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from the ministry of defense, one that is crucially important to the kremlin. especially given recent rumors of the health of lukashenko. do the deputies are thin on the pitch details. >> what role can you see it goni prigozhin taking in belarus? >> [speaking non-english] if, so he remains a powerful leader, a violent man. prigozhin is not the type to bow out quietly. it does not feel like this is his final act. sky news, moscow. >> our thanks to diana magnay for that report. more american voices after this quick break. at the top of the hour, do not miss a special hour of a man. followed by special weekends
ukraine. he needs him for his own protection. he also needs him to keep prigozhin's troops in line. putin can't imagine what would happen if prigozhin were arrested or disappeared. what would happen to the tens of thousands of men who are actively serving and prigozhin's private army? hundreds of thousands who served in the army in the past. so, this is really, putin might be better off if he could get rid of him. it might be too risky of a proposition. >> there are many questions that remain in this moment. i appreciate all the asterisks you point on every answer. marcia gessen, as always, thank you for your time. next, how moscow is moving or the rebellion. stay with us. wh itus
>> yevgeny prigozhin, presumably en route to belarus waved off the chairs and last night. nothing new on the queue for the commander-in-chief, just some pre-recorded insight into his evening retain. [speaking non-english] >> [speaking non-english] >> as for the top military brass, the support of the targets of this coup, not a whisper. ceci enforces who promised to stand with putin arriving late to the scene. guarding rather aimlessly despite the triumphant motion and empty motorway breads. red square was still shot. and anti-terror precaution.
it is hard to talk about what happened this past weekend. it went through several iterations. there is the first iteration that was a mutiny, and then it briefly looked like a coup, and then it looked like an act of terrorism that had succeeded. the negotiations gave the terrorist and chief a safe getaway. he went to belarus and he found something in exchange. what he was probably promised was the removal -- of on the one hand, it weakens putin to have given into prigozhin. on the other hand, the fact that the russian army could tolerate that kind of uprising, what we are looking at now on the screen is the way people who are greeting people, prigozhin's troops, the seat of the military district of russia, that does not show to be a
masha, about a week before prigozhin lost to his rebellion, you wrote a dispute between the wagner group leader and putin, quote, created a brief lesion of twice. an inkling of politics. tell us more about that. how precarious this moment is for putin. >> so, the last 23 years, putin has been in power for 23 years. he has been building a monopoly on power, i monopoly on pinnacle action, a monopoly on violence. it's only ground that the degree of this monopoly is a monopoly in that way. this is the first time that his monopoly on political action and his monopoly on violence has been challenged. what i was writing about a couple of weeks ago it was that prigozhin who led the mutiny this weekend was having a very
trusted and -- so, putin is really stuck. it's no wonder that we haven't seen we -- don't know it's going to happen. >> do you foresee prigozhin to be safe? >> i don't know. i think this is another impossible situation for putin. on the one hand, it is observe to allow someone like prigozhin too continue to live in russia, in belarus, even more in belarus than in russia. and ballerinas there is the risk of him forming an alliance with a notorious -- or else. on the other, hand putin needs prigozhin. putin needs prigozhin and
is the reason that putin has had the stability that he's had is that his truly paranoid in a way that is safe for a dictator. that's what keeps them secure. generally, he sees a greater threat than he is in fact facing. so, it's not at all surprising that we -- he gave an address. he called on prigozhin's arrest. he called him a traitor. and then he disappeared pierre from the radar. his plane took off from moscow and disappeared. from the radar and's he is somewhere in hiding and one of the many underground bunkers that he has around the country. the reason we haven't seen is because it's more interesting. because prigozhin was demanding that putin -- it is probably -- what has been promised in the peace agreement.
for all the signs of normality, people still seem unnerved. >> the situation was so bad, it looked like people in the government didn't to know what they have to do. >> [speaking non-english] >> it's not changing yet. >> in the space of 24 hours vladimir putin has taken a major hit to his authority. who knows where the unraveling may lead. it is clear that the president anti-security forces managed to turn a blind eye to the dangers that a dangerous man represented both to them and to russia. yevgeny prigozhin in belarus is hardly out of sight or out of mind. >> unless he was dispatched there for a reason, a separate sphere of military authority