instant. people scrambling for their lives as cass expected the streets. the attack and folded within minutes and by the time it was over at least seven innocent people were dead, 48 injured. that s after a band iran down a crowd of pedestrians on london bridge. followed by multiple stabbing attacks in a nearby restaurant district. finally, the three attackers were shot and killed by police. witnesses described the chaos. two armed came out and shot rang out. there s a question then. i saw loads of people run away from the market and you ll see people lying on the ground and a taxi driver had his window down and was shouting at people to run. we iran for a hundred meters and there was a quite intense gunfire. i hid in a restaurant basement. bill: as the investigation unfolds police remain barricaded in the area of london bridge and in borough market where the attackers jumped out of the van nice. prime minister is calling for a crackdown in her country. since the emergence from terrorism our country has made significant progress in disrupting plot and protecting the public but it is time to say enough is enough. everybody needs to go about their life as they normally would. our society should continue to function in accordance with our values but when it comes to taking on extremism and terrorism things need to change. shannon: president trump quickly weighing in on twitter. whatever the united states can do to help in london, in the uk, we will be there. we are with you. god bless five people are working the story at home and overseas. catherine harris watching the response from washington. david lee muller live in london and let s start with you. what more do we know about these killers at this hour? most significantly, there was a press conference in london and police officials said there were only three perpetrators, all three of the perpetrators were killed but it is possible that they may have had some type of help. it s not entirely clear at this hour. one of the greatest clues here might be the white man, rented a white van that the attackers were using. we have a still frame of this man, you can get a pretty good idea of what it looked like. at this point, the vehicle, this is after it had mowed down a number of restaurants on the london bridge. it came to a rest after it jumped a curb and it appears to be up against delightful here. according to authorities, it was at this point that the men inside the van exited and began to stab anyone insight witnesses say they will never forget before. [inaudible] we are about to cross the street when the white man was and i said to my friend something is not right, there s something not right here. people were running about and screaming and shouting. reporter: at this hour, though, we can still see people coming by the location here just a short distance from london bridge. where the stabbings take place they are bringing flowers and other items in a makeshift memorial. one man who lives and works in this neighborhood came by to express how heartsick he was over what happened. he said this really brought the threat of terror home. bill: it has happened yet again, listening to scotland yard with more details about where they are in the investigation. how significant is the timing of this attack? reporter: a couple of things can be ignored here. this attack takes place just one day, less than two weeks after the bombing in manchester in which 22 people died. is there a connection that is one of things still being investigated. also, noteworthy now, perhaps more importantly is the attack that takes place some five days before borders in the uk go to the polls for a national election. london s mayor a short time ago said that people here are going to remain defiance and they will not going to let acts of terror change how they live their lives. listen. they want to stop us enjoying the freedoms that we have, enjoying meeting in the heart of london on saturday having a good time. they would stop us from voting on thursday and enjoying the democracy that we have. we can t allow them to do that. we are going to count by terrorism. five the terror threat level in this country, at this hour, remains as severe. you might recall after what happened in manchester, it was raised to critical and brought back down. despite the fact that it is not at the highest level many here remain very much on edge. bill. bill: good to have you on the ground. will be back for the next hour with the latest from london. back to shannon in washington. shannon: will check in with catherine in washington live at the various leaders. do we know who is behind the latest attack in london? reporter: no group is claiming responsibly at this hour but within minutes of the attack senior isis affiliated social media accounts put out propaganda on using vehicles as weapons, also putting more violence. it s not clear from our reporting whether the isis were opportunistic or the terror group actually played a role. this morning us and uk intelligence are focused on the suspects and whether they acted alone or whether the network behind it. british security forces say early indications suggest the attacks may have been pull together as a short notice but on fox news sunday , the senate intelligence committee said the attack a pattern. we think other groups are looking at the war advanced kind of attacks and clearly, this is from all directions. isis tends to take credit for the things that you can steal a truck, get your van, driving a car, terrorized people with very little planning or backup. shannon: the british by minister compared the police have ported five credible plot since the march attack on westminster bridge in london about a mile from last night attack. further, david the miller s point, this decision to lower the threat level recently has endless questioning whether there was in fact, an intelligence failure in this case. shannon: catherine, what about us here in the us. how does it impact our operations and outlook on terror of the? at this time they had no information to indicate a specific credible threat to the united states. secretary kelly told fox news last night that he worries that we are quote right around the corner from having a similar attack but for the efforts of dhs and law enforcement agenci agencies. counterterrorism analyst are flagging a message posted to pro isis channeled on telegram saturday calling for lone wolf path during the holy month of ramadan but again there is no evidence yet, that they are connected. a lot of that will known from the forensic review of the suspects electronics. shannon: thank you so much. bill: more perspective now the national security and foreign affairs is happen yet again. thank you for your time today. trying to figure out together. what is your hunch as he tried to piece it together? the statement made by prime minister theresa may in which she said we will continue to enjoy our freedoms but something has to change. that is in contrast with a lot of the political establishment statements that had nothing to change. my question is what it says it should change patrick the public in britain and even here in america is asking what is it that we can do when we encounter these situations more and more will come. there needs to be a duty by government on both sides of the atlantic to start addressing the public on what to do and more than that, the second one, is that betting. the betting so far is not working or is working partially. what kind of new bedding that we need to have? we need to deter the next wave to come. bill: i thought her statement was a frank. i thought it was tough. do you believe the actions of her government will follow on the words of her dress today. her statement was good also because she s using the terminology that we use which is islamic ideological muslim threats. we are there now. the front of the next question will be what is the state of affairs? how many of these jihadists are on british soil or on american soil second, what can we do to stop more blood to stop the bleeding, here comes the discussion of it should be banned or not thirdly and most widely in this case, we need to make sure that authorities on both sides of the atlantic are able to go after that networks that are in citing every time we arrest them we look at what networks were backing them but who isn t inciting them and indoctrinating them. bill: hear something i m trying to figure out. we had three attacks in england in three months. when you think about france, last year, and that deadly year you had refrigerated talk in nice that covered killed it on bastille day and the other attack in paris and it was thought that france was a target then because of its ongoing contribution to try to wipe out isis in syria and iraq, if you follow that logic then what s the logic for england being the target now? it s the same. uk, france, nato, and of course the united states, our arab partners. we are all engaged in one thing that is tragic to the jihadist to bring down the caliphate. as we are shrinking the caliphate but after bit and i think were going slow, we need to go faster. we will actually expect that whatever that caliphate has in terms of branches or supporters around the world including britain and france they ll use them. they will actually give them the guidelines, use any weapon you can. it s not about studying the weapon of the knife or the car or the bomb if anything they can do to try to delay us. bill: is ramadan been mentioned about four times in the first ten minutes here. do you think this has a connection? especially when you consider the amount of devastation that occurred during ramadan last year. i don t think ramadan triggers things. the jihadist use ramadan and they will use anything they can including weaponization of an ideology and use of new means and including the emotionally charged month of ramadan to recruit home their own people. they always ask them questions here in france or britain how large is that will respect five roy blunt was on fox news sunday at we heard a comment from him a moment ago. he was also asked by chris wallace about the travel ban and he said the following. listen here. my view was the president does have, certainly, the right to put in place extreme betting and of course it s been four months since they needed four months to put that in place. you can do that without a travel and in his making the point that it s been four months. bill: was originally a 90 day ban on those six-seven countries, originally. this suggests that the white house could have completed its mission already given the time has expired. what you think about that? i m not sure. i don t have the information about why 90 days, six months. is it based on what exactly but what i can see is that if we had a strategic vetting system not overnight from the last election but from the last eight-ten years, this whole war started on 911, 15 years ago. if we had a vetting system we might not need a travel ban. the ban is to stop the incoming of potential jihadist, not of the communities but the jihadist that would penetrate until we find a way for a better vetting. we don t have the vetting and therefore, the band has not also been implied. we need a new strategy for both vetting and band five you know as well as anyone. thank you for your insight. thank you, sir. back to shannon. shannon: davis decided the show must go on. ariana conde will take off her benefit concert in manchester, england even in the wake of leslie s attack in the heart of london. the concert will raise money for the victims of the victims two weeks ago. twenty-two people were killed. conde will be justin bieber, coldplay, frau williams and katie perry are among the performers that will take the stage. it is a brave thing and it will send a clear message as they stand up there five i think you re right about that. you have to consider that they were just thinking about the security and getting this thing underway and now they re dealing with the another hit just to the southeast. we ll see how it goes in there for them for standing up. that was one of three semi things. she said enough is enough but were not to stop living so were just watching that. also, the people of england are stunned and then wake up the next era terrorist attack. what actions are being taken care of here at home cushman lindsey graham has been tight on this from day one. we ll talk to him live a bit later about the show. shannon: performer congressman protected the rise of terrorism more than a year ago he does live is the coverage of the london terror attacks continues on america s newsroom. they were stabbing everybody and whoever was nearing. they iran into bars and restaurants, stabbing everybody. you could spend the next few days weeding through w2s, pay stubs and bank statements to refinance your home. or you could push that button. 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a year ago we did an analysis of the investigative project on terrorism and we saw an increase in over 700% in the locality, the number of people would be killed because of the result of a radical jihadist attack from around 3200 people in 21,122,015 and that number had increased to 27000. from 320,227,005 it failed states in the middle east, iraq, syria, yemen, and afghanistan and the violence was concentrated but it was starting to spread into africa and asia and europe. clearly, it was identified as a fertile ground in europe. radical jihadist out of libya and syria were in the soft underbelly into europe. it was a prime target. bill: it was a physical movement then? it wasn t just internet talk that you get in much of the time? our apologies there. hang with us. pete hoekstra the republican from michigan, if you get the line reestablished, let me know. it s a very important stuff when we think about the study and what he went to find. this is one of his conclusions. put it on the screen. in europe he talks about the increase of tax over the next 18-24 months, he also talks about in africa the terror expanding geographically all according to the study they were doing a year ago. in the middle east they will target jordan, saudi arabia and they may have caught them after a moment ago. can you put that mac back up your if we bring the former congressman into the conversation again when you look at this map the thing that is striking to me is what s happening in western europe it really is. the policies that western europe has had in place for the last 20 years, mass immigration, no vetting of the people coming in, and in many cases, welcoming jihadist into their countries. especially into the uk. then you see a lack of assimilation and then the immigration, migration in the last 24-36 months of people coming from libya, syria with very little to no vetting, experienced fighters, jihadists and you know, this is the cesspool that is creating this environment in europe now that is breeding these kind of attacks. our government officials saw it coming, this is not brain surgery, they saw it coming i m not sure they reacted strong enough and clearly they had not prepared the public for what s happening there today five what should be done and said that the case? this is unfortunate. sir, my apologies. pete we have one line with your studio in grand rapids, michigan and you cannot hear us. our apologies to our viewers at home. in the meantime, let s look at the view here in central london. shannon, you read event last night where you talk homeland security secretary about this and how it traveled here and et cetera but what did you gain from that conversation? shannon: the first thing they said was lamenting the fact that in his brief time as a security secretary here in the us that in just four months time this would be his fourth or fifth call to a counterpart in the uk because of what they re facing there. he said the people in dhs and our law enforcement agencies are working around the clock just as they are there in great britain but they said we are quotes around the corner from this kind of thing happening here in the us if we don t remain vigilant. i asked him the question that general mattis, sacramento got last week about what keeps you up at night and he essentially said nothing, i keep people up at night what secretary kelly to me last night was that i don t have bombs in drums like secretary mattis does so he said i am tossing and turning all night thinking about these things because they are relentless when it comes to aviation and only geography has stopped a lot of this from getting to our shores. he also had a ton of praise for people at dhs. his decade-long marine and he said when i got to dhs and took over the department i was just so beyond impressed with how were doing here in the us, with people of the homeland security department five i thought pete stress comment about the physical movement is significant. now were living in another country and if you re filled with the ideology you re waiting for the opportunity to strike. your with secretary kelly last night in real time as these events are unfolding. how is he keeping in contact with those events, shannon. shannon: was speaking at an event to celebrate fundraising for marine corps children here in the us we need a college education in ways they can be supported. so, it was an upbeat event but as soon as he took the stage he right away mentioned that were monitoring the situation and lined up at my phone had been blowing up seidman seen it but a lot of people at the event hadn t seen in real time and there was a gap in the room. it was clear when i talked to them after he left the stage that he had been fully briefed and was all for the evening. there is a time where he stepped away and was clear that he was getting minute by minute updates. i asked him if at that point he was calling it terrorism and he said, you know, we aren t calling at that but noted that london police there and officials there had absolutely made that characterization. he just wanted to stress that we need to be vigilant here because were facing the same kind of threat. bill: all signs pointed to it.as quite clear. what s next here as we thank pete hoekstra, in michigan, shannon. shannon: . tax in fremont and britain. is our strategy working perspective colonel oliver joins us about what s happening on the battlefield and how that directly impacts the western world. this is another low-tech brutal side. how do you stop a terrorist armed with trucks and knives or do they boost the case for measures like the travel ban from the white house all that still to come on a sunday edition of america s newsroom. they were confronted with was a critical situation. three armed men wearing what appeared to be suicide belts, they had already attacked and killed members of the public and had to be stopped immediately is your daughter ok? 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we are paying the price for what obama didn t do what he was president. kowtowing to the muslim brotherhood and ignoring what isis is doing is making the effort now to dislodge isis from mosul in northern iraq and district stand created an enormous refugee problem that is now affecting the rest of the world. perpetrators last night probably weren t refugees from that attack. nonetheless, they have so many of them all over europe and the uk that keeping tabs on the ones they ve actually been watching is becoming increasingly difficult. our challenge in the united states is to immediately establish a policy of no safe havens for terrorists anywhere. in other words, there s probably going to be an effort to merge isis and al qaeda. that will create an even larger global terrorist organization. if we can do that and get our allies to back us up that will seriously adversely affect the propaganda of evil, radical islam being propagated all over the world. two parts of it: no safe havens and start making sure that we don t have opportunities for them to distribute this propaganda. that will take somebody sitting down in the high-tech summit with the cell phone so can be used to establish a new wave of terror like they did for ramadan. they re using ramadan as a way to motivate people s attention. what you are seeing now is a very real prospect of that social media being used to attack us. what we need to do is implement the travel surveillance plan that president trump. shannon: it s going to the supreme court. yes, emilio after that i hope they start inputting it. we don t need more of what s happening in europe coming here. the bottom line of it is that it won t happen overnight. it will be a decade-long effort to stamp out radical islamic evil that s what it really is. make sure we can have that kind of thing happen it s happened three times in fremont and london, happened here. this is not an ultimate catastrophe for london. i remind people 77 years ago today at this very minute the last votes were pulling off dunkirk. that was a catastrophe. this is nothing like that but terror has an effect on economics, tourism, all of the things that you and i and the rest of the world wants people to do, if it continues that way, begins to degrade your entire society and you turn to bad things. start asking for much more than what ray kelly was able to do in new york with his surveillance program. it becomes intrusive on our civil liberties. thank god, we in america, have the second amendment that says a gunman, an honest man with a gun can stop a lot of bad guys was nice. that would ve helped last night. shannon: we have a lot of constitutional rights here, thankfully, that many have been eroded in recent years. hopefully we ll get a good shot in the arm of coming back. i want to ask you to about this issue of arming the kurds because in that region there s been a lot made over the years that over the last few years they couldn t get their hands on anything that would ve been helpful and now we understand weaponry s and vehicle and other things are pouring to them. how can that help or change the equation? there fighting for one thing, the homeland. there s 40 million kurds without iran, iraq, syria and all the way down into the heartland of turkey. in the end of it, that they want. helping the kurds is a good thing. they ve suffered more than any other group except perhaps christians which is a much smaller numbers out there. as a group of people, as in ethnic people, they deserve to have a homeland. i m encouraged to do is not happy in turkey. we ought not to be happy about erdogan. he allowed isis to use his territory to form back in the early 2000 s. he allowed them to move back and forth across the borders, he allowed thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of foreigners to come to turkey to get into syria to allow isis to enormous volumes starting in 2012. he s paying a price for it as well. shannon: colonel, you ve given us much thought. thank you for your service ever be with us today bill. bill: shannon, as you know, many are an edge in the uk really from another act of terrorism. there s a significant concert scheduled for manchester to begin within hours. how will the security go for that event is this the work last night of copycat attackers ambassador john bolton live with his take today. meanwhile, rehearing more of the stories from those who witnessed last night s horrific violence firsthand. the police kept the area safe and they were evacuating us they were our eyes and ears as we were looking down to avoid the shoes and wallets and blood and whatever they were keeping us safe. try new parodontax toothpaste. we always take time getting to know you, so we can ensure you hear what matters most in your world. grandpa! (vo) call, click or come in today to learn how to start your better days. miracle-ear.hear a better day. we do face a massive problem and i can t say short of hugely increased resources for security services i can t say anything else we can do. now, we could take the three have thousands who are the genuinely suspected terrorists themselves, as opposed to being linked and associated, we could rounded them all up and in turn them in prison. that is an option. bill: an option not likely to happen. john bolton former us investor to the un, fox news contributor here to talk about a lot of things now. how are you sir? good sunday afternoon to you. the one thing is that he cannot see with this hugely increased resources doing more when you consider the levels of security that have already been ramped up. what is your view on that. i think more could be done but there s a different point of issue. we ve got to get away from viewing these terror attacks is something that law enforcement needs to respond to. teresa may set it very well that this is part of a radical, islamic ideology and there are people in this country who simply don t believe that and that s fundamentally wrong but if we were facing an ideology at war as we conventionally understood it we went on treated as a law enforcement matter. we would treat it as a tack of the united states. not that these attacks are coordinated by a central authority but we need to get away from the idea that somehow this is knocking over the corner grocery store. it s very different if we put it on a war footing we could treat these differently by preventing the attacks which is where the emphasis is. bill: if went to a war footing what would be different? the idea that it s permissible to advocate violence to conspire to create the circumstances that lead to the attacks, i thank you could have a lot more vigorous investigation and using line freshman against that in this country. combined with what we ought to be doing overseas to break up the caliphate that isis now holds an radicals prevent them from getting to recruit and train and deploy these kind of attacks. bill: on the sunday show earlier today and one of the points he talked about was how the us is integrated in ways that you don t find in london, arguably and manchester and in france, marseille, and the south of france. he said the following now get your reaction to this. i believe in many ways the muslim american community is better integrated into our society and i think that s always been our secret sauce in america that you can come here first generation and if yous an, become american, but that is not has always been the case in the european countries. we are seeing, again,. how much truth is there in that respect. the melting pot is one of america s greatest strength. senator warren is creating that britain, france, all across europe they simply have no experience in really integrating immigrants into their society. let s also be clear that the melting pot is under enormous assault in this country what s called multiculturalism the idea that you don t have to change anything to be an american, you just have to be physically within the states of america borders. that s a very dangerous tendency. even if the melting pot worked perfectly, it s not a hundred% defense, and it should tell us that we need to be even more worried perhaps about people coming into the country from outside. bill: talk about teresa may and i thought it was a pretty strong statement. we believe that we are experiencing a new trend in the threat we face. as terrorism reads terrorism. as perpetrators are inspired to attack not only on the basis of carefully constructed pots after years of planning and training and not even low attackers online but by copying one another and often using the crudest of means of attack five i think in that address she said all the right things. rhetorically it was fine. you know a lot about british government. rhetorically it was fine but are they following it with action? she s in a difficult position. we are four days away from a british general election that s been punctuated by two portable terrorist attacks. after the first one in manchester she took down the threat level from the highest only to be faced with this. it s hard in the aftermath of the tragedy to talk this way but there s a huge unknown now factoring in do britons really feel concerned enough about this to factor into their vote on thursday i think they will but we don t know how it will come out in her favor or in the opposition favor. bill: do you think they have a firmer grasp of you security. i think that labour party has zero credibility on national security. bill: which means theresa may wins in five days. yes, except that she was home secretary for seven-eight years and responsible for homeland security there and we ve seen these two attacks, we saw the attack on parliament come across the bridge there. one could well ask if she is the expert, how come these attacks have happened but she has a vulnerability and that s why i think this tragedy coming so close to the election really throws it up in the air. bill: 45 minutes ago, while the was with us and your member the tax in france, nice, paris, and it was largely thought that the reason why they were striking on their homeland was because the french government joined the france in iraq in syria. what then, if possible, what then would explain. tax in england in three months? in part, it s because you have a large indigenous population that s potentially radicalized. people who came from the subcontinent that was pakistan and bangladesh and being transportation bombings in london in 2005 killed over 50 people all done by people born and raised in the united kingdom, nativeborn citizens from pakistani dissent. it s a terrible threat, i think, when people can be born and raised in a free society, see all of the benefits of a free society and still succumb to the radical islamic ideology, still engage in terrorist act. that s why despite what we mentioned a moment ago about our melting pot, i am worried about it here too. this is a powerful, religious ideology and the secular age many people don t understand its attraction. bill: thank you, sir. watching that man on the side of the road against the lamppost it is such a simple image with a deadly vehicle that can be used countless dozens, if not hundreds, or even thousands, of times in various parts of the world. and the radicals know it. bill: thank you, sir. back to shannon in washington. shannon: three suspects last night shot and killed by police. we ll take a look at what were learning about the suspects as the investigation begins to take shape. former fbi director james connie. to testify on capitol hill. we ll get a preview of thursday s open senate hearing, coming up. most stories have two sites to them. at some point, will hear the presence side but i, frankly think we need to hear director comey s side and see what other questions we need to ask. as after a dvt blood clot,ital i sure had a lot to think about. what about the people i care about? 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we certainly expected to be lively. this is the first time comey has spoken out since he was fired last month. we know lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have a whole lot of questions and the chairman of the richard burr announced the open hearing initially off when comey first agreed to testify by alluding to one of those big questions he said in part quote i am hopeful that comey will clarify for the american people recent events that have been probably reported in the media. that last line seemingly a reference to the widely reported allegations that comey kept notes of his conversation with president trump and that in those private notes comey claimed the president asked him to it and the investigation into former national security adviser, general flynn. a member of the intelligence committee talked about some of his concerns on fox news sunday . his decisions have been, i think, highly questionable. we ll see why he was prepared for that meeting the way he was. said he had a round of board questions before he went to see the president. there is an ongoing investigation into russian interference led by a special counsel and that limits what some of comey can discuss in an open hearing like this but key topics to be inspiring, those notes and the conversation that he had with president trump. that s sparking another the executive pledged to block the testimony. that the they asked sean spicer on his daily white house briefing and they didn t give a clear answer. take a look. i m just saying i don t literally, my understanding for the date of that hearing was just that i ve not spoken to counsel yet and i don t know what they re going to respond. the time say they spoke to senior administration officials that it is unlikely that they will try to seek that because they say president trump wants this out there he wants he did do a thing done on wrong. bill: there is a worldwide investigation underway. president trump with a blunt message about getting tough. that s next my dad says our insurance doesn t have that. don t worry - i know what a lug wrench is, dad. is this a lug wrench? 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facility president trump addressing the homeless crisis not in a way you think he will. we are live in san diego as he makes a controversial call to get them off the streets president trump confirmed on twitter that his administration is revoking california the state previously been allowed to set stricter emissions standards for vehicles than the federal government has. now that s in jeopardy joining us now is anne thompson. forever people have talked about california standards and buying a car and other places for decades had to have things in change to do that. why is this happening now and what does it mean? it is happening for two reasons, the president did not like what the obama administration did you have to remember it is fuel economy standards when car makers were in bankruptcy. they re supposed to go into effect in 2026 trump wanted to roll back, california said well we can do that but we have our waiver. we ll stick to this stricter emissions standards because that s important to us those greenhouse gases that comes out of those vehicles, they re causing climate change, wildfires and mud slides and all of that. that s why it is happening the auto company do not like what the administration had done who on earth does it make sense for? please regulate us and the governor of california is saying this is better for the people in california suffering mud slides and fires, who exactly is saying that let s roll it back the guess is the oil company. more efficient cars and use less oil, 5% of the world population and we use a quarter of the world s oil output on a daily bases for transportation the trick about california, so many cars are sold in california that de facto the car companies have to deal with california s higher standards what the autoindustry does not want is two standards. one for california and one for the rest of the country. we had ford, bmw and volkswagon. the president did not like that. the justice department investigating those four automakers for antitrust violations which is kind of remarkable the idea they got together to say we ll abide by the aroun standards. they got together to do anything else, we think that s anti-trump kind of behavior this is in fact not what we thought it is for gavin newsom held a press conference and said basically this is pay back for agreeing to california s stricter standards. is california going to do anything about this? yes, they ll go to court. there is no legal bases for the president to do this california has had this ability since the clean air act in 1970. they equated out the governor of california to push for the waiver was ronald reagan they say last i checked he was a republican yes, he was they have to make the waiver request. they have done it 100 times and it has been granted 100 times. this does not have a legal leg to stand on. in the meantime, now there is a certainty. that s as what you know business hates. the question is now do they assume california is going to win and start building cars for the stricter standards or do they build based on the trump administration going to win or build two kinds of cars. they want to know what are the rules and what do i have to adhere to and what am i paying and i will figure it out here is the interesting thing. i was out in detroit what is gm trying to do? gm is trying to move the company from internal combustion engine cars cars that run on gasoline and electricity. gmc s electric cars as the way of the future. the administration president trump thinks electric cars are too expensive and says we should have cheaper internal combustion engine cars. that may be but because some days and some body is going to regulate the price of car man in this country the automakers are trying to get ahead of that and produce cars that won t be impacted by that in this country, clean air, clean water, epa regulations and creation of epa and all of these things were done or many of them were done under republican administrations at the state level and the federal level. this used to be a bipartisan issue and in fact republicans in this country have a history and taking the lead on environmental. richard nixon signed the pa into law that s right. thank you, anne as always less than 24 hours, chris hayes and i will talk to candidates on both sides of the isle should they reach the highest office in the united states. bill will will participate in this conversation. anyone in the white house listening to this, chris and i will make space. mark sanchez is welcome to come and joe walsh is welcome to come if you want to talk about climate and you are running for president, we ll talk to you this is a nationwide series, our climate is in crisis now any candidate hoping to replace president trump is going to likely make climate policy a center piece of their first term two of the biggest pieces of that puzzle are the transportation and electrical grid we are just talking about transportation, you take transport and electricity combined, this constitutes more of half of all of u.s. greenhouse gas emissions according to the epa environmental plan from various candidates addressed these two areas specifically i want to take a look at this. first, transportation, according to the epa, a typical passenger in the 4.6 metric tons of co 2 per year there were more than 193 million passenger vehicles registered in the united states. more than 890 metric tons of co 2 were admitted from passenger cars this is nearly twice of all the emissions produced by the country of brazil in 2017. for anyone who says driving cars is not the biggest contributor to co 2 emissions is just wrong. most points to this emissions. while the timeline varies between the candidates all of them pledge there will be zero emissions cars that all new cars in the united states will be zero emissions between 2030 and 2035 coming up next, our buildings, they consume energy, too, heat and cool created by our electrical power plant electricity generation was responsible for nearly 1.8 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide co 2 again, the candidates buried in their timeline, they agree we need an emission-free electrical grid by 2050 all of this is going take a lot of efforts and incentives and cooperations between political rival and cooperation between the government and industry. a new president is going to have a mix of executive orders and legislation and frankly pitch to americans and industries and in their lives about why we have to fundamentally change the way we consume and produce energy the plan to address our carbon economy are ambitious. there are some surprising groups getting behind this. joining us now republican congressman bob ingles, sorry, bob, we talked many times, i do know you are a man it is callgood to see you. good to be here with you. how much of a challenge right now because you got members of your party who are some what climate denials. it is getting much better for about a decade it was climate science. now things are turning and in part the economy is better and therefore we can focus on longer term and second, we have all had experiences with climate change and third, more groups like ours messaging on the right and helping conservatives to enter the conversation and a language they know. bob, i want to make a correction, not only i got your gender wrong, it is republican yes, energy and enterprise and entrepreneurship and solving climate change through free market principles. let s go back to a point where stephanie and i were talking about. for republicans this is reclaiming natural ground, right? you are not some weird guy on the side of the party republicans have been on the forefront of climate country what you are saying is exactly correct. reagan was the one that gave california that waiver nixon was the one that was all over the creation epa and the clean air. this is a republican aheritage we long been about conserving and keeping our resources good rather than using it this current sort of dissertation to science is not something that we conservatives are used to. we think it is an admiration that we want to return to this classic conservatism of saying you bet it is conservative to figure out the way to use market principle to fix climate change. the best way to do that is eliminate all necessities and attack all the fuels and build them into the price. watch the system deliver innovation and faster than government mandates or incentives can ever imagine. that s a level plain field is what we are looking for, we think it is bedrock and conservatism where is the root of skepticism it come in various things there were some merchants, spreading this message to make us doubt whether there is a consensus on climate change. thankfully the air is clearing on that. that gig is about up of merchants of doubt the other thing is the conversation has been mostly conducted of the language of the left what to do with less let s walk and eat bugs, okay, that s a little bit of exaggeration what we do is change that conversation so it is more about language of abundance. we have more energy and mobility and freedom. we want a claimbetter and faste cheaper. interesting way to say that if we don t talk about this sacrifices and inconveniences and opportunities to do the right thing and be at the front end of it that would be neat they are small and shrinking portion proportion many of whom will be conservatives who think of the change that s necessarily as either not urgent or too expensive for them to be vofr involved in. what we need to show them is solutions that seem practical. those are here we got them. it is just they re not quite economic and so you got to prop it up. that s one way to do it to give incentives and tax benefits to the challenger fuels the other way to do it is more efficient is to make the incumbent fuels fully accountable. make it so they have to pay. if they do then the plain field is lefvelled and you have entrepreneurs delivering to us new technology that works and expand our economy and have the u.s. leading the world to a solution and so it is a strange place in my opinion for american to be on the sidelines snipping of how we can t do this or that and that we have to try to do it without us that s a strange state of affairs is as far as what i am concerned. america is the one that s leading this we got the engineers we got the investors really we got the ideas that will solve this challenge. we think it is a problem of economics that has environmental consequence. you fix the economics, the environment will take care itself fix the economics and tackle on some political will thank you so much for joining us, former republican congressman bob inglis he s not a conservative, this is what the climate conversation should look like it should not be partisan. it should be humans are concerned of this earth and their children clean air and water and safety next, we 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(avo) love is out there. find it in a subaru crosstrek. today we are getting a fresh look of where the democratic candidates stand the top three spots are spl solidifying around joe biden, bernie sanders and elizabeth warren we are five months out from the first caucuses only 9% of democra rerespondenrerespondenspondents say their mind is made up. ali vitali and our steve cornacki two here and one in and out the field. there is five of us total in this conversation. sometimes is face timing me during the show right now and i want to answer and say are you kidding me okay, steve cornacki, what s your biggest take away you put the numbers we have been talking all summer, who s in second place is this? is it warren or is it sanders? sometimes sanders is up a couple of points. in this poll, you can see warren is getting separation from sanders when it comes to second place. warren is only 6-point behind joe biden for first place. she s closer to first place in this poll than to staanders what s moving the number up for elizabeth warren look at who s down at 5% at this poll kamala harris. after this first debate where she had that show down with joe biden, her numbers took off. she was up 20% it has come down to 5% looks like elizabeth warren has been a major beneficiary of kamala harris falling down sanders and warren, there are differences believe it or not and the coalition they put together but there are a bunch of voters they are both fighting over it looks like warren at least in our poll starting to get the better of staanders we llsee a new trend if it wil endure andrew yankeg is talking abot the feedback he s in fifth place in this poll i will show you interesting thing about andrew yang. look at this on voters under the age of 35. look where andrew yang is here he s ahead of joe biden. you thought september 2019 among all democrats under the age of 35, the former vice president is running behind andrew yang that s where he s coming from. can you give us a quick history lesson though there are loads of things we could not predict. that s the whole thing. if you go back to the screen here biden is in first place and warren is in second. you know what, it is not a national rie national primary it starts in iowa. there is still a chance who to say cory booker does not move up in iowa and getting the contention out there and have a moment if you can breakthrough iowa, that could set something up and we are focusing in on biden and warren right now because of what the poll is showing. it is not a national primary those candidates are out there working and things can change. we have seen it before ali vitali, 56% of democrats primary voters before a nominee who proposes large scale solutions to problems as oppose to small incremental things. a lot of people have criticized liz elizabeth warren because she has a plan for that. some of the things are too big and too much change involved it requires a lurch to the party of the left. take a look at this, 56% of large scale stuff and 40% of smaller scale stuff, that s something elizabeth warren is benefiting from this poll. yes, so that s the concern. when you are joe biden and making the pitch that you are the most electable against trump if you make it through the general election a poll like this does not help you get to that place. of course, to get to the general, you got to go to the primary. someone like elizabeth warren, one of the reasons we are seeing she s doing well is she s able to get on that stage and do it largely unchallenged by the rest of the field that s her smooth sailing summer i am interested to see once we hit the debate stage in ohio next months does that change that s interesting i think the other thing that we are looking at is she s in second place with african-american voters. there is still a big gap between her and biden about this i imagine that s something the warren campaign is looking at. as you and i all know you can t really win the democratic primary without voters vaughan hillyard. an 8% drop since july. since the last month or so, she s spending a ton of time fund raising help us understand what her strategy is. reporter: one campaign official told me about the polls that came out. horse race polling be dammed our reporter up on capitol hill tweet out which he over heard kamala harris talking to senator and he quoted her saying she s going to be moving to iowa i verbally will have to see. her campaign is focused on fund raising and over the course of the next few weeks, the campaign s spisofficial tells m that s their continued plan. they want to build and continue their robust campaign and put them in the position and not only be serious ahead of iowa and new hampshire but into the super states have another moment and allows herself to be that candidate in this race of the unifying message that s palable to a broad section of the democratic electric but makes the case she has the best general election candidate. the polling you guys have been discussing the three candidates are warren and biden and sanders. those are the three individuals enter this contest with the highest name id. among the democratic l electorates. they have brands of who they were now the question is to what extent can kamala harris continue to introduce her story and make it relevant through a broad cross section of this and also begin to actually campaign seriously. she s essentially all over the course of the last few months through the summer steve cornacki. vaughan hillyard and ali vitali. all of you are great thank you. tensions with iran plus, a new announcement from the fed, what it means for your money. you are watching all three of us, velshi & ruhle. hy w don t you stick with us please go with that. saturdays happen. pain happens. aleve it. aleve is proven better on pain than tylenol. when pain happens, aleve it. all day strong. so, every day, we put our latest technology and unrivaled network to 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war i appreciate the effort of the president to be measured when it came to the drones the point i am trying to make is not what i think it is not what the iranian thinks and clearly they have not got the message. the attack by the oil refinery is an act of war matt it is attacking the world s economy. joining me now our ali arouzi. let s start with lindsey graham s comment how do you see iran interpreting the united states coming out with more sanctions? iran and foreign minister just tweet this is further economic warfare against the iranian people it certainly going to make any dialogue between the united states and iran and amazingly difficult. it was not easy to start with. this almost kills any prospect of dialogue. drop all the sanctions and we may talk there are no signs of that happening. this is going to definitely put the final nail in the coffin or any talks between iran or america. it is going to make iran dig in deeper the reality is sanctions have had a very bad effect on iran. there is no doubt about that it has not had the objective that s to make regime and iran it is different of the results and made them dig in deeper and made them more aggressive. i am not sure what effects any more sanctions it will have. they sanction the country so heavily. there is not a lot left. they re sanctioning the minor sector and the top person of the country and the foreign minister the revolution regards of being sanctioned and senior members are being sanctioned i am sure there are more on the list that i can t remember there are so many of them. i don t think anymore sanctions are going to have any real effect on iran except for stiffening their results further. interestingly, lindsey graham is not always on the same page of this administration he had been more aggressive than the other administration have been mike pompeo is starting to use similar language of an act of war. while saudi arabia is an ally, they re not a nato member. but there seems to be some argument building here an attack on saudi arabia actually will be an attack on the united states we got to go to the president now on the tarmac with his new national security adviser. you can t do the money thing. if you do the money thing all of a sudden, it will quadruple and you say what s going on. robert has been fantastic, we have known each other well maybe robert say a few words great, thank you. it is a privilege to serve the president and i look forward to another year and a half of peace restraint with tremendous forum policy successes under president trump s leadership i expect those to continue we got a number of challenges. there is a great team in place with secretary pompeo and mnuchin and others i look forward to working with them and the president to keep america safe and continue to rebuild our military and really get us back and keep the american people safe around the world today. [ inaudible question ] we are looking at those issues now secretary pompeo is in saudi arabia right now just now coming home any advise i give to the president will be something i give him confidentially. we are monitoring the situation closely. nothing to report yet we ll be speaking to you tomorrow maybe the next day nothing to report. it has not changed very much i think my thinking pretty much remains the same we have not learned much that we didn t know. there is a certain garuarantee factor we are in a point where we know very much what happened. you will see what happens. you will watch excuse me? will rouhani come to new york next week? i really don t know it is up to him. it is up to him. we ll see what happens we ll see what happens i would let them come. if it is up to me, i would let them come. i feel the united nation is very important. i don t think it every lifts up to the potential it has. that would be up to them no, i think it is a sign of strength we have the strongest military in the world now i think it is a great sign of strength it is easy to attack but if you ask lindsey, ask him how it goes how did the war in iraq work out? there is plenty of time to do some it is easy to start and we ll see what happens we ll see what happens i think we have a lot of good capit capital. if we have to do something we ll do it without hesitation [ inaudible question ] he spoke to me a little while ago, we ll have an announcement. mr. o brien, something you were looking for that you did not get through mr. bolton mr. o brien is highly respected by so many people that i didn t even know really knew him he did a tremendous job on hostage negotiation, really tremendous like unparalleled he had tremendous success and brought home many people and true hos shrough hostage nen i got to know him very well. a lot of people i respect rated him as the absolute number one choice you know i think we have a good chemistry together and we ll have a great relationship. veryn did i raise more sanctions on iran today i did we ll be adding some significance sanctions onto iran what will that include, sir we ll announce it in the next 48 hours will there be further announcement on iran will you look for military strikes? we ll see what happens. what are the options that you are considering? well, there are many options. there is the ultimately option and there are options a lot less than that. we ll see, we are in a powerful position right now we are in a very, very powerful position. i would say the ultimate option going in war no, i am not talking about that ultimate option i think it is a very important role really a role that the president respects the person that is the adviser, i think it plays an important role okay, thank you. peter, thank you we are going to the border later, are you all with me we ll show you a lot of wall we are building a lot of wall. we won the big case and a couple of other cases as you know we are billing a luilding a lots we ll be talking to you later on have you talked to benjamin netanyahu? i have not. those results are coming in and it is very close do you have any updates? you guys should know before the president. no, i am not everybody knew it is very close. we ll see what happens look, our relationship is with israel we ll see what happens thank you, everybody all right, we are in the middle of the conversation with ali arouzi and the president introducing ali, when he talked about the ultimate options with iran, reporters asked i am what do you mean by th that the ultimate action is war and i am not talking about that. he praised the united nation that s a great place, i would let them come. america reserves the rights and options to do very bad things but he impliied that s not on th table right now. reporter: he s hot and cold we were getting tweets the other day like locked and loaded and now he s kind of walking it back the iranians are confused and i am not sure everybody in his administration knows what his next move is going to be the iranians have been clear if they are attacked directly by the united states or saudi arabia attacks iran, they re going to hold the united states responsible and they are going to retaliate with full force against u.s. assets in the region they have said time and time again that the u.s. assets in the region are within their targets and they re not fighting if iran comes under attack this is a very, very delicate situation we are in right now. the president also realizes that a war with iran would be bad for everybody. it would be bad for the united states and it would be bad for saudi arabia and it would be bad for iran the problem is in all three of these countries, you have some fairly head strong leaders that are not risk above it is very unpredictable right now. iran is sticking to its guns saying we are ready if you attack us. when we wait and see, locked and loaded, stay tuned, given how delicate the situation is, don t those sentiment add to the chaos of it all? absolutely. it is a chaotic and unpredictable situation and from day-to-day, we have no idea how it is going to move on that has changed the calculation from iran. they have been saying for quite some time now they don t want to talk to this president he changes his mind over 24 hours. they are trying to wait him out. if they can t wait for him, we arng match with you guys and we are not frighten with it ali arouzi with us, thank you. we ll continue to follow this story closely. being in a chaotic situation, one thing is straight forward, it is really different when there are armed parties with weapons. the federal reserve is expected to announce a new cut of interest rates for the second time in a decade ahead of that announcement, here is what the market stands we had sort of an off-ish day. not much a quarter of a percent joining us now to have a conversation about this, diane swan we know a rate cut is coming talk to me about how we should think about this we have seen much of the effects of this in things like mortgage rates and they backed up from the lows we have seen. much of the rate cut is affecting us that s what you will hear chairman powell talked about the day. the economy is doing well because we did a 180 and not only help the rates but cut rate by half percent. on the flip side we ll be holding this card very close on whether or not we ll get additional cuts and rates. how far do they go in ensuring hedging these negative downside risk and we have seen trades and issues with iran and oil prices and all of those shots verses the reality that the u.s. economy is still doing okay. they would like their powder dry until they see the eye of the recession, we don t have a lot of more rate cuts before we get down to zero again that s something that the fed worries about because there are much more limited in what they can do back in july, jay powell described the rate cut as an adjustment and the market did not like that. adjustment is fixing your tie. what he s doing is cutting in july and cutting again is more like taking your tie and rolling your sleeves up and digging into what called be a real problem. if it were a judgment then, we would not be getting one now apparently the market did not like it last time because it meant fewer rate cuts and it looks like that s what he s going to be signaling today because he does not have the boat on the feds to go to hedge against the risk we are saying it does not mean you won t and conditions can change. what they want to do is contingent on these changing conditions and be able to be flexible this is really hard for chairman powell last time he was sideswiped by the spectrum some people did not want to cut rates at all and a lot of people want to cut more this time he s keeping his cards close to his vest. good to see you, diane swan the chief economist. thank you. listen to this, we ll break down how rising sea levels could change the landscape specifically in places like philadelphia and charleston. this is part of our climate in crisis series right here on msnbc. ing her car towed. all i had to take care of was making sure that my daughter was ok. if i met another veteran, and they were with another insurance company, i would tell them, you need to join usaa because they have better rates, and better service. we re the gomez family. we re the rivera family. we re the kirby family, and we are usaa members for life. get your auto insurance quote today. - [woman] with my shark, i deep clean messes like this, this, and even this. but i don t have to clean this, because the self-cleaning brush roll removes hair while i clean. - [announcer] shark, the vacuum that deep cleans now cleans itself. you ve i like working.areer. what if my retirement plan is i don t want to retire? then let s not create a retirement plan. let s create a plan for what s next. i like that. get a plan that s right for you. td ameritrade. we re focusing on climate change this week and today we want to discuss something that should be of concern to every person on this planet. sea level rise one aspect of climate change we want to give paw look at what sea level rise could look like and how it could change the geography of several states. according to noaa the populations grew from approximately 91 million to approximately 126 million in 2010 that s about 40% of the total u.s. population. so let s look at just one coastal city and how sea level rise could affect it this is central charleston, south carolina this is where i was during hurricane dorian as it is right now the green showing low lying areas. okay that could be prone to flooding at this point now, here s what happens after four feet of sea level rise a little more than 1 meter you see flooding pushing through the northeastern and southwest parts of the city. by 10 feet, the central part of the city is a little more disconnected take a look at that. okay lith little bits of land with historic water the citadel if you know charleston, totally can be merged it s not just a problem for cities sitting on the atlantic ocean. this is philadelphia, south philly and camden, new jersey, along the delaware river they sit nearly 60 miles from the ocean. philadelphia is not a coastal city take a look at 4 feet of sea level rise, the dark areas of philadelphia start to flood along with bigger sections of camden at 7 feet, a little more than 2 meters, the camden aquarium and rutgers university, both of their campuses are under water at 10 feet, 3 meters, whole neighborhoods of south philadelphia are gone along with most of western camden flooding pushes nearly to the sports complex and in center city, a river forms almost all the way to independence hall all right, joining us is an associate professor in the mathematics, science technology department at teachers college in colombia university chris to a lot of people climate change is different things it s hurricanes, it s droughts it s fires but sea level rise is a massive problem around the world, particularly in places where we have settled because their water. yeah, i think the notion that we don t have to worry about these things if we are living in urban areas or living no. it s such a silly phenomenon. what i m glad about is we are having conversations about this now. it s always in the conversation this may affect the citadel. this may affect the statue of liberty. people that live in those places. most importantly those who live in those areas are the most economically disadvantaged so they can t recover as as soon as those that live on the beaches in california. the hurricane katrina as an example. yes. some can prove somewhere else we have entire parts of the world like bangladesh a large portion of the population gets flooded out every year how do we fix from this is a passive infrastructure this is not a one-fix phenomenon i argue always it takes multiple levels of things to do the first thing i think we have to do which folks don t like to have a conversation about is science and education and have young folks to be aware and created a advocates in the next generation of young folks who will be acted by this. the another piece is not shying away and engaging in the political landscape. we heard about the rollbacks of epa in california. so this is a large dimension kind of problem that requires a more broadway of looking at the issues so their not a fix all but it is one that requires a conversation about the urgency of it all and letting folks that would be affected being aware of the phenomenon we don t have enough popular lit ral rat who knows if this goes down, you are affected and if erms folks are aware, they make those situations corey booker have talked about climate justice, people in the oil and gas sector and there are other groups who are affected because they are poorer they live in places that will be prone to flooding or drought or hurricanes or mudslides and can t do anything about that we have to think of this as a social issue and an economic issue and a technological issue. and a preventative issue. i think a part of the conversation of letting folks be aware of the dynamics is a recognition of the likelihood and the effects, i m not waiting for it to happen this gets down to the science, an understanding of the distinction between weather and climate. if the weather is going on okay, it doesn t mean climate change is happening. it matters out your window. the climate is the world. we have this broad based perspective and inform folks, it helps us to be more effective and plan for the future effectively. is it us moving away from coastal places on stilts on houses, how should we be thinking about property values in coastal places? of course we are dealing with that right now, we are dealing with folks who can t get insurance on their homes in these issues. human beings are resilient so we will find ways to navigate what happens when it happens, some better than other, but more information is necessary for knowing how to do it and also to understand the signs about what the next levels are. and also it s economic right. so how do these communities who may be directly affected find ways in which they become a part of the economy that can solve the issue. lots to talk about. it s a lot. it s a lot chris, thank you. an associate professor in the department of mathematics science technology teachers college colombia university. a reminder tomorrow connection off our climate forum with most of the presidential candidates from both sides of the aisle, our streaming network, al roker will host a special show climate in crisis at 10:20 p.m please, get as engaged in this conversation as you can. your life, your property, your children s prosperity and their children s prosperity all depend on this. all right, coming up next, the push for paid family leave we will hear from a law maker about what congress can do about it you are watching vel velshi & ruehle on msnbc ating your ever. you think this is love? 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