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doorstep, you answered, what happened. >> hmm. and it was fbi personnel and federal prosecutors. >> exactly right. >> and it's now that they're asking him these questions. wow. >> yep. >> it's amazing. it's very important to keep your old tape. when you play tape of something that happened, hold on to it for longer than your tax records, because you never know when the fbi will finally follow up on the crime that you aired on your tv show. craig, you've really helped us and the whole country follow the nitty-gritty of these stories as they've unfolded, and they seem to be unfolding in more and more important ways. so we're really grateful for you. thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> craig, politics reporter for the detroit news. all right, we'll be right back. stay with us. we'll be right back stay with us me of the day. what people don't know is that not all dirt is the same. you need dirt with the right kind of nutrients. look at this new organic soil from miracle-gro. everybody should have it. it worked great for us. this is as good as gold in any garden.
outstanding subpoenas and search warrants as part of what he described as an ongoing state investigation into the michigan fake electors. he told the court, quote, it's still an open investigation. he also told the court at one point that investigators were treating the michigan state republican party headquarters as a, quote, crime scene. joining us now is craig, politics reporter for the detroit news. thanks for being here. appreciate you joining us. >> thanks so much for having me. >> so this is a sort of sprawling case. there's 16 defendants, and there's been a lot of court proceedings already. not for all of them but for most of them that are essentially designed to decide whether or not these charges are going to go ahead. it's a long process. it's a somewhat complex process given number of defendants. what do you feel like have been
and if it's not their intent to defraud, if it's someone else's, the question eis whose was that and why have they not been charged so far. >> right, and to have the state prosecutors in michigan, the investigators, say we've got these 16 defendants but here's another 11 people who are unindicted co-conspirators, including the former president, including his top lawyer, including, i mean, they are painting a sprawling picture, but the charges haven't necessarily followed all of the allegations. at this point. that's, craig, part of the reason i wanted to talk to you. i was surprised by this revolution that you reported in court on friday that there does appear to be an ongoing federal investigation here. a federal investigation on top of what's going on with the state. do you have any sense from what's been disclosed in court what the contours might be in that federal investigation? >> well, the police captain who revealed this, and never the courtroom was surprised by this,
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