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a student who is trying to explain who they are? i think the supreme court, you can try to read the courts decision more narrowly to say they just don't want admission officer to consider somebody's race as race itself, but, to the extent that you can tell a whole contextual story about the role of what recent someone's life and the way that the individual that they are because of race and their experience of it that is okay. and so if you focus on that, which i think that many admissions officers in university officials will do, just a subtle meyer certainly called it putting lipstick on a pig, but there is a version of this that actually is what schools were doing all along, taking the context into account rather than thinking of race as a check box. >> debra, i want to go back to
a factor, get test free and eliminated the barrier that standardized testing creates for under representative students and implement a really holistic application process. one that evaluates academic achievement and context, maybe gives credit for underserved and underrepresented to schools, consider school demographics, lots of ways that we can now try to maintain diversity in college campuses. and make admission process more equitable. >> debra, money grab a hustle of s. a. t. prep, we can do an entire show on that for another night. >> absolutely. >> it's unfair to another level. peter let's talk about what michael talked about a moment ago, this court overturned roe almost exactly a year ago, affirmative action was clearly high up on the rights agenda, what does that say for the right that they won these two massive decisions, decisions on things that all of us here had probably never thought would be in question in our lifetimes. >> these are two huge goals that the legal right has had for many years of course and many people thought they would
universities have to improve our systems, some of that is about considering diversity factors such as socioeconomic status, or english language learners status, first generation college students, they need to do things like do away with legacy admissions as a factor, get test free and eliminated the barrier that standardized testing creates for under representative students and implement a really holistic application process. one that evaluates academic achievement and context, maybe gives credit for underserved and underrepresented to schools, consider school demographics, lots of ways that we can now try to maintain diversity in college campuses. and make admission process more equitable. >> debra, money grab a hustle of s.a.t. prep, we can do an entire show on that for another night. >> absolutely. >> it's unfair to another level.
white applicants, legacy students who are racial minorities might be doing better in the pool in competing against white applicants who are also legacies, if you can imagine that. so it is not as simple as getting rid of legacy admissions and that will overall help racial minorities i think it is a little bit more complicated, but i do think that in terms of the socioeconomic diversity that schools can pursue, looking really hard at legacy admissions and what it is doing for schools might be really on the table right now. >> debra, you want to respond to that, can you be pro pushing more, better creative diversity initiatives but anti affirmative action? >> you certainly can but i think some of that stems from a misunderstanding of what affirmative action is many people who view themselves as
have -- will say is that it is now happening that legacy admissions, like the racial minorities are doing quite well if they are legacies and applying. so even the overall it favors white applicants, legacy students who are racial minorities might be doing better in the pool in competing against white applicants who are also legacies, if you can imagine that. so it is not as simple as getting rid of legacy admissions and that will overall help racial minorities i think it is a little bit more complicated, but i do think that in terms of the socioeconomic diversity that schools can pursue, looking really hard at legacy admissions and what it is doing for schools might be really on the table right now. >> debra, you want to respond to that, can you be pro pushing more, better creative diversity initiatives but anti affirmative action? >> you certainly can but i
and people like isla who have permanent pain, to give mps an insight into their lives. i wanted to come along to give my support. i think, actually, what is a cross—party issue of wanting to make sure that families who are affected by rare diseases like eb get the support they need, but, also, that those conditions are getting a fair share of the budget, too. with high—profile events such as the swim, the money raised will change and, one day, hopefully, save lives. but for charities such as debra and cure eb, that increased awareness is vital because it lets them know that they're not fighting this horrific disease alone. john maguire, bbc news, westminster. incredible work by graeme souness and all the team. i have been sneezing a lot.
what is a cross—party issue of wanting to make sure that families who are affected by rare diseases like eb get the support they need, but, also, that those conditions are getting a fair share of the budget, too. with high—profile events such as the swim, the money raised will change and, one day, hopefully, save lives. but for charities such as debra and cure eb, that increased awareness is vital because it lets them know that they're not fighting this horrific disease alone. john maguire, bbc news, westminster. an incredible achievement. still going in a different way. i said he could have done with this leap. here's some good news for those of us who like to take a0 winks. i love a nap. do you? i love a nap. regular napping during the day
quarter of their age. >> it often opens up a lot of community. i have more friends than i can count, more friends that are 25-30 than 75-80-year-olds. >> reporter: at 78, debra has found a new audience for hir sustainable wearable art on instagram. she's able to promote upcoming shows, workshops and sell what she's made. >> i've modeled this naked. >> reporter: to her nearly 60,000 instagram followers. >> why do you think they're attracted to you? >> i think young people are craving authenticity. that's what i try to encourage. >> reporter: is being older an asset on social media? >> totally, totally. not only on social media, but life itself. i'm not afraid at 78 to put myself out there and say this is what i am, i've been doing it a long time. >> reporter: for many grand
a donald trump got a nomination. i was there the day that he was inaugurated president by washington d.c.. this is the donald trump i have never seen before. this is a man that takes up a lot of, room he commands an audience, his voice is heard. and in this, case we had totally different facial expressions for donald trump, he was not heard once in the courtroom. and it was just a moment in history that i will never forget. >> thank you for sharing all of that with us. debra, paul, thank you both. my next guest, school congresswoman lauren boebert, during a capitol hill hearing, we'll show you that moment coming up. we'll show you that moment coming up. type 2 diabetes? discover the power of 3 in the ozempic® tri-zone. ♪ (oh, oh, oh, ozempic®!) ♪ in my ozempic® tri-zone, i lowered my a1c, cv risk,
this is a young girl who's had 65 operations at 1a years old. what sort of life is that? i get fed up apologising for speaking about her, for being like this, but i'm not apologising this time. she's a unique person. and so they'll swim the channel, a crossing expected to take between 12 and 18 hours. a day that graeme, andy and the rest of the team hope will change or even save lives for years to come. john maguire, bbc news, dorset. if you'd like to support graeme and people, like isla, living with epidermolysis bullosa you can donate via the debra website which is on—screen now.