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being an exception, an exception to the rule. in that the rule of the suprem court is too entrenched th influence of already powerfu minorities, whether they'r economic minorities, whether they are political minoritie who have habited radial of power, but that is what a cour has done traditionally >> it's such a enlightening wa to look at it because fo example we all know that the franklin roosevelt presidenc was an exceptional presidenc in what it was able to achieve creating social security minimum wage, 40 hour work week, any child live labor transformational in terms of the governments relation t workers and to its people. and we know that the president sees the follow that didn' achieve anything like that but we were always taught th supreme court is different, th supreme court isn't abou phases, except at ancien history, where they had some bad surgeons there is also a line in here
been very, the corporate interests have been very friendly to moneyed interests, very much willing to defer t those who already have power and already have influence and already have wealth. so i think it's important when we are thinking of the supreme court, to as much as possibl think of those years, the 50 and 60s, in particular, as being an exception, an exception to the rule. in that the rule of the suprem court is too entrenched th influence of already powerfu minorities, whether they'r economic minorities, whether they are political minoritie who have habited radial of power, but that is what a cour has done traditionally >> it's such a enlightening wa to look at it because fo example we all know that the franklin roosevelt presidenc was an exceptional presidenc in what it was able to achieve creating social security minimum wage, 40 hour work week, any child live labor transformational in terms of the governments relation t workers and to its people. and we know that the president sees the follow that didn' achieve anything like that but we were always taught th supreme court is different, th supreme court isn't abou phases, except at ancien history, where they had some bad surgeons there is also a line in here what you were just getting to, in effect, in your piece i wanted to read for the audience with his close ties to a powerful property owning billionaire, clarence thomas
that >> no. yes, he can make a motio saying that, questioning how the judge was selected, like how was it that this ended u before this judge? that's probably a loser becaus this judge had the trump organization case and the -- silver case, so it is relate to matters this is obviously a very goo judge, there is not going to b anything about something tha he did that improper you can make the motion, i will be denied i was going to say about the money part, one of the thing that is very interesting i they use his cheapness against him in this indictment, becaus he wants to claim the malone defense, that i didn't do this because of the 2016 election, was paying all this money and was doing this because didn' want melania to know that i ha been a scoundrel that does the defense, it's no about the campaign, it's about
him in this indictment, becaus he wants to claim the malone defense, that i didn't do this because of the 2016 election, was paying all this money and was doing this because didn' want melania to know that i ha been a scoundrel that does the defense, it's no about the campaign, it's about her. the problem is, into parts o the indictment, you have the claim that, let's see if we ca put this off until after the election because then, if lose, which i think i'm goin to lose, i don't have to pay so guess, what melania is goin to be there after the election >> using his cheapness against
take this may be. it may be that the firm didn't want the representation and maybe that the firm had conflicts of interest, and he couldn't have taken representation at the firm. it maybe. candidly donald trump is not popular here in manhattan. you'll be shocked to know i think i think the vote count in 2020 was 85% for joe biden here in manhattan. and so there may have been some reluctance to take on the representation. john explain the tangled web that we're talking about about how many of donald trump's lawyers know each other have represented each other have fired each other. have suit like i think we have a graphic let me pull this up for everybody. of the flow. okay, basically what we needed. we don't have it at the moment. but we will we needed a flow chart of how they all know each other. so there's a lot of crossover and you know, it starts with joe tacopina, who is donald trump's lead counsel right now, although that's now in debate since todd lance just said he's coming on as lead counsel, so there's two lead counsels, which in a discussion about tensions between lawyers, is demonstrative in and of
wickersham and taft. you know, a white shoe law firm. active job . i'm curious why he had to leave the firm to take this case. maybe it may be that the firm didn't want the representation may be that the firm had conflicts of interest, and he couldn't have taken representation at the firm. it maybe. candidly donald trump is not popular here in manhattan. you'll be shocked to know i think i think the vote count in 2020 was 85% for joe biden here in manhattan. and so there may have been some reluctance to take on the representation. john explain the tangled web that we're talking about about how many of donald trump's lawyers know each other have represented each other have fired each other. have suit like i think we have a graphic let me pull this up for everybody. of the flow. okay, basically what we needed. we don't have it at the moment. but we will we needed a flow chart of how they all know each other. so there's a lot of crossover and you know, it starts with joe tacopina, who is donald trump's lead counsel right now, although that's now in debate since todd lance just said he's coming on as lead counsel, so there's two lead
>> when i called to file a missing persons report the said that she is an adult an there is nothing we can do for you. >> but you knew that there was a? problem >> yeah. >> so cathy started doing he own digging, checked her daughter down to a motel i orange county where the trai ended. her clothes where there, but she wasn't again, she called the police >> and they said, oh tha happens, sometimes prostitutes just work circuits - >> prostitute? >> and i said, no. that can't be. >> but then the truth came crashing down. undeniable kianna had missed a schedule court date in santa ana for prostitution charge. >> but wait a minute, you talk to her every day >> this -- is exactly >> and you knew you nothing of the secret >> nothing >> what does it feel like as a mom to hear that that that was going on all that time and you do know? it >> heartbreaking. >> when she heard kathy story, detective trapp began thinking
they're gonna run. >> time to move, fast. they caught up to cano as he was boarding a bus and stephen gordon they found him where he worked at an auto body shop next door to hearty windows. but -- >> he made a run for it >> ran out the door >> on the bicycle. yes. he had a little collision with one of our surveillance unit and a little flying over the handlebars and he was take into custody >> both men were charged wit four counts each of first agre murder, forceable rape >> hi steven >> hi. >> and detective trapp prepare to confront a suspected serial killer >> coming up - >> i knew this was going to be a lot different in any other interview i hadn't >> take out with the killer. >> it is spicy >> i told you. i told you to be careful >> when dateline continues onna fly. kyle? and while romeo over here is trying to look cool, things are about to heat up.
and priscilla went up and down the boulevard together >> we made thousands of fliers she and i were on a mission to find our daughters >> but no sign of thei daughters anywhere the detective trapp collecte their portraits, hung them o her off his wall and she stayed awake and praye in her catholic way. >> do you ever wonder why go would allow this to happen >> i do. there have been plenty of time that i've been angry with ou maker because you have t wonder why does this happen? i wish you would talk to me an that would be very helpful but i had to figure out what happened just read the clues, collect the puzzle pieces, and the mor you can keep a neutral mind, these are the puzzle pieces fi together >> now getting around it, th pieces pointed to a chilling conclusion those three missing woman, jus like jarrae may have bee murdered
asleep and hang out at the sam spot and they did beside what anybody said - >> you are going to parse that argument >> so the day i die, because i know for the fact that it is true >> what i want to know it is because that is on you what -- was going on in your head to make you want to do it to participate in whatever you participated in, to ge whatever thrill you wanted what was the thrill? but was? it >> i don't think there was thrill >> there's no thrill, why di you do it >> there is no thrill i watching women die like that but i will go back to it again and again, it was my anger issues that i have fro everything that happened while we were all pearl an probation. >> we may never know exactly why but jarrae was killed or martha, josephine, or kianna but there is one more myster