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>> so they had stolen her money and her drugs? >> yes. >> why kill her? why not just steal it and leave her there? >> the intention was to rob her. it didn't go as planned. obviously. and when it happened the way it did, he claims that it was just as big of a shock to him. >> i didn't know that was going to happen, it shouldn't have happened. >> lissa called me. that's when she told me, you know, they know where she's at and i just said, you know, is she alive? she was like, no. >> so, you still had that little, tiny glimmer of hope? >> even though i knew, but still, when she told me no i was like, i started really crying. i mean, it's just something you don't ever want to hear in your life. >> this was your first born. >> yes. so, i didn't think, i mean, i didn't want it ever be true,. >> in mandan, detective bowman
>> mandan police were still running a parallel investigation but detective bowman said she wasn't hearing back from the bureau of indian affairs. >> you've reached out, you're not getting calls back? >> yeah, i'm not getting the information i need back. >> how frustrating is that? >> it's really frustrating. >> bowman documented her calls to the spirit lake bya office and her investigative report. however, when we contacted ebi a, we were told that the agent assigned to the case had no knowledge of detective moments attempts to reach its offices. lissa says, she also called the bia and left messages. >> why are you not searching for her, you know? and what are you guys doing? who's doing what? >> you didn't feel like they were doing enough. >> they weren't doing anything, to begin with, yeah. that's just kind of how they operate. >> the bia told us that in carla's case, bia agents assisted the fbi with search efforts on foot and with
had also spoken on the phone with suna that day. he told her he feared the man involved in carla's murder or now after him. >> he's absolutely convinced that he is being monitored. he's just very paranoid at this point. >> bowman thought suna could well be in danger. >> this is a monumental moment in this case and you need help. >> i know that the fbi can cover everything. they can go anywhere and so, i need the fbi. >> the fbi is responsible for investigating major crimes on reservations. special agent virtually had been in contact with detective bowman about carla's disappearance. on the day bowman found out that suna had turned, virtually as he was out on the reservation with ebi and a helicopter looking for carla. burchler thought they needed to bring suna in that night, but it turned out, that would not be so easy. >> suna was hiding and he even shut off his phone. his phone could not be located.
case. >> there was a report that she had been in, like, a silver car and she had been hanging out with -- >> soon a guy, dakota charben of, and dalen st-pierre. all three had lengthy criminal records. all three resided on the spirit lake reservation. bowman contacted tribal police. she says, they never put her through to the investigator on the case. just told her they had spoken to -- and he said he had not seen carla. if bowman wanted to interview sooner herself, she couldn't, because she had no jurisdiction to -- on the track travel police or fbi approval, which she had not received. for carlos and, lissa, it was time to step in. >> it wasn't even a question of if i was going to find her, it was just i was going to find her. >> as the search for karla continues, an unexpected phone call gives odd lissa her first big break. coming up, --
reservation and took her boat out with volunteers and sonar gear. >> and we want across the bay and this little girl says, do you think this is the truck? and i looked at it and i was like, oh my god. >> submerge in 21 feet of water, olivia's body strapped in the passengers seat. tough first is olivia sanco. >> lissa brought so much closure. i'm still so indebted to her, still grateful for what she does, you know? >> lissa says, every recovery, every search has taken a toll. >> there are times that i will never get back, you know? with my family. my kids are all grown now. >> all those sacrifices would steal her for the hardest fight of her life, the search for her own niece, carla. mid september, 2016, detective bowman was tracking down tips she received about carla's
this case gets resolved. >> the case, the detective explained, had become daunting in size and scope. >> she also told me that this basic search area was spanning five states and three reservations. >> detective bowman had worked most of her leads. the only ones remaining where those three men. >> her hands were tied because she was stuck in -- >> this was no surprise to you? >> jurisdiction. >> but lissa is not a cop, not constrained by jurisdictions, or what she's allowed to say or do. >> my hands are not tied. i will go find her. >> she use facebook to blast out what she knew. >> once i got information and i had some names, i put that out there. >> now our followers knew the names of the man she thought were somehow involved in carla's disappearance. she waited for a response. then her phone rang. >> why is my name being put in
he went completely off the grid. >> where you starting to get worried as he's not responding now? he stopped communicating? >> absolutely starting to get worried that he's going to get a lead -- wild goose chase. >> nevertheless, the next day, lissa and detective bowman ended up in spirit lake to connect with burchler's team. all of them counting on suna's promised to take them to carla's body. >> as you are pulling up to spirit lake, how are you feeling? >> i was just feeling like i was in full anticipation. i just wanted to hurry up and get this over with, and make sure it was her. >> but suna was not there. fbi agents eventually found him at a relative's house. suna got into an fbi vehicle and they drove a few miles down the road. >> this is where suna led you to. >> this is the spot, yeah. >> an isolated field on the
of followers she could tap into. >> what's the first thing you do? >> i went to social media, really. i put a call out saying that karla is missing. >> lissa new from previous cases people who might be reluctant to talk to police were often willing to talk to her. >> talking to you, for some people, i would assume, is so much easier than talking to a detective or a federal agent. >> yeah, yeah, i believe that. >> lissa contacted everyone she code on the reservation and was able to pinpoint the owner of that car carla was seen in. it was the father of suna guy, one of the three men detective bowman couldn't interview because they lived on the reservation. lissa reached out to the detective, to compare notes. >> i did spend some time letting her know that it was a relative and they kind of work on this arena anyway. can you share as much information with me as you can? >> for detective bowman, lissa was a welcome hand. >> all help is good help. more people looking, the easier
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