Here to de oliveira and walt nauta in your eyes. do you think prosecutors could still get them? i think they can. they both face conspiracy to obstruct justice which is a very serious crime. as well as each making false statements. so if convicted of these charges on the evidence is very strong here, they could face serious prison time, their best option is likely to cooperate. my guess is the reason we had the delay in the addition of carlos de oliveira in this case is that prosecutors were probably working with him to get him to cooperate and flip, it seems like he is somebody who could put himself there as a witness on the scene and talk about what walt nauta and what donald trump said, hear the boss, and put together, providing narrative for why they were obstructing justice and how this all went down.
Insight into donald trump s support limits and how he ropes them into his alleged criminal schemes. first there was world nauta, the former white house fellow who became trump s personal aide or body man after he left office, it s not always indicted in june as his coconspirator accused of packing up classified documents and hiding them from the federal government. now we know that nauta wasn t alone in his scheme. as a superseding indictment lays new obstruction counts alleging trump and his aides attempted to delete mar-a-lago surveillance video last summer that showed his mishandling of documents. the indictment charges a third person with federal felonies. carlos de oliveira who is identified as the property manager at mar-a-lago and a former belly as well. de oliveira has been charged with conspiracies to obstruct justice, altering and destroying, mutilating, or concealing an object and making false statements. according to the washington
This is not like, i guess people think this is reporting, like watching a report, it says sources say this, this was evidence given to a grand jury. they heard from somebody, that grand jury indicted is not based on reporting or unknown sources. people came forward and testified that and we can expect they will testify at trial, consistent with what. so there is a lot of evidence. this is like obstruction 101. you get a subpoena for films and then you try to get rid of it. even though you have a lawyer. you could get a conviction with this case. you really could. i think there s too much credit to that. i am not one justice operating, and we definitely want the justice system in this country to operate on something more substantial. please stick around, barbara mcquade, thank you as always, thank you for your insights. kevin mccarthy s pathetic plan to distract from donald trump s
Very stories about jack smith and what a january 6th indictment might be, there are multiple strands and that he s investigating. whether it s what happened in georgia, whether it s donald trump trying to corrupt the justice department into falsely stating the election was rigged or was fraudulent, what happened with the january 6th rally, whether he tried to incite, there s just so much there. an indictment probably won t cover it all when it comes, but i mean, barbara can probably speak to this better than i can. but from the lawyer side, they must feel like they re staring down a fire hose. a state representative malcolm kenyatta, as i wear cv documents from bernard kerik. an interesting character, they giuliani associate, and it had to deal with their attempts to find voter fraud. your state, i m sure you re very familiar with it, one of those targeted by trump and his allies after the election for allegations of voter fraud. we all know, and you re
What a january 6th indictment might be, there are multiple strands and that he s investigating. whether it s what happened in georgia, whether it s donald trump trying to corrupt the justice department into falsely stating the election was rigged or was fraudulent, what happened with the january 6th rally, whether he tried to incite, there s just so much there. an indictment probably won t cover it all when it comes, but i mean, barbara can probably speak to this better than i can. from the lawyer side, they must feel like they re staring down a firearm. as state representative, kenya, as i mentioned, smith that his team received a batch of documents from bernard. an interesting character, giuliani associate, and it had to deal with their attempts to find voter fraud. your state, i m sure you re very familiar with it, one of those targeted by trump and his allies after the election for allegations of voter fraud. we all know, and you re certainly well aware, they did
Investigating the january 6th is extending its timetable for public hearings into july, due to an influx of new evidence. can the chairman bennie thompson says the new evidence includes hours of video footage handed over by a british documentarian, who followed and interviewed twice impeached donald trump, his family and aides for weeks before and after the 2020 election. the hearings are set to pick up the week of july 11th. the last, hearing pullback the current curtain on how donald trump attempted to strong-arm the justice department into spreading his big lie about the 2020 election, so he could overturn the results. the committee had originally had more than two hearings on the docket, but given the new discoveries, there could be even more added to the schedule. now joining me is jackie ali, a congressional investigative reporter for the washington post. also, she s an msnbc contributor. so jacqui, thank you for
Politicians to form the will to actually get something done. they deserve the credit for what happened yesterday. it is not enough. but it is a step in the right direction. now let s take the next one. former congressman beto o rourke, now candidate for the state of texas. thank you for being here this morning. thank you. it is now the top of the hour. the fifth public hearing by the house committee investigating the january 6 attack on the capitol focused on how former president trump tried to strong arm the justice department into over turning the results of 2020 election. those efforts include a pursuit of the attorney general who would go along with trump s conspiracy theories in his attempt to hold on to power. also ahead this hour, evidence that at least six republican members of the house who assisted trump sought pardons. plus the latest on gun safety that we just mentioned overnight with the senate passing a bipartisan bill. hours after the supreme court issued its most significant ruling on guns in years, mika.
What involvement did trump and others have? the question is did they try to impede january 6th? they did. and the question becomes, sphaufpl, did they do so corruptly? well, lying is corrupt. submitting false certificates is corrupt. encouraging somebody like the vice president and trying on bludgeon them into failing to conduct their legal duties properly seems corrupt to me. trying to coerce the justice department into announcing, you know, a fake investigation and drawing fake conclusions about the pro bright of the elections. just say this, just go out and say this. you don t have to go and bring a lawsuit or do anything. trump basically said leave it to us. a purely political and fraudulent act because there
But not any situation about specific charges or cases, but we re thoold he will talk about violence being justified and i expect him and that is clearly not something that the justice department can tolerate, and repeat a commitment to the adherence to the constitution. peter baker, there has been some progress by the committee, they say they interviewed more than 300 people and there has been some charges by the justice department into what happened, but but by key witnesses, members of congress, and former member of congress mark meadows, so what is the chances, you think, that this can get done an a report be written and get done in time. how could they possibly lose
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