police stormed a house that s just a few blocks from here and they took in three people for questioning. those people have since been released. it s also worth noting that the st. louis county police as well as the missouri state highway patrol are now going to be taking over the security detail at protests. this started last night, they want to do this to make sure that everyone stays safe. it s also worth noting that two missouri congressmen are now offering a $3,000 reward for any information leading to the arrest of those responsible for this ambush shooting. aligna it s worthy of note there was such a flood of information about where people thought the shots came from and how the description of the shooter may be that it actually is something that s slowing down the investigation, they re getting more leads than they expected not less. that s a window into this community. thank you very much. the people who live here and the police have to figure out what to do with the recent shootings, they can t just be forgotten as somehow incidental. how will the community react? what will it be like on the streets of ferguson? we have ryan young bringing that part of the story. ryan? i think that s a very important point. people have been talking about the shooting saying they hate the fact that it s happened now it changes the conversation from one they were focused on. the fact they were talking about the ferguson police department now everyone is talking about the manhunt. i talk to one woman who said she did not want the attention to be moved from the police department now to the manhunt that s happening. but that s something that everyone here says they re happy to see folks getting involved. president obama spoke about what happened here and the fact that somebody needs to be brought to justice. there was no excuse for criminal acts. and whoever fired those shots shouldn t detract from the issue. they re criminals. they need to be arrested. and then what we need to do is to make sure that like-minded, good-spirited people on both sides, law enforcement who have a terrifically tough job and people who understandably don t want to be stopped and harassed just because of their race that we re able to work together to try to come up with some good answers. now obviously tensions may be high but look the community is telling me they re tired of being painted in one direction, they want to move the conversation and the shooting hasn t helped that. chris? ryan thank you for working the streets, very important perspective, we ll be back with you as well. let s bring in people who understand the community and the investigation, we have the columnist for the st. louis american lizz brown and former fbi assistant director tom fuentes. we spent a lot of time last night just over your shoulders is where the officers were shot. the vantage points they believe could be anywhere from where we re standing to up the hill on the street called tiffen. how difficult were these shots to hit, if the estimate of distance is anywhere near accurate let s say 80 to 125 yards? that distance is phenomenal. to shoot someone with a handgun and under the conditions at night, even with a rifle, with a scope, it would be difficult to hold it steady enough to shoot two officers standing side by side. it s not impossible shot. but it s a very difficult shot and it would indicate somebody has had firearms training. it s not one shot it s two. and as you know your witnesses put the shots anywhere from three to four to five shots. but still, it s two hits on a very small number of shots. doesn t that suggest, if anything that this distance that officers were not that into the investigation in terms of what they re telling us but maybe this distance was a lot small centre. it could be it s deceptive, you could have echo off the buildings, you could have having checked out the site also that the shooters could have been up on the roof of some of these strip mall buildings, putting them much closer and putting them higher so they re not shooting just over the tops of the heads of the protesters but having a higher angle. there s no question would you need trajectory otherwise, lizz you would have been hitting protesters and other people as the bullets are traveling towards the officers. it matters, because if the shooters were closer it does put them in the thick of the protest, the protesters want to be separated from the incident. but those shots came from somewhere and they probably came from somewhere closer. how do you think the shootings of these officers should be embraced as part of the dynamic in this community? obviously the journey towards justice, the journey towards the- doj report demonstrated and showed the world what s going on in this community. any time that you re headed towards fixing something like that it s going to be a rough journey. so obviously it s part of the journey. but i don t think that s where the focus should remain. because it s bigger than that. what is being sought here it s bigger than what happened a night ago. can you change the die nam nick this community if you don t address the potential threats to officers. to many that s what the shooting represents. it wasn t just someone angry and randomly it was the officers and the police in here it controls their mindset and policing strategy. it has to be part of the main conversation doesn t it? yes, but we also expect that some of the millions of dollars spent on police training kicks in here. this is where the police officers and the police chief get do demonstrate with us that they ve learned their training. it shouldn t be a surprise to a police officer. we re looking at a sometimes from the vantage point of a citizen. look at it from the vantage point of someone who is trained to do that. we expect them to we expect their training to kick in here. be professionals. yes. as a professional law enforcement officers if you know you re in a community where there s open animosity towards you and the community doesn t necessarily back you. there was protesters out here last night there was a vilgvigil. it was very small. if you ask people why there wasn t more people out here they say mixed feelings. how does that make the police department feel? it may take on the notion i think it should be noted when the shots rang out, two officers went down no officer returned fire. that might have been the intent of the shooters to have that happen. to create a situation where the police shot into the crowd and killed protesters. people were commenting somewhat negatively every officer drew a gun after that of course they did. but then again the training kicked in and fire was not returned. so you know i mean with respect to the people that showed up last night, i think that the community needs to be given credit for the fact that there were people that showed up. and also people that were concerned about the danger of being here too, so you had two different dynamics going on and also there is this is an action this is a movement. so of course other people are going to show up as well. there s no question that we ve had bad apples here from the beginning, everybody knows it who has been anywhere near the situation. and my question is i think that this is an opportunity for part of the positive change. that this community shows its support for the police. because you know there two points of view out here on the street. everybody knows that the culture of policing that came out of that building was negative and that was targeted. and people were making things up. like the president said nobody is majoring this stuff up. the doj had no skin in the game. people are saying all blue is blue. they said there s a culture here that has to change and the chief is gone. it s going to be more than that right? this community has to embrace those who police it and the police has to embrace those they are policing. it s a relationship. you cannot embrace someone within a relationship if they re not performing the way they need to be performing. when you have a police chief, whose first statement out about what happened is that the shots came from someone embedded with the protesters. that s inaccurate and provocative. so that s a relationship that didn t come out of thin air, so it s going to take some time to get to a relationship where it s healthy. quick thing, we don t know what happened yet. so we don t know that the shot didn t come from someone who was among the protesters. right. that s why the chief should have been circumspect and said nothing at all until he got the facts and the evidence. back on the day of the shooting of michael brown. when the crime scene investigators were trying to process the scene and the crowds were gathering, shots were fired then and the medical examiner of st. louis county ordered the criminal investigators to gather their stuff and get out. the history of shots being fired from an angry crowd, goes back to day one, 200-some days ago. that s part of the context of what their thinking would be. that s why progress is going to be so slow. because there s a dynamic on each side of this. and if they don t come together there will be no change. tom, lizz thank you very much. chris, thanks so much. there are also new details emerging this morning about the latest black eye for the secret service. those two senior agents suspected of driving a government vehicle after drinking at a party, and reportedly disrupting an active bomb investigation. we re also learning the new secret service director did not learn of the incident until days later. cnn s sunlen serfaty joins us live from the white house with more. what are we learning today in. that s right. rather than being notified immediately, the new secret service director joe clancy he was not told about the incident until five days after. that means accordle to law enforcement sources, that it s very possible that the director himself was told even later than the white house. this of course coming from the agency that the director has vowed to clean up. now there are still many facts that we still don t know about. everything that happened last wednesday evening. but we now do know this in addition to these two agents allegedly driving under the influence, we also know that they also drove under police tape disrupting an active investigation of a suspicious package that was also happening near white house grounds at the same time. but many sources pushing back about this notion that they barrelled through a barricade, some sources now saying that they deliberately nudged an orange barrier, just moving it aside a few feet. they said that they were going slow literally one mile an hour. but sources are saying that congress wants answers here. the question is why no sobriety test was given. why the agents were allowed to go by the supervisor. and one top republican in congress saying that he believes that this agency has now put the jeopardy and the safety of the first family in question. if it s true that these officers had suspected that these people had alcohol in their breath that they were driving that they impeded and got in the way of an active investigation, a potential bomb on the white house grounds, and the supervisor just decides to let them go i mean this is what is so terribly frustrating. the house oversight committee has called for clancy to turn over all photos surveillance videos and audio recordings of the night. they also want him to appear before congress next week. michaela? words, context matter we ll dig into this later in the show. secretary of state john kerry is in egypt attending an economic summit and meeting with senior officials on a range of security topics. including the ongoing battle against isis. this trip coming ahead of new talks in switzerland sunday on iran s nuclear program. let s get the latest from ian lee live in cairo. michaela he s talking to the president just right about now and really two things on the agenda. first, repairing relations between cairo and washington. things have cooled under the current president, although the fundamentals of the relationship remain fairly strong. also talking about security. egypt battles isis-aligned militants on its own soil. 200 miles from where the conference is being held is where they re fighting them. although security is very tight in that city of sharm el-sheikh. but egypt, what s keeping them up at night isn t those militants in northern sinai, but their western board wer libya. egypt wants to take a more direct approach when fighting isis in libya. arming the internationally recognized government and setting up blockades. washington does not see eye to eye, they want a diplomatic solution to solve the problem. they think a united front is the best way to defeat isis. those two, the secretary kerry and the president talking about this very important issue, ailsen? absolutely. we ll be getting analysis of that deal coming up on the program. breaking overnight, a medical helicopter crashing in oklahoma on its way from tulsa to mcallister. the faa says it went down in the town of eufaula. three employees were on board, no word on injuries or fatalities. a new unverified message from an isis spokesman says the terror group accepts boko haram s pledge of allegiance. this comes as both groups are dealt setbacks on the battlefield. boko haram has killed thousands in its bid to impose islamist rule in nigeria and neighboring countries, military forces have driven them from dozens of towns. another chapter of the sigma alpha epsilon fraternity under fire for racial slurs. the university of washington investigating claims that the sae members hurled racist comments at black students during a protest march last month. the sae chapter booted off the university of oklahoma campus plans to sue the university and possibly its president, david boren. on thursday the ou football team staged a silent arm in arm protest to condemn the racist chant video that has rocked their campus. ahead we ll have more from ferguson missouri where chris is. up next the united nations talking about lifting sanctions against iran as nuclear talks resume sunday in switzerland. we re going to take a closer look at the key players in this deal. who exactly are they? 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and let s bring in peter beinart, our cnn political commentator and contributing editor for atlantic media let s start with the reuters report out that they re considering as part of the deal lifting sanctions against iran. wasn t that always part of the deal? or is something bigger happening? there s two sets of sanctions to be concerned about. american sanctions that could be lifted by president obama himself to some degree and by congress. and then there are also multilateral sanctions through the united nations. the iranians want relief from both. so that s a bigger deal and the u.s. that would be a deal-breaker for the u.s.? or that s part of this negotiation? i think the obama administration probably envisages that if they get the deal they want there would be relief from the u.n. sanctions, as well as the american sanctions. whether congress wants that is a different question. got it let s talk about the key players, let s start with the ayatollah here. this is the person who well you tell me what is his role in the negotiations? ayatollah khamenei would be the final authority. he s the most powerful political lead anywhere iran. traditionally considered a hardliner, but recently has been giving rhetorically his blessing to these negotiations they re also reports that he s very sick. we don t know what his health is. we don t even know whether he will last as long as the negotiations do. that s interesting. he s also just recently in the past 24 hours, talked about the letter from the 47 gop senators he s called it u.s. tricks. rhetorically he s not always conciliatory. no. this is a man who has been very hostile to the united states his entire political career. and yet he seems to be giving the negotiators the room at least for now to potentially cut a deal. let s talk about this man, this is president rouhani, what s his significance in the negotiations? so president rouhani was elected in a surprise victory. primarily to relieve the sanctions and the economic pain that was really hurting the iranian economy. and rouhani seems to believe the only way to restore the iranian economy, he was elected to try to fix, is to cut a deal with the united states and the other major powers to lift some of the sanctions. let s talk about this person this is the foreign minister this is secretary kerry s counterpart in these negotiations what s his role been? he and kerry have spent a lot of time together reportedly developed quite a good working relationship and zarif is a western-educated guy, somebody who presents a better face to the regime than they have in the past and he ll be a critical player in whether or not they can iron out the details. he was said he was astonished by the gop letter. let s talk about benjamin netanyahu who is opposed to the deal. how much sway does he hold? he holds a considerable amount of sway. is a very popular figure in congress especially among republicans. benjamin netanyahu has always said an iranian nuclear weapon would be an existential threat to israel. he doesn t want to no longer want to be the only nuclear-armed power in the middle east. king solalman of saudi arabia. they re very concerned about iran getting near a nuclear weapon. saudi arabia is the most sunni country in the gulf has been a traditional rival of iran s they re concerned about iranian power and they re concerned about the united states which has been a very close ally with saudi arabia no longer being dependant upon saudi arabia if we grow closer to iran. how is secretary kerry negotiating the saudi concerns? he s been spending a lot of time with the saudi leaders trying to reassure them and what additional security guarantees the u.s. might offer to saudi arabia to protect them from the iranian threat. we know who president obama is and we know this is the author of the letter of the 47 senators. but how about senator bob menendez? what s his role in all this? very interesting. bob menendez is the leading democrat on the senate foreign relations committee. he s a democrats, but he s been a real thorn in president obama s side he s a critic of these negotiations and has pushed for sanctions, which the obama administration doesn t want. interestingly he s also now facing an investigation, a corruption investigation, and so his role politically, whether he survives this and whether he continues to rally democrats against the obama administration will be something to watch. peter beinart, great to get all of your information, over to michaela. we ll head back to chris in ferguson but first, we have riveting testimony in the both boston marathon bombing trial. the man who was carjacked by the tsarnaev brothers tells jurors about what he says was the most difficult decision of his life. we ll have his story, next. en laquinta.com sends craig wilson a ready for you alert the second his room is ready, ya know what he becomes? 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very unlikely. so then what is more likely? that people were closer. what s the problem with that? then that starts to mean that the shooter or shooters were part of the population of the protest. doesn t mean that they were protesters it doesn t mean that they were good people. but that confuses the nature i have been narrative here right now. do investigators think they re getting closer to good leads? yes. ironically they re dealing with too many leads right now. so many people saw things you think it would be obvious, well you saw the muzzle fire who was holding it? it was dark people were scattering. but the idea of people hiding who did it we don t see any evidence of that on the ground and we re not hearing that from investigators. they re dealing with a lot of information, they did take some people in for questioning. they are looking for two others right now. they re moving along and there s going to be an answer. the question is just when. they ve got their work cut out for them. great context for us to see that we ll get back to you shortly. meanwhile president obama s secret service detail under fire again. two high-ranking agents suspected of perhaps being drunk reportedly drove a government vehicle through an area where colleagues were investigating a suspicious package at the white house. one of the agents said to be involved is the number two man on the president s protective detail. the other, a senior supervisor in the washington field office. we re also learning that it took five days for the new secret service director joseph clancy to learn about that incident. urgent evacuations to tell you about in charleston west virginia. because a man-made hillside near yeager airport is slipping. and serious concerns that more slides will dam a creek and heavy rains will flood homes. landslides have destroyed at least one home and damaged a church there. a little levity here will ferrell, anchorman turned iron man, taking the the field for ten different teams in five spring training baseball games on thursday.- he struck out twice, watch two home runs sail right over his head. he did get a batter to ground him out while pitching for the dodgers. when it was over he told the crowd, ruth mantle will ferrell, who would have thought one day those names would be synonymous. part of an hbo special he s involved in. i love it. hardest working man in comedy. and apparently in baseball. that was great, thank you for the levity. there s gripping testimony to tell but in the trial against the boston bomber dzokhar tsarnaev. the man the tsarnaev brothers carjacked telling jurors about his life-or-death decision to make a run for it his daring escape was caught on surveillance cameras. cnn s deborah feyerick joins us from boston with more. just to see the video is incredible deb? and alisyn, the people in the courtroom were on the edge of their seats as they listened to the very dramatic albeit understated testimony of this chinese national. who to his right was an interpreter just to help with language problems he didn t seem to have any. what he did say was that it was one of the most harrowing nights of his life. and it was very clear by the images. kidnapped and carjacked by the boston bombers, 27-year-old dunn mang waited for a chance to run. when his suv pulled into a gas station. he found his opening and raced as fast as he could across the street to another gas station. watch as mang frantically tries locking the store door. begging the confused clerk to call 911, fearing the tsarnaev brothers will follow he crawls to the back and hides in a storeroom. the clerk gets the bliss on the line and gets mang. following the murder of m.i.t. officer shawn collier, tamerlan and dzokhar tsarnaev hijacked the mang suv. reportedly tamerlan pointed a gun at him. prosecutors say the brothers had placed home-made explosives in the car s trunk and drove mang to an atm and had mang withdraw cash. mang testified that tamerlan made small talk asking mang where he was from. mang replied, i m chinese. and tamerlan s response i m muslim muslims hate americans. and they stopped at this gas station. at the gas station, dzokhar goes inside to buy snacks taking his time picking out chips. that s when mang decided to run. surveillance video shows tamerlan going to tell his brother mang has escaped. he leaves the snacks and follows tamerlan mang alerted police his suv had gps tracking. a crucial break that helped police close in on the tsarnaev brothers. and tsarnaev sitting in the court seemed a little bit more engaged than he has been in the past week. in the past week he didn t seem to care about the witnesses who testified about the injuries they sustained. it seemed that watching himself on the surveillance video really sort of engaged him in a way it hadn t before. prosecutors are just burning through their case. they ve already had about 50 witnesses testify in just six days. they may be done a lot quicker than they anticipated and then they will move on to the guilt phase. michaela? deb. incredible to see the video, we heard so much about that story and to see it play out on video is incredible. it is time for cnn money now, chief business correspondent christine romans in the money center watching our money and the markets. hi there, stocks are up again for the year you guys it s been a wild week huge swings the dow fell 333 points on tuesday, yesterday stocks climbed 260 points that was enough to put us up for the year and not far from records. okay. the price tag of love are you tying the knot? i hope you saved your money. the average wedding cost $31,000 last year. the biggest cost? the venue, about $14,000 is the average. the engagement ring is next costing $6,000. couples in manhattan face the biggest tab, about $76,000. and the cost to elope? zero. just just a suggestion. christine, thanks so much. let s turn back to ferguson where chris is telling us showing us incredibly how this all went down. well that is the big question for investigators here. mick in ferguson who movement there were protests in the streets last night, the real story is the manhunt for now. two suspects who police say ambushed officers what will this do to the community? 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the group was so small last night and you said the community still has mixed feelings about police. absolutely. the mixed feelings are from years of the way that certain police have handled this community. but last night was the beginning or a continuing of the process we ve had as clergymen and as leaders in this community, to bridge that gap between the police and the community. we ve put out a statement of faith, and in support of our officers. praying for those officers and their families. but we want to make the message very clear. our support of our officers is not an either/or thing. it s an and thing. we support great policing. we support protecting our police as well as those in our community. and you say progress is being made stores are being built back up, jobs are coming to this community. people are working on the connections that weren t there frankly in years past with the police. absolutely. from the last time i ve spoke with you, we ve worked behind the scenes to build those relationships with chief belmar of the st. louis police department. that shooting put a damper on all of our hard work. we want everyone to calm down and realize that we trust that the police are going to bring to justice those individuals responsible. but we in the clergy we in the leadership of this community. we want to make it very clear we do not condone those actions of those individuals. but we also want to make sure that the narrative is written such that they re not connected to the work that we re doing. is it possible that they were in the crowd in yes, that s a possibility. but it s also possible that they were not in the crowd. so we would like for the police officers to take a step back and let the investigation work itself out. the same way they do when a community member is shot. don t put the pictures out there of the helmet with blood on it showing the evidence of the officers being shot. because when it s on our end, they tell us to wait and allow the investigation to take place. and that s where the hard questions come in you talk to law enforcements here. you talk to big members of this community here. they say exactly what didn t happen with michael brown. the hands up don t shoot started. when that wound up not being validated by the grand jury not validated by the doj report that the community specifically the black community was silent. nobody came forward and said well i guess darren wilson i guess he had his appraisal by the doj, which is not local cops and i guess it was self-defense. nobody said that. these cops get shot everybody says it s a distraction. that that hurts the feeling of a bond on the side of law enforcement. does that make sense? it makes perfect sense. the bible says it will take the foolish things to confound the wise. my mother always says two wrongs don t make a right. it s not good for us to come back and not say anything. it s not good for the officers to come out and say, they had a handgun, when you haven t had the evidence to prove so it s also not good for them to say they were in the crowd, when the evidence is not there yet. let s allow the evidence to take its place. we have to look at the doj report and realize there s evidence to prove that mike brown s hands was not up. let s not repeat that by saying the same thing here he was in the crowd or saying he had a handgun. why do you have to draw an equivalence. that s part of the frustration is that they did it with mike brown. maybe we re doing it right now. it goes back and forth wixt not just take things as they lie? you know what the doj report says about the mike brown shooting. you know what it says about the culture of policing right? if you give respect to both findings doesn t that help build community? and that s why i say it s an and thing. we in the african-american community, we ve been told for years to forget about slavery. forget about what has happened to us. so i think what happens in this narrative, we have to keep what happened to mike brown in the forefront so that it s not forgotten. let s not forget what happened to these young men all across this country when the limelight is put on when the tables are turned. we bring them both simultaneously together. so that as our counterparts in the jewish community does so often, we will never forget what happened. if we allow it to be pushed under the rug, our next generations will not be reminded of what has happened to the past. and the message is obviously very strong coming from you and hopefully it spreads, that this isn t just something that happened. this isn t a distraction. changing this community, part of it will be addressing violence towards officers and the respect that needs to be there. otherwise you will never have police being comfortable being in a community where they feel every time they put on the uniform, they could get shot. it s not just us it s justice, we are looking for justice in all walks of life. black life matters a lot of us have police officers in our families. we want them to come home to their families and protect those in the community. we re going through lent coming into easter easter is rebirth and renewal. a little sign that the reverend is trying to help here alisyn and michaela new baby in your family what s the name? kyree seth we open him with open arms he s healthy and strong. new baby new life. what do you think about the issues that surrounding these two police officers and the issues that remain here. can you go to facebook.com/newday, mick? that s such a nice message to end on. thanks so much. new information on the latest secret service scandal. the details a little murky voupding agents who had some sort of incident following a night of drinking. the big question why was their new boss kept in the dark for days? get theraflu. .with the power of three medicines to take on your worst pain and fever, cough and nasal congestion. it breaks you free from your toughest cold 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a suspicious package investigation. does that match what you re hearing? that s the same as i am hearing. the one sort of outrageous thing is they may have actually run over the suspicious package. all of that will come out in the details. and that s what i think is bothering some of the officers that were on the scene that night and that s maybe why this leak came out in the press. you have had joseph clancy not knowing for many days about this incident. five days. yes, and that s pretty outrageous. to this investigation, one of the things that s coming into question seems a little murkier. the details about whether or not they were drinking whether the agent driving was drunk at the time. and the fact that an officer who had wanted to do a field sobriety test was overruled by a supervisor that essentially sent them home. what are you hearing about all of that? well there will be eye witnesses that were at this retirement party for edwin donovan, a retiring secret service spokesman. and there will be witnesses. so if they were drinking that will all come out in the investigation. but i talked to lawyers and they say that the person who wasn t driving, he s going to be getting off, this is not a problem for him. it s the person who was driving. behind the wheel. exactly. we know the two agents involved have been named mark connolly, second in command of president obama s security detail. george ogilvie, a senior adviser in the d.c. office. these are high-ranking fellows. any word on discipline? if they have been or they will be? well what i have been told by an attorney who specializes in labor law, she said that they re going to be facing a 30-day suspension at least for the person who drove the government vehicle. that s misuse of a government vehicle. that s taxpayer dollars, they re not allowed to take these government vehicles to social events. and certainly not allowed to be drinking at the social events. so that s one of the things they re facing. and but it s going to be six to nine months before we months and months before this investigation wraps up. just what this agency that s already facing other challenges and perception issues doesn t need. they brought in joe clancy to oversee and to bring back the sterling reputation that the agency once had. he didn t get told about this until some five days into this. what is your sense of what people are saying? that he s doing the right thing? it will take time to turn this agency around? or is he not the right person to change it? well it s interesting, because president obama backed him strongly yesterday through his spokesman. so we have that confidence that the white house level. but what people are saying is that this is all too typical. that there s a culture of cover-up at the secret service. and that these supervisors often provide uneven discipline. and sometimes cover up misdeeds and misconduct. and maybe joseph clancy didn t even know about it. but the problem is is that he s from the inside he s not an outsider. and the independent panel recommended an outsider for this role to really shake things up. we have heard about this morale issue inside the agency for some time. dating back several months even perhaps years. we ve heard about the allegations of cover-up. is that still prevalent, even under clancy? well you know it seems like this incident is if this is an anomaly. that would be a good thing. but this incident really is raising the hackles of congressional investigators. and they want to see some strong response some strong action taken. and basically you re going to have to have a sped-up investigation and there s going to be some message that needs, that joseph clancy needs to do. he s going to have to send a strong message in this case. susan crabtree great to have you with us on new day, thanks for joining us and your great reporting. a whole lot of news, so let s get right to it. no justice, no peace! live from ferguson missouri once again. one thuggish opportunist can set back an entire movement. heinous and cowardly attacks. there is no trust for ferguson police department right now. we now know the identities of the two secret service agents. these officers had suspected alcohol on their breath. the new director of the secret service didn t even find out about this incident until about five days after it happened. three-quarters of the city of tikrit in northern iraq now back in government hands. for the iraqi army this is a crucial task. we saw them melt away in the face of isis last summer. one of the things that struck me is the charm and her humor. a lot of good ideas. this is new day, with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. good morning, welcome to your new day, i m coming to you live from ferguson missouri. there are protests here last night, there was a vigil for the officers as well. but the city very much divided and on edge. police in a desperate search for these two suspects now. in the ambush shootings of two police officers. we re going to have more on that in just a moment. first let me get you back to new york with alisyn and mick. chris, great to have you on the ground walking us through the geography and logistics, we ll get back to you in a second. also this morning we re learning more about the two secret service agents who allegedly drove on to white house grounds right through an active investigation. why did it reportedly take days for their boss to find out about this? also secretary of state john kerry is in egypt talking to middle east leaders about terrorism before these next round of nuclear talks with iran begin. we re going to get to all of that. first back to chris in ferguson. chris? the big question is who did it. yes, there were protests last night, yes, the message was the same. that they want justice or there will be no peace. but that message means a little something different now in the chateau of these two officers being shot. there s so many different witness accounts of where they came from. it s actually complicating this investigation. let s get to you cnn s aileenalina machado. monitoring the manhunt. authorities are tracking down the leads. they re trying to find the people responsible for this ambush shooting. even though it s been more than 24 hours since the two officers were gunned down outside this police department we know that there are no arrests so far. now, we also know that authorities say they ve identified two people they believe may have been involved one of them could even be the shooter. so far they have not found these people. and they continue searching for them. now, just hours after the shooting, we know authorities went to a house that s just a few blocks from where we are. they talked to three people they took them into questioning. and those people have since been released. we talked to those people. they tell us they were asked about their whereabouts during the protest and were also asked they saw the shooter. they told us they had nothing to do with what happened and they didn t see anything. it s worth noting that the st. louis county police department and the missouri state highway patrol are now taking over the security detail during protests. this is going to happen from this point on. they want to make sure they have the right security in place to make sure that this doesn t happen again. and it s also worth noting that thanks to two missouri congressmen there is now a reward being offered in this case a $3,000 reward for any information that leads police to the shooter. chris? all right, alina, that s part of the story of the bigger motivation of this community, to find justice for their police. what will the shootings do to the effort to bring this community together? let s go to ryan young, he s tracking down the story about how the community will deal with what just happened. chris, a lot of people talking about that. in fact there was a prayer vigil last night where clergy were coming together to urge peace. especially in the streets. we did see protesters move outside and once again, block traffic. and protest. obviously they want their voices heard. but i talked to people here and they were upset that once again the focus has been moved off the entire investigation, to talk about progress because of two officers being shot. it s something that the entire law enforcement community is also talking about because of the safety of the officers. president obama was on jimmy kimmel last night and he talked about his thoughts over the latest shooting. there was no excuse for criminal acts. and whoever fired those shots shouldn t detract from the issue. they re criminals. they need to be arrested. and then what we need to do is to make sure that like-minded, good-spirited people on both sides, law enforcement who have a terrifically tough job, and people who understandably don t want to be stopped and harassed just because of their race that we re able to work together to try to come up with some good answers. so you hear the president s words. but attorney general eric holder also called the shootings an ambush. and went on to say whoever the shooter was, is a punk. chris? well said. ryan thank you very much we re working the story. now we re going to get some perspective from general counsel for the st. louis police officers association, and attorney for officer darren wilson neil bontrager, very good to have you with us counsel. thanks chris. we keep hearing this phrase i want your comment on it. these shootings of these officers should not be a distraction to the progress. do you see these shootings as a distraction or are they a part of a dynamic that needs to be addressed in order for there to be any progress? i don t see them as a distraction. i don t see them as related to what we re doing. obviously what s happened is terrible. it happened here up at ferguson. i don t think this is part of the movement. so let me say that i want to separate that out. it was a criminal act. someone who was acting as a criminal. i don t think it was the peaceful protesters think it s somebody who is a criminal. i think there s a lot we need to talk b. i think it is part of the bigger narrative, what it displays is what police officers face every day. which is what? they face threats and danger and loss of life. they were out here that night. the two police officers here weren t ferguson police officers one was a st. louis county police officer and another one is from webster s grove where i live. they were assigned to be up here. because we needed to have police officers up here. every day when they put on their belt. they don t know if they re going to go home and that s what we saw here. people question the supposition about how the protests rk policed. they say in new york police walk along the side and you can go wherever you want to go. here they re always pushing us into confined areas, and that always creates unrest. do you believe the tactics being used by the police are too inflammatory? no i think they re being careful. i ve been part of the conversation about what they re supposed to do the police community says look we re probably not doing enough. we probably need to do more in that regard. there s a balance that has to be struck. in the end it s about peace and it s about safety. so again, what the police officers are doing and what the command rank officers are doing is making sure they re balancing the first amendment rights that individuals have to gather and speak against issues. you ve got to strike a balance. and when you do something s got to give on either side. everybody has to be willing to cooperate. it s hard to imagine a more damning doj report than the one that came out about the police department here. it does seem there were predatory police practices, racially or revenue oriented. they were targeting people in ways that were unjust and maybe racially motivated. how do you own that report and make the changes that needed to be made? i don t think the report was necessary in order to understand the changes need to be made. i have some criticisms about the report but it would take me an hour to go through all of those things. it doesn t mean we don t have problems we do. it s not just ferguson it s around the country we had marchs in new york california everywhere. which says to me in the policing community, we ve got an issue, we ve got to deal with these issues. specific allegations, new york city i never heard of them chasing after blacks for fines, 95%, everyone who gets hit for jaywalking. it looks like targeted practices, period. there are a lot of assumptions that report makes. if i had an hour on the witness stand with whoever it is that authored that report. i can tell you they would have a lot of problems justifying it. i don t think it would pass judicial muster. but that s not important. what is important is we do have real issues we have to deal with. the problems they re talking about here in ferguson i think they were general jen rated by revenue more than anything else generated by revenue. why didn t they bust all the whites? i think they did. i don t think the issue is they were targeting blacks, they were targeting everybody. but the numbers look like they were a disproportionate number of blacks. 67% black in ferguson. but jennings immediately to the east is better than 90% black. if you look at berkeley to the west it s better than 80% black. i need to know who s in that car. i need to know a lot more about who is being stopped and why. they do tell you that the percentage was lower for blacks who wind up having an action, a prosecutable offense than it was for whites stopped for the same thing. it doesn t give you real numbers. it looks bad. i m not saying it doesn t. i m simply saying there s a lot more we need to understand. but i don t want to get distracted by arguments over statistics. except that the change will be slowed if the premise is not accepted. which is you ve got a culture problem here and that means top-down. i don t think we have a culture problem here. i think we ve got a culture problem all over the place regarding policing and that s a two-way street. think that ferguson is simply the poster child for it right now. now again let s say in also i think the justice department has no intention of coming into this police department and managing this police department. i think the point is to disassemble this police department. so again, ultimately what you re going to do is close them out. i don t think ferguson could withstand a consent decree the cost is too high. you mean having a different set of people running this place? i mean by consent decree putting yourself in a position where you re being monitored by the justice department on a regular basis. those kind of bills can run as much as $2 million, they cath do that and have a police department so what they re going to probably have to do is disassemble the police department disband it and bring st. louis county in so they can do this. the problem in terms of change then becomes, if you want to change, chief jackson came from st. louis county. chief ikoff who is sitting here now, going to be the the acting chief. came from st. louis county. who are you going to bring in? st. louis county. that s not the change perhaps that people want. so again what i m coming back to chris is it s not going to look like people think it s going to look. i think if you drill down into all this i think in order to really make change we re going to have to change on a much broader scale. not just ferguson not just st. louis county. not just st. louis city it s got to be everywhere. another doj report came out that not only said they can t prosecute darren wilson because they can t make the bar. they believe that most of the evidence most of the witnesses suggest that darren wilson s account was true. right. what does that mean to him? well it means across the board, that there was a false narrative, okay? it means that literally to everybody. the biggest complaint i have about the way the justice department has handled everything is that he didn t point out the false narrative. they should have said simply look we ve looked at this line by line. witness by witness, we ve done everything we need to do and here s the unavoidable conclusion. what they should have said is you needed to have confidence in the investigation that went on. all we ve heard about is a lack of confidence in policing right? we know the grand jury did what they should have done because the doj report vindicates that. they should have come out and said that. and they didn t do any of that. they left that sort of hanging. i m still hearing people who are saying he had his hands up. i m hearing people saying that he tried to surrender. all of those things have been disproved. and yet people are still grasping at these other things. let s talk about the things we really need to talk about. in order to do that we have to have real facts. we have to focus on the real issues. you have to be honest about the problems on both sides. sure. counsel, thank you so much. we re committed to the story to see the progress as well not just the problems. thanks i appreciate that chris, i do. back to you, alisyn? that conversation just perfectly sort of exemplifies that the devil is in the details there and how to move forward. the solutions are complicated. well meanwhile president obama expressing disappointment with the latest embarrassing incident involving the secret service, two high-ranking agents driving in a government vehicle allegedly after drinking at a party and disrupting an active bomb investigation in the process. cnn s sunlen serfaty is live at the white house with more. rather than being informed immediately about the incident the new secret service directoror was told five days after the incident. that according to law enforcement sources says it s very possible he might have been informed even later than the white house. this of course is coming from the agency that he has vowed to fix. now, many facts are still unclear about the incident. we now know that in addition to the two secret service agents who allegedly were driving under the influence, in addition had according to law enforcement sources, they drove under police tape and disrupted an active investigation of a suspicious package that was also happening at the same time on white house grounds. congress now is calling for more answers, why there were no arrests. why no sobriety tests. and why that supervisor intervened and led to those agents going home that evening. a top republican says that the agency has put the safety of the first family at risk. if it s true that these officers had suspected that these people had alcohol in their breath that they were driving, that they impeded, got in the way of an active 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is aaron david miller the vice president for new initiatives and a distinguished scholar at the woodrow wilson international center. he previously was an adviser to six secretaries of state on the arab/israeli peace process. great to see you this morning. let s talk about the new report. so it s possible that part of the deal could mean u.n. sanctions being lifted against iran. does this come as a surprise? it s an ongoing effort. it s actually been tried before. in 06 and 07. in exchange for stopping its enrichment program and revealing it. germans and the french really did offer to reverse sanctions. never quite worked. and i think these talks frankly have been in the works for a while. it s an indication to me, though not that the negotiations are going so well that the p5+1 needs an additional tool or incentive to compensate for the obvious reality that it s going to be extremely hard for this congress and this president to work out an arrangement by which sanctions are eased, let alone lifted. so i think this is an effort to induce if anything the iranians to consider moving forward. as we were just saying you ve worked with six secretaries of state, you ve been around negotiations like this for decades, yet you say this one is one of the toughest you ve ever seen. how so? every negotiation has a rhythm and an ebb and flow. any number of moving parts. and the key of course is to reduce those numbers of moving parts. define the gaps get the decision-makers to close on them. i ve never seen something like this. first of all, there s the issue itself. we re not talking about a peace treaty. we re talking about putative nuclear weapons state which raises the stakes in the drama. second you have fundamentally suspicious allies the israelis the gulf states the saudis who are persuaded we re not only negotiating a bad deal on the nuclear issue, but we re about to make iran the centerpiece of our middle eastern strategy. add to that the domestic political constraints. you ve seen the boehner invitation to prime minister netanyahu. the letter of 47. by the way, it s not just our congress. you have domestic constraints on the other side. the supreme leader himself, unlike congress has the right at any time in the interests of the state of the islamic republic to cancerscel and revoke any agreement. so there s considerable opposition there. and then you ve got the reality that this is a very tricky deal there are no good deals here. there are just deals that minimize the nature of the risks for both sides. you talk about the supreme leader. and being distrustful. we have a perfect example of this. just yesterday the ayatollah khamenei put out this statement, he says and i m quoting, of course i m concerned. because the other side is into deception, trickery and back-stabbing. he s talking about the u.s. and the p5+1 countries. is that bluster? or is that a harbinger of the deal falling apart? i think it could be both. but what it is for sure is a deep reflection of this man s fundamental mistrust. united states. and we can t forget that the government uses the united states to maintain its own legitimacy. it plays to their advantage to sometimes portray the international community. but particularly the americans as victimizers. and denying of iranian rights. and that s a very effective tool to mobilize his constituency. as well as to try to preempt the prospects of political change or at least control it. in his own country. look in the end, no good deals, just varying, variations of bad ones. but at the end of the day, alisyn if there s going to be a deal i would put the odds at 50-50 right now. by the end of march, you re going to need three things. you re going to need intrusive inspections and monitoring. will iranians agree to the intrusive inspections? i don t think there s any other alternative. you re going to need to extend that break-out period. and the break-out period merely means the time in which iran would be able to produce one bomb grades worth of uranium, of uranium for a weapon. that should be extended to a year. to give the international community both the time to detect react and if necessary, take action. and finally this is the core point with respect to congress this is why the dysfunction with congress is so devastating at this point. the administration needs to find a way to work with congress to insure that if in fact the iranians do break out, with severe violations that the administration and congress could set into motion certain trigger mechanisms additional sanctions and yes, if necessary, military action. if tehran breaks out. we re in a situation where the executive branch and congress each in their own way, are complicating the pursuit of this agreement. and in the end there are no guarantees. we re trapped, i m afraid alisyn between unrealistic aspirations that we re going to eliminate any iranian nuclear program on the one hand and any realistic alternatives if we re smart and tough enough delay substantially and degrade that program. and that s the real choice. aaron david miller you have spelled out perfectly how complicated this weekend will be for secretary kerry. we appreciate your expertise and you walking us through this. thank you. alisyn thank you so much. well the battle for isis with isis for tikrit iraqi forces appear to be winning with the help of iran s military. what could iran s role mean for the united states going forward? the real question that needs to be asked is what is it that we can do that is impactful? what the cloud enables is computing to empower cancer researchers. it used to take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome; with the microsoft cloud we can analyze 100 per day. whatever i can do to help compute a cure for cancer, that s what i d like to do. ferguson is on edge a manhunt under way for two people believed to be involved in the ambush of two police officers that were shot early thursday morning. one of them could be the shooter. police say the shots were fired from about 120 yards away or more. both wounded officers are now out of the hospital and are recovering. we re going to take you live to ferguson with chris cuomo just ahead. also president obama s secret service detail under the microscope this morning. two high-ranking agents suspected of being drunk and reportedly driving through an area where colleagues were investigating a suspicious package at the white house. one of the agents said to be the number two man on the president s protective detail. the other, a senior supervisor in the washington field office. according to cnn sources, the new director james, joe clancy did not learn about the incident for days. a canadian tourist has been killed after a small inflatable tour boat collided with a gray whale after the coast of cabo san lucas, mexico. the victim identified as jennifer karen, the 35-year-old was rushed to the hospital. doctors could not save her. two other people aboard the boat also suffered minor injuries. my gosh that s terrible. president obama poking fun at himself. reading mean tweets about him during an appearance on jimmy kimmel last night. a coors rank 30-rack is $23 at sun stop. thanks obama. somebody send obama some life hacks on how to be a good president, ha ha. like i bet that would help. l.o.l. you know l.o.l. is redundant when you have the ha ha ? i m all right with the president wearing jeans. i m not all right with the president wearing those jeans. i think i get the point. oh okay. that is kind of great. i think those are probably not the meanest he s ever seen. i think you re right. it s great to read mean tweets you and i should do it at some point. maybe with a glass of something in our hands. i like how you think. iraqi forces have been making gains against ice nis tikrit with support of iran. how does iran s involvement shape what happens next in the war against the terror group? joining us for some perspective, cnn military analyst major general james spider marks, thanks for joining me this morning. let s talk about tikrit and why it is so crucial. are you able to hear me? i ve got you michaela. my apologies. talk to us about why tikrit is so crucial. that was an enterquestion. what s happening is that the iraqi security forces to have a major offensive against isis in iraq. they re enjoying success, which is a good thing. the challenge we see is that iran has a very strong influence in the form of a militia and some significant leadership that s in place to galvanize that militia. to support the isf. so the success on the ground is a good thing as we ve indicated. but that s a tactical result that we re seeing. strategically moving forward, the challenge becomes what type of other influence will iran be able to generate in iraq and that s the challenge. and it s been there all along. again, tactically right now unless the united states or someone else can provide an alternative that will yield the same type of success, tactically which is what has to happen right now, then there is no alternative. iraqis will continue to lean on iran and the force that s in place and that s not a good thing in terms of how we move forward with iran. we have zero past performance in being able to influence actions on the ground vis-a-vis iran. and for to us assume we can moving forward is a concern. general dempsey echoes your concern about the involvement of iran. listen to what he had to say. look iran is going to be influential in iraq. has been influential in iraq. and i am concerned about the way they wield that influence, there s ways they could wield it to promote a better iraq economically for example. and there s ways they can wield that influence to create a state where the sunni and the kurds are no longer welcome. and it s my concern about the latter that we re watching carefully as this tikrit event unfolds. and it s the question of which direction iran will go as the strategy moves forward and as the u.s. figures out its involvement in this. well you know michaela we have no evidence that iran is going to do anything that would be positive toward a successful outcome or a shared vision with the united states or other regional partners. that s going to be to anybody s benefit other than tehran s. so i don t, i understand what general dempsey is saying completely. we should be optimistic that they might be able to we might be able to achieve that kind of outcome. what i see happening is we re backing ourselves into a strategy because iran is helping iraq be successful tactically on the ground, we now can assume ideally that they might help us lead down a path that leads us to a strategic outcome that s favorable. i don t see that. i want to turn to a situation, quite alarming a report that 40 iraqi soldiers were killed. isis apparently dug a tunnel underneath the headquarters of their headquarters killing these 40 iraqi soldiers. detonating ieds. we have seen unusual tactics and terrible tactics and the lengths that isis will go to. this is another example of the challenging foe isis represents. well absolutely. and what it really tells you is that isis has a presence and with that presence they are able to conduct operations. you don t dig underground, you don t conduct operations subterranean operations that take effort time engineering capabilities explosives capabilities clearly they have those capabilities and techniques embedded in their force. in order to accomplish something like this this takes a lot of intelligence it takes a lot of familiarity with the ground with the conditions. this indicates that isis has a very strong presence. we have known that. but in order to accomplish this that s a long-term engagement with some really horrible results for the isf. major general spider marks we appreciate you joining us. have a great friday. full stop. i ll pay attention next time. delivery was my error, apologies, have a great weekend. 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serious situations going on in ferguson missouri. let s bring in benjamin crump, the attorney for michael brown s family. you ve been at the center of this since august 9th when this first happened with the shooting. the family is very concerned about what these shootings of these officers could mean. what is that concern? well first they offer their sympathies to the officers and their families. and i hope that the law enforcement community offers sympathies to her and her family as they continue to encourage the community to work with the police. this is not what they wanted violence is never the solution. so they are saying work with the police so we can find these criminals who committed this heinous act. but more importantly, this is the opportunity for us to see how far we ve progressed since august. the community and the police department in ferguson trying to work together on a common goal. not just those findings from doj, because that is what we really want to get back the focus on. and also we re trying to find out who committed this heinous act. while we keep hearing that we don t want the shootings to be a distraction from advocates in the community, in a way they are not a distraction, they re a part of the policing culture in this community. that is going to affect behavior by police. not just vengeful behavior. you took shots on two of ours we re going to be hard on you. and what the community needs to put out is a message of respect. we hope that the police will not see this as a them versus the community. not even them versus the african-american community. but an opportunity to say this we can work together. the community and the police can come together and we can get the results of not only sending a clear message to america that this won t be tolerated. we won t stand for violence and we have some serious issues and problems we need to be focused on. and we don t need any distractions from that hover did this heinous act as we said before is not a supporter of michael brown junior. think about what was going on. we were addressing finally the serious issues finding in the doj report and anybody who has been working with the brown family this is the last thing you wanted. right. because, look it proves that there are deep issues leer. that the police there are risks to them in the community. that has to be addressed as well. i want to look at both aspects of the doj report. do you believe any way you can mitigate the strength of what was said about this police department? absolutely. we talk about the findings there were two reports. the one report said you had this pattern of discrimination and excessive force against african-americans. and they talked about this overt racism in the emails. but then on the other hand they said but the police officer who shot michael brown wasn t affected by this. so you got to make sense of all of that. you have the cesspool of racism but saying it s not going to spill over to the individual officers. these is the serious problem. the lawyer for darren wilson represents the officers of st. louis county. he said there was some false premises in that report about the culture here and it s really about a problem that s all over the country. not just ferguson. that ferguson isn t the problem. do you agree with that. i think everybody in my community who has read that report would say, that s what we ve been saying all along. we are treated differently by the police and so forth. however, you cannot deny those things in the report. the raw statistics. it s not simply that there are just more blacks so blacks are going to be higher in every category. yeah. remember this chris there are bad actors on both sides there are bad actors within the department. there are bad actors in the african-american community. and what we have to say is we want to make sure we hold everybody accountable so don t run away from this report. don t try to deny this report let s say it s some serious issues we got to address. and if we don t get our head out the sand nobody can move forward. you have the other aspect of the doj report which is about the michael brown shooting. the criticism would be why isn t the community coming out to support that finding the way they re supporting the findings about the culture of policing saying all right, they did their investigation, it looked like darren wilson they believe was telling the truth. the community is there s some people in the community that have the support of that i would say look at the report for yourself. you have to ask yourself chris, the killing of an unarmed teenager when is he going to be cross-examined by anybody? ask the tough questions about inconsistencies. ask the tough questions about why you had to shoot. we haven t had that. i get why you want that. people in the african-american community just think if that was us the rules just different. they would be asking us all these tough questions. well it depends, it depends. if you didn t get indicted you would never be cross-examined by a lawyer. there lies the problem. it is a problem of perception. exactly. he twoent a grand jury they said he shouldn t be prosecuted. the doj who everybody celebrated coming in here eric holder he ll make everything right. his findings are that they believe darren wilson. why isn t that getting supported more? i think people are saying when you look at all of these killings of unarmed people of color, eric gardner, tamir rice. we re told our lives don t matter because the deaths are swept under the rug and no police officer is never held accountable. are we to say that a police officer is never wrong when they kill a person of color? that s the message that s going out. you had the case with the kid coming down the stairs and the officers shot at him, he was indicted. every case is different. every case is absolutely different. but there s no denying the perception in america, when people of color are killed that we are not given equal justice when it s the police on the other side. that s what we got to deal with. if we want to have trust and faith on both sides, we got to say at some point, police officers got to be held accountable for killing us too. you look at the statistics why is it happening at such an alarming rate in america today? understood that s the problem and the hard part is obviously finding an answer not just the perception but the reality. we have a lot of work to do. alisyn to you. on a lighter note prince charles is opening up about his love life. and his life as a grandfather with another heir on the way, we take you live to london for the cnn exclusive. s craig wilson a ready for you alert the second his room is ready, ya know what he becomes? great proposal! let stalk more over golf. great. how about over tennis? even better. a game changer! the ready for you alert, only at laquinta.com. in our house, we do just about everything online. and our old internet 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called them, that she s faced in her public profile up against that legend that was princess diana. i think the public, polls show this have warmed to her over time. and i think the palace strategy has changed a bit. they re not trying to spin people into liking her, they re actually just letting her be herself and as people meet her they learn to like her. i asked prince charles about that how her character doesn t always come across on camera. it s a peculiar thing. sometimes the camera but also inevitably you are perhaps a bit more relaxed when it s slightly more private. we don t want people totally surrounded all the time by the dreaded camera. reporter: the dreaded camera. now he knows what life is like for us alisyn. except we like it. max, that looks fascinating. it s great you got him to open up. we ll tune in to that. thanks so much. be sure to watch the cnn documentary spotlight charles and camila this saturday at 7:30 p.m. eastern only on cnn. tons of people are tossing 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people are now wanted for questioning in connection with this ambush but there s a lot of other news this morning. let s get you to alisyn and michaela for that. chris, we will talk to you about that manhunt very shortly when we go back to ferguson. meanwhile, the identity of two secret service agents have been revealed. why did it take days before the secret service director found out about this incident? a lot of questions about that. we ll explore a new report about u.n. sanctions could affect nuclear talks this weekend. let s head back to ferguson and chris cuomo. chris. reporter: all right. the shooting of these two officers just brought everything into very sharp focus once again. it happened early thursday morning, and it is now what this community is going to do to deal with the very two distinct ideas about what change means here. let s get to cnn s alina mu chadachado about the manhunt. they believe they re getting close. what s the latest? reporter: that s right, chris. we know authorities have been chasing countries down a number of leads. even though it s been more than 24 hours since the two officers were shot here we haven t heard of any arrests at least not yet. what we do know is that authorities have identified two people two people of interest that they want to talk to. one of them they believe may be the shooter. aye few hours after the shooting police were here in the area talking to people and they went to a house that s just a few blocks away from here. we know they took in three people for questioning. those people have since been released. they told cnn that they were asked about their whereabouts during the shooting they were asked if they saw anything suspicious. they tell us they did not. we know that a $3,000 reward is being offered in this case thanks to two missouri congressmen. they say they want to do everything they can to help police find the shooters. we also know there s been a change. the ferguson police department will no longer be involved or in charge of the security detail here during protests. that responsibility is now being given to two other agencies the st. louis county police department as well as the missouri state highway patrol chris. all right, alina. thank you so much. there were protests last night but they were smaller and more quiet. there was a vigil for the officers and that was even smaller than the protests. how will this community deal with what just happened to these officers and then what is the way forward? let s get to ryan young who s been working the streets for us on that angle. ryan? reporter: chris, a lot of people were talking about this especially sings the video has been shown so widely so they did have that visual and the clergy were calling for calm. we did see protesters take to the streets. a lot smaller of a crowd. they did block the traffic and there were officers around. nothing like we saw the night before. you have to remember the officers weren t even engaged with anybody when they were shot. the president was on jimmy kimmel and he called this act pretty cowardly. there was no excuse for that and whoever fired those shots shouldn t detract from the issue. they re criminals. they need to be arrested and then what we need to do is make sure like minded good spirited people on both sides, law enforcement who have a terrifically tough job and people who understandably don t want to be stopped and harassed just because of their race that we re able to work together and come up with some good answers. reporter: chris, we talked to a woman who said she was upset that this shooting happened. she believes it changed the conversation. she wanted the protests to change the area and now everyone is talking about obviously these two officers being shot. eric holder had strong words calling the shooters or shooter punks. reporter: ryan thank you very much. some people say it s a distraction. some people say it is actually part of the problem. there are two very different schools of thought, as different as those two doj reports, one condemning the police department the other saying that officer darren wilson probably justified in what he did and that s why they re not prosecuting. let s have that debate the best way we can. we have missouri state senator, maria sha palchappelle-nadal. and jeff roorda. you ve had your conversation you had your relationship. yesterday it came a little bit to a head. i want to remind where we were yesterday so we can use that as a starting point and not arepetition. let s remember what happened. they shouldn t have been, they were a part of this just like you were. they were not. in fact they shouldn t be surprised. you re pouring kerosene on this fire. mr. roorda hold on. hold on. you ve been there aiding and abetting the ablg gi tators. senator. no for you to charge that that is one of the reasons you are not elected today, sir. and you know what and you deserve that statement, too. are you calling me a racist senator? yes, absolutely. senator i represent county police officers and one of my friends of 20 years was shot last night so don t tell me who i represent. absolutely do not. don t tell me who i represent. you re not a police officer today. the reason why you re not a police officer today is because you lied on a report and you deserve to be killed for that? you do not deserve to be killed for walking down the street. no he deserves to be he got killed because he deserves to be killed? all right. so we know the emotion is obvious. i know that you two know that this debate isn t about you as people, it s about the perspectives that you bring to it. let s have the conversation that needs to be had. senator, i ll start with you. this situation with these officers being shot many are saying this is a distraction. we don t want it to distract us from the main discussion we need to have but isn t it part of that discussion? isn t it part about the risk that is present for officers in this community? doesn t that have to be addressed as well? absolutely. police officers every single day put their lives on the line. in the incident that occurred a couple of days ago should not have happened and it is a distraction and it is a part of this the discussion but what we have to do is focus on the bigger picture here. how do we create a community where we are building trust consistently. one of the things that i am doing right now is working with my constituents in trying to figure out who acted in this very cowardly way because we have to build the trust in the community and build friendships among police departments throughout st. louis. mr. roorda i know it was personal for you because you knew one of the men who were injured here. right. i m sorry for you and for your friends, but you also have to look at what is driving a lot of the emotion here and that is that damning report from the doj that basically in the minds of many here justifies what they say they ve been saying for many years. what do you believe should be the ownership of that report by the law enforcement community of what seems to be a very clear culture of biased policing? well, first of all, nothing in that report or anywhere else justifies deadly violence aimed at police but senator chappelle-nadal s point, the protesters that have peaceful intentions in these crowds, their voices can t be heard over gunfire. so we need to figure out a way where we can have this local dialogue really this national dialogue about how we build trust between law enforcement and the communities they police and, you know the terrible tragedy that we saw here 36 hours ago doesn t move that forward. and yet the protests yesterday you seemed to feel that hey, these protests are part of the problem, that s why these officers got shot. you do understand that there s an absolute right to this and you need to have the protests you need to have the voices out there otherwise the anger s not going to find anything of a positive aim for the anger, then we know what happens. it winds up being expressed in negative ways? absolutely. there is an absolute right for the protesters to have their voice heard. my reluctance is these after-hour protests that are something very different from that that. that s when the violence is taking place. that s when not only the 1600 cops that i represent are put in harm s way and the peaceful protesters. the people in the crowd the other night had bullets whizzing over their heads as the officers were being shot. it s a dangerous, volatile environment and i think these after-hours protests really detrangt from the way forward more than they do contribute to it. reporter: well, a lot of a part of the way forward is going to be acceptance. the police have to accept what s in that doj report about them. you heard how jeff his immediate reaction was, well it doesn t justify violence. you have to deal with the culture of police as well. you don t hear a lot of people in the protests especially saying, hey, that darren wilson looks like he was justified according to the doj, we should acknowledge that as well as part of what the truth of the situation is. why not? well you know here s the fact. people have been injured not only for six months or a year but literally for decades now, and the truth is out. the department of justice has validated what people have been saying for a very long time but what i want to focus on right now while people are talking about protests and when you protest, the positive things that happened last night was there was a forum in my district. there are people who came together who are running for elected office in april. what this situation has brought about, people are now engaged in the process. no longer are we going to have city council sz that are a majority white in that i community that is a majority black community. while some people were out on the streets last night, some with good intentions what we have to focus on is how we are going to civically engage ourselves and our community and be civically responsible moving forward. and part of that is by going to town hall meetings and hearing from people what they have to say and what their visions are for the future. and so that is what i m focusing on. i want to maintain the right of people to protest peacefully at any time of day. the constitution does not say you can protest from 7:00 to 5:00 in the morning. do you understand that point, jeff? i do and you have to balance civil rights against public safety. that is law enforcement s responsibility 24/7. just to sort of give an optimistic point. you know, as i was leaving the protests last night a gentleman sort of marched over to me with a very aggressive posture and tone and, you know i immediately sort of joked with him and kind of put his defensive down then we had a very nice civil conversation for 20 minutes about his perspective as a young blackman living in that area and my perspective as a guy who represents cops and as a former cop. it was refreshing and the first civil conversation i could have with somebody out there. i started to leave and got in my car and i got out and handed the man my card and said let s talk some more. maybe that s a glimmer of optimism for the future. reporter: conversations have to be had. i want to re-ask each of you i asked because neither of you answered it. jeff:, when you look at jeff, when you look at the doj report that s something that has to be owned by whoever does the policing here that there was a culture of bias. are you willing to embrace that and say, look the damage is there, we have to deal with it now? their report is very damning. those e-mails are reprehensible, but let s credit the mayor for immediately taking disciplinary action as soon as he became a ir aware of those e-mails. the court profiteering is disturbing but it s a problem in black and white communities here in missouri. reporter: right. but it is a problem here in ferguson. disproportionately black. the report said it was at least in part biased in its motivation so it s something that has to be owned. similarly, senator, have you to own the part of the report from the doj, you can t pick and choose. they also said that darren wilson based on the witnesses, based on the evidence it s not just that they can t prosecute because of the standard being too high, that they say there was credibility to his account. isn t that something that has to be owned to have honest conversation? absolutely and that s why we are trying to change some of the laws that are in missouri right now. we are out of compliance with the u.s. supreme court when it comes to tennessee versus garner which properly defines what deadly force is. and missouri is totally out of its position with the u.s. supreme court. but more importantly, i think what we should be focusing on and what we should be taking ownership of on my side as we debate this we need to make sure that protesters understand the law. we need to make sure that they have a pathway that is peaceful so that we have outcomes that are productive and cree a it an environment where we can start building those bridges and trust. we do have a responsibility and for us not to be educated on what our civil rights are, our constitutional rights are is not going to be accepted. that s why i m calling on all protesters to know the law, know where we need to be and work with your legislators so that we can move forward in a productive manner. reporter: well hopefully what we saw an improvement in the conversation between you two today on these important issues will be reflected in the community overall. thanks to both of you for being on new day as always, alisyn. thanks chris. thanks chris. we ll get back to ferguson shortly. it turns out that neither president obama nor secret service director joseph clancey knew about the latest incident involving the secret service until days after it happened. two agents suspected of driving after drinking at a party, purportedly disrupting an active bomb investigation outside of the white house. one of the agents said to be the number two man on the president s personal protective detail the other a senior supervisor in the washington field office. a new unverified conversation from boko haram. isis militants are fighting iraqi forces to recapture tikrit. while boko haram has killed thousands to impose islamist rule military forces have driven them from dozens of towns. now an out of this world mission. 2, 1, zero and lift off of the atlas 5 with mms. the atlas 5 rocket blasted off last night from cape canaveral, florida. it s carrying satellites to study magnetic reconnection. that causes things like solar flares. it makes the sky turn different colors. you re so informed. i knew i d get your attention with magnetic reconnection. thank you for that. you re welcome. we ll have much more from chris. he is on the the ground in 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they ve heard about this deal, namely they want an oversight agency like the iaea going in to see what tehran is doing. they don t want it to sunset after ten years. what s the point of a deal if they re going to have a weapon ten years from now. you might disagree with their tactics of sending an open letter to iran, but can you tis dismiss the content? no they raise legitimate points. i don t think they should be the ones to advance them or they should be advancing them in their advise and consent role to the president, not writing a direct letter to the iranians. republicans say they are not at the table. the republicans shouldn t be at the table because from a foreign policy perspective i think we need to speak with one voice and that voice needs to be the administration and the state department. if the republicans are displeased with that approach hey, we re two years away from an election and that s when they ought to make changes. here s where i think this ought to come out. full transparency. if there is a sunset provision at least i would say it s better if they ve dialed back their iranian nuclear capability than the status quo which is that uranium enrichment continues. i d rather have them retrench? how likely is full transparency? can you trust them? this puts them back in the same position we seem to have been in. both sides are saying that. right. we heard khamenei say that. look i don t know we can trust. they changed the game. they changed the tactics. if the alternative is to launch a first strike against iran whether it s united states or the israelis, i d much rather pursue this to the nth degree and know we made this. we had uber negotiator david miller on. he s terrific. he s advised six secretaries of state. s he s no stranger to tough negotiations. he says this is one of the toughest he s seen because as you said all the different constituencies that they have to deal with back home. he gave it a 50-50 chance today. what do you think is going to happen? i yield to his judgment. he has far more expertise than i. to the point he makes about the ramifications of this it s truly a game of dominoes where there s a consequence to every single move. what s most interesting to me is these negotiations are playing themselves out at a time when you have iran taking on isis and to that extent has become i hate to use the word ally or partner, that probably makes it but is the enemy of my enemy really my friend in this case? i don t know. it s a confusing picture. you referenced it earlier about our domestic issues impeding potentially the deals overseas. also i m getting a little big here on fridays. i think it must be your presence here. it makes me think about the context of the 2016 elections, that cycle. if we re already having this kind of end run around the president, this kind of dissension divisiveness, what are we set for? i worry what this does for vladimir putin. they re politically wise. they assess what s going on in the united states. if they think they can play us against ourselves, michaela it s like no one wants to have a domestic squabble. you want to resolve your own domestic squabble. when an outsider comes, the appropriate response is you turn on the outsider. in this case we re turning on ourselves. michael smerconish great to have you on new day. check out smerconish saturdays. he s a busy fella. he is. you can hear him on weekdays on sirius xm at 9:00 a.m. he sleeps standing up honestly. there has been really riveting testimony in the boston bombing trial. the man the tsarnaev brothers car jacked. the shocking things he had to say about the split second decision he had to make. that s ahead. the whole bed is comfortable. it s the best thing we ever did for ourselves. it s helping to keep us young. 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i did it and i just killed a policeman in cambridge. prosecutors say the brothers had placed homemade explosion sifts in the suv s trunk and then drove mang to a bank where they used his atm card to withdraw $800 in cash. driving around mang testified tamerlin tsarnaev made small talk. where are you from? he replied, i m chinese. tam merlin s response i m muslim. muslims hate americans. just before midnight they stopped at the shell station, mang says to fill up the gas tank intending to drive to new york. at the gas station dzhokhar goes inside to buy snacks taking his time picking out chips, that s when mang decided to run. surveillance video shows tamerlin going to tell his brother, mang has escaped. he leaves the snacks and follows tamerlan. the suv had gps tracking helping the police close in on the tsarnaev brothers. tsarnaev s lawyers have barely cross examined any of the witnesses. all that video that you re seeing you would have expected certain questions to be raised like how can you be sure that it s actually the man walking across the m.i.t. campus? well his lawyers didn t raise those issues. they re really focused on getting through the trial portion to begin the guilt phase. michaela? deb, that video is spine tingling. we just can t get over the hispaniced expression and seeing him run around that store in the aftermath. thanks so much for the update. quick thinking shop keeper as well that helped out. to this now. car problems can do a whole lot more than put a large hole in your budget. a broken down vehicle can endanger your health job, possibly your home. one woman was driven to find a way to stop this domino effect. that s why she s cnn s first hero of 2015. meet kathy hyang. i was a social worker for 15 years. i kept seeing people struggling with making ends meet. one car repair can upset the entire apple cart. i just kept thinking why isn t somebody doing something about this? then one day it occurred to me oh dang i think that somebody might be me. i did not grow up working on cars so i ended up getting a degree in auto technology. i can smell it. does it get worse when you turn on the heat? 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right. and investigators really felt this was excessive, way beyond what other towns, many towns do that even here in the state of missouri where it s allowed. they have a certain percentage of your income for the department based on fines from traffic and other offenses, but nowhere near the degree that it was found to be the case here. reporter: yes, the e-mails are horrible right? yes, we see those in other police departments and other offices, frankly, but when you look at the findings of more arrests, more prosecutions if you re black than if you re white, and every single arrest for resisting arrest was a black person when you start to hear that, that moves beyond just percentage of population doesn t it? i think what we need to do we need to understand what the proper benchmark is. looking at just population figures doesn t tell us much. we know a few things from decades of research on the nature of the role that race plays in police interactions and that is that we have to be able to norm for the differentials in crime commission and also who is in the community as opposed to who lives in the community. it could be that there are reasons why these disproportionate numbers exist. it also could be worse because we don t know who is being stopped based upon who is in the community, who s driving through the community different from who lives in the community. we have to parse the numbers very carefully. it might not be as bad as it looks but it could be worse. we have to take a careful look at it. doj went out of the way to say part of the reason for this pattern of conduct was unlawful bias. that tells you what you need to know doesn t it? that s their opinion. the way that i would frame it is in a legal situation this is the prosecution s case. let s take a careful look and let s look at the numbers. what does the defense have to say? that s the way that i would frame it. the other thing is that tom mentioned about the use of police to raise revenue. that s what i think is a really highly problematic issue. that goes beyond ferguson to civil asset forfeiture. there are much broader issues we need to grapple with. reporter: it s even worse when they do it by targeting a specific community. it s a double bad. another issue, this investigation. there s a weird dynamic to figuring out who did the shooting of these cops. they want the answer to not come from the group of protesters because they think that will stain the protests. that has this one theory. we don t know if investigators are chasing it as much as the media. these shooters may have been as much as 125 yards away. they think it was a handgun. they found some casings that were handgun casings. in your experience tom and i have been talking about it let s get your fresh take. 125 yards at night, four maybe five rounds two hits on a police officer from that distance. how precise a shot does that have to be? doesn t have to be very precise in the sense that you had a bunch of police officers lined up so you ve got basically from zero to about six feet and then 100 feet across or whatever basically standing shoulder to shoulder. if the individual was targeting that particular officer and the other particular officer, hell of a shot, to hit two police officers, 50% hit ratio that distance people get lucky. lucky twice? they weren t even next to each other, tom. it wasn t just the phalynx to the phalynx? your witness accounts can put it in this area right here. to put it in better perspective, we have 300 million guns among a population of 320 million. we have people shooting. we have white supremist groups we have criminals, gun hobbyists. there are a lot of people that are real good shots and the police know that. they go up against that all the time. that s part of the justification of the mill tarization of the police that we heard so much about. they are frequently outgunned by people with better weapons and better training to use them. reporter: and what it creates here well it wasn t a protester. this fs a bad apple. why do you think that s so important? i think that what we need to do is wait and see what the evidence shows. and i think that what happens is it s a good example of a narrative getting ahead of the evidence. let s let the investigation move forward. let s see what the truth is. then we structure the narrative around the truth as opposed to trying to run to a narrative. reporter: so what if the shooters were among the protesters? does that mean the protesters were bad? you know you have disparate elements here. for my money it doesn t matter. instead of trying to make it a much broader someone says committing sociology. want to have this big explanation for why somebody did something. something as simple as we have a person that s a bad actor and they embed themselves with a group or go off by themselves, we don t know. reporter: people were running around the group was breaking up there was panic. it will be hard to know. the investigation is so key not just for bringing justice to those two officers who were seriously injured in that, they re saying they don t know if they ll work again even though they got discharged quickly. even if the shooters were in the crowd amongst the protesters give the police credit for not returning fire. reporter: sure. that took a lot of discipline to have two officers fired and not fire back. reporter: strong point. always a pleasure back to you michaela and alisyn. it s been great to have you on the ground to give us a perspective of the logistics there. safe travels back. ahead, he is known in the new test a. as the apostle who committed the ultimate betrayal of jesus. we re going to take a closer look at the last gospel of judas. it might actually having thinking otherwise. o get the lady of the house back on her feet. ohhhh. okay veggies you re cool. mayo, corn dogs you are so out of here! ahh. cause i m reworking the menu. keeping her healthy and you on your toes. the complete balanced nutrition of great tasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals antioxidants and 9 grams of protein. i see you cupcake. uh oh the #1 doctor recommended brand. ensure. nutrition in charge! progressive insurance here and i m a box who thrives on the unexpected. ha-ha! shall we dine? 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amtrak has been out there doing repairs. he says he has to be in philadelphia today. he has no plans to travel to new york city but if he were traveling to new york city he would be taking this train along with everybody else. they pull into the station here in a few minutes. they say they can make other arrangements trying to roll with it either driving to computes in newark new jersey everyone is feeling relieved today. we know extensive work has been done to repair the track. amtrak tells us 300 crews worked over the course of the weekend to make the repairs necessary, including activating those speed control measures that have been ordered. so commuters taking that first trip back to new york in just a few minutes. chris. all right. we will be tracking the timeliness and integrity of the system. what kind of safety measures are put in place? now, specific to train 180, fbi investigators just joined the ntsb and local authorities on the scene of the crash to examine this train s windshield. cnn erin mclaughlin is picking up that story. what do we know? reporter: good morning. chris. the mystery of amtrak 188 continues to deepen. today the fbi is expected to take a look at a circular marking on the left-hand side of the train s windshield as the ntsb continues to investigate the possibility the train was struck by some sort of projectile prior to the crash. but there are new doubts about information from the train s conductor. she had told investigators that prior to the crash, she thought she heard 32-year-old train engineer brandon bostian tell the radio dispatcher amtrak 188 has been struck. she says they evaluated all radio dispatches and there is nothing to suggest that. meanwhile, new information from the train s black box, investigators say the data shows bostian manually pushed the train throttle forward, which could have led to that deadly acceleration that caused the crash. the question remains why? alisyn. thank you so much for all that background. let s bring in mary schiavo, the department of transportation and cnn aviation analyst. good morning mary. good morning. mary can you explain this connection? if this train was struck by a projectile why would it accelerate twice the double limit? the only way to explain sit if the engineer was distracted by whatever struck the train, if it was very loud if he thought the wend shield was shattering and maybe dove or accidentally pulled it forward as he got out of the way. that s unfortunately a question that only he will be able to answer since it s not on the information from the black box, it could explain an engineer distraction and allowing the train to go so fast at such a deadly speed into the curve. so that theory is maybe he was so rattled by something striking the windshield. one theory is it was a bullet. maybe he was trying to get out of there quickly? exactly. people don t realize, it s utterly ridiculous this goes on. this kind of thing, throwing rocks at shooting at vandalizing train, trains and motor carriers this kind of thing of vandalism of transportation goes on a lot. it goes on all over the understand can. so you know presumably it would have been very startling to him. i have been on trains where other things have happened in the past. a friend of mine was on a train where a door came opened. that rattled the engineer. the engineer actually said it. so you never know what it could have been until the engineer recovered his memory which can happen. i have worked many cases where right after a crash, ptsd and they cause memory difficulty, they come back on occasion. that s interesting. how is the fbi going to figure things out? i have worked on cases where the shattering of windshields can be significant and the fbi can examine that particular pattern and the pattern of lines emanateing from the impact point and they can get an idea of the shape of the projectile the force with which it was coming. since it s kind of an uneven pattern, that impact is probably not a bullet. but their forensics lab is pretty good about analyzing those sorts of things and they will talk to the two other trains that happened. cluck one with an impact on the side not the front. which makes you think it was not a drop from an overpass. mary over the weekend, speed controls were added to this stretch of traps that has had two deadly accidents. if it was this easy why wasn t this done year ago? amtrak had an explanation in the press release or explanation to the media. they said they put it on one way on the train as opposed to positive train control. they put it on one way. they thought operationally it made sense one way but not the other because of the speed which one would be traveling over that particular track. but automatic train control the thing they said have now put on the track, it s very old technology. it s been around perhaps 40 years, 30 years, it s been on the japanese bullet train since the early 80s. it has a series of warnings and will tell the engineer if the train is in overspeed and some variations will stop the train if then the engineer does not react. where a positive train control uses computer systems and sensing on the tracks to see is there traffic on the tracks something going on on the track, what has to happen? what s a much more in-depth system. so is automatic train control, this technology on lots of portions of this highly traffic route? i d say most of it on the northeast corner and i should say many passenger rails. the government had long ago insisted there be speed controls and this older technology. so when the federal rail administration over the weekend ordered them to get something on there now, this was saibl an it s been available for many years. it is on most passenger rail line but not on the 48 lines. mary very quickly what is your latest thinking on what probably happened here? i this i the finding of the strike on the windshield would be a disturbing and distracted event and headed into this curve, the engineer we now know had to manually push that train into the faster speed heading into occurb the exact opposite of what you do. i am guessing that the strike the impact on the windshield distracted him and that s what occurred. he maybe dived to get out of the way and push the throttle forward and i m hoping the memory comes back. it s an important piece of what happened. that would be helpful. thank you so much. great to talk to you. well the fbi is looking at other transportation concerns they are investigating a possible new threat that could affect air travel. a computer expert says that on several occasions he hacked into computer systems aboard a commercial passenger plane an was able to control an aircraft eng engine during a fight. cnn is in washington with more. is there any reason for us to be skeptical of this report? we ll see, mikaela. good morning. they say modern plains have a huge vulnerability from hackers. they say there is a security hole in in-flight entertainment systems aboard three aircraft and one airbus modem. apparently he says hackers can control these aircraft. now, the fbi says it s investigating him for potential computer times before flight. this is according to a search warrant application filed in court. roberts said if february in march, these hackers have 20 times, at least once making a plane do a lateral move. no one verified whether roberts did any of this he s not been arrested. boeing says there with is no danger. the ifp system is what they say on board commercial airplanes are isolated from flight and navigation systems and roberts is says the fbi is all wrong. he says he tweeted over the weekend, over the last five years, my only interest has been to improve aircraft security given the current situation, i have been advised against saying much. chris. all right. we will stay on that. thank you very much. isis terrorists taking over a key city in ramadi. they vow the fight is far from over. we ll give you the reality on the ground first. we have nick peyton walsh live in beirut with the latest. what do we know? chris. 500 lives lost it seems in this final onslaught in isis. this is an absolutely vital city. it is the capital of anbar province that makes up a third of iraq s territory. it is predominantly sunni. what seems to have happened is isis kept their cards quit and launched this suicide bomber frenzy that got them into the center now iraqi security forces in these pictures show withdrew. we don t know quite how this long telegraph wasn t adequately fortified on their part and beinger, haufted or run out of am fix some reports say and had to withdraw but now there is a whole new concern. this is turning increasingly sectarian. many forethe iranian defense minister flying into baghdad. calling up shia militia to lead the fight back t. u.s. says anbar, ramadi is not key. they are very concerned at this stage. here s what john kerry had to say. it is possible to have the kind of attack we have seen in ramadi. but i am absolutely confident in the days ahead that will be reversed. a large numbers of dash were killed in the last few days and will be in the next days. because that seems to be the only thing they understand. of course the key issue is how do you turn that tide around? coles air path will do some of it. shia militia have a dodgy track record on the ground in terms of atrocities. many say isis very much on the march forward. they have a lot of abandoned iraqi arm our the security forces left in their wake not justton for anbar but also to baghdad for which they are increasingly close. thanks so much for that. also, a big gain to tell you about for the coalition fighting isis. we are learning more about that weekend raid in syria involving u.s. army delta force that killed a top commander and captured his wife cnn is live with more. what do we know about this? alisyn the administration is characterizing this kill as a serious blow to isis. the national security council calling him a senior isis leader someone who had a role in overseek isis oil and gas operations who might have information on isis hostage operations. she seems detained for right now. u.s. officials also say there was a lot of intelligence reams of data including a computer cap cured at the mission site that could have valuable information. how isis operates. how they communicate and how they are funded. but there are, of course still a lot of questions about this mission at the most basic, of course who abu saev s name is and was the risk worth the reward? they will receive briefings from the white house this week. breaking overnight, a u.s. marine was killed after a training exercise went horribly wrought. an osprey aircraft caught fire in oahu sunday. that crash entered 21 marines on board. some injured critically. the marine corps says the accident is under investigation. did you hear about this? a massive shootout in texas. at least nine people are dead between a rival biker gang at a restaurant in waco. we are learning new trouble is coming well before it happened. c in n correspondent nick valencia is live with the latest. sounds like a sons of anarchy episode there. good morning, chris. heavy police presence where the shootout happened less than 24 hours ago. as you mentioned, police knew there was going to be a meeting between motorcycle clubs here. they anticipated trouble, which is why they were in place when the shootout happened. they say there is a press conference going on off camera right now. the fight started inside the twin peaks restaurant escalated quickly and spilled out into the parking lot. reporter: these are very dangerous, hostile bioticer gangs that we are dealing with. reporter: erupt income broad daylight. close to 200 members of rival biker gangs broke out in a deadly fight. first, fists, clubs, chains and knives escalating into a gun battle. it was really really scary. we didn t know if somebody was going to come back. reporter: at a twin peaks restaurant as many as five criminal motorcycle gangs started fighting over a parking issue, according to police. can you see some of the groups names on the back of the jackets. the gang known to police for weeks, members of the swat team were already monitoring the scene when the brutal fight began. we were in marked cars. they knew we were here. it matters not to them. that tells you the kind of level of people we are dealing with. reporter: police also exchanging fire with the bikers. the parking lot filling fast with law enforcement officials to secure the scene. at least nine are dead and 20 more injured. some commerce and employees taking cover in the restaurant s freezer. there were a lot of people a. lot of incident people could have been injured today. police say they recovered more than 100 weapons at the scene. a frightening indication this may not be the end to the deadly rivalry. we have been getting reports bikers throughout the state are headed this way. reporter: law enforcement officials have established a perimeter around this area only allowing the media inside. this is still an active crime scene. alisyn. what an incredible story. nick thanks. yosemite national park authorities say legendary rock climber dean potter was one of two men who died after reportedly attempting a 3500 foot base jump in wing suits into your cement valley. potter and grand punch were reportedly missing after their jump on sunday. park officials say they tried to clear a gap into the cliffs. base jumping is illegal in yosemite. last year potter was here on new day, after this video of him jumping with his dog whisper went viral. we will show that you in a second. this is a dean told us about that jump. i have been climbing for the last 27 years and i always like to bring my dog and my best friend with me. so the idea of this came from not wanting to leave my dog in the house or car. i want to bring my best friend with me everywhere. well marvelous the crazy risk these guys take. the very real risk of losing your life, horrifying. it s sad. i know it s a part of the exhill racing. that s why people judge it. either you are you think it s dangerous. now he s gone. for a lot of these guys and women, this is what defines tear feeling of being alive. i know. i get it. that s a harder question. here s an easier question for you. what is going on in this war against isis who is winning? the terrorists just took over the city of ramadi. they used bulldozers and suicide bombers. we have military analysts that will give us answers on the state of play. and should the u.s. have invaded iraq in 2003? that question keeps tripping up republican president hopefuls first jeb bush now marco rubio. where exactly does the florida senator stand? we ll debate that. en up. i m reworking the menu. veggies you re cool. mayo, corn dogs. you are so out of here! ahh. the . a fierce assault. it s a key city only because terrorists really want it. does this mean the coalition is now losing the war, did the coalition just take out a key isis commander or not really? michael weiss, co-author of isis inside the army of terror. we have retired leiutenant general reese. gentleman, good to be with you this morning. we ll start with you. what do you think, colonel, if they take over ramadi does this mean they are winning in what was supposed tore their pulling back? chris, they have right now taken ramadi as we look at it from a military perspective. like secretary kerry said i believe with air power, the air power will corporate on and that is the deciding factor for the iraqis isays does not have the air power. we will continue to pummel. it will be a back and forth as picture like we saw in tikrit in the springtime. i know it would be a disservice to say what happened in ramadi? oh this looks like a different mosul. i get it. there are different intensitys on the ground. but on the outside, the colonel says this is a wake-up calm. it seems like the fighters the coalition fighters have gotten so many wake-up calls they should never go to sleep. put it this way. when we went to war, isis had control of two provincial capitals. now they have three. i don t see how the degrading puts isis in their face. ramadi bridged strategic and symbolic importance the occupation of iraq in 2006 it was the center of the locusts for a major ground swell of sunni support against al qaeda in iraq. a major recruisement at a class if factor targeted this year. so dismiss this as some sort of tactical setback or fear skirmish in a long road to the ultimate extra patience of isis. as the colonel said this is serious undertaking. as you said you can give all the help you want. you are not doing the battle on the ground. what is the rosie picture to be painted here? the rosie picture as you have seen the iraqis and leadership in anbar that, l, they are bringing up the piu or shia plsh that have fought very well up in tikrit helped take tikrit down. they got brought back down rearmed, refitted to help the shia sunni friction. for the month i was there, i did a quick in and out. it is a common enemy to the sunnis and shia. they are fighting together. are there some problems at times? absolutely. we have problems and our ground folks go a little bit crazy. i don t think we should be pushing that away. i think the pius will come out there. so the big division between you two is whether or not this is a short-term fix or longer-term fix, all right. fine. we ll see what happens on that. the other issue the coalition is saying we just killed a really bad guy, a top isis commander. now we have her wife. we will get them for this intelligence. do you buy that this is a big take? absolutely. this is a spider network. we have been doing this sense we started this thing. joint command, that s their job to take down the high value targets. now, granted, this guy may not have been on the radar screen. at kind of the mid-level and the strategic level, people know who this guy was. the beauty is because we don t have the home field advantage like we do in iraq we got it. when you have a chance to get these guy, you got to go after it. you are qualifying it there was a sting cast this guy is a money guy. i actually hear the components focus on the human trafficking one. he played a very prominent role i am told in some reporting by abc news and others have born out in the captivity of a hostage brutally killed several months ago. the importance is on that factor. mo so we refer to the cfo of isis. well the cfo of isis wasn t on the treasury or state department sanctions list. he s not one of the top five or top ten guys in the organization. they were also trying to justify taking him down saying we freed a slave. that s not usually how you value a high level target. they can say they were going after much higher level targets he thought would be in the same area of these guys. these guys fled or weren t there. so they took what they could get i think they were specifically targeting. i am skeptical how senior in the isis hierarchy this guy was. don t get caught up in the top five. i did it for years. the top five there is 20 to 25 below that in this chain of the web when you find a chance you got to get them. you pull them out. whether you want to capture them. few can t, kill them the treasure trophy of intelligence will be able to pull out with his wife. quite a confidence in the wife as a treasure trove. we saw this with the back party. the women they know what s going on. and we did this exclusively overnight in iraq is we would separate the women and sit down and talk to them. the children. feed them and just like they have? high value interrogation team. they will sit down and the human trafficking i think a lot will come out. to the outside, the uninitiated, you see the women there under valued devalued yet, is it true that often they know a lot more just by being present? look. isis has fe fail mail fighters. she could be instrumental and not just a bystander. we think of jihadi cells, we tend to put too much of a premium on structural orb charts the nature of the beast. this has to do with roll odecks pragmatism. people have networks and contacts like the colonel said a wife of a mid-or high level isis commander will know a lot of the guys that were aggregating or congregating around her husband and can lead to bigger scouts in the future. so this might inaugurate a future campaign where you have these teams going in snatching guys in both syria and iraq. there will be a ground component by u.s. forces. i think this is the beginning of something rather than the end. thank you very much. as always appreciate the perspective. am sin. was it a mistake to invade iraq in 2003? 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you may think the answer to that is simple. another mub republican who wants to be president made it simple. that man is marco rubio. he tried his best to best his friend jeb bush and fumbled the ugly question contest. how did he do that? your answer ahead. making a fist something we do to show resolve. to defend ourselves. to declare victory. so cvs health provides expert support and vital medicines. at our infusion centers or in patients homes. we help them fight the good fight. cvs health, because health is everything. just stay calm and move as quietly as possible. no sudden movements. google search: bodega beach house. with xfinity from comcast you can manage your account anytime, anywhere on any device. just sign into my account to pay bills manage service appointments and find answers to your questions. you can even check your connection status on your phone. now it s easier than ever to manage your account. get started at xfinity.com/myaccount was it a mistake to go to war with iraq? i understand it s not the same question. that s the question i m asking. it was not a mistake for the president to go into iraq. i m asking you. in hindsight. the world is not a better place because saddam hussein is not there. i don t understand the question you are asking. that was senator marco rubio struggling to answer it is a question that has dogged potential candidate jeb bush all last week why are they having such trouble answering it? republican consultant and cnn commentator host market hooverer here. market why are you smiling? what is going on here with your big dogs and the relatively simple seeming question? it is a simple question. but there are two different questions that have two different answers if you are marco rubio and jeb bush. would you have done the same thing with the jamie information that jeb bush and hillary clinton had? that wasn t the question. you are right. i think what s happened is there is some confusion to clarify which one. i don t think marco rubio is confused about the answer the way jeb bush was marco rubio said clearly, knowing what we know it was a mistake. if i were in his shoes in 2003 i would have made the same decision two different questions, two different answers. i think the confusion may have been motivated to fought upset different factions within the party. correct. otherwise, it doesn t make sense why they get caught up in it. i understand. it s the i m running the president of the united states answer. it s not about relitigating should w have done it? what lessons have you taken going forward? that s the key question. the conundrum the candidates are in they haven t fixed out a way to separate themselves because the invasion was something that united the republican party as a positive good even through the bush presidency. so they could never say yes to mistakes? that would mean repudiating the policies most of them supported in the past. that is tricky within the republican party. it just is? you are precisely wrong. they are doing just that. george w. bush said it was a mistake to go to the iraq war without weapons of mass zruvenlths i had bad information. you are seeing this in a painful drawn out way. the republicans are trying to coalesce around the wake of an incredibly unpopular and failed experience in iraq. does jeb have the old bush guys adviseing him on foreign policy? you can argue unfair standards for him. does he also have to be careful because his guys are those same guys? they re not. he does have 19 of the 20 you know of his poils policy advisers. the question is who is he answering to? he s not calling up 92-year-olds and 88-year-olds every moment to ask some questions on how to hand him these questions on a day-to-day basis. the problem is they united the foreign policy for a long time. it gets complicated if you say you know what that s failed policy. let s shift gears and ask another question that jeb bush says about gay marriage. it has a similar pattern. let s listen. do you believe there should be a constitutional right to same-sex marriage? because that s the argument in front of the supreme court? i don t. but i m not a lawyer and clearly this has been accelerated as a war pace. what s interesting is four years ago, barak obama and hillary clinton had the same view i just expressed to you. how did that answer that market? there is very challenging, 50% of republicans under the age of 50 are in favor of same sex marriage. more than 60% of americans are in favor of same sex marriage. zero percent of republican candidates. that s not true. carley fiorina says her job is to enforce the laws of the land. that s like saying are you in favor by the way. hold on. i feel edgy. the question is is he going to be for constitutional amendments to overturn the supreme court? will he say, we should take it back to the states? what is this does this position move him further to the right? by the way, will he work himself out of it? three times he had to change his positions on answers related to lbgt freedom. twice now he s suggested here s in the line with hillary clinton. he keeps saying that. that s not a good position. he keeps harkening back to the past this answer is on look we can t change this it s a virtue. market pointed out it leads him down a slippery slope of logic. does he back a constitutional thaemd his brother didn t if 2004 mostly in the campaign deeply regret or something of that nature like ted cruz when you have a supreme court decision coming down if june saying it s not constitutional that is a question that is an answer fraught with problems let alone being entirely out of step. just one point of clarification. the constitutional amendment that ted cruz scott walker it s not a primary between a man and a him who, it is simply to throw it back to the state. that is not what his brothers appointed in 2004. either way you wind up that the supreme court decides in favor of this equal protection right. you will violate federal law to make a change. they will have that problem. we will play that out over time. when is one of the men or women going to own? i will be that president. i will make sure our rail system isn t the best. no brainer. good to see you guys. you can hashtag us or post your comments. i will be sitting down with gop hopeful senator rand paul. i will ask him all of these tough questions. you can see him on new day. meanwhile, isis fighters are taking a key iraqi city. how does the fall of ramadi impact the global fight of isis going forward? we will put that question to a military expert next. ah. (boy) i m here . f ramadi. what does this mean for the fight against them? retired lt. col. james reese joins us again. he was again a u.s. delta force commander, knows the region very well. we will get to our big pap in a second. i want to talk to you about something we talk about in great detail here. tikrit fem, government forces taking back tikrit from isis. it was seen as this huge victory. the beginning of the end. pack up and go home. yet this happens, ramadi falls. are we losing ground? it s how it goes i spent the month of march with ben wedeman in tikrit. great victory for the iraqis et al. now ramadi this is how it happens, these are major cities. think about austin indianapolis d.c. you got to take these down. let s look at the map. this is the province the capital of the province ramadi. now important is it if we look at this area that this fell. if you look down here you can see the big red line runs to the northwest to the southeast. very key, that s where everything goes along. raka that s the headquarters of isis. that s where it comes from. that continues to be a place that we look at and bomb and go after. you talk about the next animation, you talk about the importance of ramadi with its proximity to fallujah. you talk about the airport there in baghdad how important that is. how close is that in real life in real scale? how easy would this be to overtake that airport? so i used to drive this all the time t. right-hand drive, curtains in it. did it all the time. it took about an hour to get to fallujah and an hour-and-a-half, two hours from downtown backed into ramadi. that s how close it is. think about that. okay. d.c. to baltimore on a busy day, it s nothing. okay. now, location of ramadi along the euphrates river. we will animate this. you can see we talk about the euphrates river rolls up to syria, which you mentioned raka is a defacto capital for isis. is this going to change the way the iraqi forces and u.s. coalition, u.s.-led coalition deals with isis in iraq when you look at that area that we re talking about? well, like we talked about before iraq is where they get their center of gravity from. they re pushening up supplies pushing up more people. right now because they own ramadi the capital, they have a good clunk of fallujah t. big piece right now which is critical is this whole refugee aspect that has fallen. you got a quarter million people. they re trying to bail out of ramadi going into fallujah bypass that with isis. they are caught in the middle. imagine this what if tomorrow morning you woke up and a quarter million of people were standing on the mall in d.c. fought just that isis is blending in with the refugees the locals it makes it much more difficult to sort of rat them out? it does. i am not a fan of doing this sunni vs. shia. i ve seen it in detail. both these people are fighting together for tear country if iraq. the problem is isis is smart. they blended in the with the refugees him they get in there. they re causing disruption and havoc. so it s making some of the people who are from backed look at teams refugees as not good people. skeptical, of course. we also know there have been this plan for the united states has been training its troops to be a part of this retakeing of mosul this attack scheduled next month. it makes you wonder where it was announced, the u.s. working along side the iraqis. do you think what happened with ramadi falling it will pull the focus away from most? a separate entity on to its own? it s a separate entity the iraqis are macing the call. they got to look at where they want to shift their main effort. right now, ramadi is only 60 miles from baghdad. mosul is like on the other side of the moon literally, when you look at it from a geographical area. from a threat perspective in backed ramadi is important. mosul is isolated. kurds are on top of it. it s isolated. ramadi quickly, is this another combination that the u.s.-led airstrikes are only effective if you got the really effective ground force that s giving you good intelligence is that a perfect example there. you can bomb or whack them all day. you got to have people on the ground to seize it and bring it back to people. thank you. we appreciate it. we are certainly following a whole lot of news. let s get to it. amtrak is row storing full service this morning. the fbi now examining the train s windshield. the strike on the windshield would be a very disturbing and distracting event. isis terrorists taking over the key city in ramadi. to see that city fall. a daring raid by american special ops in syria. they call this a serious proceed to isis. was it excessive force or a justified reaction? 137 shots fired by 13 police officers. it s really scary. close 20 to 200 members escalating into a fierce gun battle. bikers are headed this way. this is new day with chris comb and mikaela pereira. trains once again operating at full capacity on the busy northeast corridor six days after the derailment that kills eight people. the first training rolling out of new york city and philadelphia about an hour ago. we know a speed control system is in place at the site of the crash. also a reminder that there is still no positive train control as required by congress. that s the bicker issue of safety. there is news on train 188 specifically. the fbi is betting reports the train s windshield was hit by a projectile before the wreck. let s go to alexander field. she is live on that first amtrak train to leave philadelphia s 31st street station since the crash. everything all right? sure is. chris. we have passengers getting on as we have just stopped right now. we have been making the ride from philadelphia to new york. also this morning, trains left headed for philadelphia. this is the first run on this stretch since that deadly derailment. at the slow speed we were moving that bend in the track almost imperceptible for riders waiting to see it as we passed. amtrak told us they worked through the weekend, having 300 crews out there to make the repairs necessary, getting it up and running today. they have also activated the same control systems we mandated with communications to restore service. we spoke this morning, they are making alternate arrangements. they were greeted by pair nutter in philadelphia this morning. we are encouraging people no get out here back on board these trains. happy to hear it s smooth sailing there so far. thank you so much. we will check back in. it is still a mystery as to what caused an engineer to act sell rate to deadly speeds. fbi verdicts are on the scene trying to figure out if something hit the train first. erin mclaughlin is live with that part of the story. reporter: good morning. fbi forensics verdicts are expected to take a look at a circular marking on the left-hand side of the train s windshield as the ntsb continues prior to the crash. now there are new doubts as well about information from the train s assistant conductor. she had told investigators she thought she heard the 32-year-old train engineer brandon bostian they had been hit prior to the crash. the ntsb says they went through all transmission and found nothing to suggestion bostian had did that. meanwhile, new evidence emerged from the train s black box. investigators say the data shows he manually pushed the train s throttle forward, which could have caused the deadly acceleration t. question remains why, chris. all right. erin thank you very much for staying on that. congressman, thank you very much for joining us. to understand the safety issue, the infrastructure issue, our audience has to understand the problem withing a track overall as you see it. tell us. well unfortunately, this situation the unfortunate death highlights that amtrak is a third world rail operation and the united states is falling further behind and unfortunately. we have a soviet style management of amtrak. we are one of the few countries that doesn t have state supported rail opened to competition and they waited they continue to waste a lot of money. so they don t have much confidence from congress. so you are saying private ease it. we ll discuss that as well. but when it comes to management of amtrak the government owns it. when it comes to why there is no positive train control stretch of track and many others right now, they ll say because the fc hasn t done what they need to do with the frequencies and the technology as needed. that s government also. so shouldn t the buck stop with accountability that government and its agencies didn t get this done? well that s a part of the problem. big government whether fcc or amtrak doesn t do it. we also had policy in the past. actually, a few weeks before the crash for the first time republicans in congress separated the money between the northeast corridor and other huge money losing routes. so we actually put money dedicated for the first time since fine 71 when they created amtrak and also revenues instead of spending to under write huge losses some of those tickets actually are underwritten more than $300. in fact last year every ticket on amtrak was underwritten by the federal government $42. so it s not how much you spend. it s how much you spend and diverting money out of the revenues for the first time we put the money back into the northeast corridor so they had have the money. but you do need the manage. we should be winning high speed trains in that quarter. it s the only quarter we own and the federal government has an interest in. all the rest of amtrak s 20-plus models runs on private 48 rail. people don t understand that. well also amtrak will say, be i the way we are doing better than these 48 guys if terms of putting in positive train control and making improvements there are people worse than we r. that s frightening for people. that s true because they are getting huge amounts of public money but they re still fought doing the job. why don t you oversee it better? we do. you are overseeing it well we wouldn t be in the situation we are right now, congressman. again for four years the democrats control the whole thing. we had a shot at doing the reauthorization this year. you sa we took steps. i have been on them they lovrs over a billion dollars in the dozen years in food service. that s selling food to a captive audience. they have spent money on bonuses. these aren t my reports. these are inspector general reports. huge bonuses going to these executives that are getting the job done. so we re hammering them going after them. for the first time we are actually changing some of the law. it was 2008 after the metrolink crash, remember. right. that we put in positive train control. they had a bipartisan proposal. all the trains are supposed to have the lines by the end of this year. right now we hear amtrak and others are asking for an extension. very often when you award people for an efficiency you don t get more of an efficiency. you say you are hammering them. i would suggest maybe now you are hammering them. ntsb has been asking for it since 1990 they told us. it does seem to be an ineffectiveness of cracking down on this agency that everybody agrees is inefficient. why is it more done to manage them better? well again i think you got to change the whole system out. you can go around the world today and trains are going 150 miles on average. competition was opened up in the united kingdom ten years ago. right. they re taking routes like we have doubled the ridership. turned huge losses into a significant revenue for the taxpayer. italy, all of europe now has to have state supported routes competed. i just saw the italian train, which has been in operation for three years ferrari picked up the franchise. in england, you have richard branson, virgin rail operating. yes. lines. here we have a soviet style management. we have no competition and people continue to protect that in congress and it soon be. that s a great point you paid there. it s a good one to end on, representative. there was a the pushback on speaker boehner. when he was like oh this is a stupid question. don t talk to me about infrastructure. this train was going to fast. you know that s a simplistic analysis. you know that positive train control would have made a difference here. we should be honest about it and address the failing. don t say you get better. don t say it s a stupid question. again, if we have better management. if decisions have been made. there has been another system automated train control that could have been put in. that was a management decision. i have researched back to see but it s relevant. it s not a stupid qui. you went back to look at it. it s not a stupid question. it would have stopped this accident. well again, it still appears speed was the major factor and that is a serious issue. we need to investigate the rest of it. congressman, you know talk about simple questions. we have been joke ability republican presidential questions not getting the iraq question. this is a simple question. if you had ptc on that track, would train 188 have crashed? i don t think it would have. again you go to the whole system. mr. boehner and republicans have supported bringing in the private sector getting us into the 21st century in rail operations like they have all over the world. will is no reason we can t do it. we have have to be on on the of it. it s always a first step. congressman, we will stay on top of you in terms of changes made. thank you, sir. isis making advances in iraq. taking control of ramadi and sending iraqi troops into full retreat. cnn s coverage begins with nick peyton walsh. what do you know nick? reporter: alisyn this is a deeply troubling development. much else for the baghdad government tries to push isis out of the anbar province west of backed and for the american campaign there, 500 lives lost in the last 48 hours. isis swept into that city using bulldozers to sweep the fences out of the way. over a dozen suicide bombing at least. the coles, they re trying to slow that down with potentially 19 strikes in ramadi alone. isis are in control there. they seem to be trying to push further westward as well. reports of the iraqi military having put up a lengthy fight there. many will ask why this telegraph wasn t potentially boosted, better supplies iraqi soldiers there, pictures of them departing, even some more elite divisions. the u.s. has tried to say ramadi isn t vital. there are some concerns this is what john kerry had to say. it is possible to have the kinds of attack we have seen in ramadi. but i am absolutely confident in the days ahead that will be reversed. a large numbers of dash were killed in the last few days and will be in the next days. because that seems to be the only thing they understand. now that is the hardest task. we are take income an urban area from a group like isis who don t care much about casualty. that will fall it seems to a predominantly shia militia. they will be moving into this sunni city. that will share the divide across the middle east right now and iran s defense minister has just flown into baghdad. that sense of regional significance here boosted and questions to be asked, how did ramadi fall? iraq s army possibly fought resupplied hard enough. this has been something in the offing for months now. that s the big question now, mikaela. nick thank you so much. while isis was taking over ramadi they suffered a serious blow in syria. u.s. special ops killing a top commander. let s bring in cnn national correspondent with that. reporter: hi mikaela. the dministration is characterizing this as significant. the significance of this kill t. national security council says the man that they refer to as abu saev was a senior isis leader someone who had a role in overseeing the oil and gas operations. his wife, sayyaf they could have information on the hostage operation. she is now being detained and interrogated by the united states. a u.s. official says there was a lot of intelligence captured at this site. reams of data including computers, equipped with valuable information, how isis can communicate and how they raise their money. there are of course still a lot of questions about this was the risk of putting u.s. special forces oak in syria. was it worth the reward? the most basic critic is what abu sayyaf s name really is. the president made his first public appearance in burundi. instead, he revealed he had spoken to the presidents of nearby countries to discuss al shabab. listen to this story, then people dead in texas between rival biker gang members. cnn correspondent nick valencia is live in waco texas with the latest. what is the scene, nick? reporter: good morning, alisyn. still a heavy police presence an active crime scene in the last 30 minutes saying at least 150 people have been detained. they also say interestingly enough that there is an active and credible threat against law enforcement officers. police here say they re prepared for whatever happens next. these are very dangerous, hostile biker gangs that we are dealing with. erupting in broad daylight. close to 200 members of rival broker gangs broke out into a a deadly fight sunday first, fists, chains clubs and knives escalating into a fierce gun battle. it was really really scary. we didn t know if they were coming back. reporter: 100 miles south of waco texas. as many as five criminal motorcycle gangs started fighting over a parking issue you can see names on the back of their jackets. the gang known to police for weeks, members of the swat team were already monitoring the scene when the brutal fight began. we were in marked cars. they knew we were here. it mattered not to them. that tells you the level of what we were dealing with. reporter: the parking lot filling fast with law enforcement officials to secure the scene. then are now dead. 20 more injured. customers and employees taking cover in the restaurant s freezer. there are a lot of innocent people could have been injured today. police say they recovered more than 100 weapons at the scene a. frightening indication this may not be the end to the deadly rivalry. we have been getting reports that bikers from out of states are headed the way. ronlt police say the threat is not against the public but against them. even still, they ve decided to close off this strip mall for the time being. mikaela. you don t want to be anywhere near where that is hang. thank you for that update on such a bizarre story. you think a fancy new tesla would have no issues? 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hold on. first we have the organized a major campaign using car bombs, suicide bombs, with i they used very effectively through this campaign. i think you have a big question of what s going on with the iraqi military and contrast to last summer going through the fall. you have to wonder whether the iraqi military had the will to fight. i think long term the problem we face though is what will happen afterwards. you had the iraqi government talk about bring income shia militia and the sunni tribesmen in this province will ramadi is say, hey, wait a minute. in you bring in the human militia, i think this is a long-term problem, because of whether the government and the iraqi military has the will to fight and whether this becomes a sunni-shia battle. mike the numbers are staggering when you hear what happened over the weekend. 500 civilian person fell killed in ramadi. how precarious is baghdad today? i think baghdad is fine candidly. i think with the shia militias that they used to protect baghdad today, they will probably be okay. i m not necessarily worried about that. what i m worried about is how they re setting in in the territory of which they hold. they were clever baghdadi the leader of isis did something marching up to baghdad. he realized the sheer toll and stopped, which shows a good decision-maker in combat in a pretty tough environment. now they tried to solidify where they r. that s what i worry about. eventually could baghdad be in trouble? i think the longer this goes the longer they get to recruit and set in refinance train put new bodies in the fight, we could have a problem. so let s talk about a victory, against isis over the weekend. what s the significance of this leader abu sayyaf being killed? i think the white house has overplayed this. this is a step forward. i thought it was remarkable it went as smoothly as it did. this is one guy that has been around for years. i think the conversation isn t about who we took down it s about the intelligence take. that is one of the hard drives one of the cell phones the dvds. what you want to do quickly, you take in this information, the military the cia, fbi are very good at this take it in. who else you can locate who else you can raid as a result for example communications that are shown on hard drives and cell phones that you picked up in the raid. intake ought to be terrific. let s talk about the tactic. what is the significance of the u.s. delta force? it s not the first time. it was empty hole. it shows our special forces and the intelligence was accurate. that s important. they got to the right place with the right targets. they were able to engage and get out without casualties. that s a big deal. we shouldn t under estimate it or overestimate the true of the event, itself. the they don t have sell po following, grabbing all of this intelligence and turning it around to something actionable. that s when you lose the effectiveness of this particular raid. the other part is it shows we re having a difficult time getting broader sense of intelligence. if they needed to get this intelligence with i is really important, it tellles you, we are having a little difficulty with tactical intelligence across syria. it shows a great thing, a great capability. hopefully they will with tempo use this for actionable intelligence. at the same time it shows we had to take a serious step here to get the intelligence. do you think his wife will provide intelligence? i think she will know what was swirling around. for example, she may not know patterns of activity. who he was talking to. you are talking traditional cultures where women are segregated. i think the real take here is digital. what s on a phone and a hard drive. mike rogers thanks so much for being on new day. alisyn the crowded republican field may be about to get more crowded. who is about to join? you. we will join inside politics with a guest host lori bornlgger. dear stranger, when i booked this trip, my friends said i was crazy. why would i stay in someone else s house? but this morning a city i ve never been to felt like one i already knew. i just wanted to thank you for sharing your world with me. it felt like home. airbnb. belong anywhere. the keys to this home belong to mark and alissa anderson. they bought the place four months ago on what was arguably the scariest day of their lives. neither has any idea what the future holds for them. but they bought into a 30-year mortgage anyway. that was bold. they must really believe in themselves. buy in. quickenloans/home buy. refi. power. wish your skin could bounce back like it used to? new neutrogena hydro boost water gel. with hyaluronic acid it plumps skin cells with intense hydration and locks it in. for supple, hydrated skin. hydro boost. from neutrogena. amtrak is back on track this morning. this is the first to leave philadelphia s 30th street station and pass through the side of that deadly derailment. everything has gone fine this morning. that does not have the positive speed control required by congress. the question is will they act? they will be investigating the train s windshield hit by an object. iraqi troops in full retreat after they used armored bulldozers to storm the city iraqi officials sa i the fight there is far from over. right now, thousands of citizens are freeing ramadi. they are shipping shipments to iraq over the weekend. you had captain, dustin lucasowitz captain christopher nordgren. sergeant johnson, sergeant eric seaman of california. corporeal medina and lance corporeal jacob hub. two police servicemen were killed when that helicopter driven by the marines crashed last tuesday. meanwhile the death toll from those two massive earthquakes nearly 9,000 now. that is the deadliest disaster in nepal s history. two 19th century nuns have officially been declared saints. they are the first catholic saints. from 2000 palestinians gathered at the the vatican sunday to celebrate. the conupon theization comes days after the vatican announced it would sign it s first treaty. on the pope s side. a lot of politics back here. let s get inside it on new day with lori borger in known as the upgrade. oh. well john getting a well deserved rest i hope. here we are, we have a thought get to guys. ed owe chief of the walk post. guys the iraq war still haunting republican politics. last week it was jeb bush s return to get down to the call answer the question whether the iraq war was a mistake. had some trouble with that. over the weekend, it was marco rubio s turn. let me give you background back in march, he said it was not a mistake to go into iraq because it was better that saddam hussein was dead and last wednesday he said you know what i would not have been in favor of going into iraq. yesterday, chris wallace on fox news asked him about that flip-flopping. let s take a look at that. well it s not the same question. the question is what you know now. based on what we know now everyone agrees. was it a mistake to go to war with iraq? i m asking you. i understand. it s not the same question. but that s the question i m asking. was eight mistake? it was not a mistake for the president to go into iraq. at the time he was told. i m asking new hindsight t. world is a better place because saddam hussein wasn t there. i don t understand the question you are asking. knowing what we do. that s not what presidents thought. a president cannot make a decision on what someone may know in the future. was it a mistake? it was not a mistake to go into iraq based on the information he was provided as president. my head is exploding with that exchange. let me start with you, lisa why is it so hard for republicans to deal with the question of whether the war if iraq was a mistake? it turns out running for president is hard. i think this question totally expected. certainly not jeb bush. this is the war his brother is known for starting. it s become sort of a rorschack test for these candidates. when i watched that rubio clip i felt like i was watching a senate debate. key note interviews is not like debating in the senate. i think it s a test for whether candidates are ready for the intensity of the spotlight. polls show the republican party, itself is split over whether going into iraq was the right thing to do. so if you are running for the presidency in a republican primary, you got a fault line you got to walk right? in a sense he s answered both ways? there was such an aura he s energetic, dynamic. that interview proves marco rubio is a politician. didn t immigration also prove that? yes. this one this happened in the mist of the bush storm now this again on a fox camera has exposed somebody to the fact that this is a very difficult thing for republicans to talk about. that they get all tripped up about it. it has become the republican party s vietnam. something they are hesitant to take ownership of and really don t want to talk about it at all. that is not surprising right? they should have been prepped for this question. they shoved an answer particularly senator marco rubio who watched the past week what went on with jeb bush. republican versus gone more hawkish. let s talk about the republican field a little bit. so far we got 11 wannabes who gathered over the weekend to speak to republican voters and there are more coming the latest i am told john gaysic is likely to get in in a few weeks. our dana bash is reporting senator lindsey graham is expected to announce his candidacy on june 12k35er7b9 leaders want to avoid this kind of an array of candidates like they had last time because they re going to have these debate stages full of people not enough time to talk and they re not coalescing quickly? there are a lot of republicans who sat out 2012. they were worried romney seemed loo tick heir apparent so this time polling shows it is a wide opened field all it takes is one stumble or two stumbles for someone to be knocked out, why not take your shot? you know of course hillary clinton feels great. are they debating each other or talking about hillary? they want to focus on hillary. ultimately they will be debating each other. we are actually keeping time and enforceing it. i think that will force these guys to realize, if you can t get it done in ten minutes or left leave. get out of the way. here s the thing at least they re answering questions. jeb bush or marco rubio at least he was taking questions. hillary clinton is back on the cane trail. she has been doing a bunch of fundraisers. today she s in iowa. do you think she finally got to start taking some questions from the press? well of course i think she ought to. i don t think we will see that from her. what folks in her camp say her doing a press conference there is dozens an dozens of press there. it s a full-on thing. this is all about voters and every day americans. she has to answer some questions she is under a lot of pressure particularly on trade and this can t go on forever. she has to give substance events. all the answers she has given. most are it s just grit to be here. it has to go beyond that at some point soon? she has a hoard of reporters covering her. so far she s answered 13 questions and these issues like trade are hanging out there, bernie sanders came out over the weekend and told our own brian na keeler hillary s got to answer these kind of substantive questions particularly on issues where shes a agrees with her husband. martin o malley will enter the field. you know she has so is trying to show she is working with this. one way is to show she is answering questions it paints an unanswered number of questions. she will need to start doing that. once she has been to a splashy event to mark the official beginnings. i think after that we will see a change. you knew marco rubio is answering questions, unlike hillary. we are all answering questions here. at least we think hillary may start to answer questions once she get out there and does her big official announcement. we will have to see. only a few. i was worried you were going to ask me a question and i was going to say, i m just happy to be here. great to have you inside politics. alisyn will sit do you know with gop hopeful senator rand paul. you can see that interview tomorrow morning right here on new day. the city of cleveland is bracing for a verdict of a live shooting. we will have a live report when we come back. can you pick me up at 6:30? 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martin savage is live in atlanta. what itself the latest? good morning, chris. this trial has taken two.5 years to bring to a courtroom. it is being closely watched across northeast ohio and beyond. november 2012 when a couple in a car speeds away from an under cover cop. their engine backfires. it triggers a police radio report of shots fired. the race is on. the suit involves as many a 62 police cars at speeds of 100 miles per hour through the streets of cleveland. it ends in a hail of gunfire 137 shots fired by police officer, only one on trial charged with two counts of voluntary manslaughter manslaughter. he is shooting to kill. reporter: prosecutors say the former manner did what other cops didn t he reloaded and when the car police were chasing finally came to alet ha he is said to have jumped on his hood and fired 15 shots directly through the windshield. the prosecution believe those shots killed timothy russell and pary williams. he told investigators he and his partner were in danger believing the couple in the car were shooting saying quote, i have never been so afraid in my life. i thought my partner would be shot and we would be killed. he said at which point i drew my weapon and shot through the windshield at the suspects. reported radio traffic gives conflicting accounts at one point warning police about weapons, while other officers on the radio report seeing no weapons. neither victim in the car had a gun. the defense attorneys say the officer brillo had no way of knowing that saying he wasn t trying to be rambo. he was trying to survive. the case is now in the hand ought not a jury but a judge who will render a verdict and if found guilty michael brillo could face three to 11 years in prison for each of the two counts against him, chris. the judge is saying this may take some time right, parten? reporter: right. there is concern about the potential for a possible violent reaction. so much so law enforcement across the state of ohio has been alerted and notified to prepare also the city of cleveland has been reaching out to protest groups community leaders, faith-based organizations to try to head off angry reaction. of course it really depends on what the verdict may be. right. hopefully the reaction isn t playing into the deliberations. i m sure it s a lot for that judge to sort through. also what are you hearing why it is just brillo. it is an odd thing with all these officers involved. there is one guy. are there future civil actions or prosecutions to come? reporter: a couple things a. civil action has been settled. in fact both victims families will split $3 million. five other officers have been charged with dereliction of duty. that i are all expected to all be tried together later this summer. the max they could get is 90 days in jail if found guilty. thank you very much. we will stay on this. appreciate it. what do you think? 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he told them that he had managed to hack into aircraft while he s on board. i know this can still be breached. it s really scary. nine are now dead and nearly 20 more injured. these are very dangerous, hostile biker gangs. this is new day with chris cuomo. good morning, welcome to new day. we re talking about amtrak because the route is back open. they are going through that busy northeast corridor for the first time since last week s derailment that killed 8 people and injured 200 and raised big questions about how to make the rails more safe. the investigation continues, fbi experts will be on scene inspecting damage to the train s windshield. could that have been at play in this crash? coverage begins live at new york s penn station. reporter: good morning, it s quite a morning here at penn station because late last night amtrak tweeted out that this morning at 5:30 service would resume. the first train would go out and it did. they let us go down there when the first train was leaving so we saw not that many people on the train, but passengers said they were excited. it was very needed. i spoke to one man who says he has to go to washington, d.c. several times a week and spending $1,200 round trip to fly there last week. he was relieved a little scared but ready to go. the northeast corridor is the most traveled train area of the country country. over 750,000 passengers a day. amtrak s cost to the economy, 100 million. you can see how happy they were. the ceo of amtrak released a statement. he said the safety of our passengers and crew remains our number one priority. our infrastructure repairs have been made with the utmost care on infrastructure integrity, including complete compliance with federal railroad administration directorives. just a minute ago, the first train that came from philadelphia to penn station, new york passengers just unboarded a minute ago. that train was ten minutes late in leaving, 30 minutes late in arriving. so that may take everything down so it s a little late today b u the main thing is amtrak northeast corridor is up and running today. chris? late is better than unsafe that s for sure. to balance out what the ceo said, they don t have the positive train control in said and that s what congress main date dated. specifically 188, fbi experts are in philadelphia to examine damage to the windshield. they are testing the idea that an object may have hit the train just before it derailed. we have the latest on that. reporter: good morning, here the we have seen the first trains go by in a sign that life is returning to normal but the investigation continues and the mystery has deepened. today the fbi is taking a look at a fist-sized circular mark on the windshield. the ntsb continues to investigate that the possibility that a projectile struck 188 prior to the crash. there are new doubts about information from the train s assistant conductor. e she had told investigators that prior to the crash she thought she heard the 32-year-old engineer tell them some sort of object struck the train but they reviewed all the radio transmissions from the night and found nothing to suggest that. new information from the train s black box. evidence suggests that he manually pushed the throttle forward manually, that could have caused the deadly acceleration. let s discuss all of this with miles o brian, cnn s transportation analyst. david susy is also with us. david, i want to talk about this notion of a projectile hitting the train s windshield. there were reports that there were other trains in the area that were hit by some sort of projectile. is that even possible as a cause of this crash given what you know? i m not seeing a correlation between the two. the only possibility is that it was a distraction at the wrong time. he had time to think about this. it would have been time to think. how about you? one reason to lead to another? it feels like a red herring, they are steering us away from it. if it did startle him in some way, perhaps there s a link. accidents offer a series of seemingly desperate events that lead to the accident. maybe this is part of it. we know the federal railroad administration has ordered amtrak to take additional steps. we have a full still of some of the things they are asking for. install automatic train control, there was that on the southbound route. analyze all curves for risk and increase maximum speed signage for engineers. david, if you wouldn t mind giving us a difference between the automatic train control and positive train control? is that something you can do? it might be a sticking point for some people. positive train control includes an element which is the communication based signaling. the systems have been in place since the 1800s and the type of signals and what they mean. communication based signaling would have direct input into the automatic train control. they group those together as positive train control. that s what they are talking about when they talk about automated train control. so why hasn t that been there? is this money? is it congress dragging their feet? why isn t it on this corridor? we know how heavily trafficked it is. the amtrak is on schedule according to their director is on schedule to meet the requirements of congress by the end of this year. now there s also in congress they are also pushing a bill right now that would allow congress to extend that. i doubt anybody is going to vote for that at this point. aside from the techal aspect, you say that a human factor could be changed inside the cab. you believe a second engineer might be an easy fix? why not have a second set of eyes in the cab there? i have often wondered why there s a single individual there. there are safeguards in the system. they have a dead man switch in case somebody lost consciousness, but having said that it s better to have a second crew member. we don t have cabooses on trains anymore. this is about money. it always is. it always is about money. that money would be spend to maybe look at some other technology. what about cameras? we have cameras in the cockpits in airplanes. . why not a camera in the cab? why not a voice recorder? we have learned so much about the aviation technologies. but what about on these trains and locomotives? couldn t the engineers use devices to help them keep the train safe? absolutely remember all those things you just mentioned are accident investigation tools. the cameras in the cabin, all the things we just talked about. what it would help as miles said i agree 100% there should be another set of eyes in front because that s the way they are going to control this type of event from mistakes happening. i want to pivot now to the world of aviation. we know that you have been very part of our team coverage of missing mh-370 14 months since that jet liner disappeared. we understand the search zone they are expecting to finish that by this month. they found everything but the plane plane. they found a 19th century ship wreck there. what else are you hearing about how long the search could go? they are talking about doubling the size of the zone, so this could rock on for quite some time u. certainly another season lies ahead, it s getting to be bad weather down there. it s a reminder that this technology the satellite technology that they are able to sense the direction of the aircraft it s a communication tool. the fact we even got to the southern ocean was really an active engineering prow wes. but it s very inaccurate and that s why this process is taking a long time. final thought for you, 14 months since it went missing, the hope is we have learned some things that changes have been made. both of you have made your own calls for advanced technology to be used in these jet liners to make them more advanced. we have the technological capability it s just not in use. have we made any progress? we have right now there s great progress move inging forward for airplane tracking. it s never fast enough. it couldn t be fast enough. it needs to be there now. the world aviation forum and bodies of work are pushing these things forward to get them implemented. the airlines are work towards it as well. that s an fastic news because often times we don t learn from our lessons. when you have that many lives lost you hope there s something learned for sure. thank you, gentlemen. you talk about technology in planes here s another disturbing question. can passenger planes be hacked and controlled remotely? the fbi is investigating a computer expert s claims that he hacked into the system and from there took control of the jet s engine and made the plane fly sideways for a moment. this has a lot of people upset this morning. that s right, chris. chris roberts is the name of a research ir who says modern planes have a huge vulnerability from hackers. there s a security hole in in-flight entertainment systems. he says hackers can take control of these aircraft and now the fbi says it s investigates him for computer crimes. this is according to a search warrant filed in court. roberts told the fbi in february and march he s hacked into planes while in flight up to 20 times including once making a plane do a lateral move. no one has verified whether he actually did any of this and he s not been arrested. boeing says there s no danger quote, in-flight entertainment systems on commercial airlines are isolated from flight and navigation systems. roberts himself now says that the fbi has it all wrong. over the weekend he tweeted, quote, over the last five years my only interest has been to improve aircraft security given the current situation i ve been advised against saying much. the investigation by the fbi is continuing. i ll take it here evan thank you for that. we ll watch that story. overseas thousands of civilians are fleeing the iraqi city of ramadi now that it s been overrun by isis. officials in the u.s. and iraq are vowing that the fight for the city is not over. cnn s complete coverage begins with nick paton walsh. reporter: the key question is how can that fight back really begin? the iraqi prime minister called on shia militia, not known for their particularly gleaming human rights record in the battlefield to play into that fight because it s iraqi security forces who were routed over the weekend by that substantial advance by isis. 13 suicide bombers bulldozers use to clear away the defenses. a million people used to live there. 8,000 fleeing now, 500 dead in the fighting of just this weekend. it s a vital tragic hold. and it covers a third of iraq s easter s easter s easter iraq s territory. does they recognize how complex it will be to take that? it is possible to have the kind of attack we have seen in ramadi but i m absolutely confident in the day ace head that will be reversed. large numbers were killed in the last few days and will be in the next days because that seems to be the only thing they understand. reporter: but it is a substantial damage to the narrative that baghdad government was trying to push forward. they are on the back here losing significantly. it was their most elite special forces that appeared to leave and the question will now be were they inadequately resupplied? did they flee and how did baghdad not see this coming? isis has been quiet in the past month. it s clear they had this up their sleeve. the u.s. and allies in baghdad reaching out to iran have to try to clean up this mess. back to you. very clear that nothing will happen quickly, that s for sure, thank you. while ramadi was falling a top isis commander was dying. the secret raid reportedly netting valuable intelligence on isis in the process. let s bring in our cnn national correspondent. what do we know about the raid and this intelligence? the administration is characterizing this kill as a significant blow to isis and the national security council. and his wife was captured at the mission site. she s now being detained and interrogated. senior administration officials say she might have some information on isis s hostage operation operations. now u.s. officials say there was a lot of intelligence reams of data that was also recovered at the site including a computer which could have valuable information, they say, on how isis operates and earns its money. but there are still a lot of questions still unanswered about this mission. win at the most basic is what abu sayyaf s name is and the question of weighing the risk here in this mission versus the reward, what intelligence will learn and that s the exact question that some lawmakers are already starting to e question on capitol hill. thank you for that. also break. ing overnight, a marine has been killed in hawaii after a training exercise went terribly wrong. the marine corps says an aircraft made a hard landing and caught fire during a training exercise in hawaii on sunday. 22 marines were on board at the time. one was killed the rest were injured. injuries range from minor to critical critical. the marine corps says the accident is now under investigation. nine bikers killed over the weekend in wayco, texas, during a shootout between rival gangs. 200 people are in jail this morning facing charges. nick virginia lensalencia is live with the latest. what do you know? reporter: good morning, chris, just in the last few minutes, police announced that 192 people will be arrested as well as of yesterday s shootout in waco texas. all will be charged with engaging in organized crime, some will face capital murder charges. meanwhile police say there are ongoing credible threats against their life. they say they are prepared for whatever happens next. these are very dangerous, hostile biker gangs. reporter: erupting in proud daylight a deadly fight broke out on sunday. first clubs and knives escalating into a fierce gun battle. it was really really scary. we didn t know if somebody was going to come back. reporter: 100 miles south of dallas in waco texas, as many as five criminal gangs started fighting over a park issue. you can see some of the groups names on the back of their jackets. the meetup known for weeks, members of the s.w.a.t. were monitoring the scene when the fight began. we were in marked cars, they knew we were here. it mattered not to them. that tells you the kind of level of people we re dealing with. reporter: police exchanging fire with the bikers. the parking lot filling fast with law enforcement officials to secure the scene. nine are now dead and nearly 20 more injured. some customers and employees taking cover in the restaurant s freezer. there are a lot of people, a lot of innocent people could have been injured today. reporter: police recovered more than 100 weapons at the scene. a frightening indication that this may not be the end to the deadly rivalry. we have been getting reports throughout the day that bikers from out the state are headed this way. reporter: police say the threat is not against the public but against the police officers here protecting this area, even still out of an abundance of caution twin peaks will be closed for the next seven days. the strip mall also closed to the public. a dangerous situation, thank you for letting us know the latest. a freight train colliding with a bus in atlanta. half the bus was sitting on the tracks seconds before the crash. you can see passengers get up and head for the door as they barely just make it off in time leaving the bus driver when it crashed. he was knocked o out of his seat but was able to get up and walk away. really frightening stuff. six people were taken to the hospital for their injuries. last week it was a truck and a train. now it s this one. it s really upset ingting. now we have video of these things. you have to respect he got everybody out and the driver is okay as well. when we come back, isis is now controlling a key city of ramadi. it fell to terrorists after they carried out mass killings. what does this mean? what is going on in the war against isis? are we winning, losing what s the coalition s fate, ahead. if you haven t heard about the latest sale at hotels.com, then you haven t see n this commercial. book now and save during the memorial day sale at hotels.com. i ve smoked a lot and quit a lot but ended up nowhere. now i use this. the nicoderm cq patch, with unique extended release technology helps prevent the urge to smoke all day. i want this time to be my last time. that s why i choose nicoderm cq. when you re not confident your company s data is secure the possibility of a breach can quickly become the only thing you think about. that s where at&t can help. we monitor network traffic worldwide, so we can see things others can t. mitigating risks across your business. leaving you free to focus on what matters most. big day? ah, the usual. moved some new cars. hauled a bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked. made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. what s up for the next shift? 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(laugh) nice. doing the big things that move an economy. see you tomorrow, mac. see you tomorrow, sam. just another day at norfolk southern. forward, however you want to look at it it was a good day for isis in iraq. the key city of ramadi falling to their fighters. u.s. officials are assessing a troef of intelligence they say after a special forces raid killed a key isis commander in syria. we have counterterrorism analyst na veed ross and major general james marks. general, give us some perspective. isis took this big city. the coalition is losing fair assessment? no it doesn t mean the coalition is losing. that means the coalition has essentially acknowledged that they are not in the proper position not aligned appropriately to resist isis in ramadi. to isis ramadi is important only because it allows them some freedom of movement. but bear in mind isis now has to control it find some form of governance. how long they are able to do that who knows. what s significant is when isis has the momentum they choose where and when to exert themselves. that s what iraq has to do with coalition support is to break the back of isis momentum. that s what we re talking about here. every time they take land it s a test to show whether they can govern it. sometimes it s a mixed blessing. on the other side, you have secretary of state john kerry who said every country in the region is against them. they are all fighting against them. if they are still gaining ground isn t that a problem? it absolutely is. the fall of ramadi is a major setback. it doesn t mean the coalition is losing. this is a big setback because ramadi was the birthplace of the wakening movement in 2006. this was the sunni tribal movement that helped to push back isis east predecessor in iraq and a lot of countries are still looking to sunni tribal engagement as a major factor to use to push back isis. if so, we should watch for the kind of slaughters that are occurring on the ground right now because it s really dangerous. it s going to have tremendous strategic implications. what was going on in syria at the same time this was happening in iraq was that the u.s. intelligence forces say they took down a big target. are they right? is it a big target and this troef of intelligence? it is a big target. it s not just abu sayyaf that we re focused on. there were four important leaders there, when means they were in some sort of meeting. one was a deputy war minister. the kind of information you re going to get from abu sayyaf includes who is smuggling out the black market and who they are doing business with. if the u.s. follows this up and really punishes e those individuals, it could either do significant damage to isis s ability to sell oil or could also raise the cost for isis of doing this such that they aren t able to get the same kind of money they are used to. follow the money and often you wind up getting where you want to be. general, play on the irony that it will be a woman, the wife here that isis is so intent on degrading and demeaning their position but the wife may wind up being the key to the intel. tell us about that. i think she probably will be. the fact that abu sayyaf is gone is probably good news but what the special operators were able to take out is significant intelligence that s going to lead to what revenue channels are that allows isis to fund the activities that are ongoing right now. what we hope has happened as a result of that is there s now a new target list of potential targets where operators can go after these various locations that have been having revenue dealings with isis. if we can cut that off, we have limited isis s ability to gain momentum. it keeps those lines of operation, the united states military operates onlines of operations and financial is one of those. if we can degrade that that s a really good solid step that s a foundation for everything they try to do. what the wife can provide could be instrumental as well. that s why the intel community is excited about this. something else about intel. the patriot act expiring in parts. the hot button issue is section 215, which deals with surveillance that captures american communications. are you worried about the pendulum swinging too far the other way in favor of restricting privacy and the ability to gather intelligence or you think you ll be okay any way? it s a very hard set of issues. there s intelligence value to capturing mass communications. there are tremendous privacy implications. this is something we as a country haven t worked out. it s not easy to do. the pendulum is going to swing in one direction and another before we work out what security and privacy and the increased pervasiveness of technology. an intimate meaning in the 21st century. how do you sell it from the american people? we hear the threat is worse now. it s harder online. we need more tools, not less tools. how do you sell it to the american people who do not want big brother to dominate american life? that truly is the challenge. our security is paramount. that s why we structured a government to begin with. that s why our founders said we have to protect these priegtrights and sustain our ability to provide for the freedoms that we can enjoy. but the issue really is there will be more tools, as you described, there will never be fewer tools. it s a matter of maintaining this ungoverned common is what we call the internet. there are essentially no rules that exist in there plp there are rules that exist in every other common but not in the internet. yet we have incredible freedoms we re always going to enjoy those freedoms but there must be an acknowledgment there will be a shutting down of some of that access as our vulnerabilities increase. it won t be lost on our audience that the privacy, not one found specifically in the constitution but is held dear by the american population. general, thank you very much. jeb bush talking same-sex marriage the potential republican candidate leaving no room for interpretation. will his views help or hurt his chances of winning the white house? 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we keep hearing we re behind the bad guys too often, especially online. what are the options? we ll test them, you decide, ahead. big day? ah, the usual. moved some new cars. hauled a bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked. made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. what s up for the next shift? ah, nothing much. just keeping the lights on. (laugh) nice. doing the big things that move an economy. see you tomorrow, mac. see you tomorrow, sam. just another day at norfolk southern. jeb bush attacked for being inde why do you say that away? i think jeb bush has very strong social values. i think he has very strong religious values. he s a converted catholic. as a catholic he s talking as a catholic. marriage is a sacrament. i m a catholic too, but a bad one. now the question of constitutional right, let me just say jeb and i disagree on the gay marriage issue. one of the things that i like and appreciate about jeb bush is that we can disagree. we have had many discussions and conversations about this issue throughout the years and, you know he s willing to listen. he s got his very strong held believes but you can disagree. in america we can disagree on important issues. i agree with that but he s said before there should be respect for the good people on both sides of the issues. that s a very different tone than what he was coming out with. could that be because of who he was talking to? he was at a very conservative christian group saying those words to them. was he pandering to the audience or is that really where he stands on the issue? you know are they inconsistent those two statements to say we should be supporters of traditional marriage and saying we need to respect both sides of the issue? why is it mutually exclusive to be a stall worth supporters of traditional marriage which i am and to also be in favor of same-sex marriage what he s not, but i am. i think sometimes we make these statements out to be too black and white. support of traditional marriage has become code for no same-sex marriage. and the problem goes away if legally if the court declares there s a right, this goes away because you have to follow the law if you want to if it becomes the supreme law of the land after the supreme court. u be he has another problem. i grew up with a catholic politician raising me. his religion is not the rule for all in america. the constitution is our national rule. how is he going to separate that? if he says i m a catholic but he s not only going to lead catholics. he s going to have to figure out how to please the plurlty. i think everybody has to figure that out. how many catholic politicians, and you know some very well have had to figure out how to separate state and religion. it s actually how we govern in this country. we have a separation between church and state. and we go to the question god knows i barely made it through law school but is there a right, a constitutional right to not only gay marriage straight marriage in the constitution. there s an equal protection right, and that s what the supreme court is going to find and i think this issue is going to be moot by the time 2016 comes around. we re going to have other issues. we re going to have a legitimate question on religious liberty. we re going to have the issue of traditional marriage and being supportive of that as making a stronger american family and what that means particularly in the inner cities, but the question on same-sex marriage might be moot by next month. one question that we re still looking at, we watched last week and it was kind of a cringe-worthy week for jeb bush in terms of dealing with the iraq question. well it was marco rubio s turn let s take a look to see how he answered that. you got asked the same question and said it made sense. it was not the same question. it was whether it was a mistake. it s not a mistake. because the president was presented with intelligence that said iraq had weapons of mass destruction. it was governed by a man who committed atrocities in the past. but was it a mistake to go to war with iraq? it was not a mistake given what the president knew at the time. she said was it a mistake. that s not the same question. why is it so hard for presidential hopefuls to answer that question? because i think it brings up a bunch of different issues and feelings. is it like having the sex talk with your teen, you don t want to have to talk about it you re awkward, you re scared where it s going to lead but every parent is waiting for the inevitability. by the way, whenever the democrat hopefuls start answering it given she was the only one who voted you know what her answer is going to be. my guess is she s going to say they lied to us about the intelligence. i wanted to support my chain of command. knowing what we know now, which is that this intel didn t work we didn t get what we wanted to would you do the same thing? everybody would say no except jeb because he has to worry about the family. they are being asked different questions, which is mine. they have to learn to navigate when different questions are asked. would it be right with what you know now? 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by carefully negotiating this with the nsa, which is exactly what we did this weekend in the baltimore sun the last chairman of the house intelligence committee and ranking member wrote an op-ed endorsing the usa freedom act. it was supported in the house. the chairman and ranking member voted for it. the obama administration has carefully been involved in this as well. so this is not just a throw out the data collection and don t do anything about it. this is stop the government from metadata collection. any kind of metadata. and then protect american civil liberties, but have in place a new mechanism whereby the nsa can get the same information and once the court issues the order it can stay in place for 180 days. so new phone numbers coming in from the court said they could get information would be continuing on in realtime. it will be effective and it will protect american civil liberty liberties. you can have a high level of both. let s play out the two levels of opposition you re taking on. senator mcconnell is saying this is the time to reauthorize the sections of the patriot act because the threat is greater and you guys are playing politics at the wrong time. your response? first of all, the second court of appeals ruled two weeks ago that the current program violates the law. and we believe we re going to see other circuit courts that have also had cases brought similarly. this has got to be changed. secondly we re not playing politics at all. we re protecting americans rights under their constitution and that is very important. it s also important to have the national security protections desired. senators who are in any doubt, i think a majority of the senate already supports this bill those who may be in doubt should take a close look at the actual language of the bill. one of them is another republican named rand paul. he s threatening another filibuster because he says this doesn t come close to protecting privacy the way it should. no way they need the tools. you re not going far enough in that direction. your response? well the response is very simple. there are measures in this bill that protect our civil liberties. and they do it the way we have always done it. when law enforcement or anyone else wants to conduct an investigation, get information, they go to court and get an order upon the showing of appropriate evidence that they are entitled to that order. that s what the foreign intelligence surveillance act provides for the fisa court and we restore that. it was taken away when the administration several years ago started this data collection program and we simply restore the proper use of the law. what is is your percentage chance of making a deal on this at this stage? 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martha vineyard. what s the time table you re hearing from the white house? reporter: the president says this is not a mission that will be over in weeks, signaling no quickened to a mission he was reluctant to approve in the first place. before leaving washington, mr. obama spoke with leaders of the uk, france and germany. he says the most urgent thing right now is to protect the consulate in erbil and get the tens of thousands of are yrefug off the mountain creating a corridor for them. in the meantime, the iraqis need to form an inclusive government. the most important time table that i m focused on right now is the iraqi government getting formed an and finalized. because in the absence of an iraqi government, it is very hard to get a unified effort by iraqis again s against isil. we can conduct air strikes but there s not going to being an american military solution to this problem. reporter: mr. obama said iraq made a start by choosing a kurdish president and a sunni speaker of parliament. now the country needs a prime minister and that suggests that should not mean another term for malaki. wendall, just because it s summer and congress is out doesn t mean it does not politics involve nd this. how are the republicans responding to this poliforeign policy move by the president? reporter: you re right. they blame president obama for enabling the problem by not leaving u.s. troops in iraq, though he says the iraqi people didn t want them and nuri al malaki wouldn t sign a agreement for a continued military presentation in iraq. but mr. president obama said it s iraq government s responsibility. it means it s not an operation. it s just a pin prick. it s just a sideshow. it s just a deflection from the normal course of things. you give something an operation. you provide a commander in the field. you connect with allies, in this case the kurds. then you get on with it. we haven t done that. reporter: mr. obama says he doesn t want to simply prop up malaki s government and enable his bias against the sunnis and kurds. wendall goller, thanks. leland, as we ve been reporting, tens of thousands of christians and other minorities are trapped by isis in iraq. one group of krochristians here home pushing for the country to do more the dominique is joining us from los angeles with more. hey, dominick. hey there. these christians belong to the chaldean catholic community. the chaldean church goes back to the early times of christianity, merged with the catholic church between the 16th and 18th century a.d. here in the united states there are about 200,000 of them. they re calling on president obama to help out those chaldeans caught by isis in northern iraq. they have other concerns that there could be genocide specifically against the christians. there has been a long this tri-of persecution of christians. hundreds are killed by the islamic state at the moment and the chaldeans here are calling for more u.s. support. listen. we have an obligation. we are a country that believes in religious freedom. this is our core belief as america. we have to act on it, and i was very upset because we were not doing anything. hopefully now we are acting. will start moving because it s unbelievable. well, the acts are obviously the air strikes on those isis positions northern iraq but also an aid drop that brought food and water to a lot of the chaldeans and other religious minorities on a mountainside close to erbil where people have been starving and dying of thirst. you can see on the screen just precisely how 0 rugged and tough it is. those are the isis militants making their way to the kurdish capital erbil. they are actual areally trying to convert chaldeans and the yazidis to islam, or they face death. president obama, who sent in the air strikes primarily to protect u.s. personnel in the region, says the purpose is actually twofold. listen. we will protect our american citizens in iraq, whether they re diplomats, civilians or military, even as our attention is focused on preventing an act of genocide and helping the men and women and children on the mountain. countless ira driven or fled from their homes, including many christians. not just christians but the yazidis who i mentioned earlier. yazidis are an interesting religion. they combine christianity with islam and other spirituality. they have been targeted for the past 12 years or so, particularly after the 2003 invasion, u.s. troops actually in the mazonth mazel month ma protecting them. back to you. dominick, thank you so much. with an even deeper look into the persecution of christians in iraq, father jonathan morris will join us later on 0 in the show. a catholic nun is one of the latest victims of the ebola virus. she was from the congo, part of the same order as spanish military, priest and nun evacuating spain earlier this week. nearly 1,000 peop$1,000 people f that disease in west africa, but now there is good news we re hearing from one of 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thaventhal is with u gaza. reporter: the palestinians are paying a heavy price for not agreeing to extend the cease-fire with at least seven more dead today. once the rockets started firing from gaza toward israel, roughly 100 of them since yesterday morning, the israeli defense forces resumed their aggressive targeting with air strikes of hamas sites on the ground. 58 places hit since midnight here on the gauze strip, each one shaking the ground, building after building reduced to rubble. one of the targets was a mosque in a refugee camp in central gaza, a three-story building completely destroyed at 3:30 a.m., 15 minutes before the first morning when hundreds of people would have been praying inside. instead, three deaths confirmed there, two of them hamas fighters. rescue workers searching for more in the wreckage. no question the mosque was controlled by hamas, its green flags flying on top of the pile of rubble today. the idf again reporting that some of the victims were members of the hamas military wing. this renewal of hostilities has ended peace talks israel says. it says it will not negotiate under fire. we ve had dozens of rockets fall on israel. they continue targeting our people. they continue targeting our civilians. and under those conditions, there is no basis for discussion. reporter: the palestinians say even during the cease-fire the israelis with weren t budging on key points during the peace negotiations, including building, air and sea ports and lifting the blockade and easing restrictions at the borders. leland, it appears peace is still very far out of reach. always an elusive thing to find in the middle east. rick leventhal there in gaza city. a major foreign policy challenge for president obama, what he s saying about the new u.s. military campaign in iraq. and what his critics have to say about the plan. plus, a dramatic rescue going down in texas after a standoff between a s.w.a.t. team and a gunman who kidnapped a toddler. and trouble 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have destroyed weapons held by the terror group. this as u.s. forces continue air dropping humanitarian aid. the president says this operation could take months, but he s facing criticism from those who think his reaction is insufficient and too late. joining me now, fox news political analyst angela mcglowan and leslie marshall, radio talk show host and fox news contributor. good to see you both. i think i m going to go with you first on this one, leslie. now that we re getting information across the board, we re hearing this that isis was more advanced and early intelligence indicated. do you think the targeted air strikes are too little too late or more appropriately timed, leslie? no. i think they re actually very appropriately timed. first of all, although on the one hand we constantly think here in the united states and in the international community that the u.s. is superman, we put on a cape or mighty mouse here we come to save the day. but the reality is, when we look at just air involvement, although these drone attacks are very significant, they ve been very successful and they will continue to be, a, this is not the united states, it is iraq, a sovereign nation. b, we just had this week compliance from the prime minister of iraq with regard to air use by kurds. c, we can t do this alone. i mean, we need help from the turks, other allies, and eventually president is going to and probably working on now getting saudi arabia involved, the united nations, other arab nations. this is not something we can go alone. the goal is and has to be that the iraqis take care of this on their own. angela, go ahead and jump in. too much, too little, too late. we re playing catch-up. we are the leader of the free world. i agree we shouldn t go it alone. but we always take the lead, leslie, and other people follow. the foo fact we ve been absence for so long, the terrorists have taken advantage of that. 15 months ago president obama said the war on terror is over. quick note, isis didn t get the home m memo. the president ran on 0 that, but the war on terror is clearly not over. now 0 it s time for us to stand firm. if i were the president, i d take a page out of bush s doctrine because we don t know what the president s doctrine is. and what page is that? bush was proactive and aggressive, and we knew where he stood. he did not have any ambiguity when it came to terrorists and how we dealt with threats and terrorists. with this president, the administration even said this morning we re still going to study it? we don t need to study it. we know what s happening and we know how to fix it. so let s fix it. all right, listen, i m going to move on. the president of course as you know assured the american people that american troops were not going to get dragged into another fight, another war there because there s no american military solution, he says, to this larger crisis there. so leslie, back to you now. do you think the president can be absolute on this, or do you fear mission creep? well, i always have those fears. i think every american does. seriously, just when you say the name iraq, you know, we definitely have extremely high emotions and not just necessarily left and right/democrat and republican with regard to 0 that. there s a level of apprehension by the american people, certainly the president has to look into that. and the best interest of our nation. but when we talk about what our level of involvement will be, i think the president can be and has to be resolute. if we look historically at the united states military involvement in the middle east and whether it s even diplomatic involvement, we don t have an easy solution. we re looking at, again, terrains that are difficult, cultures and languages that we don t fully understand, the dialects in those regions. angela, let me give you a specific question. i know you want to jump in. angela, you know the president spoke to the public. i want to ask you specifically, do you think president obama needs to lay out a more specific strategy to fellow politicians there in d.c. in terms of how to handle this crisis, this current crisis in iraq? i mean, i don t think he should be totally public with the strategy. but inside the beltway, yes, meet with politicians so the politicians can go back home to let americans know, we have it solved, we have it hand elled. let s trust the commander in chief. right now there s so much ambiguity. when you have ambiguity, people come to 0 their own conclusions. as for boots on the ground, the people in iraq said, we don t need boots on the ground. we have enough people on the ground. we need supplies. we have all the weapons. they re antiquated. we need supplies in iraq. we don t need people. so i think we know what needs to happen. yes, the president needs to develop a strategy but not go public with it. fair enough. angela and leslie, i ve got to leave it there. talk to you both later. thanks. thanks. thank you. he was certainly a symbol of the ronald reagan presidency and the gun control lobby in america. james brady has died years after a debilitating gunshot wound. but will his death lead to new charges now decades later? plus, religious leaders calling the violence in northern iraq genocide. and they are looking to the united states to help. but what can be done about it? we ll go in depth coming up. they re absolutely anti-islam. they are the enemies of islam. they are destroying and damaging the image of islam. avo: waves don t care what age you are. take them on the way you always have. live healthy and take one a day men s 50+. a complete multivitamin with 7 antioxidants to support cell health. age? who cares. could help your business didavoid hours of delaynd test caused by slow internet from the phone company? that s enough time to record a memo. idea for sales giveaway. return a call. sign a contract. pick a tie. take a break with mr. duck. practice up for the business trip. fly to 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year 2014, after all investment of treasure and above all of life and limb of our soldiers going back to the dark ages here? absolutely. there s silence in the international community. for week, on fox and some other places, thank god, we are talking about this. i know christians contacted me speaking out about it certainly more than ever before, but all the weeks later, there s a genocide happening. there s a religious cleansing in the year 2014. in iraq, where we were so involved in for so long. that we have destabilized eventually, not that it was not certainly investment going in. it s interesting that as you talk about how this is going. there s an international outcry and focus we re seeing, and so often you hear from religious leaders peace, working together, and everything else. for the first time, the pope francis is taking a dog leg to the right, and says we need protection from the international community. this is a very unusual development and a significant one. it is. i obviously follow this closely. today, pope francis sent out a tweet inviting the international community to protect the christians in iraq. now, protect? what s that mean? called for international humanitarian aid, thank god we re going it, but how do you protect against a terrorist actively trying to kill you? negotiations don t really work. they don t work. so is he calling, pope francis calling for air strikes? no. he s saying is we have a responsibility to protect them, and it s up to politicians to figure out what is the minimal force necessary to protect against innocent life, and unfortunately, sometimes, it is violence. i m interested in the larger context of religious leaders who are getting involved in this. you re here in new york, and with people of many faiths, are you hearing a coming together this is a point where the world needs to make a stand? unfortunately, there s not a lot of religious leaders internationally that have an international voice with huge amounts of followers. that s why, thank god, there is a pope, certainly many other religious leaders, but they have a smaller jurisdiction. i think that there is based on the natural law, what the human heart says, nobody speaks in the name of god and kill and innocent. every religion folks use the name of god. that s not religion. anyone can say they ll do their own thing using the name of god. that happened over the centuries. oftentimes with horrible consequences. we have to speak out. for sure. thank you, father john, and thank you for the thoughts. all right father and leeland. technology that keeps a parent s worst nightmare from coming true. we ll tell you all about it. great rates for great rides. geico motorcycle, see how much you could save. been all fun and games, here at the harrison household. but one dark, stormy evening. she needed a good meal and a good family. so we gave her purina cat chow complete. it s great because it has the four cornerstones of nutrition. everything a cat 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good afternoon. thanks for joining us. i m leland vittert, and welcome to the news headquarters. thank you for joining us. this news comes as u.s. military forces continue with air strikes against the terror group and humanitarian aid is delivered to thousands of helpless refugees. we are joined live from d.c. with more on the escalating crisis. doug? reporter: today, we learned the humanitarian air drops for the refugees continue as did air strikes. the pentagon released video of both saying there were three rounds of vikes targeting con y convo convoys, forces, artillery, and mortar positions. they were performed from hornets flying off the george hw carrier, and before the departure, the president was asked directly if he expects the unnamed operation to continue months or years. this was the reply. i don t think we re going to solve this problem in weeks, if that s what you mean. i think this is beginning to take some time. yeah, the iraqi security forces in order to mount an offensive and be able to operate effectively with the support of populations in sunni areas. that comment might quiet some critics on the right who were skeptical the president would not go far enough. in fact, after the first wave of strikes, the after the first strike announced, mccain of arizona told the daily beast that that strike was, quote, a pinprick, meaningless, and worse than nothing. it s not going to silence the left who fear the more military involvement in iraq imposed on a war-weary public. he said there were miscalculations of the strength of isis forces that threaten not only iraq, but jordan, lebanon, and perhaps beyond. there s no doubt that they re advanced, the movement over the last several months has been more rapid than the intelligence estimates and i think the expectations of policymakers both in and out of iraq. indeed, that threat goes beyond the middle east. dozens of the forces hold european and american passports. isis already planned attacks in europe and the u.s. all right. thanks, doug. after speaking out about the crisis in iraq, president obama fly to martha s vineyard for a two-week summer vacation. marine 1 touched down on the island. this is out of air force one, and president obama, the first lady, and their daughter departed to the vacation home where they will be staying this august. president obama is breaking up the vacation with a two day return to washington midway through the trip. there is new hope for the family of two americans treated for the ebola virus. writing a message from the hospital room he s getting stronger every day. and aide worker nancy is said to show improvement. leah live from the new york city news room with the update. well, he is relieved and happy that she s doing better and getting the care needed in atlanta. dr. kent brantley, going into the hospital a week ago, says he s getting the best possible treatment. in a statement he wrote from the isolation room, the doctor says the family moved to liberia to serve god in a hospital there, not to fight ebola, but cases came in. treating them, quote, i held the hands of countless individuals as the disease took the lives from them. i witnessed horror firsthand and i remember every face and name. well, the current outbreak is the largest and longest recorded for the disease. nearly a thousand people in west africa died since march. ebola has a death rate of 50%. yesterday, the world health organization declared an international public health emergency, only the third time this has happened, but they have not called for bans on international travel or trade. the director fft center for disease control went on the record last night to say the best way to protect americans is the challenging task of stopping this at the source in africa. cross border movements, the unprecedented nature of ebola in this part of the world as well as in urban areas makes is challenging, so we re sending teams of laboratory experts, disease detectives, people who can manage data and communications experts to help get the message out. well, he said the organization won t put people in harm s way, though, stressing people are only contagious when they have symptoms, eight to ten days after expoture sure. meanti meantime, a nun in liberia died today from the virus. back to you. that s too bad. thank you. there is speculation that new charges could be filed in the death of the former reagan press secretary james brady after ruling the cause of death to be a gunshot wound from more than 30 years ago. elizabeth pran picks up the story from washington. he could have lived longer, the 73-year-old died monday, but the former press secretary s death has been ruled a homicide. he was injured in an assassination attempt more than 30 years ago defieing odds in the medical community. he, in many ways, rewrote the medical books on neurologic recovery because at the time jim was shot, we could expect him to recover for a year and work hard for him to recover, and usually parties at a year have pretty much maxed out, and he proved that to be wrong. after surviving, brady was a symbol of gun control, lobbied for handgun, and background checks bill is named after him. he impacted the way things are done at the white house today. now prosecutors may attempt to bring charges against john, the man who shot brady and others in 1981. he was tried and found not guilty by reason of insanity. a spokesperson for the u.s. attorney s office in washington says the office is reviewing the recent homicide ruling, but wouldn t comment. exper perts say it s unlikely new challenges will be brought. you have somebody in theory charged with a murder, one, happened 30 years ago, not unusual, but two, the person was already charged, and we found not guilty of reason of insanity. like you heard, prosecutors need to circumvent a federal law, that charges expire after a time period and double jeopardy because he s already been tried in court. thank you. the legal panel weighs in on whether the man who shot him back in 1981 will be able to be retried. well, the people in hawaii are cleaning up after tropical storm iselle, mostly downed trees, although some homes saw roof damage, by there is no rest for the storm weary, nope, because julio is headed for the chain. we are live in the fox extreme weather center with details on that. we are watching what was iselle moving across the northern and western part of the island chain bringing several inches of rain. the good news is julio, we re expecting to move well north, but we ll see rainfall out of this across the big island, and then, of course, the rem innocents of what was iselle could bring several inches of rain. we re not out of the woods yet, but in terms of another land falling tropical storm, this one is going to miss it, which is great news. this is hurricane julio, 100 miles per hour sustained winds, and there s the islands there. north of it, blustery conditions, surf will be high, stay out of the water, and there s the track. good news for the area, they didn t want a second hit from a tropical system. now, across the u.s., showers and thunderstorms over the southeast, the gulf coast, as well as the mid atlantic region and potential for severe weather today later on across portions of kansas and nebraska, hail, damaging winds, isolated tornados throughout the afternoon and evening. we don t have watches or warnings, but we ll keep you posted throughout the late afternoon in the evening, and we re watching the threat for wildfire danger over the northwest and northern california. we ve had record drought here as well as the potential for more dry thunderstorms in the forecast. that moisture evaporates before it hits the ground left with dry thunderstorms that spark more wildfires. temperatures are warm in the area today and tomorrow, so that wildfire danger exists through the weekend, and your current temperatures in the u.s., warm over the south, feels like summer time, a really nice day across the northeast, gorgeous forecast. we should be doing this newscast outdoors. back do you. you re on to something. we have to do that later. thank you. okay. a landmark court ruling that may change the way the ncaa does business. a judge s rules that college football and basketball players can sell the rights to their names and images. this strikes down regulations that preventings students from getting anything other than scholarships, but the judge ruled there could be a cap on how much money students get and they can t receive any of the money until after they leave school. the ncaa says they are going to appeal this ruling. see what happens. who gets their way. a u.s. air strike hit targets of isis in iraq, and many are now wondering how long the u.s. might be involved and what the real military challenges are. coming up, general bob scales weighs in. also, the brand new tech device to keep track of your children. we ll tell you all about 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headlines. egyptian court cracking down on the muslim brotherhood desolving the political party ordering assets liquidatied. that comes after a year the president was overthrown by the militariment the family of a nurse who died in a car crash near atlanta will have a day in court against general motors after a judge deny a motion to dismiss the wrongful death suit. the family alleges a faulty ignition switch caused the fatal crash and gm fraudulently concealed evidence in a previous case. vw america is recalling more than 15 150,000 suvs with a problem with the fuel pump that could occur stalling. it affects vehicles from 2009 to 2014, no accidents or injuries have been reported. and now back to the top story, the president said this morning that the operations in iraq will last months, not weeks. he also called the series of u.s. air strikes a success but highlighted it takes more than the u.s. military to solve the latest crisis. we can assist and our military, obviously, can play an extraordinarily important role in bolstering efforts of a iraqi partner as they make the right steps to keep their country together. we can t do it for them. and with his take on how long u.s. might be in iraq again and what the real military challenges are, major general bob scales, fox news military analyst. i want to start with this. is the president right? were the air strikes a success? no, not really. what s needed here is the air campaign, not a pinprick. they dried vehicles, a humvee, and that s important, and one was shooting into the outskirts of irbil, showing how close they are to the heartland. in terms of the good start in the air campaign, no. there s a degree of irony here. the weapons you just mentioned, a gun and ours. and a humvee armored provided by the united states. check. to the iraqi military, stolen by isis. do the kurds have the capabilities? no. they are a light infantry. they have ak-47s, many left over from the first gulf war. they are old weapons and out of ammuniti ammunition. they want to fight and they they they can win. this is not a fair fight. isis is mechanized. military, antitank guns, mortars, and we re in a situation where the terrorists are better armed thank the good guys? you can t make it up. what we need to do is we need to send ammunitions now. we have to establish a bridge from germany and send weapons that can destroy we built for the iraqis that now isis has. if you listen to the president, he talks about strengthening the iraqi military, and the united states continues to send help to the iraqi military, but when you hear about the iraqi military taking on isis, most of the time, it seems they run away. yeah. is there a difference in the discipline levels and training that the kurds and iraqi military are different forces. oh, gosh, yes. the kurds know how to fight. they have been at it they fought hussein. they have good leadership. they have will. they are reasonably well-trained, better than the iraqis, but we give weapons to the iraqis who will not fight, and they will not give that stuff to the kurds who will fight. i mean, what we need to do is forget about the sensitivities of the government, go to the kurds, establish a military relationship with them, integrate our battles such that our fire power reinforces their maneuver because it is only what pushes back isis from north eastern iraq. from your sense of watching this develop in terms of the policy level and tactical sense, is it correct that the u.s. military has a lot more ability now than is let to use, that president obama is holding back the reigns on the generals? oh, my gosh, yes. remember in 1973, richard nixon established an 18-hour land bridge to israel that completely reloaded the army during the yom kippur war. we ve been at this three and a half weeks, and we ve sent two cargo planes? no. this is not a campaign. this is not a winning strategy. to win, we have to arm the people who will fight for us, otherwise someday we re going to have to do the fighting. so it s a lot simpler to do this now than later? you can pay me now or later. they will fight for us. they said so. they are sending desperate calls to washington, begging the administration to send the weapons, send us the weapons, and we ll defeat the guys. it s not happened. we ll see what happens over the next few day, in terms if they take your advice. maybe they are watching, never know. thank you, general. good to see you in the studio with us. a gps tracker for kids giving parents a new way to keep tabs on their children. fox correspondent has more from denver. how many kids are we looking for? five. five different kids. the daughter and one son of the guys who developed kids sport gps, new way to track your kids. okay, so according to this, shay is right there. right there. sporting the bracelet with a gps system registered to the app. her location, right there on her parent s phone. they narrow it to the exact street, exact location 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reporter: the punishing wave of air strikes continues to be the. we have word of two more palestinians killed when jets fired on the car, believed to have been mill tapts. that s an unfirmed. this morning, an attack took out a mosque in the refugee camp to the south. two of the three confirm dead ideas the mosque were militants according to the defense forces. while there, workers searched for another victim as hundreds of locals look on and hamas flags fly among the rebel. 58 sites hit across midnight, thousands this month leaving more than 1900 dead, some 9,000 wounded, and hundreds of thousands homeless. these attacks are retribution of rockets fired by militants, but palestinian leaders defend the decision to send rockets to israel friday morning. that one side does not shoot anything and the other side keeps the planes over gaza, they have planes over gaza, all over, and benjamin netanyahu said nothing will stop us if we find them. the planes were all over gaza. they were not shooting. they were going to shoot if they found somebody. that s how this war started. reporter: a stanford educated cardiologist says that the blockade must be lifted, borders open, and gaza be free. he says palestinians will not give up. oh, boy. all right, rick, thank you very much. leland? temperatures of thousands of people taken to the streets in london to protest fighting in the gaza strips. marching past the u.s. embassy in high park, waving signs, chapters, free palestine. that comes after negotiations fell through on extenning the thee-day cease-fire of israel and hamas. the situation in iraq follows a string of crisis occurring on the world stage recently like the pro-russian separatists rising up in ukraine, missile exchanges between the militants in gaza, and the murder of a high ranking u.s. officer in an alleged insider attack in afghanistan. let s take a look at u.s.involv with steven yates, former national security affairs deputy to vice president dick cheney and distinguished fellow at the hamilton foundation. hi. great to be with you. glad to have you. what we re going to do here is use the grading system of a, b, c, d, or f, and i want to ask you, start with iraqi. what grade do you give president obama on iraq? i guess i have to give a very low gried, a d or f, becausically, we have seemingly walked away with some very predictable consequences, and now some of those are drawing us back in, and we don t seem to have any clear sense what the president defines as the mission. he defines tactical objectives on occasion what they do, but we have yet now another open ended commitment with more forces moving into iraq and no indication of how they ll come out or what might provoke more to come even still. i think that it s just there s no vision, no leadership, no mission. americans are understandably hesitant about those engagements. even know the iraqi government would not sign off on a document to protect remaining military, american military in iraq, you still say more should have been done? i do. i m not convinced that we really made a strenuous case because i think the political adviser around the president were emphasizing the attractiveness of the full withdraw for other purposes. there s no question. the country was tired of war, but i think some of the challenges were known and conflict in syria should have made it more cautious in terms of the withdrawal pace. talking now about russia and ewe crepe, how the president is handling that, particularly putin as aggression. what s the grade? i have to go there still with c and d, not a very generous grader on these things. i could be convinced of going lower because we completely ignored a major international agreement that was meant to denuclearize the ukraine and protect ukraine east easte s t integrity. there s issues with iran and asia and elsewhere, and i just don t see this erosion of support in a new europe as it was once called going in the right direction. putin seems animated and maybe he ll run out of steam, do what he plans to do. we don t know or have a plan. okay. let s go to gaza. how do you grade that situation? well, i have to give that a failing grade too. i d rather be more charitable, but this is an instance with a treaty ally attacked by a terrorist organization. at the very minimum, we should be forthright making distinctions between right and wrong. in terms of who brought it on and what we are dealing with here. it s a complicated situation, undoubtedly circumstances that we re uncomfortable with, but we have alliances for a reason in trying to navigate the world, and we can t be equivocal where we stand. we can, though, make judgments about how we support and what we do in terms of meaningful intervention or keeping the hands off, but have 5 clear sense of what side we stand on. let s go to afghanistan now where herald green is believed to have lost his life at the hands of an afghan soldier. that s a tragic situation, of course. it s one where hopefully the afghans themselves move in the direction of a coalition government to help unify the country, have expertise at the top, handle the challenges that they were going to face. i still say the administration has been somewhat slow to come to the table to sort this out especially given the fact that was characterized as the good war. we had a problem in afrghanista of training elsewhere. we have some modest control on that, but i don t have high confidence that s sustained. we re going to wrap up here, and if you write a summary on the president s foreign policy report card, what would it say? 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let s bring in the legal panel for the discussion, trial attorneys misty and kirsten. is this double jeopardy to try a guy 33 years later? this is absolutely double jeopardy, no case, it fails from the get-go. there s no shot. the conduct at issue has been decided by the court, tried. it s done. he was acquitted on the lesser charge of assault with the intent to kill, and, therefore, he cannot be retried on the exact same fax, nothing has change the. is it possible to get around this in some way, you think? i actually disagree. i don t think that it s double jeopardy. if there s a number of u.s. supreme court cases that looked at circumstances like this and said it depends how they are charged. if there are different elements involved in the offenses, it does not violate double jeopardy, and number of states looked at circumstances where there was an attemptive murder, subsequent death years later, and then a homicide charge. how do you all of the sudden prove this? think about it. tragic in every sense of the word, but can you say 33 years later the reason a 73 -year-old man dies is because of being shot 33 years before? this is going to be a huge issue. if the prosecution could get past the double jeopardy issue, they have to prove that but for this incident, this occurrence, the chooting, he would not have died. they have to show a connection that beyond a reasonable doubt that his death was caused by that event. that s a huge hurdle. yeah. what how does that play out into the ability of the prosecute to bring this case? they have to be having huge consultations on specifically that and also the insanity piece, which we can talk a little more about, but the causati causation, the medical examiner supposedly said no one saw the reports but said it was a homicide linked to the events of 33 years ago. there has to be proof beyond a reasonable doubt that there were not other intervening circumstances over three decades that could have contributed. that s a lot of records to go through. speaking of the mental health portion of this at least, found not guilty by reason of insanity. it s not that he s insane at the time of trial. it s that defense rests on being insane at the time you committed the crime. how does that change all the sudden? go back and prove he was sane? i don t think that can t change. there was a ruling by the court. he was found to be insane. we re looking at his mental state at the time of trial. in order for anything to change at the time of trial or the shooting? shooting, excuse me, yes. look at the mental state of the time of the incident. is it possible to reverse that lieuing all the sudden to have new testimony, witnesses, and experts to go, well, maybe they got it wrong back then. well, i think you the government could potentially put on new evidence and experts, but all the prior evidence is still coming in. the reality is that previously, it was proven by the fact finder that he was insane at the time of the offense. competency occurs at the time of the trial, insanity at the time of the defense. same circumstances of the assassination 33 years ago. you have to go back, and folks have forgotten, things happen. at some level, though, does it make a difference obviously, everyone wants to see justice served, but is he going to be in a different state whether he s charged or not of the new offense? he s still remaining in the mental health facility that he was placed in after the event. if he s found to be insane, he ll be there anyway. that s really that s what we re talking about. kirsten, conceivably, though, the only way this changes is if charged with murder, you get over double jeopardy, get over the fact that you have to prove that 33 years later, this killed him, and then he would have to be convicted and not found to be insane, and then he goes to jail, is that the idea here? it is. it s a monumental burden. the government in the first instance and just standard homicide cases looking beyond a reasonable doubt, biggest burden in the system, and then when you start adding the elements on, i think it s going to be highly unlikely we see charges coming forward. the medical examiner s ruling of a homicide is largely, you know, a check the box thing. there are it s an inflammatory term, but it s one of the four or five options that the medical examiner has when determines how someone died. this may not be necessarily a prelude to a prosecution? right. that s not binding on any court to deem it a homicide connected to the events. and the prosecutor does not necessarily bring a case? they can say we don t have anything here? right. look at it and say maybe it s not successful, it s not worth pursuing. all right. they have to look any time there is a homicide. look at it? with a decision, look at it, but it s above and beyond typical hurdles the government has. this is an extremely difficult case. uncharted territory almost forture thank you for joining us, ladies, and our thoughts remain with the brady family who made an impact over the past three decades. back to you. thank you, a programming note, fox news reporting an conned by bret baer looks at obamacare and how it affects the people in new hampshire with the state motto of live free or die, they are proud of the independent spirit. fox talks with americans who opted out of government health care, lost their doctor, and even quit practicing medicine rather than deal with the affordable care act. reporter: from 2008 to 2010, she served in the house as a democratic representative. this is one democrat who wants nothing to do with obamacare. we will opt out. we re being asked to pay for things we don t need. cheers. cheers. price has been with her partner for 20 years. tieing the knot in 2010. i m married to someone of the same sex, but yet i m made now to purchase birth control coverage and pregnancy coverage. i m 50, my partner is 57, i m sure we don t need birth control. by the way, don t miss the fox news reporting live free or die: obama care in new hampshire only on the fox news channel. don t miss it. tonight, a great night for a moonlight stroll. you re not going to. to miss this. we ll tell you why and the science behind it coming up. what can i do with my 7 dollar a month android plan from tracfon? 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what s happening now? wolf, we re told this mission could happen any time now at any hour the 12-mile perimeter is internationally recognized as the limit of territorial waters. the u.s. taking this step to convey it does not view these manufactured islands as chinese territory. and therefore considers these waters around them to be international. this the second message the obama administration has delivered to china this year. in may we flew on a u.s. surveillance aircraft poseidon over these same manufactured islands. a similar message from the u.s. that it does not recognize the air space over them as chinese either. and you may remember at the time we received multiple warnings from the ground the chinese navy on the ground. this is what they sounded like in that cockpit. foreign military aircraft thr, this is chinese navy. you are approaching our military alert zone. leave immediately. you can expect that u.s. destroyer to hear a similar warning if it sails within those 12 miles. remember, the u.s. has accused china of militarizing these islanding by building landing strips for military aircraft, ports for chinese navy ships, even placing artillery on some of these islands. the construction has stopped, but i m told that s only because they have completed that construction by now. you know, wolf, some people refer to these islands as unsinkable aircraft carriers. in effect they have that way to project power in this case 600 miles from china s shore. i remember when you got that exclusive look over those manmade islands. there s another developing story we re following right now for the first time we re seeing this new video that came out of that daring u.s.-kurdish commando raid last week when one american soldier unfortunately was killed in that raid. we re also now getting indications more of this may be in the works? that s right. in fact, when i pressed defense secretary ashton carter about the possibility of u.s. forces on the ground facing more combat in iraq, he said at the time that we will see more missions like this. and now we have a rare look inside one of them. a dangerous operation by the elite delta force, the raid of course that unfortunately left master sergeant joshua wheeler dead, mortally wounded. first u.s. combat death in iraq since 2011. the kurds though meant to do the fighting, the u.s. in a backup role. that is not how it transpired. isis held prisoners running for their lives freed from the terror group in a daring u.s.-kurdish joint raid. new helmet cam video shows the raid in northern iraq thursday that led to america s first combat death since 2011. delta force special operators alongside kurdish cobra commandos seen here checking hostages for weapons or suicide vests. inside an isis flag hangs on the wall. then the pop-pop-pop of gunfire as prisoners, some bloodied, flee the compound. later after being cleared a u.s. warplanes bomb the compound into rubble. isis released video showing it says the resulting damage. the deadly battle was the first time u.s. forces have directly engaged isis fighters on the ground in iraq. the hostages thought to be in imminent danger of execution after u.s. surveillance showed mass graves had been dug. the freed prisoners now claiming they were sent to be executed after morning prayers thursday, says the pentagon. five helicopters brought in nearly 30 u.s. special forces and 40 kurdish troops. the u.s. forces were not meant to directly join the fire fight, but when kurdish forces were overwhelmed, delta force operators entered the walled compound where master sergeant joshua wheeler was mortally wounded. master sergeant wheeler s remains returned home saturday greeted at dover air force base by defense secretary ash carter and army chief of staff mark milly. asked by cnn friday if u.s. forces were now in combat in iraq, secretary carter said to expect more raids. we have this capability. it is a great american strength. there are other capabilities the u.s. has been considering including placing forward ground controllers with iraqi forces. they could call in air strikes from the ground. also the possibility of moving military advisers that have been training iraqi forces inside bases in and around iraq moving them to be forward deployed with iraqi forces. going back to chief of staff or chairman of the joint chiefs rather martin dempsey, he s mentioned those options a number of times. so far options the president has not yet exercised. we ll see what happens. obviously on multiple fronts very disturbing information. thanks very much. meanwhile, there s also a new report raising serious troubling questions about the security of undersea cables which carry much of the world s internet traffic and financial transactions. the new york times reporting that russian submarines pose a threat to those vital communications links. brian todd has been digging into this report for us. brian, what are you learning? wolf, we re told by experts tonight that those undersea fiberoptic cables, you see them here being placed by a ship in the water, these cables are very vulnerable. they have hundreds of breaks a year most of them caused by natural occurrences. but could vladimir putin, the russian president who s been so antagonistic to his rivals recently, could he and his navy be posing an increased threat to those cables? the new york times reports that more than a dozen unnamed pentagon officials have raised concern that russian submarines and spy ships like this one are aggressively patrolling near important fiberoptic cables which carry the bulk of the world s internet communications. those cables are a couple of miles down on the ocean floor. there s about 373,000 miles of cable down there running all across the globe. enough to circle the globe at the equator 15 times. according to the new york times officials are concerned that if a larger conflict between russia and the west broke out a russian ship could locate an internet cable on the sea floor could lower submersible down to it and either attach a wiretap to eavesdrop on it or worse could sever the cable cutting off a crucial data pipeline. now, the times and other newspapers are reporting that a russian ship called the yantar, you see a picture of it here in cuba, that this ship has been spotted cruising in the atlantic cable lies.m where at least one- the yantar according to reports has submersibles that have the capability to cut cables on the ocean floor. but officials we spoke with are downplaying the new york times report. one u.s. official tells cnn the russians could tamper with the cables, but the u.s. has not seen a significant increase in russian activity where the cables are located. there s been no evidence of any actual cutting of the cables as well, wolf. no evidence of that yet, but this vessel, the yantar seen kind of cruising around near where one of the cables lies in the atlantic, wolf. and the russians are pushing back on this as well, right? that s right, wolf. we contacted a spokeswoman at the russian foreign ministry. she says, quote, as we can see the media has been constantly whipping up hysteria lately trying to make russia look like the aggressor. all those reports she says are not based on facts but based on assumptions. they give impressions or concerns but no facts. the russians pushing back hard on this tonight, wolf. brian todd, thanks very much. joining us now is the former nato supreme ally commander retired general wesley clark. general clark, thanks very much for joining us. how likely is it in your estimation that the russians potentially could tamper with these cables? well, i think in the event of a significant conflict there might be tampering with it. but there would also be interference with satellite communications and interference with land based communications in europe or middle east. it s part of the doctrine of warfa warfare. and what you ve seen on the part of russia under vladimir putin is they ve been increasingly assertive trying to restore their capabilities and show people their influence. so if they re going out and mapping cables undersea in case of time of conflict, that s more of the same. it would be devastating for the u.s. and its allies, but potentially could be totally devastating for the russians as well, right? that s exactly right because a lot of that internet traffic is broken up in bits. it s sent all over the world. and it s reassembled later. so for any particular message you re not quite sure which route it might be taking. so it could effect russia, certainly would. is this just muscle flexing on the part of the russians? what s going on over here? because all of this is so reminiscent you and i well remember the battle days of the cold war. well, it is reminiscent of the cold war, but this is part of ocean graphic research that all navies do. they want to see what s on the bottom. they re looking for strategic significance, may be looking for ways to navigate their submarines, may be looking for hiding places for let s say moored mines that are remotely activated and shipping lanes. and they may be looking for undersea cables. so you just don t know. people do this and other navies do this as well. general, i want you to standby. there are other very disturbing developments going on right now. russia s involvement in syria potentially in iraq and now there s some indication the u.s. may be getting ready to talk to iran as far as syria s concern. stay with us, general clark, we have much to discuss. it takes a lot of work. to run this business. but i really love it. i m on the move all day long. and sometimes, i just don t eat the way i should. so i drink boost® to get the nutrition that i m missing. boost complete nutritional drink has 26 essential vitamins and minerals, including calcium and vitamin d to support strong bones and 10 grams of protein to help maintain muscle. all with a great taste. i don t plan on slowing down any time soon. stay strong. stay active with boost®. the market.redict. but at t. rowe price, we can help guide your investments through good times and bad. for over 75 years, our clients have relied on us to bring our best thinking to their investments so in a variety of market conditions. you can feel confident. .in our experience. call a t. rowe price retirement specialist or your advisor .to see how we can help make the most of your retirement savings. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. more and more people with type 2 diabetes are learning about long-acting levemir®. as my diabetes changed, it got harder to control my blood sugar. today, i m asking about levemir®. vo: levemir® is an injectable insulin that can give you blood sugar control for up to 24 hours. and levemir® helps lower your a1c. levemir® lasts 42 days without refrigeration. that s 50% longer than lantus®, which lasts 28 days. levemir® comes in flextouch, the latest in insulin pen technology from novo nordisk. levemir® is a long-acting insulin used to control high blood sugar in adults and children with diabetes and is not recommended to treat diabetic ketoacidosis. do not use levemir® if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. the most common side effect is low blood sugar, which may cause symptoms such as sweating, shakiness, confusion, and headache. severe low blood sugar can be serious and life-threatening. ask your doctor about alcohol use, operating machinery, or driving. other possible side effects include injection site reactions. tell your doctor about all medicines you take and all of your medical conditions. check your blood sugar. your insulin dose should not be changed without asking your doctor. get medical help right away if you have trouble breathing, sweating, extreme drowsiness, swelling of your face, tongue, or throat, dizziness, or confusion. today s the day to ask about levemir® flextouch. covered by most health insurance and medicare plans. why is philips sonicare the most loved electric toothbrush brand by americans and their dentists? 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i think the chinese are going to send out some boats to try to intercept the destroyer. and they ll be some harassment, but i don t think you ll see shots exchanged. but, you know wolf, it is somewhat unpredictable. and it s always a little dangerous to make a prediction here. the united states is doing what we believe is the right thing by demonstrating that this is freedom of the seas. it s a rule of the sea navigation issue for the united states and for really the whole world that we re standing up for here. and china has to decide how it s going to respond. and this is the kind of process that you have to go through to communicate effectively the significance to the chinese of their actions. let s talk about what russia s up to in syria right now. syria s four-year civil war, hundreds of thousands of people dead, millions of refugees. last week the secretary of state john kerry met with russian officials, turkish officials, saudi officials, supposedly according to u.s. officials there was a good meeting. now they re thinking of expanding that to bring in iran into those efforts, iran and russia obviously have very good relations with bashar al assad s regime in damascus. is that a good idea for the u.s. to be directly engaged with iran now and what s going on in syria? i think it s going to be inevitable that we re going to at some point be directly engaged with iran in syria. we after all do have a nuclear agreement with them. this is all part of the process. but our problem in this, wolf, is leverage. we don t have the leverage to offset assuming that our objectives and russia s are not the same, that russia wants to keep assad in, russia wants to control the replacement and working with iran russia wants to help iran establish this persian corridor across the middle east in putting more pressure on lebanon and ultimately jordan and israel. so our objectives aren t the same. and we don t have the leverage directly in these negotiations because they re the moderate syrians, the free syrian opposition has systematically not been supported. including the relationship in turkey and france and also the thousands of fighters that were armed and train ed. so we don t have the leverage to go toe to toe in this. so we re going to be on the losing end of the diplomacy one way or another. and potentially it means bashar al assad stays in power at least for the time being if he s got the russians, iranians very influential supporters right now. we re going to continue our reporting on what s going on. general clark, thanks very much. thank you, wolf. coming up, new poll shows ben carson with his widest lead over donald trump in iowa. senator marco rubio quietly making up some ground. plus, the clinton campaign pulls out some star power on the campaign trail just as senator bernie sanders sounds a bit more negative. big day? 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hi there, wolf. well, on friday hillary clinton in an interview with msnbc revised history a bit on her husband s motivation for signing the defense of marriage act into law in 1996. she said or there was evidence that it could help stop a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage. well, bernie sanders called her on this over the weekend, gay marriage advocates backing him up. but clinton sharpened her elbows too implying that something sanders said in the debate was sexist. and surprise, surprise sanders popped up today on a popular daytime womens tv show. bernie sanders making a play for the womens vote on the view today. if you are a mom and you have a baby, you have the right to stay home with paid family and medical leave for at least three months. reporter: after a busy wee d weekend on the campaign trail. i ve never been the warmup act for katy perry before. reporter: at a campaign rally in iowa, hillary clinton got a little help from her husband and pop star katy perry trying to inject a little excitement into her campaign. it s time to wake up, america. reporter: democratic candidates made the rounds at the state party s annual jefferson jackson dinner this weekend. bernie sanders sharpening his differences with clinton on trade, the iraq war and her support for the anti-same-sex law signed by her husband. i will not abandon any segment of american society whether you re gay or black or latino, poor or working class, just because it is politically expedient at a given time. reporter: and clinton insinuating sexism from her top competitor. i ve been told to stop shouting about ending gun violence. well, i haven t been shouting, but sometimes when a woman speaks out some people think it s shouting. but reporter: that after this line from the democratic debate. that all the shouting in the world is not going to do what i would hope all of us want. reporter: sanders calling foul on cnn s state of the union . i am very proud of my record on womens issues. i certainly do not have a problem with women speaking out. and i think what the secretary is doing there is taking words and misapplying them. reporter: this is clinton releases a new ad promising to fight for equal pay. i m going to do everything i can to make sure every woman in every job gets paid the same as the men who are doing that job. reporter: and the next move for hillary clinton is a two-day swing this week through new hampshire. she ll be trying to shore up some support there in a state that has turned out to be competitive with bernie sanders. and then next, wolf, she s heading south trying to shore up the african-american vote. she ll be going to atlanta. she ll be going to south carolina. she ll be talking to the naacp, the african-american vote so important. really all important for a democratic candidate in that state. new hampshire, bernie sanders still slightly ahead of hillary clinton in new hampshire as well. our standby, brianna, i also want to bring in our cnn political commentator ryan lizza along with national political reporter rebecca berg. in fact, stay with us for a moment. we have lots to assess to discuss. we got to take a quick break. much more right after this. prepare for challenges specific to your business by working with trusted advisors who help turn obstacles into opportunities. experience the power of being understood. rsm. audit, tax and consulting for the middle market. the great beauty of owning a property is that you can create wealth through capital appreciation, and this has been denied to many south africans for generations. this is an opportunity to right that wrong. the idea was to bring capital into the affordable housing space in south africa, with a fund that offers families of modest income safe and good accommodation. citi got involved very early on and showed an enormous commitment. and that gave other investors confidence. citi s really unique, because they bring deep understanding of what s happening in africa. i really believe we only live once, and so you need to take an idea that you have and go for it. you have the opportunity to say, i ve been part of the creation of over 27,000 units of housing, and to replicate this across the entire african continent. and ca super food? 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well, first of all, wolf, the gloves are coming off on both sides. it is true marco rubio is rising in the polls, but he s also taking off the gloves. he criticized front runner donald trump on national security and immigration. but we started by asking rubio why he isn t winning in his home state of florida. if you start paying attention to these polls in october, i mean, you ll go crazy. i ve been up. i ve been down. but you re the sitting senator in florida. it s a very unusual year. and i think part of it is people are really angry about the direction of our country. so here s the good news for marco rubio. democrats say you re the triple threat. that you re the young, new, fresh face. that you re great in the debates. that you are hispanic. and you put florida into play. so why is it taking you so long to get traction? first of all none of those things matter. that s just campaign talk. it s like politics today is covered almost like sports. so you watch these teams have a good game, top team in the world. next week they have a bad game, it s disaster. that s not the way campaigns work. the way the rubio campaign works is not glamorous. behind the scenes he races from event to event trying to raise money, trying to inch up in the polls and taking on donald trump. at the trump event there were protesters on immigration. and at the end trump said i m going to win with hispanics. i love the hispanics. what do you think when you hear him say things like that? i mean, that s donald being donald. that s what it is. he is is the front runner though. is he more in tune with the republican party on this issue than you are? no. his rhetoric is a little louder, but if you think about where he was six months ago his position on immigration six months ago was nothing like what he s saying now. and even what he s saying now borders on the absurd. jeb bush says donald trump has dangerous views on national security. are you comfortable with the idea of donald trump with his finger on the button? well, i wouldn t term it that way. i would say ultimately the next president of the united states on their first day in office must understand the threats that face this country and must have shown good judgment about what to do about those issues. are you comfortable the truth is as i said in the debates the last time on cnn, i don t believe that up to this point in the campaign he has clearly outlined a deep understanding of the issues before this country in a serious way. and obviously he has time to change that. so right now he s not ready to be commander in chief? to this point in the campaign he has not proven an understanding of these issues or the preparation necessary to be the commander in chief of the most powerful military force in the world. if he s the nominee, would you enthusiastically support him? well, i m going to support the republican nominee. and i m comfortable it s not going to be donald trump. and i m increasingly confident it s going to be me. okay. i feel good answering that question. marco rubio criticism over and over again that you keep missing votes on the senate floor. 43% of the votes. i know you say you re campaigning for president, but bernie sanders, rand paul, they ve missed fewer than 10 votes, you re up at 59 or 60. well, everyone needs to run their own campaign. i can tell you in the history of presidential politics people when they ve been running for politics in the senate they miss votes. and i m not missing votes because i m on vacation. but this many votes? actually, this is lower than what other people have missed. and here s the other point, i m running for president so the votes they take in the senate are actually meaningful again. a lot of these votes aren t going to mean anything. even if they do pass the president would veto it. the other day you got up on the senate floor and said federal workers who don t show up should be fired. that s not what i said. what did you say? i said federal workers that aren t doing their jobs that aren t performing at their jobs should be fired, should be held accountable for not performing. so someone might say you re not showing up, you re not doing your job by voting. not true. you don t think you re in a glass house? we re still looking out wait a minute, votes aren t important, intelligence committee hearings aren t important? i was just there tuesday got fully briefed and caught up on everything that s happening in the world. i m fully aware we have a staffer assigned to intelligence. we get constant briefings. so it turns out, wolf, that there is a former senator who missed more votes than marco rubio. for the record he is now the sitting president of the united states barack obama, wolf. and when he was running for president back in 2007, 2008, he was a sitting junior senator from illinois. jamie, you re also doing a lot of reporting on jeb bush s new strategy that seems to be emerging. he s been going through some tough times. explain what you re learning. so, you know, suffering in single digits. he is struggling. he is frustrated by the trump phenomenon and ben carson. so the jeb campaign sources close to the campaign tell me that they are, quote, tearing up the script. and they are going to let jeb be jeb. my source says that the campaign has realized at this point they have nothing to lose. and they re going to try a new tack, a new strategy of letting jeb relax and speak his mind. what you saw this weekend when jeb was very outspoken, expect to see more of that jeb bush unleashed. also expect to see him spending more time in new hampshire and south carolina. and they really insist that despite all this dire talk jeb bush is not going anywhere. last but not least at the debate this wednesday night watch closely. i think you re going to see a new jeb bush. there may be some fireworks. sources close to his campaign say he must take control of that debate. that is key, wolf. all right, jamie, thanks very much. let s bring back our cnn political commentator the new yorker magazine s washington correspondent ryan lizza, our senior political correspondent brianna keilar and real clear politics national political reporter rebecca berg. ryan, can he go, jeb bush, toe-to-toe when it comes to being aggressive, tough, a lot of energy with donald trump? we haven t seen it yet, but it is the right approach. i mean, it is time that jeb bush realizes he s in single digits, his campaign original campaign strategy didn t work. and he needs to adjust to the reality of the campaign, which is he is a serious underdog at this point. the actual front runner is donald trump. and it makes sense that he s the shock and awe strategy that he started with didn t work, so it makes sense to just flip the script, go back to do what mccain did in 2008. mccain entered the republican primaries in 2008, campaign bottomed out and reassessed everything and came out as the nominee. i don t think it s too late for jeb bush. we ll see if they can manage to regroup following the setback. rebecca, this monmouth university poll now the third poll in recent days that has donald trump second, not first, behind dr. ben carson. 32% for carson, 18% for trump. what is driving this surge for carson? well, carson is iowa s cup of tea. i mean, if you look at his personality, his campaign style, the issues he cares about and the issues he talks about he s actually much better suited to iowa than donald trump has ever been. so i m really not surprised that he is polling better now than donald trump in iowa. i figured it was only a matter of time. but donald trump i should know is still polling ahead of carson in all the other early primary states. i was just in florida this weekend for donald trump s rallies in miami and jacksonville and still beating everyone in the field there including marco rubio and jeb bush as we just saw in that interview. which is huge cause for concern for both of them. so carson, i mean, there are a number of republicans right now who will say carson is the favorite to win iowa. and i think we re seeing that reflected in the polls. still almost 100 days to go before the iowa caucuses february 1st. as you point out trump is still way ahead in the national polls and all the other state polls in iowa ben carson is doing really well. it explains in part, brianna, why trump is now taking direct aim at ben carson. clearly donald trump is upset he s not winning in these polls in iowa. and all of a sudden he starts discussing dr. ben carson s religion. listen to this. i m presbyterian. boy, that s down the middle of the road, folks, in all fairness. i mean, seventh day adventist i don t know about. i just don t know about. ben carson s a seventh day adventist. and he s doing really, really well with christian evangelicals in iowa. but donald trump all of a sudden saying i don t know anything about seventh day adventist. trying to maybe paint him as quite not, you know, in a way sort of maybe outside of the mainstream trying to create some doubt there. he s doing that because as we know donald trump looks at the polls. and a recent quinnipiac university poll shows that one-third of likely republican caucus goers think they think donald trump is a committed christian, but that means a lot of them do not, or they have doubts. we ve started to see donald trump carrying his bible to campaign events. that s not by accident. keep in mind this is the same guy in august couldn t name the bible verse he prefers. in september he referred to a bible verse that he enjoys in proverbs that didn t exist, campaign said one bible verse and later he said no it s proverbs 24 which is not the one they said it was. and i think he sort of, you know, as people are starting to pay attention in iowa i think he s looking at the polls, but i also think this is maybe dangerous territory for him as well. this is the state that went for rick santorum in 2012, went for mike huckabee in 2008. in 96 bob dole won beating pat buchanan by just a few points. trump did conced though that the art of the deal, his own book, was his second favorite book and that the bible was better than the art of the deal. to the bible. i bet you he could pull out an excerpt yes. i think maybe he s differing to only god, right? 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reporter: wolf, it s been a little more than 12 hours since the earth shook across central asia. the epicenter in a rural, very rugged mountainous part of afghanistan. already the death toll combined from afghanistan and neighboring pakistan and even in india, at least 229 people killed. the governments in the region are mobilizing disaster management teams and trying to get a sense, a big challenge right now is going to be trying to figure out the extent of the damage across this isolated region. tonight, as the death toll grows and the aftershocks continue, millions of people are on edge across countries in south and central asia. the 7.5 quake rocked monday afternoon toppling buildings, leveling homes and sending hundreds of thousands into panic. [speaking foreign language]. reporter: among the victims, 12 afghan girls who died in a stampede trying to escape their school building. medical workers scramble as the injured are rushed into this hospital in pakistan. the moment the quake struck in kabul captured live during a broadcast. the centsen epicenter was 40 mi of the afghanistan pakistan boarder and felt more than 500 miles away, and in new deli where frightened office workers poured onto the streets. rescue efforts are complicated by spotty communications and rural mountainous regions, which are hard to access. it s a very difficult terrain. to get information and to get aid to some of the remote affected areas will be difficult. reporter: just ten years ago, this same region suffered another major earthquake that left more than 70,000 people dead. the telecommunications to this part of afghanistan, wolf, have been really spotty since the earthquake. i ve been to this area 10, 15 years ago. there were no paved roads in the entire province where the epicenter was. there s been more development since then. fortunately, it is a sparsely populated area, and essential bit of help will perhaps be the u.s. military, which still has a significant presence in afghanistan. it will have more helicopters and left power to get rescue teams to the area to help medivac people. houses built with mud, brick and unfortunately, they are not tall buildings, not high rises, they do tend to come down when the earth shakes this area. a lot of work will be needed to be done in the coming hours to assess the damage and to get to the people who may have been hurt and get them medical help fast right now, wolf. real disaster, thank you for that report. coming up, stunning new video of commandos battling isis. a u.s. soldier died in the fight and the pentagon hints more ground combat could be on the way and the fbi director taking heat on the ferguson effect. are police holding back because of the close scrutiny of their tactics? happening now, breaking news, high stakes. cnn learning the pentagon is sending a navy destroyer to pass within miles of china s islands. a direct challenge and expected to happen within hours. how will china s military respond? under water spying. russian ships and submarines are lurking under communications cables linking the u.s. with allies and carrying much of the world s internet data. is vladimir putin starting a new cold war gain? trump s target, donald trump ramps up attacks on rival ben carson as the poll shows the retired neurosurgeon with a significant lead in a critical early voting state. is trump s campaign starting to lose steam? and blaming the protesters, the fbi director sparks controversy as he links the aftermath of ferguson protest to a to special spark in crime as intense scrutiny. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i m wolf blitzer, you re the situation room . we re following the breaking news, a bold move by the pentagon challenging china east east s claims. we re told it could happen within hours and that china s military has not been officially informed. we re also following controversial remarks by the fbi director about the spike in violent crime across the united states. he says it may, repeat may be the result of heightened scrutiny of police that s followed the unrest in ferguson, missouri last year and that officers may feel restrained. he says the black lives matter movements could have sprung up in response maybe pushing apart police and the communities they serve. we re covering all of this, much more this hour with our guests, including iraqi member of the house armed services committee, adam smith of washington, our correspondents and experts are also standing by for complete analysis and the latest information. let s begin with the breaking news. our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto is joining us. you saw china s man made islands. we re told this mission could happen at any hour now. the u.s. taking this step to make clear it does not view these manufactured islands as territory and therefore considers the waters around them international. this is the second message the obama administration delivered to china this year over these islands. in may we flew on a u.s. aircraft over these islands, a message from the u.s. it does not recognize the air space over them as chinese, either. we received multiple warnings like this one from chinese navy on the ground. military aircraft, this is chinese navy, you are approaching our military alert zone. leave immediately. destroyers are expected to hear similar warnings on the bridge. it is acting to keep shipping lanes open in international waters but the u.s. accused china of militarizing these islands building landing scrapes and placing artillery on some of them. to be clear, china not the only making claims. others reclaimed land but china has some 2,000 acres of land in the south china sea, that is wolf, by far more than any other claim in the south china sea. disturbing, indeed. there is also dramatic video of the raid to free isis hostages and we re learning u.s. forces may be involved in some of that combat activity. ashton carter seeming to telegraph that on friday. looks very much like u.s. forces were in combat here. he said that similar raids like this will take place in the future and this video gives us a rare look inside a dangerous opposition, this one including elements of the elite delta force partnering with kurdish commandos. you can see prisoners coming out. they were held, a combination of iraqi security forces, civilians and isis fighters accused of spying. first freed from their cells and in this portion they are coming out to the pop, pop, pop of gunfire, this was under gunfire, dangerous operation, before these pictures were taken that joshua wheeler was killed. he was mortally wounded. the first u.s. combat death in iraq in four years and we re told when this happened, he was meant like the other delta force commandos to be in the background, but when they came under overwhelming fire inside this walled compound, master sergeant wheeler went inside to come to the aid of the kurdish commandos. wolf, under the scriptures of advice and assist, u.s. forces are meant to be in the back behind the last concealed position. the commander on the ground, including wheeler made the decision to come to the aid of partners and unfortunately lost his life for that. our deepest condolences to his wife and four kids. sad development, indeed. we re following the report of russian trips and submarines lurking near under sea cables that carry almost all of the world s internet communications. officials are growing increasingly concerned. brian ittodd is joining us. these cables are vital. we all use them. vladimir putin and his military as we know are constantly going on the offensive confronting, provoking and antagonizing rivals in crimea, syria and elsewhere and putin may have reached a new low, challenging a vital priest of u.s. infrastructure miles under the atlantic. reporter: putin flexing military might inside a russian navy submersible but some are questioning if he s doing more than putting on a show under the sea. a new report from the new york times sites more than a dozen u.s. officials raising concerns russian submarines and spy ships are patrolling under sea cables. massive fiberoptic lines spanning from continue innocent to continent. their goals are to humiliate the united states and project naval power into the atlantic showing the united states and europe, we re here, you have to deal with us and take us seriously and we can propose a threat to your most vital interest. reporter: according to the times, they are worried if a larger conflict between the u.s. and russia broke out, they could find a wire, and drop a wiretap or destroy it. we hear a lot of talk about the cloud for example and we think of it as something in the sky. well, the cloud is really under the ocean. reporter: jonathan works with a company which monitors telecom infrastructures. he says there are hundreds of these cables stretching across the ocean floors, enough he says to span the global at the equator 15 times. he says if multiple under sea cables were cut at once, it could harm american business and government interests and could have even more catastrophic effects on europe. tonight, the pentagon won t confirm the concerns raised in the new york times. one u.s. official says while the russians could tamper with the cables, the u.s. hasn t seen a significant increase in russian activity where the cables are located. there is also been no evidence of any actual cable cutting. but newspaper reports say the russian ship which is equipped with submersibles capable of cutting cables has been spotted cruising in the atlantic not far from where one cable is located. no u.s. agency will speak on the record. a pentagon spokes pan s s pan s would be a concern if any country was tampering with internet cables. a spokeswoman says quote, the media is constantly whipping up hysteria trying to make russia look like the aggressor. she says it is not based on facts but assumptions. i know, brian, russia is pushing back but have become the more aggressive in the naval maneuvers recently, is that right? american naval forces says the operational tempo of vladimir putin s submarine force is increasing. russian submarine patrols has risen by 50% in the past year. there was an incident off sweden last year when the swedish navy was looking for a vessel which reported a distress signal in russian language. russians denied it was one of the subs and there is a strong possibility a russian subwas maneuvering off the coast of sweden. one example, wolf. thanks very much. i want to talk about this and more with democratic congressman adam smith of washington state. thanks for joining us. let s clear up what is going on in the south china sea now. i assume you ve been briefed on the u.s. navy destroyer heading to the man made islands the chinese have apparently built for military purposes, potentially there could be controversy or exchange if it goes badly. potentially. but i don t think it will rise to that. we re trying to establish these are international waters and anyone can travel in them. and to stop china from asserting a right to the waters that blocks others from having access to it. these are waters that have typically been, like i said, international and we ll establish they still are. certainly it s important for us to be able to travel freely in those areas but more important for other countries in that region. we want to make sure it remains international waters. the chinese say these are their territorial waters and if you get too close, you re entering china. yes, and that is not the case under international law, they that s not part of china. that s a dispute as you know. there is a number of different islands in that area south korea and philippines and other countries dispute who owns what but there are means for resolving that sort of simply asserting the authority by building islands and saying it s ours. that s not the way international law works. you re saying the u.s. wants to make a point right now by sending this destroyer there and telling the chinese that these are international waters, hoping the chinese accept what the u.s. saying is. we want to resolve them diplomatically, we re not bigger and stronger than you are so we ll take them. what do you make of the russian moves under the sea potentially as you heard brian todd report, potentially could threaten internet cables, fiberoptics that control so much of the world s communications, financial distribution, as well. the bigger threat, i don t know what russia s interest would be in sort of severing those communications. the bigger threat is tapping them and getting intel and stealing phone calls or 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[ laughter ] no, it s true. he needs counsel. and he was very angry over the week. he said, you know, if this is going to be this nasty, let them have trump as their president. it s going to be nasty. hey, putin is a nastier guy than me. as the billionaire businessman down plays how his own family helped him get ahead. it s not been easy for me. i start aued off in brooke list. my father gave me a small loan of $1 million and i had to pay him back and with interest. donors at jeb s houston retreat tell me they believe his moment will come. today he got a little backup from his brother george w. bush that spoke to the group and told them republicans need to choose a nominee that can win the latino vote. he says jeb is that guy. jeb does speak spanish fl fluently. and joining us, course contributing editor, commentator peter. thanks, guys. ben carson, third poll in a row in iowa. he s a 32% and trump is at 18%. what is pushing carson to this significant advantage? two things, one in iowa obviously being someone whose very religious, appeals to e van gel ki evangelical voters and he s not a politician. i do think he also, he s not well-known. we haven t he hasn t gone through the scrutiny phase yet. the media hasn t treated him like a front runner and when you get treated like a front runner, you get more negative coverage. this is a testing period for carson and he ll get more coverage and will come scrutiny and we ll see if he s ready. i think this is major danger sign for donald trump because these early state polls are sort of early indicator. the national polls are sometimes lagging indicators and it s a sequential process. iowa votes and if trump gets beat in iowa, it could be all over. iowa is a caucus state and the key is to get them to show up at a caucus and stay there and not go into a polling booth and voting and going home. the ground game is critical. how long of a ground game does carson have in iowa? he has a very small campaign operation in iowa and in many ways will need the help of a super pact to do most of his organizing. he does have a lot of money. he does have momentum and i guess you can go back to 2011, 2012, rick santorum had very little money and he ended up eventually winning the iowa caucuses. to ryan s point, if donald trump doesn t win iowa it could be over. if ben carson doesn t win iowa, it could be over. sarah, as you ve reported, christian evangelicals among the republican caucus goers really important. donald trump is pointing out he s a presbyterian and mentions the fact dr. ben carson is a seventh day adventous. donald trump is worried ben carson is beating him with evangelica evangelicals. this is not a fit evangelicals liking donald trump and rich and showy and talks about communion like it s the little cracker and wine and they see ben carson more sincere in his religion and more in line with their values and more like the kind of guy you know next door rather than the baillionaire that shows up and draws crowds of thousands and they feel a little more comfortable with him. peter, we heard jeb bush say voters want to hear people demonize each other, they should elect trump. can he make it through the next couple months without in effect really going after trump and in effect, demonizing trump? i don t think that will help at all. he s been fighting with trump over the last month or so. the money into the ads. pouring- i think we re entering a potential death spiral for the jeb bush candidacy. he is the ultimate insider in an environment where republicans really, really don t like their own party elite and not a very good candidate on the stump. i don t see how he gets around this. how does he do that because mark, you ve been spending a lot of time looking at poll numbers. how much time does he have to get poll numbers up nationally, as well as in the key early states. i m not category now i don t think it s all over for jeb. i do think there is a problem. i think they are trying to correct it. i think he s a terrible candidate right now and i don t think you can necessarily put the blame on his campaign but if you were to look at the polls now and if you were to follow the idea that donald trump or ben carson cannot be the republican nominee, then you look at the next set of candidates in these polls and who are they? jeb bush, marco rubio and ted cruz and many people think ted cruz, there is no way the establishment could back him so then what are you down to? the two gentlemen from florida. jeb bush really needs to be a better candidate. i don t know if you can put that on his staff right now. what i wonder is so they are making campaign changes and cutting salaries and slimming down but fine. that feels like a band aid. it doesn t make donald trump go away. so far, they are not showing indication how they deal with that. they are buying more time it seems like. look, we just talked about polls in iowa for the first time we re actually seeing what the jeb people have been arguing all along, trump is a passing phenomenon and said that one month, two months and now three months but we are starting to see carson replace trump in iowa, and so the problem with the jeb case is they are not really masters of their destiny. the theory of jeb is he s got to wait for trump to collapse, carson to collapse or at the very least, a one on one fight. peter, go ahead. the other problem is the other person in his lane, marco rubio is a far more talented politician than he is who has a message far simpler to understand, he represents the future and hillary represents the past and rubio has a buy gra story. i don t think we re very far away from the moment when some of jeb s donors sport to move to rubio because they think he s the only one who really has a chance of stopping trump or carson. let s continue this analysis but a quick break. we re following dramatic video of a confrontation at a south carolina high school today. stand by. we ll tell you what we know. prepare for challenges specific to your business by working with trusted advisors who help turn obstacles into opportunities. experience the power of being understood. rsm. audit, tax and consulting for the middle market. tonight we come to dance.oose. tonight we change things. freedom. freedom. cities across the united states are reeling from a dramatic spike in violent crime and some including the fbi director james ksays that s because of the ferguson effect. increased scrutiny of police tactics has police holding back. i spoke to officers privately in one big city precinct who described being surrounded by young people with mobile phones held high taunting them when they get out of their cars. they said to me, we feel under siege and we don t feel much like getting out of our cars, so the suggestion, question asked of me are these things changing police behavior and does that explain the map and calendar? i honest answer is i don t know and i don t know if that ex spines it entirely but i have a strong sense some part of the explanation is a chill wind that s blown through law enforcement over the last year and that wind is surely changing behavior. our justice reporter evan perez is joining us with more. did the fbi director have a chance to clarify remarks earlier today? well, wolf, he made similar comments today at this convention the international association of chiefs of police here in chicago but he also said that he simply was trying to start a conversation because he is very concerned about the spike in murders and other violent crimes in some parts of the country and he says he doesn t want to wait to see perhaps to discuss this next year. he wants people to talk about it now. he also spoke about the black lives matter issue, as well, #blacklivesmatter. what did he say? he said simply people are not talking to each other. people on one side are tweeting black lives matter on the other side police lives matter is the hashtag and he says what he s concerned about is people need to start talking to each other more to be able to solve some of the problems with policing and especially in the minority communities. here is how he described the issues as he sees it. there is a line of law enforcement and there is a line of communities we serve, especially communities of color and i feel the two lines arking apart through the hashtag black lives matter and the hashtag police lives matter. each of the hashtags adds a voice to an important conversation but when someone interprets hashtag black lives matter as anti police one line moves away and vice versa. wolf, one of the concerns that the fbi director is expressing here is that a lot of this rise in crime is being felt in minority neighborhoods like chicago and washington and baltimore and he says that police have to make sure that they are on their job, that they are getting out of their cars. they are initiating these stops and will bring down the crime rates and he says his concern here is simply that people have to talk about these things. he doesn t want people to just sweep it under the rug because it will be too late by the time we notice what is happening. he makes a fair point, indeed. evan, thanks very much. joining us the former new york city police commissioner ray kelly is the author of a brand-new book entitled vigilance, my life serving. what do you think? do you agree with the remarks of jam james coby when it may be the result of the chill that swept law enforcement since ferguson? i do. i command him for telling it like it is. if you talk to police officers in other jurisdictions, not only in new york where i am, they will tell you that. they are backing off. a lot of police work is discretionary and they don t want to put their careers at risk. they don t want to put their family s well being at risk so they are hesitating. in some people s mind that s a good thing, in my mind it s not a good thing. co brby said we need to figu out what is happening in the spark in crime. what do you think is driving these increases? i think part of it is being driven by what jim says. the officers are not engaging in proactive policing and the level of recent past. actually, proactive policing in my judgment reduced crime in this country for two decades. smarter policing, better use of technology. now, they are not taking the initiative you might say and that s why is causing in my judgment, not totally, but to a significant extent, an increase in violent crime in 30 major cities throughout the country. commissioner, i want to show you disturbing video, show the viewers the video of an encounter between a high school student a and a school resource officer in south carolina where the officer appears to rip the student from her desk. we don t know what happened before the video started but our affiliate says the student was allegedly disrupting class and the student was apparently put in handcuffs. tonight the sheriff s department and school system in south carolina, they say they are investigating but the video is pretty disturbing and i want to get your reaction, commissioner, what do you think? you know, wolf, this is exactly the problem with these videos. you don t see what initiated it. whoever is taking this picture, whatever they decide to show you. let s assume for discussion that this arrest is legitimate, it should be made. well, there is no easy way of making many arrests. there is no marcus of queens mary rule. if someone doesn t want to go along with you, it takes physical force and often not a pretty sight. but again, these videos we see them, we don t know the beginning, we don t know the end, we see whatever the individual taking the picture wants to show us. well, in the video, we do see her sort of sitting there, not moving. we don t know what happened before. she doesn t seem to be resisting and then all of a sudden, her head is slammed like that. it s very disturbing. again, we don t know what happened before and that s, i think that s critical. certainly critical for me to make a comment on it. yeah, hopefully, we ll learn more about this and get a better explanation of what happened. that video is very, very disturbing. let s talk about your new book, your memoir, 50 years of public service and done an amazing job over these 50 years, commissioner. have the relationships between police, minority communities across the country, have they made real progress or is there still decades of angst and anger out there? i think tremendous progress has been made, certainly since i first became a police officer. there are bumps in the road. it has to do with what we ask police officers to do, quite frankly. it s not always a pleasant job. they use force, they use deadly to force. they issue traffic tickets. from my perspective of 43 years in the new york city police deputy, i think the relationships have improved greatly. of course, the videos that we ve seen and horrendous actions in north charleston, south carolina, that s very, very disturbing. it was a murder. but that is just, you know, one of the aberrations that in many ways i think had been blown out of proportion. are they serious? yes. but we see, you know, people who are doing untoward things in every profession, in my judgment in 50 years, police do heroic work, good work, really work that helps the community every day across america. thanks for your service, commissioner. the book is vigilance, my life serving america protecting it s empire city. thanks very much for all of that. thank you, wolf. up next, more on that dramatic new video in the south carolina high school. withof my moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. ordinary objects often seemed. intimidating. doing something simple. meant enduring a lot of pain. narrator: get the real time app narrator: get the real time in the inflammation process. for many, orencia provides long-term relief of ra symptoms. it s helped new ra patients and those not helped enough by other treatments. do not take orencia with another biologic medicine for ra due to an increased risk of serious infection. serious side effects can occur including fatal infections. cases of lymphoma and lung cancer have been reported. tell your doctor if you re prone to or have any infection like an open sore, the flu, or a history of copd, a chronic lung disease. orencia may worsen your copd. if you re not getting the relief you need. ask your doctor about orencia. orencia. see your ra in a different way. and ca super food? 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well, i don t know, wolf, if there s an excuse for slamming. but what happens is that, you know, this officer i don t know if this resource officer is a fully trained police officer or basically a glorified security guard. the person is supposed to be be removed from the classroom and doesn t want to be rehe mohe mo and doesn t comply. we re assuming that s what leads up to the violence. at some point, if the police officer has to put his hands on that person, it s not fwi igoin go well. the lack of compliance accelerates that situation. it does look disturbing, you know. we do want to know more about that. once again, we don t know what happened before. we don t know. let me get don and sunny to weigh in. don, first to you. well, i sort of agree with what tom said. i don t know. it does look disturbing. the part that is most disturbing to me is seeing him throwing her around. i ve looked at it over and over again. as far as the desk going over, i don t know if that fell over because she didn t want to get up or he pushed it. i think there s context to everything. i d like to see what happened before and afterwards. i agree with everyone including the commissioner and including tom. it does look horrible. it does look like there s no excuse for what he s doing to her. but again, we don t know. as the commissioner said, this only shows a small slice in time of what happened. i d lying to know more before passing judgment. are you guys kidding me? no, we re not kidding. we don t know what happened. you weren t sitting in the room, sunny. you don t know if she wasn t standing up. i don t need to know more. you need to know more. as a prosecutor you should want to know more. the law provides the standard here is whether the officer has to use this type of force. whether it s reasonable or necessary. how do you know as a trained professional? how do you know without all the information? the bottom line is, don, this is a young girl. this is a girl in school. i agree with you on that. that s right. there is no justification for using that kind of you don t know what precipitated it. we don t need to know. yes, you do need to know. whether the force is justifiable is the issue. it s not justifiable. she is sitting there. she s not resisting. she is sitting there in a chair. that is you don t know if she s resisting. we have other video. sunny, don, tom, this is from a different angle, some other video that has just come in. let s show it to our viewers. on your back. give me your hands. give me your hands. let me get tom s reaction first. i agree, woman, it looks bad. it looks like it s excessive force. but i would like to see more analysis about it, more of what led up to that, what this officer was saying as far as for her to comply, for her to leave the classroom. so at some point i believe she causes the officer to have to put his hands on her. now the fact that it s excessive, it certainly looks excessive. sunny, the school says this officer is employed by the district sheriff s office. our affiliate wis reports the sheriff s office is investigating the video. should there, though, be some sort of independent investigation? i think so. i mean, oftentimes we ask police officers to investigate themselves. well, guess what, wolf? if you ask me to investigate myself, i m going to get an a, right? you want me to grade myself? so you need to have independent investigators when you re dealing with a situation like this. and again, what we have to recall is that this is a young girl. this is a child in school. is this what we want in our schools? do we want our children policed like this? this is so outrageous, and really i think it is offensive that people are saying, we need context. are our eyes deceiving us? why can t we just admit that what we are seeing is the assault on a child by a person that is supposed to protect her? sunny, before we run out of time. what we re seeing as everybody has said, it looks disturbing. but you want to know more because if this officer is indeed, if he does anything wrong, you don t want him to get away with anything because you did not get all the information. you want to see everything in context. what if she said something nasty to him? guys, we re out of time. we ll continue to study the video, guys. thanks very much. don will have much more 10:00 p.m. tonight. i m wolf blitzer in the situation room. erin burnett outfront starts right now. outfront next. ben carson surging, the doctor double-digit lead over the donald. now trump is attacking. plus, video inside the raid that killed an american in iraq. you ll see what went down when u.s. special forces attempted to rescue isis prisoners facing execution. american staples, bacon and sausage, a new report says they cause cancer and we re all at risk. let s go outfron
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forward to beat hillary clinton. well, you know, it s interesting, because i don t think this is where the gop thought that they would be. this whole idea, you said contested primary actually by mistake, but that s actually what it s been. contested primary season. the gop is rallying behind ted cruz. but in some cases reluctantly so, right? well, i think no one saw this coming. a year ago, i thought it was going to be jeb bush and myself to, you know, two successful governors laying out their vision for america and bumping their records up for each other. but the electorate wants an insider, someone who will really shake washington, d.c. up. i think what they re getting comfortable with is the person who best is capable of doing that, that is the most consistent in their ability to shake washington up, if you will, is ted cruz. he s done what he said he would do. go to washington, d.c. he would do everything he could to overturn obamacare, to take care of our veterans. and people are getting very comfortable that that truly is the individual. they like what they re hearing donald trump say, but they re not sure that this guy is going to be consistent when it comes to actually governing. and actually governing with solutions. we saw once again more terrorists this week obviously create havoc. and now national security is once again the top issue for voters. and they want to feel like they have a leader in place that has a plan to take down isis. yeah, and not just you know, not just throwing up some words that sound good. like let s build a wall and it s going to be a big wall and it s going to be ten feet higher just because you said that and we re going to make mexico pay for it. all interesting rhetoric, but senator cruz has been the one that s actually laid out clearly the way that you secure the border with technology, with boots on the ground, with the type of effort that really we know will work. we haven t heard mr. trump be that specific, and i think now after people are kind of getting past the rhetoric and all the rah-rah stuff and they re looking at the clear plans to get things done, they re settling that ted cruz is actually the person that is going to do what he says he s going to do, and has the consistency and the conservative message to win. not only in the primary process, but also the general election. well, you do have to give donald trump credit for bringing up this issue in such an aggressive way. i had an interview with him back in january, governor. i think it was the end of january 2016, and he said unsolicited that brussels was falling apart. and that it was so radicalized. and then the next day, the new york times writes a story and they say donald trump chose a new city to insult, brussels. and yet, look where we are. and look what just happened in brussels. listen, donald trump has got good instincts. there s not any doubt about that. but we can t govern with just instincts alone. we have to have a plan. when we hear him being pressed about well, tell us what your plan truly is, that s when it gets a little bit into the gray area. i think where americans are starting to get uncomfortable now, that the guy s got good instincts. he s great tv, but when it comes to really laying out with definitive plans and who is consistent when you look back at ted cruz, this is a consistent conservative. day in and day out. i think americans so want consistency in their government. they re tired of people talking one thing and doing something else. we re going to talk with senator cruz coming up in the program. i wanted to get into his tax plan. when it comes to the economy, he also has solid positions in terms of tax reform and rolling back regulations. when you talk about doing away with the irs and being able to file your taxes on a single postcard, not only does that resonate with americans, it is where we need to go as a country to free this country up economically, and i will suggest to you that he has a plan that will work really well. let me ask you about getting the necessary 1,237 delegates. obviously donald trump is still in the lead in that regard, but ted cruz seems to believe that he could actually get to 1,2237 before the convention in july. but doesn t that mean he s going to have to he s going to have to run the table, or he s going to have to win every single contest from here on in. certainly that s his intention. and nobody said this is going to be easy at this point in time. but there still is an avenue for senator cruz to get to the 1,237 before the convention. it s not going to be easy and there s no use trying to tell people that it is. i don t think he ll tell you that it s going to be easy. it is doable, and you can bet he s going to be working listen, wisconsin is going to be really important. what they do matters in wisconsin and having those two guys weigh in for senator cruz could be monumental. you look at jeff sessions is on his team. steven miller, who he had on this program this week is very articulate about the immigration issue. but when it s your home state governor, you think about governor abbott in myself, and obviously senator cruz is from texas. when the home state governor and the speaker of the house, that could be really, really important. i hope both of those will give great consideration to senator cruz. because i know they can work with him at the end of the day. that s powerful stuff. you re right. let s talk delegates at the moment. the delegates that are up for grabs, they re not necessarily trump delegates, they re not necessarily cruz delegates. they re gop delegates. they can go any way. you re absolutely correct. when you look at the way the convention is set up and the process of winnowing down to a nominee, after that first ballot, people are going to come and be committed because their state is committed to donald trump. he won that state. therefore they were committed to him. on the second ballot, they re freed up. they can go wherever they want. i ll suggest to you, those are going to be what i refer to as real republicans. they re activist republicans. talking about they re solidly in the pro-life, pro-traditional family economic world that you find most republicans. and what you ve seen in a lot of states is that, you know, to donald trump s credit, he s brought a lot of people in that aren t republicans that are basically, you know, they ll admit they re democrats, but they kind of are intrigued by him or what have you. but philosophically, they are not in that limited government conservative camp. when that convention occurs, that s the people that you will see voting. that s the reason i think ted cruz in a contested convention is going to do very well. governor, good to see you. thank you for joining us. thank you, maria. have a happy holiday. governor rick perry there. and there are some more surprises to come in the months ahead. we will talk about that with house speaker newt 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prevent donald trump from getting the nomination. how will this play out as we move toward the convention in july? newt gingrich is a fox news contributor, joins me right now. mr. speaker, good to see you. good to see you, and i think it s an extraordinary moment which nobody could have predicted six or eight months ago. it s a little dangerous to predict now, because the truth is none of us knew that you d have donald trump as the frontrunner. nobody would have dreamed you d have ted cruz as the savior of the establishment. it s pretty remarkable. when you look at these most recent fox news polls, it is a lot tighter than i think donald trump would have thought. we re looking at a neck and neck race here, according to these latest polls between cruz and trump. well, the cruz theory all along had been that if other people got out, that in a one-on-one race, the anti-trump vote was larger than the pro-trump vote. the first real test of that i think is going to be in wisconsin in about two weeks. and it s a big deal. i think in the many ways, cruz has to win wisconsin in order to make sense out of his strategy. but if he does win wisconsin, it s going to force trump to really focus on winning states like new york in order to get to the numbers he needs to be nominated. this is not a done deal. cruz has run a very intelligent race with great technology and great investment and grass roots organization. trump has run a brilliant race with media. so two very different styles. but nobody in washington would have believed six months ago that the choice was going to come down to cruz and trump, and that has to be a very sobering realization for the old establishment. for sure. and now we ve that old establishment rally around cruz, by the way, and obviously they weren t counting on that. so this makes wisconsin that much more important. right? we re going to speak to ted cruz in a few minutes. and when i caught up with him earlier this week, he basically said look, i don t need a contested convention because i m going to get the 1,237 delegates going into that july convention. is that possible? well, it s possible. it would require running the table a little more than i think is likely. i think he has to get something like 80% of the remaining delegates. but he s probably counting on kasich s delegates coming with him, and on rubio s delegates coming with him, and that makes it a little bit easier. i think he sincerely believes that in a head-to-head race between he and trump, that trump can t get to a majority anywhere. so it s going to be fascinating. trump so far has turned out to be a very good student of this game. he s clearly going to have to make some adjustments from what he s done up until now. he s in a different environment with different expectations. i would say that cruz has a real shot at it. probably a better shot than you might have thought three or four weeks ago. watching people like jeb bush rally to cruz is a very interesting phenomena, both because of the degree to which the washington establishment did not like cruz until he was the only alternative. but also, i think the question is about to become the next few days, does cruz become the insider candidate, and does that actually start to backfire? i mean, i think he s got to walk a pretty tight rope here between gathering up all of these folks and remaining an outsider, because it s clear that the majority of republican voters want an outsider. they don t want the establishment picking the candidate. how how much do you read into these polls? i look at the latest fox news poll, and one thing that is pretty evident is that when it comes to the general election, ted cruz can beat hillary clinton. john kasich can beat hillary clinton. but not so with donald trump. donald trump has been saying he s the guy to beat hillary clinton. the establishment has pushed back and said no, this is the problem. you re not going to beat hillary clinton. and these polls show he loses to clinton. do you believe that to be true? no. remember that in 1980, in march, ronald reagan was 25 points behind president jimmy carter. so i think it s a long way from here to the general election. i think whoever we nominate, whether it is kasich or cruz or trump will beat hillary clinton because i think her core vulnerabilities are so enormous that in the end, she s not going to be able to survive a general election. but i think it s important to remember that right now, you have a very tough fight under way. you have a lot of media opposed to trump. you have a lot of the republican establishment opposed to trump. and so he s got to climb his way past that. he also has to remember to stay focused on the nomination. he can t afford to shift into a general election style yet because he hasn t finished winning the nomination. i think he s got a pretty hard fight with cruz over the next few weeks, and we ll see you know, i think trump has the advantage. but i think that it s not 90/10. it s more like 60/40 or 65/35. what did you make of paul ryan s speech, basically laying it on the line, saying he s disturbed by the gop and american politics right now? well, i agree with him. i think he should be disturbed. i ve been disturbed much of my career. i came out of a background of ronald reagan and jack kemp, and what we did with the contract with america, i hope that speaker paul ryan is going to be part of creating a better, more ideal oriented, more inclusive republican party. i know that s what he wants to do. and i think in that sense, that his speech is a beacon of hope for all the younger republicans who are looking for a future in which they can be very proud of a governing party. he s got to be a little frustrated. this has been a primary season that has had a lot more tweets and attacks, and not just donald trump. you had rubio and cruz for a long stretch each yelling liar, liar about the other one. so a fair amount of things here. you had the jeb bush pac spending $25 million attacking marco rubio. so it s just been a mess, which is frankly the nature of these primaries. you start out with 17 candidates, there s going to be a fair amount of negativity knocking people out. wow. it s quite extraordinary. mr. speaker, always a pleasure to see you. happy easter to you and family. happy easter. thank you so much. up next, senator cruz will join us. his take on the controversial idea of keeping a close watch on muslim communities. how his plan is different from donald trump s when it comes to muslims, as we look ahead on sunday morning futures. back in a moment. i built my business with passion. but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that s why i have the spark cash card from capital one. i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy for my studio. and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business. that s huge for my bottom line. what s in your wallet? i 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problem, stop justifying the problem. we need to focus on islamism. islamism is a political and t e theocratic philosophy, that murders infidels or violently subject them to shari a law. we need a focused and direct approach from law enforcement and the military, especially isis, as long as isis continues to thrive. these attacks will continue and grow and we ll see more attacks in america. differentiate your position from donald trump s position. i feel like when donald trump first called for a temporary ban on muslims from entering the united states, everybody looked at him and said this guy is nuts. you can t ban all muslim. and yesterday, you said we need to immediately halt the flow of refugees from countries with a significant al qaeda or isis presence. i feel like now most people are agreeing with what donald trump said initially. well, you know, donald uses a lot of hot and angry rhetoric. donald s approach to every problem is to yell and scream and curse. but he doesn t actually have real solutions to fixing the problems. so, for example, donald has said multiple times that he intends, if heere president, to be neutral between israel and the palestinians. now, that statement reflects an astonishing lack of understanding. that israel and the palestinians are not the same situation. if you look at the radical islamic terrorists in hamas that are part of the palestinian authority in a unity government, they are murdering citizens and no one who understands the situation wants to be neutral between the idf forces that are protecting innocent citizens in israel and the terrorists who are celebrating, who are inciting violence, who are compensating the terrorists. your tax plan, got to talk about the economy for a moment. because art laffer says it s the best tax plan out there. why does lower taxes create jobs? what s the 411 on your tax plan? well, look, the simple cause and effect. if you want economic growth, small businesses at the heart of our economy. 2/3 of all new jobs come from small businesses. you get the stagnation and misery and malaise we ve seen. on the alternative, when you lift the burdens on small business, when you lift the taxes, when you lift the regulations, you see incredible economic growth. my tax plan is a simple flat tax. so for a typical family of four, first $36,000 you earn, you pay nothing. no income tax, no payroll tax, no nothing. above $36,000, everyone pays the same simple flat 10%, no longer do you have hedge fund billionaires paying a lower effective tax rate than their secretaries. everyone pays the same. you fill out your taxes on a postcard. and we actually have the postcard on our website, tedcruz.org. you can see the real postcard. when we do that, we abolish the irs. on the business side, we eliminate the corporate income tax. we eliminate the payroll tax. we eliminate the obamacare taxes. and we eliminate the death tax. replace all of them with a simple 16% business flat tax that s fair and uniform. the effect of this will be to produce nearly five million jobs, to raise wages for everyone, to produce economic growth. wisconsin super important for him. tremendously important. how are you feeling ahead of wisconsin? does that lead to your contested convention? well, wisconsin is in two weeks. i m flying to wisconsin today. we ve got great support on the ground. and actually, our first path is to win 1,237 delegates before the convention, and we ve got a direct path to doing so. yesterday s win in utah was a big step. and as long as republicans continue to unite behind our campaign, we will beat donald trump either by getting 1,237 before the convention, or if both of us come into the convention with a bunch of delegates short of 1,237, we win by continuing to unite republicans because donald trump loses to hillary clinton and i beat hillary. great to have you on the program. thank you very much. senator ted cruz joining us. my thanks to senator ted cruz. were americans 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i think that s i think they probably are, at the end of the day they re going to create terrorism everywhere in europe. i think this is the beginning of a long siege. to get here is pretty hard. to keep scaring the heck out of people from traveling, i just think it s a long hard fight and they have a worthless leader who is not taking people seriously. they have really opened borders throughout europe. as a result, abdeslam was able to walk freely in his neighborhood in brussels. he s been living in belgium and living in an area which is close to a no-go area. it s 80%, 90% muslim area. they don t welcome outsiders. they run things very much according to how they wanted it. most of them are not supporters of terrorism, but unfortunately, it s an environment in which radical islamists can thrive. and they have done. he was able to travel freely between france and belgium. he was involved probably in helping abdeslam was very much involved in the paris plot. so are others. as you say, there are no europe decided 30 years ago to bring down the border to core european countries, to take away their borders, which was supposed to obviously encourage trade and free movement, and it has done. the problem is that when you have people who are going to use that freedom, that opportunity to destroy the very way of life that those people have, it s unsustainable. and they re going to have to revisit it. what about these areas, you call them no-go areas. these areas where even the police are afraid to go into. if we know where those areas are, why aren t we just going in and ripping out the terrorists? it s a very good question. europe has these closed communities, they re primarily muslim. and as a function of political correctness, cultural sensitivity, these western governments have decided that they will allow those communities to police themselves, to have shari a law in many instances, where the laws of these different governments don t apply, but shari a is applied. this is a very dangerous situation. it is running europe into the ground. the threat is metastasizing, because these threats grow in this kind of environment, like in a petri dish, and then they expand. what we re really talking about here is civilizational jihad. we talk about violent jihad because that s the most urgent and immediate threat, a question of life and death. but there s also another form of jihad called civilizational. and these no-go zones, this is all part of the infiltration of the west. it s part of destroying western civilization and replacing with shari a law and the domination of islam. this is a very sophisticated group. these are not idiots who basically decide to make a bomb. this is building and building and building and they re having extraordinary results in the sense of the attack in paris, attack here, and the threat is big, and the president dismitsss it. you have to talk to americans. americans are very concerned about travel. travel will be down this summer, i predict. at this point, everybody is on alert, jerry. europe is under really enormous threat. no one knows the exact number of simple authorizers, but there are probably thousands who have been radicalized and who have gone out to syria where they received training. it s not just going and fighting the fight that they re having in syria. it s also about them getting specifically trained in explosives, building explosives, in how to conduct jihad in a western setting. they re coming back easily because many are able to get back in through these huge migrant flows. several million are coming to europe in the course of this year. they live in these communities where they receive protection and where the police are afraid to go after them. cities like brussels, in paris, in parts of germany, parts of the united kingdom, which i think has done a better job of getting on top of these things. europe is threatened by these people who have the motivation, the training, the wherewithal, and the determination to kill innocent people, and that s what they re going to do. it s very scary. all the while, president obama was in cuba this past week and then he went to argentina. when this first happened, he took under a minute to talk about it in a press conference. 40 seconds. the optics of him speaking from arguably one of the biggest communistic dictatorships on the planet about terrorism. and then he did the tango. under the picture of one of the great terrorists in all of latin america. i think the critical thing here is this president, he doesn t take it seriously. his thing is if they don t have a nuclear weapon, and not going to blow up times square, it s not a threat to us. it is a threat. it s a fear threat. we have to use our intelligence forces. we have an extraordinary police force here that every single day worries about these kinds of things. obviously in other parts of europe, they don t have the same kind of sophistication and they basically are not doing the kinds of things that we have to do. we have to take the lead on this. and our president, whoever the next president is, has to take a more significant lead. there s the behavior of the commander in chief this week was appalling, but it should shock no one. this is who he was. after ft. hood, it was workplace violence. san bernardino, same thing. the beheading of an american, james foley by isis, he went and played golf after that. he didn t decide to show up to that march in paris after the two waves of terror attacks in paris last year. this is who he is. so i literally hope that the western world survives the last year of this president, but he s not engaged in this fight. by doing the wave in cuba and the tango in argentina, he is projecting weakness. so the united states is also projecting weakness, and we know the lesson in history which is that the bad guys advance, the good guys retreat, and the wheels come off. were you surprised that no adviser told him, mr. president, what s going on in europe people are afraid in america, don t go to the baseball game and do the wave and don t do the tango? i m sure there was a discussion. but this season an accident. it s not oh, my gosh, somebody forgot that there had been this terrible thing and they went ahead with their schedule anyway. this is deliberate by the president. and he s on record of saying this. he went out at his press conference, by the way, in cuba, he said very clearly, this is not they are not a big threat. they can t destroy us. they can t destroy our way of life. they re a problem and we have to deal with them, but the message was i m not going to disrupt my schedule. i m not going to alarm the american people by flying back to washington or anything like that. this is not a big threat. he said in his famous interview a couple weeks ago, climate change is a bigger threat, is a genuine existential threat to the united states. terrorism is not. that s how he views things. that s what drives his policy. a lot of people disagree with that. that is actually what he thinks. and he said that again in the press conference from cuba. a short break. what did the voters think of the top candidates? 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the opinion of republican candidates. take a look at this favorable/unfavorable ratings that we have here. ted cruz, favorable 59%. 33% unfavorable. donald trump, 55% favorable, 41% unfavorable. john kasich, 46% favorable, 33% unfavorable. we are back with our panel ed rollins, gerry baker, and monica crowley. it just feels like voters and this is republican voters, don t think much of any of these candidates. it s a very polarized electorate. trump probably is the nominee, he s marching that way, but he s not unifying the party. this is a game of addiction. in order to be successful, he has to come out with a unified party. he needs to quit saying nasty things about cruz and kasich and their wives especially, because ultimately women are going to decide this election and he keeps alienating women by attacking megyn and mrs. cruz and others, he s going to have a very hard time. that was ugly, getting on the wives like that. and it s ridiculous. he s won the hard tough guy battle, he now needs to have a soft side. we should point out they don t like hillary clinton very much either. her unfavorables are through the roof and her negatives have been that way for a very long time. they re sick and tired of her. i m saying of the whole process. but it s also true with hillary clinton. i think with the advent of the revelation of the e-mail server, the clinton foundation, the corruption involved there, the fbi investigation. those negatives on her part have only gotten higher. so she s got a challenge of her own, which is to lock down her base, which is with bernie sanders, and to ed s point about donald trump, he s got a similar problem in that he is the frontrunner. he is likely to be the nominee barring some extraordinary event, but he doesn t have his conservative base locked down either. no, people don t see it as a conservative. i think the problem those polling numbers show very clearly that why the idea that somehow this can be won at the convention, taken away from trump at the convention is also a bit of a fantasy. because there s exactly as ed says, the party is so polarized, the idea that say trump is 100 votes short in total dell gots, and someone like cruz or kasich or even somebody who s not even been running could come in in that environment with the level of hostility towards anybody, trump supporters, towards anybody who isn t donald trump, is just a fanciful notion. if it did happen, the party would fracture immediately and would be incapable of winning the general election. this is going to be such a convention. but there s also such activity on the democratic side. we re going to get into hillary clinton and bernie sanders next as well. we re looking ahead this morning on sunday morning futures. with my moderate to severe ulcerative colitis, the possibility of a flare was almost always on my mind. thinking about what to avoid, where to go. and how to deal with my uc. to me, that was normal. until i talked to my doctor. she told 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demonstrate very clearly that trump has a problem. and it is heavily the it is much, much larger than any other candidates. he s going to campaign towards more of the center ground, especially on women s issues. he s been tacked for supporting planned parenthood. he thinks he can turn that into an advantage in the general election. he is pro-life. but in the past he was pro-choice. expect to hear more muddying of that issue if trump is the nominee. he does think on issues. he actually present him receive as the women s causes that have traditionally women s causes than any candidate has in the last 30 years. the question is whether the things he says and tweets about women and things like this week with ted cruz and with heidi cruz, whether or not that is going to overwhelm any policy issues. yeah. i agree with you on the wifdz thing. that was so ridiculous. the truth is we also should point out we don t know where of hillary clinton goes. we don t know what happens in term of her likability there. that s right. so all of the polls are assuming she is going to be the nominee and the conventional wisdom may be right she can be the nominee. but she has been has weaknesses and vulnerabilities of her own. her negatives. we talked about her unfavorables, very, very high. she has to make it through the fbi prime airy. let s assume she is the nominee and donald trump is the nominee, he can absolutely beat her. i think he can he, unlike the other republican candidates, can actually build a different kind of coalition that can put different kinds of states in play. maybe even new york, maybe even california. you might be able to track a significant number of black voters. i agree with jerry and ed about women. he does have an issue there. he is going to have to lock down the base. and fix the issue that he has with women. and then he might be unstoppable. these are national polls. we don t want a national campaign. we run a state by state campaign which is very, very close. at the end of the day, the same states we won last time, we probably won again with him. then you have to add the four or five that are critical, ohio, florida, virginia, north carolina, and midwest, the michigans and what have you. i don t think california or new york are going to ever get in our column. at the end of the day, he ll attract different voters. trump could take new york. maybe. the problem is there is a five million vote margin for obama last time that came out of the two states. the truth of the matter is these national polls are not relevant other than the fact they both have extremely high negatives. you re going to have the most negative campaign you ve ever seen. it is going to be nuclear war. there is nothing but rubber left on the ground from both parties. you ll have every democratic strategist digging stuff up on him and we ll do the same to her. at the end of the day, you ll have two of the most unpopular people going into the game and whoever wins this thing is going to be barely standing. you said she s got a problem he has a problem, trump has a problem with women. he has a problem with hispanics, right? and which president has won the election or candidate won an election without the hispanic vote? you certainly got to do hispanics are a growing share of the electorate. george w. bush, 44% of the hispanic vote. i think mitt romney was down in the 20s in 2012. now you can win an election. mitt romney got the same proportion of the white vote that ronald reagan got and lost significantly, ronald reagan won in a landslide, because the nature of the electorate changed. you can win without getting more than mitt romney got in the hispanic vote but you have to get a huge proportion of the white vote. maybe trump can do. that maybe he can get 75% of the white vote. it s not impossible. never happened and my sense is there are still white democrats that participate in the process. that s the only place he can go. it s a very, very tough, tough thing to get through. i would just say, all of this is true. don t underestimate donald trump. this is the first time politician. he has never run for anything before in his life. he s doing this for the first time essentially alone. and he s taking incoming from all sides, republican establishment, other republican candidates, president obama, hillary clinton, the press, the media and the man is still standing. surprising everybody. still to come, the one thing to watch in the week ahead in sunday morning futures next. score, thanks to experian.com. kaboom. get your credit swagger on. go to experian.com. become a member of experian credit tracker and take charge of your score. we ship everything you atcan imagine.n, and everything we ship has something in common. whether it s expedited overnight. .or shipped around the globe, .it s handled by od employees who know that delivering freight. .means delivering promises. od. helping the world keep promises. back with our panel. what are you looking at? we have a little break on the plik politics for a while. it will be nice to sit back and watch it. i agree. a quiet week ahead given that it is the week after easter. i think everybody needs and deserves a breather for a week. right. speaking about the wisconsin prime aury which comes on april 5th, watch for the sitting governor scott walker who exited the republican race and the speaker of the house, paul ryan, both of whom are from wisconsin, to deliver endorsements. we ll see about that. it was interesting to see jeb bush endorse ted cruz, actually. jerry? friday, first friday of the month which for economic nerves is the most exciting day of every month. it s the day the employment department, the labor department releases the jobs numbers. we ll see whether or not this recent run of strong jobs growth the united states has had is continuing. if it is, whether or not the federal reserve will raise interest rates later in the month which is becoming a possibility. they already said they re not going to raise interest rates that much this year. we could see another quarter point interest rate increase in april. depending on what happens on friday. because it feels like things are getting better economically, yes? the kpeconomy is rumbling al at not an impressive pace. the question is the fed wands to get policy back to some kind of towards normalcy. it is below where interest rates twhob stage. they want to push interest rates higher. friday may give them an sunlt. thank you. always a pleasure. happy easter. wishing everybody a happy east easter, by the way. thank you so much for joining me. i ll be back tomorrow morning on mornings with maria on the fox business network. have a beautiful holiday, everybody. on our buzz meter, the republican contest heads straight into the gutter. first by degenerating into a war over the wives with donald trump angry about a nude picture of his wife making a twitter threat to expose ted cruz s wife and the senator lashing out. i don t get angry often. but you mess with my wife, you mess with my kids, that will do it every time. donald, jur a coward and leave heidi alone. cruz also denouncetion a national enquirer story as garbage. are the media wallowing in this sleazy stuff? shifting focus to tough terror talk and finger pointing. donald trump and