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terms of shows abuse of office. it would be good to know you're trying to abuse it. thank you for laying out the legality. isikoff, thank you for helping me understand. big brother as always. you helped us understand the workings of the process from someone who's been in it it. the host of declassified he has in the contract i'm supposed to call him big brother rogers. i don't know how i feel about it. you can tweet him. 11:00 p.m. eastern tonight. cnn only. declassified worth the watch. all right. impeachment hearings, we have seen them. this isn't the first time they have been on tv. the time they were most impressive was without question nixon and water gate. it was so different. we have never seen a president defend himself the way this president does because there's never been twitter and this
i want to go out front now to the former assistant fbi director greg brower. gop committee counsel sophia nelson and our chief investigative correspondent for yahoo news, isikoff, and rick santorum who voted to remove clinton from office during the mock trial. president trump has repeatedly discussed firing his own pick, his own hand-picked ig for the intelligence committee michael atkinson because atkinson determined the whistle-blower's complaint was credible and urgent. the president apparently believes he's disloyal and trying to sabotage his presidency. what does this tell you? >> well, it concerns me greatly, erin, as a former federal inspector general myself. this inspector general like all inspector generals was doing his
tell us ways you're part of the obama deep state conspiracy designed to get rid of trump ten years ago before we knew he was going to run. there were two hearings on wednesday. the first is the judiciary committee. then they take a break. they'll wipe the chairs down and they bring in the intelligence committee which will go after the issue of trump and russia. >> but you think neal's questions are good. >> those are good for the opening. i do think and this is my bias, i wrote a book on this with isikoff, that focusing overly on the obstruction issue as opposed to trump having played foot picturesie with russia and denying the attack and making it easier for russia, that to me is the bigger deal in a lot of ways. and to the american public, if you can't be convince them of that being a big deal, whether he obstructed the investigation is not going to be i think as important. it is important to us. we care about these things. the big story is russia attacked. he helped, he benefited.
steele himself did not give this as isikoff and i report in our book, give this information to the fbi really until the fall of 2016 months into the russia investigation. so none of it holds up. yet we hear this time and time again, and you get the breitbart crowd and daily caller and everybody else out there banking on this investigation by the inspector general, but also banking on yet another investigation that bill barr, who is a little bit more politically minded here, is also trying to mount in the same way, all to prove that somehow this russian investigation was cooked up from the beginning and distracting us from the key issue, russia attacked the u.s. election, and donald trump and his campaign helped it along, encouraged it and benefitted from it. >> all right, david corn, thank you very much. >> thank you, chris. what happened inside the courtroom today is next.
face-to-face. he gets all second hand information. he takes that dossier. they help launch an investigation. and then when it wasn't moving, he shows up in america and starts giving the information to press people like corn and isikoff. and russian roulette in such detail you wonder i know they are good reporters but no one is this good this quick who knew that much information now there it's being unwound and pushing back in every way. trey gowdy new a lot when he was questioning brennan last year. listen to. this do you know who commissioned the steele dossier? >> i don't. >> did the cia rely on it? >> no. >> why not? >> because we didn't. it wasn't part of the corpus of intelligence information that we had. it was not in any way used as a basis for the intelligence community assessment that was done. >> we are going to find that
by the governor's security guard, and he proceeded to make sexual advances to her. >> it's wrong that a woman can't work in the workplace and be harassed by a figure that high. and it's just humiliating, what he did to me. >> and it drew a lot of skepticism, because paula jones would not explicitly say what it was that went on. >> the event did not get the media attention its organizers had hoped for. >> although, people at the cpac conference were billing this as a big-news, startling disclosure, the whole setting seemed a bit untoward. clearly being put on by the president's political enemies. she was paraded out there in ways that were a bit unseemly. >> but isikoff decided the story was worth investigating a bit more. >> she was saying something
rosenstein wearing a wire before rosen stein's job is in jeopardy again? >> at this point, if matt whitaker is the acting attorney general, and we've had conflicts reports who is overseeing the russia investigation, he's overseeing the russia investigation, so to president trump, he's eliminated the threat, so to speak. that concerns me from a rule of law perspective. a lot of reporting suggested that the president and whitaker have plotted for whitaker to take over this investigation, and whitaker, as we know, has already prejudged it. and we're still waiting to see where is this ethics opinion that whitaker apparently asked for. because i don't think there's any ethics lawyer at the justice department who can say that whitaker is not conflicted based on his prior -- in the judgments of the investigation. >> there was some reporting that isikoff was having based -- they some sources saying people around mueller were saying they were were trying to wrap things up. given what we saw in the filing
on his prior -- in the investigation. >> there was some reporting that isikoff was having based -- they were trying to wrap things up. given what we saw in the filing earlier this week, dpigiven tha we're expecting tomorrow on manafort and cohen, do you believe that this investigation is wrapping up, or do you think there's a long way to go still? >> if you're looking at this as a traditional bottom up investigation, it looks like it's reaching its end, because it started with michael flynn and george papadopoulos as the earliest people to be indicted. and then paul manmanafort, and michael cohen, and you have to think if there are other members of the president's inner family circle who are exposed, that that would be what is coming next. but anderson, i don't think a
produced in his report, it talked about i think, 13 different people at the fbi talking to one reporter. so we know this kate was going on, leaking things like crazy crazy, talking to the press of the time instead of focusing on doing their job. i can't get into the details but, yeah, remember, chairman noon as a part of this memo, he talks about the yahoo news story that mr. isikoff wrote, they used that when they went to the fisa court to buttress the argument about the dossier into get a warrant. again, stuff you are never supposed to do. but these guys did at. >> shannon: congressman matt gaetz had this to say about now potential conflicts between what you guys have heard from witnesses about what started the entire russia investigation. here's what the congressman sai said. >> in the first hour of testimony, it became very clear that there are a number of factual conflicts, either bruce ohr is lying or glenn simpson is lying. another circumstance, either bruce ohr is lying or lisa page is lying.
white house homeland security director said today that trump's decision to eliminate the jock of the cyber security chief in april, he tells isikoff that was a dangerous decision. he said it leaves no one, quote, minding the store when it comes to stopping efforts by foreign adversaries to hack into the mid materials like they did in the election if 2016. so on the issue of security from this election, from which we're 100 days out, a lot of people have been throwing red flags about this. dan coats gave this on the us in speech. he said about cyber attacks in the upcoming mid-term election, he said the warning lights are blinking red. he said he was choosing that language because it was then language used by craft george tenet to warn about the