirmation for the book in the public at the time. >> stephanie grisham says the author is a coward and you shouldn't believe it, but meanwhile there are people coming out and testifying. >> the president has been unhappy with his communications and the fact that he feels the white house isn't doing enough to defend him. stephanie grisham, from what my reporting has indicated, basically takes dictation from trump. these statements are things that he is dictating. >> they sound trumpian. >> very trumpian. he is launching a full scale assault on this book. clearly this is just another front in the multifront war against this white house.
i say this as someone who wants to know the full inner workings of the white house. what we've read does not fill in that picture. >> neera, disadvantageous or advantageous to the author or trouble, next week, the impeachment hearings, there will be people who were in the white house and who will describe things perhaps not in as ujuicya way but which confirms what people like gabe have been reporting on for the last three years. >> absolutely. i do think what is part of this book is that we will -- i'm sure this is inadvertent, but we will see in real time public servants, essentially, career diplomats, career public servants who actually in their
house. what we've read does not fill in that picture. >> neera, disadvantageous or advantageous to the author, this is this sidetrack that will be going on next week, the main track, really. the impeachment hearings, there will be people who were in the white house and who will describe things perhaps not in as juicy a way but which confirms what people like gabe have been reporting on for the last three years. >> absolutely. i do think what is part of this book is that we will -- i'm sure this is inadvertent, but we will see in real time public servants, essentially, career diplomats, career public servants who actually in their experience were trying to fight against the president's instincts. just as anonymous describes.
shadow foreign policy in ukraine to advance the president's political objectives. so she was basically viewed as an obstacle for this pressure campaign to start. when ambassador mckinley later learned about this, he, of course, resigned. especially in light of the fact that in his 37 years of service, he had never seen anything like that. and so i think both of their testimony was very powerful. again, career public servants who are apolitical and came forward and testify at risk of their careers. >> what does it say about rudy giuliani, the president's personal lawyer and his influence on the state department. >> i think both of them basically said that rudy giuliani was essentially running foreign policy in the ukraine along with these others, volker sondland and perry. again to help not the best
many in his orbit disagree. it was the substance of a drug deal in his own white house. when you focus on the substance and follow the facts, you will land scarequarely on rudy giuli. a whole lot of trump's own people thought giuliani was doing something wrong. let there be no mistake what his mission was. he told up right here on this so. >> so did you ask ukraine to look into joe biden? >> of course i did. >> you notice you don't see him much on tv anymore. you can attribute that due to he's under investigation. it's his behavior that has witness after witness, trump's own people, military heros, career public servants and big money political donors of his and former fox newsers calling the former mayor, quote, a hand
many in his orbit disagree. it was the substance of a drug deal in his own white house. when you focus on the substance and follow the facts, you will land squarely on rudy giuliani. a whole lot of trump's own people thought giuliani was doing something wrong. let there be no mistake what his mission was. he told up right here on this so. >> so did you ask ukraine to look into joe biden? >> of course i did. >> you notice you don't see him much on tv anymore. you can attribute that due to he's under investigation. and he's been told he's making things worse for potus. let's be clear. he asked a foreign government to go after a 2020 candidate. it's his behavior that has witness after witness, trump's own people, military heros, career public servants and big money political donors of his and former fox newsers calling
doubling down on the base strategy that had been a hallmark of his entire presidency. those ominous poll numbers for donald trump are also likely due to the steady stream of career public servants, diplomats, and military officials who have appeared as witnesses in the impeachment investigation to provide damning testimony on the events leading up to today's vote. today two big developments we are watching. one taking place in courting when a ruling could determine whether congress will have access to testimony from two figures at the center of the scandal. john bolton and his deputy charles kupperman, an attorney representing both men issued this statement, quote, bolton is not willing to appear voluntarily. i stand ready at all times to accept service of a subpoena on his behalf. bolton and his deputy likely to leave any decision about their testimony up to the courts. but with or without bolton's testimony, a devastating timeline coming into sharp