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the whole system. >> the cops were sure janos killed archie. gary was doubly sure. but yet -- >> he still huffing around. you know? breathing air and has all the freedoms that you and i have. it just didn't seem right. >> perhaps not. but the cops were simply stuck. >> the murder weapon, the confession, and eyewitness, we didn't have any of that. >> so the case went cold. not much more detective kroenke could do. >> you put it away and then let some fresh eyes look at it later on down the line, and see if there's something you missed. >> and then, a very strange development.

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apartment. >> and what did janos claim he forgot? the laundry. even the cops had spotted a basket of clothes inside his car before he came out of the apartment. so they searched the car and found nothing. nothing suspicious, anyway. no blood are ever there evidence related to archie mcfarland's murder. same inside the apartment. except, there was this one weird thing hanging over the bathtub were -- >> some clothes that were wet. a shirt and pants. if he is going to do laundry, why would you spot wash something and leave it hanging in your bathroom to dry? if you're going to do laundry, do laundry. >> janos was arrested and taken back to the torrance were detective kroenke had 72 hours to convince city da to file charges.

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>> but janos's guilt seem clear enough. so kroenke took his case to the da. and not a bit surprise, without a confession, a witness, or murder weapon, the da's office refused to gamble on such a circumstantial case. so no charges were filed against janos kulcsar. what was it like watching him walk out of jail? >> oh, it hurts. because you know he's the guy that did it. and he beat the system. >> i was dumbfounded. to me there was so much evidence, it just didn't make sense to me. >> then mary ann approached the cops with a second proposal to trap her ex lover into deep confession. and a month after the murder, the two of them met at a local restaurant. >> well, you tell me then. you tell me what happened. >> nothing happened. and why do you think i would do such a -- such a thing like this. >> you're not being honest with me. what do you want to hear >> do you want me to lie to you?

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otherwise janos would be released. kroenke was confident though he could wrap this up quickly. >> we had the wet clothes. he was changing his statements all the time. his girlfriend, our victims wife, was very positive he was the one responsible for this. >> kroenke grilled him for hours, but janos was insistence he had nothing to do with archie mcfarland's murder. and crime lab tests didn't find a speck of blood on his clothes. nor was there a trace on him. or scratches either. and though and no history of committing any kind of crime. was it possible janos was in the color? detective kroenke had an idea. mary ann wanted to see her former lover in jail. he taped the conversation. so the two men for the first time, since archie's murder, had as the tape rolled. >> how could you do such a horrible thing and think you're

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to make that kind of injury? it would put you on your knees in order to do it. when you look at that and you spot cleaning on the pants i think have a pretty good description of how he got blood on his pants and what he had to do to get it off. >> finally some physical evidence, but was it enough? he didn't think so, he needed more evidence to file murder charges. >> i wanted to get janos on tape, so the detectives went out and contacted's janos kulcsar. >> janos work at a shop repairing electronics, the detective showed up with a tape recorder to ask him about the

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>> didn't make sense because no matter how thoroughly gary wished otherwise, janos kulcsar was as free as a bird. >> it kind of made me question the whole system. >> the cops were sure janos killed archie. gary was doubly sure. but yet -- >> he still huffing around. you know? breathing air and has all the freedoms that you and i have. it just didn't seem right. >> perhaps not. but the cops were simply stuck. >> the murder weapon, the confession, and eyewitness, we didn't have any of that. >> so the case went cold. not much more detective kroenke could do. >> you put it away and then let some fresh eyes look at it later on down the line, and see if there's something you missed. >> and then, a very strange development.

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do to get it off. >> finally some physical evidence, but was it enough? he didn't think so, he needed more evidence to file murder charges. >> i wanted to get janos on tape, so the detectives went out and contacted's janos kulcsar. >> janos work at a shop repairing electronics, the detective showed up with a tape recorder to ask him about the murder, about that day. he remembered every single detail, he said, vividly. >> so what were you going out for your car for? >> i was going to go to my brother. i remember it's very good. because the kids got ready to go to school. because my brother was working nighttime. >> this is something that you arranged with your brother? >> well, yeah. >> wait a minute, didn't he say back then that he was going to do laundry? >> his version now was that his brother called him because a babysitter had to go to school

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>> janos was arrested and taken back to the torrance were detective kroenke had 72 hours to convince city da to file charges. otherwise janos would be released. kroenke was confident though he could wrap this up quickly. >> we had the wet clothes. he was changing his statements all the time. his girlfriend, our victims wife, was very positive he was the one responsible for this. >> kroenke grilled him for hours, but janos was insistence he had nothing to do with archie mcfarland's murder. and crime lab tests didn't find a speck of blood on his clothes. nor was there a trace on him. or scratches either. and though and no history of committing any kind of crime. was it possible janos was in the color? detective kroenke had an idea. mary ann wanted to see her former lover in jail. he taped the conversation. so the two men for the first time, since archie's murder, had as the tape rolled. >> how could you do such a

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>> i don't think she could have been directly involved but she could have thrown out some ideas to him. and he might have taken it upon his own. >> but janos's guilt seem clear enough. so kroenke took his case to the da. and not a bit surprise, without a confession, a witness, or murder weapon, the da's office refused to gamble on such a circumstantial case. so no charges were filed against janos kulcsar. what was it like watching him walk out of jail? >> oh, it hurts. because you know he's the guy that did it. and he beat the system. >> i was dumbfounded. to me there was so much evidence, it just didn't make sense to me. >> then mary ann approached the cops with a second proposal to trap her ex lover into deep confession. and a month after the murder, the two of them met at a local restaurant. >> well, you tell me then. you tell me what happened. >> nothing happened.

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to archie mcfarland's murder. same inside the apartment, except there was this one weird thing, hanging over the bathtub were -- >> some clothes that were wet, a shirt and pants. if he's going to do laundry, why would you spot wash something and leave it to hang in your bathroom to dry if you're going to do laundry, go do laundry. >> janos was arrested and taken back to the torrance pd whether detective kroenke now had 72 hours to compile a case to convince the da to file murder charges, otherwise janos would be released. kroenke was confident he could wrap it up quickly. >> they had the wet clothes. he was changing his statements all the time. his girlfriend, the victim's wife, was pretty positive he was responsible for it this. >> he kept insisting he had nothing to do with archie mcfarland's murder and crime lab tests didn't find a speck of

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