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doesn't have the chops to be up there. but he told me tonight that is not how he feels about john kasich and that he actually likes him. >> but he didn't say that on the stage. he said, you don't have the economic background and the success story that i have. it i am rich, you are not, shut up. he really did say that tonight. that was schoolyard behavior. he told the woman to be quiet because he just felt like it. that did seem like to rats are there was no reason for him to jump out like that. he wasn't being interrupted. why would he care about somebody else being interrupted? it and instinct. >> he doesn't like women. >> it's one interpretation. >> yeah, whatever. >> donald trump has a certain amount of aggression that he needs to get out at any one point. he didn't really want to take it out on ben carson. >> that would be dumb. >> he criticized carson from long distance over the weekend, but standing next to him he was
last week. we should start discounting pulling into old-fashioned reporting. it i was in minnesota yesterday with 700 hits at the university of minnesota. that is a rising strong campaign. that is not a weak campaign. we need to get over all the emphasis on polls and go out and do real reporting, follow the candidates. thanks. >> thanks. >> thank you very much, senator. back to you, chris. >> spoke to mark halperin. give us your take. two issues with a real disagreement. one was war policy and how aggressive we should have with rand paul in donald trump being the more isolationist, to use that word. on the issue of immigration, clearly it was trump versus bush. saying we shouldn't let them become citizens at some point. trumpet basically saying, shove them back across the border. pretty rough talk. >> kasich was in that debate as
tonight, but rand paul did have a good moment when he hit marco rubio with the charge that he is not necessarily conservative. because if he were, he wouldn't want to spend money on wars around the world, as you just noted. jeb bush also had a good night. carly fiorina came back. last debate, she kind of faded into the background. it she came out strong on the economy this time. >> she may benefit from the same sort of nasty approach by trump. last time trump made fun of her appearance. this time he told her to shut up. i think sometimes that helps the opponent him especially when there is a gender difference. your thoughts. >> when he was talking to reporters, chris, he noted that he was hitting her because she was interrupting other people. i was on the rope line with mr. trump and asked if he thought that john kasich should be on stage when they were having their back and forth. he suggested he didn't have to listen to him or take it from him and noted that he has a successful business and suggested that john kasich
that's interesting. they are laying down some markers here, the republicans. we are not going to mess around on a minimum-wage. they were utterly and totally against it all the way along except again for kasich, who just prove the exception to the rule time and again. i agree with mark helprin. rubio showed that in terms of skill of this kind of free-for-all televised debate, they both bring particular skills. rubio's skill is to flash that smile, which is halfway between a barracuda and a choir boy. >> yeah. >> and repeat his mantra over and over again, his neocon -- >> are you thinking of brown freed? >> cruz is a shrewd debater. >> did you sense those fellas came in with prefab speech parts and jabbed them in? >> yes pierre cruz is very quick. he is extemporaneous.
questions about his biography. the rest of his performance was smoking. he shrugged off that question after a long week of scrutiny. that was important for his candidacy. >> moving forward, this campaign now is reaching a point of almost stasis. and even battle between carson and trumpet. a secondary battle between cruz and rubio down below. several points back. with bush and kasich and the rest desperately trying to get into the second tier. >> i think the biggest battle i am paying attention to is rubio versus cruz. we know about the outsiders, trump and carson, but which one of these senators, who's going to emerge as the champion of their wing? i think cruz was coming up on that trump message. he is ready in case one of the outsiders fade to catapult ahead. >> hold on there. thank you for tonight. get to bed. robert costa. don kasich took part in the debate. he joins us now.
bush out of the way saying, it's my turn. that may be too aggressive for some voters. some voters may not agree with him on immigration. they may not agree with john kasich and may think he was in the wrong party's debate toni t tonight. >> this 11 million deportation is a marker he is laying down. it's not that he will do it. he is saying he will do something to stop illegal immigration and deal with it. everybody just talks. i'm going to do something. they can imagine the wall. but nobody really thinks he's going to uproot people that go around door to door looking for mexican-americans and sending them home? you think he would? is? >> i didn't say a word. i just looked at you. >> no one is getting to the right of him. >> with his immigration, he mentioned -- he referenced the
there. i thought it was fascinating. lots of drama on immigration and thing got on war policy there are some voices there tonight. >> yeah, it was interesting. generally this field, i feel, makes -- i felt makes ronald reagan look like abbey hoffman and herman came look like winston churchill, but there were some competing voices from rand paul and kasich was certainly agitated and seemed to try and, you know, bring the card under control. >> what did you make of trump tonight? tonight. >> i was watching it. i never understood why trump's candidacy has been taken seriously. i think the hateful things, the zito phobic statements he has made are unforgivable. it's a mystery to me that he has done as well as he has. i felt like he looked a little
smart enough tactically not to do any such thing because it would have backfired immediately on him. >> you could tell that donald trump realized when he let that slip he made a mistake. not only that, but you could see donald trump was prepared. he has been tested. he is going through the policy wonks, the rendition of whatever you call it, the debate prep. he has been doing it. he realized the body language, that he made a mistake. for him to go back and apologize to the press or explain what he did, that is saying something. >> francesca back in here for a second. what will the headline be in your paper tomorrow? >> well -- >> why are you laughing? i want that information. >> well, what i have been writing about has been the immigration battle. it has been john kasich's standout moment. whether that was a good or bad standout moment remains to be seen. he hit trump card, elbowing jeb
with bush and kasich and the rest desperately trying to get into the second tier. >> i think the biggest battle i am paying attention to is rubio versus cruz. we know about the outsiders, trump and carson, but which one of these senators, who's going to emerge as the champion of their wing? i think cruz was coming up on that trump message. he is ready in case one of the outsiders fade to catapult ahead. >> hold on there. thank you for tonight. get to bed. robert costa. don kasich took part in the debate. he joins us now. thank you for joining us. i guess the big fight he got involved in was over immigration. you charged it was silly and not an adult conversation to be talking about, sending 11 million people back. is that what you think trump is telling or is that in an emblem of how angry he is about illegal immigration, that he doesn't tend to go that far? >> on that, snake oil.
rand paul and kasich was certainly agitated and seemed to try and, you know, bring the card under control. >> what did you make of trump tonight? tonight. >> i was watching it. i never understood why trump's candidacy has been taken seriously. i think the hateful things, the xenophobic statements he has made are unforgivable. it's a mystery to me that he has done as well as he has. i felt like he looked a little wobbly up there. >> what did you make of another voice out there when fiorina, carly fiorina, she was out there tonight jumping in at one point. a lot of them were jumping out. along came trump. let's watch what he said. >> you can be strong without being involved in every civil