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like an ally and say all the right things. you look at the ratings. 2.4 million viewers, that's quadruple last year. that kind of growth doesn't happen anywhere in this industry. you wonder how quickly can the pay catch up in order to -- >> right. donna, we're talking about fairness and pay, pro athletes, a lot of them come from colleges where they bring in huge dollars and they're not paid. you ran schools with major teams. miami, wisconsin, what's your take on student athletes getting paid? >> first of all, they're getting paid now in a different way in a wild west market. i would like to see some more discipline in that market because i would like more of them to get paid. but that's not gonna happen unless there's an antitrust exemption that we see congress pass. but student athletes at the
and she's so -- i mean, i've met her a few times, but she's so nice. >> she's extraordinary. my mvp is in the entertainment wellment as well. it's kevin bacon. you might not know why. 40 years after he taught high school kids that it is not a sin to dance, the star of foot loose is going back to where it all happened. listen to me, students at the high school in utah, they led a two-year campaign to convince kevin bacon to come back to their school, that included recreating scenes from the movie, raising money for his charity, and they did it just in time. the school is going to get torn down early next year, so this is going to be the last prom where foot loose was filmed. but the dancing will always live on. kevin bacon. alex, donna, brian, judy, thank you all. you are a fantastic friday night dates. for you at home, i wish you a
it is time for our mvps of the week. who had a big one? >> so, look, i tried to be funny and creative because it's night cap, but i couldn't get past the trump jurors and everything that they have gone through to get to where they are and what we know lies ahead. i would probably say the trump jurors -- trump trial jurors for the next six weeks. i just think everything honestly that they are going to have to weigh and do, literally upholding democracy, upholding truth, upholding all these things. it's not going to be easy. >> donna. >> president of columbia university. she nails her testimony before congress. she did brilliantly before congress, and then she goes home and has to do a very painful act, and that is have her students arrested because they were disrupting the campus. she's really absolutely first
jurors are in today. i think sometimes news rooms are forgetting we're not in a pre-trump culture with different rules. we're in a different environment now. >> don't you think the fact the judge said it cannot be delayed, what you were saying about everyone thought it was going to take so long to pick these jurors, and today they tried to -- >> donna, let's talk about the split screen that brian referenced at the top of the hour. you've got donald trump sitting in a courtroom. i mean, trapped in a courtroom. a guy who never abides by anybody else's rules, and joe biden is out there on the campaign trail. do you think these two visuals, these side by sides are going to impact independents, undecided voters? >> well, i think it's cumulative. so it's this plus everything else that's going on. one thing i want to say about donald trump in the courtroom. remember, he's not a morning person. so he's got to get up earlier than he's ever gotten up before,
become president? >> heads down. they're in hiding. they're groundhogs. >> do you think, donna, that president biden isn't necessarily getting as much credit from the business community because he doesn't spend very much time with them? >> of course he's not getting enough time from the business community. but on some of these other issues, watch florida. we've got abortion on the ballot in florida. we've got a bipartisan coalition. our polls show that we have to get 60% of the vote. >> you think florida is winnable for the president? >> i don't know if it's winnable for the president, but i think we can win the abortion issue in florida. >> wow. love that. even is staying right here. when we return, women's hoops getting a jolt of excitement. but can it last long enough to get these ladies the pay they deserve? we're going to get to it when the 11th hour and night cap continue.
deeper dive into project 2025. get to know this thing. it is a 900 page trade book manifesto from some of trump's closest allies, laying out 22nd trump presidency will look like from day one. here is an example. conservatives should gratefully celebrate the greatest profamily win in a generation. overturning roe v wade that for decades made a mockery of our constitution and celebrated the deaths of unborn children. >> donna, you are the person i want to talk about this with. during the clinton administration, your secretary for the artman of health and human services. project 2025 wants to got it and rename it the department of life. you know exactly what this agency does and how important their work is. what is your take on this plan?
and i feel like sometimes, newsrooms are forgetting that we are not in a pre-trump culture with pre-trump rules. >> and don't you think the fact that the judge said it cannot be delayed, what you are saying about everyone thought it was going to take so long to pick these jurors, and today, they tried -- yeah. >> donna, let's talk about the split screen that brian referenced sort of at the top of the hour. you got donald trump sitting in a courtroom. trapped in a courtroom. a guy who never abides anybody else's rules, and joe biden is out there on the campaign trail. do you think these two visuals, the side-by-side, are going to impact independence and undecided voters? >> i do gets cumulative. so it's this, plus everything else that is going on. one thing i want to say about donald trump in the courtroom -- remember, he's not a morning person. he's got to get up earlier than
deeper dive into project 2025. get to know this thing. it is a 900 page playbook manifests so fr trumps closest allies and far right conservatives laying out what a second trump presidency would look like from day one. here's an example. conservatives should gratefully celebrate the greatest for family win in a generation, overturning roe v wade. a decision that for 5 decorate made a mockery of our constitution and facilitated the death of tens of millions of unborn children. but the dobbs decision is just the beginning. donna, you are the person i want to talk about this with. during the clinton administration, your secretary for the department of health and human services. project 2025 wants to got it and rename it the department of life. you know exactly what this agency does, how important their work is. what is your take on this plan? how alarmed are you?
and the great opportunity ahead. >> it sounds like a white guy just wanted to be an ally and say the right things. you look at the finals in the draft, 2.4 million fuel your -- viewers, that is quadruple last year. that kind of growth doesn't happen anywhere in this industry. when you see the charts, you wonder how weekly can the pay catch up? >> donna, we are talking about fairness and pay for pro athletes. a lot of them come from colleges where they bring in huge dollars and they are not paid you ran schools with major teams, miami, wisconsin, what you take on student athletes getting paid. >> they are getting paid, now. in a different way. in a wild west market. i would like to see some more discipline in that market because i would like more of them to get paid. but that is not going to happen unless there is an antitrust
>> is a like a white guy who just wanted to sound like an ally. but when you look at these charts with the ratings, with the finals in the draft on friday on espn, 2.4 million viewers, that is quadruple last year. that kind of growth doesn't happen anywhere in this industry. when you see those charts, you wonder how quickly -- >> giddyup. donna, we are talking about fairness in pay for pro athletes. a lot of them come from colleges where they bring in huge dollars and they are not paid. you ran schools with major teams. miami, wisconsin -- what is your take on student athletes get paid? >> first of all, they are getting paid right now. they're getting paid now in a different way in a wild west market. and i'd like to see some more discipline in that market, because i'd like more of them to get paid. that's not going to happen unless there's an antitrust exemption that we see congress pass.