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you got binder, sticky, mayor pete, kamala, and now you have the secretary of the interior deb haaland. she's the one who manages major energy and land decisions. pretty important job. we have a lot of land to manage so what are deb's qualifications? well, she is a native american woman. she was also a baker right out of high school. and then she started a failed salsa company. she studied poetry in college. not geology, poetry. oh, and she used to serve in congress which quite frankly the bread making and salsa making might be more useful. how is deb doing? >> is it your policy that critical miserables should be sourced from countries that are stewards of the environment like the u.s. and our allies or sourced from russia and china that don't share our same values? >> congressman, what i will say is the president is committed to. >> pretty much a yes and no. it's your policy, madam. are you aware that china produces more emissions than any other country on the planet?
productive. conversations create connections and having those connections whether a parent, adult, caregiver in their lives is so important in terms of helping young people to not feel depressed or anxious or consider suicide. >> gillian: i spoke to a couple of teen girls and their mothers about this. deb, principal deputy director of the cdc says when it comes to suicide there are myths that professionals need to dispel. if you have concerns about your teen considering suicide or thinking about self-harm you should ask them. meaning that can be more helpful to them than not wanting to bring up the issue for a whole host of reasons. do you agree with that? is that good guidance? >> absolutely. i think many parents and caregivers are afraid to ask specifically about suicide or whether a young person is engaged in self-injury.
felt so persistently sad they stopped regular activity. >> deb calls the stats a disturbing help and just shows that there is so many going on 17-year-old explains the young girl's battle treatable. >> not treated as legitimate problem until people see the suicide rates and they are like oh, well, we never knew. >> the american academy of pete at tricks is painfully aware of this crisis. >> we don't have the resources to provide all the support that we need to whether that counselor physicians or providers. >> caroline and ingrid are in recovery. teen girls like them continue filling emergency rooms seeking treatment for anxiety, depression, suicide and eating disorders. >> never would have thought, you know, this would happen to her. mental illness does not -- is not biased. >> caroline and ingrid now run a mental health club at their high school. advocate for teens and help others as they battle demons
a virus. virus aand then inserting it ie called humanized mice. >> at that pointmice, well, chia didn't bury the data from that lab because it had nothing to hide. china buried the data because the data implicated china. and , ofe en course, the entire time they had their friends in the media here in the unitedtheb states helped them brand. anyone who questioned the party line as conspiracy theorists on donald trump turning his intelligence community to nowa s investigate a conspiracy theory about covid coming from a labpit in wuhan, fauci rejected the conspiracy. that coronavirus was man made in conspirain a lab a lab in wuhans >> and yet this week, donald trump is still pushing the debunked bunkum. deb and things wenunk.t even deepert a source is now telling fox that jeff zucker, the then not president of cnn, would not a allow his reporterllsbeliev to investigate the lab leak theory because he believed it was just a trump talkingdonald t . >> most everyone agree it is highly unlikely that this
the results were collected in the fall of 2021 giving us one of our first looks at the trends that have affected teens during the covid-19 pandemic. joining me now to discuss all this and the results and the why and how we can help is dr. deb hourly, chief medical officer at the cdc. pleasure to have you on. thank you for coming into the studio. the statistics are heartbreaking and staggering and really concerning. one that stood out to me is that 13% of teenager girls attempted suicide. i'm sorry. 1% is too high. 30% seriously considered suicide. we're talking mostly teenager girls. what is going on? >> it's a call for help. what i think is so important to realize is if somebody attempts suicide and you can intervene, really, really likely they won't go on to die from suicide f. you can intervene or prevent it, huge impact you can have in preventing the loss of a life.
compose a song ♪ >> reporter: it all started with an offer to write a song about anyone for two bucks. it quickly snowballed into mike long's life's work. today mike charges about $300 per song, putting more than 20 hours each into the composition. >> there is something absurd about what i'm doing that just makes me want to keep doing it. ♪♪ ♪ when sid comes sailing in ♪ >> reporter: he's written and composed hundreds of tiny anthems, each created for an audience of one. >> i've never experienced a gift like that before. >> reporter: for deb and sid, tiny anthems has become the soundtrack of their lives. >> there are very few people in this world that have a love song written about them. that is so true. and we have three of them. >> reporter: and mike's creative process can be as unpredictable as his lyrics. his orchestra just about anything that makes a sound. and watching him create music from thin air is simply magical. ♪♪
a few of them, actually! — not sorry, but! laughter all right! but i've sat — i've only ever sat in a studio and known that a podcast was going to be brilliant. i turned to you and ijust — we were four minutes in, i remember looking at the clock, i was like, "we're four minutes in, al. this is going to be amazing." the rest is history. that was it. well, there's only one way that we could really wrap this up, and i'll be honest — she didn't always get the outro right... laughter ..but there were a couple of occasions that she did, so we're gonna give the last word to our deb. thank you guys for listening. remember, you can contact us on all forms of social media . by using the hashtag #youmebigc. - if you could write a review, leave a rating _ and spread the word about this podcast, i we'd really appreciate it. thank you to everybodyj who has done so so far. goodbye! bye! - ijust nailed that! in one! _ sorry, that was really loud. i never do that! ever! _ cheering and applause thanks for downloading the - you, me and the big c podcasts. don't forget to click subscribe or get more great podcasts at bbc.co.uk/podcasts. -
and what deb's engagement was really like. i think to me, she kind - of was just using it as good outpost and engagement - with the community, but i'm not one for very good social media, so you don't really get - the kind of impact that she has when you're just kind - of seeing her on a sunday lunch or what have you. l i it — yeah, i don't kind of feell like there was a point in time. it think itjust kind _ of organically grew over time. why do you think she did — why do you think, you know, a lot of people have cancer, a lot of people use social media. why do you think deb just caught people's imagination and just became such a big story? i think it'sjust her. relentless acceptance of talking about things so frankly. _ i think she just did what she wanted! i didn't really listen to anyone if she got told not to - and kind ofjust went about things - her own way, really. i always kind of — well, we all did — we told her she needed to rest, but i think we kind of understood, and you guys — and i think at the end of her life that became even more apparently clear that
at the funeral. and, subsequently, about two or three days later, we got a guy on — an ambulance driver — who said he was taking someone to hospital subsequently who'd heard me on the radio talk about what to look for and all the symptoms to look out and he'd said, "i'm here because of that." so that, to me, debs kind of, radiating all the good vibes. but i felt — i agonised and felt quite — i'm good on guilt. laughter whoa! and i felt guilty for ages after not going to that funeral. but especially after speaking to vicky today and that ambulance driver, i feel as though that's what debs would've asked for. it sounds trite... no, no — she would've... she would've — i mean, listen. there was enough of us there wailing like banshees on her behalf. it's what she wanted. she wanted tears, didn't she? she got them, yeah. she got them. but i think what you did for our deb was exactly what the whole reason deb did what she did — was to save lives, to make a difference, and the fact that you were able to do that in that show — and that's just one person you know of in that ambulance. yeah, yeah, exactly, and — but that goes back to just the job you've done and we're all here to blow smoke tonight because...
on and we were crying together. so, what it was, i got invited to deb's funeral and ijust thought absolutely long and hard about it because whenever i'd spoken to debs on the radio — and i did the last radio interview with debs, when she was in her garden at home, and i said, "i'm not putting the phone down" because i thought i didn't want to finalise everything, so we hung on — it was like, "you put the phone down." "no, you put it down." anyway, so, i was invited to the funeral and i agonised about it and ijust decided not go because i thought, "debs..." if i could say to debs, "should i be at your funeral "with everybody else, or have i got this platform "on the day of the funeral to be able to say to " reiterate her message? " i think i said on air, you know, "i'm not at the funeral. "i'm here to tell you to check your poo." and vicky told me — and, i mean, you're coming up later, so you could tell this story better than me — but she basically said she was leaving the funeral, heard me on the radio and it was very emotional for people who were