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crews are searching some 2000 burnt businesses and homes but, thejob is not yet 50% complete. while the exact cause of the wildfires is being investigated mounting evidence shows downed powerlines could have played a role. here's the bbc'sjohn sudworth. maui's fight continues. this pilot, hovering above a swimming pool. now being used to douse the flames further down the hill. these homes, some distance from the destroyed coastal town of lahaina, are in the centre of the island where, last week, just before the fires, the cameras at this bird sanctuary captured a bright flash. staff believe it is a tree falling on a powerline. shortly afterwards, flames can be seen in the forest. ross hart saw something similar before his home burned down. we could hear some trees falling here and there in the distance. one big one fell here on the bridge and it knocked over
but in the long-term, this is going to be a negative thing. this is a bad moment for the country, of course, but certainly for donald trump. and as you guys were talking about the attorneys, it just strikes me the fact that, you know, the crime fraud exception was found to be to meet that bar, and then on top of that, i don't know that doj would move a case to a less optimal venue if they didn't think that they had a very strong case. so it really raises the trump team, they've been saying well, you guys did all of these things because your case is so weak. i don't think that's what this evidence shows. >> instead they can avoid them trying to move the venue later on once they already had the ball rolling. anderson, back to you. >> kaitlan, thanks. joining us van jones and alice stewart from the lefted ed respectively. and robert ray, who served as counsel to the former trump
that the doj would move a case or less optimal venue if they didn't think that they had a very strong case. so, it really just raises -- the trump team, they've been saying, well, you guys did all these things because you're cases a week. i don't think that's really what this evidence shows. >> yeah, and -- said they can avoid them trying to move the venue later on once this visit -- anderson back to you? >> thanks, caitlin. collins joining our panel now, van jones and alan stewart, from the left and right respectively. also former white house and whitewater independent counsel robert gray, who served as the counsel to former president in the first trump impeachment. before we go to conversation i, want to show you a clip taken from the longer post from the former president just, posted on truth social. >> it's called election interference. they're trying to destroy our reputation, so that they can win election. that's just as bad as any of the other things that have been done over the last number of years. i'm an innocent man.
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mentioned, under the supreme court's decision in new york times versus sullivan. that's an important decision. it plays a very critical role in our democracy by ensuring that the press and others can speak critically of the government and report on newsworthy events, including the president's big lie. but there is a limit to it, and i think that's what this evidence shows. >> there is also, you see, david, the contempt for trump. they are all furious. they hate him. he's a destroyer. you see tucker saying we're opportunity we've got a lot to show for it because admitting what a disaster it is been is too tough to digest. but come on, there isn't really an upside to trump. so i see this on air of course but but what is their attitude toward the reviewer, which they talk about respecting, but instead what comes across here is this unbearable to face sydney's, that if he caught anyone else doing this that you
in this latest batch of documents, some of which have been covered before, you see further evidence of this behind the scenes discussion among fox news hosts an executives and producers saying that they didn't believe the claims of sydney powell and rudy giuliani. and yet they continued to air them for weeks and to give them an essentially uncritical platform. and dominion has really assembled an impressively and strong amount of evidence demonstrating that at the time that fox was airing the claims of rudy giuliani and sidney powell and others, it knew that those statements were false and thus had actual malice, as you mentioned, under the supreme court's decision in new york times versus sullivan. that's an important decision. it plays a very critical role in our democracy by ensuring that the press and others can speak critically of the government and report on newsworthy events, including the president's big lie. but there is a limit to it, and i think that's what this evidence shows. >> there is also, you see, david, the contempt for trump.
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it's about the fact that the irs, and paying taxes, is one of the fundamental things that we, a citizens, are responsible for doing. and, no one is above that responsibility, especially the president of the united states. which became clear, and evident in this process, not only to the irs failed to do its job but now it appears that the former president also evaded paying his share of taxes. this is the underlying issue but i really want to focus on, because why is it fair for a nurse in my district, or a teacher to pay their share, in order to fund health care or education, or job training programs that we all need. but wealthy people, big corporations don't pay their share? that is what this evidence shows and why it was so important that the irs do its
of violent crimes fueled by gun violence. i am the candidate who's willing to take on the nra and address gun violence. we've been leading with evidence, doing what's affective, the data shows, evidence shows, the studies show that the best way to determine crime and stop individual committing a crime in the first place, it's for that person to believe that they're going to be quiet if they commit the crime. we need to arrest people. stop them from harming others, stop them from harming property, when it's occurring. and make sure there is accountability, and it's appropriate proportion inform consistent with an relation to the crime that's being committed. on the public safety candidate in this race, we're getting the job done every day, and all the ways i mentioned. that's why i have the support -- and national law enforcement groups. and we're also while we pursue safety for californians were also pursuing fairness for our system, for californians as well. we need to be ambitious enough