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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130507:00:49:00

director at ebay. i want to begin with you on the politics of this. how have we come to the moment when the senate votes overwhelmingly in a bipartisan fashion for a bill that will mean more taxes are paid by americans? i thought this was an anathema, what is going on? >> you notice they're not making a huge stink about it. >> not a lot of big celebratory press releases flooding my inbox right now. >> campaign cash is what sets the agenda on capitol hill. ideally you would want congress to address the issues that are most pressing to the american public. whether it is the unemployment rate, syria, whatever the public sends its representatives to congress to debate and legislate on, you would think, you would hope that would be what they would do. that's not actually what happens in washington. the people that set the agenda are the ones that pay the bills. and so this need for campaign

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130507:03:54:00

the internet sales tax bill passed in the senate today. reaction to the vote tells you a lot about the reality of washington lobbying. brian bieron of ebay. ebay worked hard to defeat this legislation. they even sent out e-mails to customers trying to rally customer base. big question for you is, look, everybody has got to pay sales tax when buying in a physical location. the technology exists. when i order something, they know they're shipping it to my address in new york, new york is a sales tax, shouldn't we just level the playing field and have everybody paying taxes? why have this imaginary distinction between, you know, the places that exist on the internet and the places that have to, you know, maintain a storefront? >> i totally agree, chris. we're against all imaginary distinctions. the ebay position on this is actually really clear.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130507:00:48:00

fair. >> i urge the senate not to move forward on the marketplace fairness act. >> sovereignty of our states is significantly eroded. >> could seriously harm america's small businesses. >> unleashes all the nation's tax collectors on small internet businesses. >> urge you to vote against this motion. ♪ >> now, if you haven't been paying attention to this battle, you may be a little confused and that would be fair because your usual rules of thumb likely will not apply. more than 20 republicans voted for the bill, which really makes you wonder, but on other hand, grover norquist hates it. so then is this in the final analysis actually good legislation? joining me now, ryan grimm, washington bureau chief for the huffington post, michelle bernstein from the national retail federation, acts as principle for tax policy matters, and brian buron, senior

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130507:00:56:00

before this thing really moves. >> michelle what is your response to that? there has been a lot of lobbying about how big the car battle will be for the small businesses, which is a favorite washington undertaking. what is your response to brian? >> well, here's my concern. the problem is that we have brick and mortar stores, small businesses, in every community. and those people have to collect taxes on the first dollar that they receive. and if there is a very large small business exemption for remote sellers that is also not permitted for brick and mortar sellers, then those small businesses are still at a competitive disadvantage. and they cannot compete with remote sellers that do not have to pay taxes. they have that problem now. and we want have fixed the problem if we don't address it. i think the way to address it for the remote sellers that brian is talking about that are

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130507:03:46:00

collect sales tax on purchases made on the internet and puts a huge amount of money at play. in 2012, internet sales totaled almost $226 billion, up nearly 16% from just 2011. the bill's proponents argue it will raise an additional $23 billion in tax revenues for states and end the unfair competitive advantage internet companies have by being able to sell the same products as brick and mortar stores, without the taxes. this bill passing the senate is important for a number of reasons, not just because if you're watching the show right now chances are you ordered something online recently. but also because any time there is a vote in the senate, not any vote, but a tax vote, a vote that will increase the amount of taxes you pay, that passes the senate with this type of majority, your ears should patrick up because something very, very strange just happened. what happened is that we witnessed one of those rare moments, when you get to open up the body and see how washington actually works with none of the ideological or partisan covering

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130507:07:54:00

the internet sales tax bill passed in the senate today. reaction to the vote tells you a lot about the reality of washington lobbying. brian bieron of ebay. ebay worked hard to defeat this legislation. they even sent out e-mails to customers trying to rally customer base. big question for you is, look, everybody has got to pay sales tax when buying in a physical location. the technology exists. when i order something, they know they're shipping it to my address in new york, new york is a sales tax, shouldn't we just level the playing field and have everybody paying taxes? why have this imaginary distinction between, you know, the places that exist on the internet and the places that have to, you know, maintain a storefront? >> i totally agree, chris. we're against all imaginary distinctions. the ebay position on this is actually really clear. and that is that it is the problem with this bill is that it is unbalanced right now. it treats very, very small businesses the same way that we treat multibillion dollar retailers.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130507:07:48:00

>> could seriously harm america's small businesses. >> unleashes all the nation's tax collectors on small internet businesses. >> urge you to vote against this motion. ♪ >> now, if you haven't been paying attention to this battle, you may be a little confused and that would be fair because your usual rules of thumb likely will not apply. more than 20 republicans voted for the bill, which really makes you wonder, but on other hand, grover norquist hates it. so then is this in the final analysis actually good legislation? joining me now, ryan grim, washington bureau chief for the huffington post, rachelle bernstein from the national retail federation, acts as principle for tax policy matters, and brian bieron, senior director at ebay. i want to begin with you on the politics of this. how have we come to the moment when the senate votes overwhelmingly in a bipartisan fashion for a bill that will

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130507:00:39:00

i did? when visa signature asked everybody what upgraded experiences really mattered... you suggested luxury car service instead of "strength training with patrick willis." come on todd! flap them chicken wings. [ grunts ] well, i travel a lot and umm... [ male announcer ] at visa signature, every upgraded experience comes from listening to our cardholders. visa signature. your idea of what a card should be. if there is a bill proposing new taxes, chances are grover norquist is against it. a new tax bill has norquist shoulder to shoulder with liberal democrats like senator ron widen. i'll tell you what happens when ideology takes a back seat to the reality of washington politics. first, the three awesomest things on the internet today.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130507:03:56:00

will be for the small businesses, which is a favorite washington undertaking. what is your response to brian? >> well, here's my concern. the problem is that we have brick and mortar stores, small businesses, in every community. and those people have to collect taxes on the first dollar that they receive. and if there is a very large small business exemption for remote sellers that is also not permitted for brick and mortar sellers, then those small businesses are still at a competitive disadvantage. and they cannot compete with remote sellers that do not have to pay taxes. they have that problem now. and we want have fixed the problem if we don't address it. i think the way to address it for the remote sellers that brian is talking about that are small is through simplifications

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130507:00:47:00

patrick up because something very, very strange just happened. what happened is that we witnessed one of those rare moments, when you get to open up the body and see how washington actually works with none of the ideological or partisan covering that people are there fighting over ideas. this was not a fight over ideas this was one collision of interests fighting against another collision of interests. on the one side, you have republican senators mike ensy and john thune leading the fight alongside democrats and big box retailers like walmart and target. on the other side, senators from states without sales tax like democrats ron widen and max baucus and kelly ayotte, fighting against the tax with the internet. with internet commerce giants ebay and overstock. this bill has so thoroughly jumbled political alliances that those democratic opponents made their way into a video proud by the heritage foundation. >> the market place fairness act, but it is anything but

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