towards the most serious charges that can be brought, because this is an unequivocally, unacceptable and evil attack. those words from the attorney general. yet for three days now the president of the united states declined to explicitly condemn the white supremacists and neo-nazis who sparked the weekend bloodshed. a torrent of criticism, much from republicans saying the president is failing a giant leadership and character test. this president has done an incredible job of naming ta terrorism around the globe as evil. erratic islamic terrorism, whether in europe on the middle east said and called it out time and time again and this president needs to do exactly that today. call this white supremacism, white nationalism evil and let the country and world hear it. with us to share reporting and insights, margaret talev, manu raju, matt and jackie kucinich. the ohio man charged with plowing his war into a crowd saturday in charlottesville arraigned on murder and other charges this morning and ordered held without bail. this morning s court hearing for james alex fields jr. on state charges. he, of course, is central to the federal investigation now the president is hearing about at the white house as we speak. we are told we ll hear from the president again from charlottesville later today. his team including the vice president saying it is a media creation that the president fell mimpab miserably short blaming the violence on many sides. wrong. leading the republicans are part of a giant chorus saying the president of the united states failed a big leadership test by failing to name names and single out the hate 3407kers. mongers. the president seems tone defr and soft in the wake of a domestic terrorist attack on his watch. this morning, well, the president dug the hole deeper. not one tweet over the weekend or this morning on the scourge of white supremacy but a rush to attack an african-american ceo who resigned from a panel being disappointed at the president s response. quit because america s leaders must honor our fundamental views clearly rejecting expressions of hatred, bigotry and group supremacy. the president s response to attack. now that ken frazier of merck pharma resigned from the council, the president said on twitter, he will have more time to work on rip-off drug prices. asked yesterday on inside politics why? why can t the president name names? why wouldn t the president name names? why this? the country and the world are waiting to hear from you. you get a chance to reset a chance to say maybe i didn t get it right the first time and you attack an african-american ceo? why not retweet, ken i agree. listen to what i say later today. don t quit. why? we ll hear from him possibly soon and he ll need to articulate the points. he s taken effectively a tragedy not at its outset about him. made it about him and tempted his own party and executives basically dared them, stick with me, or i ll come after you. and it has created a moment of dissidence at a time traditionally called for presidential healing, and, you know, at bloomberg we re looking, watching other advisory counsels to see if any follow suit. it s taken a major news event out of one realm and put it squarely at the white house. and it s caused a real mess. and it s just i ve wound up a bit about this. why we elect presidents. if you re out there voted for trump or didn t vote for trump, this is why we elect presidents. to step up at moments like this. what they re paid for and what a lot of americans pray for. pray for their president to step forward in a moment like this and try to unify the country. why? remarkable to see all administration officials try to put words in the president s mouth, saying things that he didn t say. ben carson, his hud secretary saying on facebook the president overly disavowed any relationship with white supremacists. the president did not do that in this unnamed white house official, who put out a statement yesterday saying the president, of course, disavows these groups. well, the president on the jeff sessions on the show this morning. the president has not done that himself and this is a time, a cause for presidential leadership. he could have put on 140 character tweet just as quickly as he did to criticize the ceo this morning. meant to say, of course, i criticized, calling out white supremacist, kkk, neo-nazis. shows an ex-policery not do that. this is not the first time, a pattern from this president. look how long it took him to disavow david duke of all people. goodness sake. is it because this is a group of people that do not criticize the president? so he doesn t feel like he needs to hit back. that s definitely something worth looking into. but this is a gimme. this is an easy thing to say, why supremacists are bad. neo-nazism is bad. disavow them. i don t wand to understate what happened. a woman is dead. two police officers killed responding to this and we should be talking about. that. talking about these organizations. right. the president made it about him. and back to your point about ben carson, the attorney general this morning. i make the case these people who think they re trying to help the president are making it worse for him. because they are speaking out clearly, including the vice president of the united states. he is traveling in colombia. listen to the vice president. a media creation, the device that the president of the united states, the vice president says, called it out clearly. listen. president trump clearly and unambiguously condemned the bigotry violence and hatred which took place on the streets of charlottesville. we have no tolerance for hate and violence. from white sprim siftem upremac neo-nazis orred kkk. these dangerous fringe groups have no place in the united states and we condemn them in the strongest terms. well put by the vice president there. his statement not so clear and you heard the vice president say the president did that. the president did what he just did. called them out by name. here s the president on saturday. he did no such thing. we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence, on many sides, on many sides. it s been going on for a long time in our country. not donald trump, not barack obama. this has been going on for a long, long time. it has no place in america. he s certainly right, matt. racism, bigotry, hatred going on a long time. he s the president of the united states. his test, respond to the specifics what happened on his watch. and moments like that for a president. you think of george w. bush on after 9/11. barack obama after the shootings in charleston. moments for a president to speak to the country, and to unite the country and part of that, you know, trump is calling for unity without recognizing there s a segment of the pop tlaulation t believes in him with racist ideology and he s not rejecting that. that s a big deal. and trump during the campaign showed a master at branding people, and sort of diminishing them quickly with that branding. he s not used that skill that he has to direct it at this neo-nazi group that believes in him, and that s telling. that he s not doing that. so i think he has moments today where he can do some of that and speak out in a way that he so far has not. the question is telling of what? is it just he doesn t want to criticize people he knows supports him? those saying this proves to them he sympathizes with them, we all pray is not the case. but when you have a lack of clarity, you allow people togro the president hasn t singled us out. that s a good thing, see what the justice does. an investigation opened into the incidents. whether they prosecute, how hard do they go after these groups? that s something we re center watching and i think the current will watch to your point about the president, very clear. if he doesn t like you if he wants to criticize you, he does it quite well. this is eric garrison conservative activist not always a trump fan. so trump critics say he doesn t like, supporters say he doesn t like us to begin with. in the new york times, the same president who routinely mocked and attacked barack obama and hillary clinton for failing to call islamic radicalism by its name. in charlottesville evil has a name. it is white supremacy. this only feeds eving. evil. the president who warned barack obama to name radical islam should take his own advice and be forceful. that from a conservative. not always a trump fan, but from a conservative, i urge the vice president who wants to blame this on the media to read that and to read the twitter feeds of about 650 republican lawmakers or more getting in the president s face. and also some of his allies. like the new york post editorial page. one. president s favorite newspapers, also taking him to task. you make a good point. the president made points about political correctness on the campaign trail. why not showing any nuance here a president who rarely shows nuance going after people. the only time he shows nuance or skirts criticism seems to be according to republicans and democrats that pointed thissous, about vladimir putin. he doesn t want to criticize vladimir putin, and why not calling out white sprim siuprem? makes no sense to folks today. he can clean it up, say in strong, direct terms but maybe defensive over all the criticism so far he s gotten. listen to the chants. we should be shaming the protestors. playing for you all probably not too much. giving them the attention they want. screams against jewish people, against african-americans, the rants and friday night saturday and former secretary of state john kerry, potus tougher than a domestic terrorist who took an american life. criticism from the president, making a lot of people, keep asking the same question why? what is it about him, his team? they can t figure out it s a moral obligation of anybody, but he s the president of the united states. last week, the week before, we were all talking about john kelly and the new chief of staff. how his mandate was going to be to return order and structure and priority to the white house as best he could. we don t have a lot of v visibility into the internal discussions how the president would respond to this. we know he s been up at b bedminster and back in washington today. helping the president understand implications are doing this one way, another way, inclusion of comments, absence of other comments. it seems to be underscoring the idea that the president ultimately does always go with his own gut and make his own decisions. i think like jackie was saying. a base instinct with trump that seems to be, if you are nice to me, i m nice to you. you re mean to me, i m mean to you. this is a group that supported him during the campaign and so he s been reluxant to disavoi himself from it. that elemental instinct of his is not even overriding the fact that they are nazis and and does not like to admit, the president, when he s wrong. getting all of this criticism from the media, from his own party. from democrats. for him to come out and say something would be an acknowledgement of making a mistake, perhaps one reason why he has not tried to clean this up after his comments. we ll see if we hear from him today meeting with the attorney general of the united states now and with his new fbi director promising an aggressive investigation into possible domestic tear original, possible hate crimes. way out ahead of the president. see if he says something and whether he waits until this afternoon and speaks sooner. when we come back, more of this conversation, this incident in charlottes vainville and eve the republican party, the president is on an island. jack be nimble, jack be quick, jack knocked over a candlestick onto the shag carpeting. .and his pants ignited into flames, causing him to stop, drop and roll. luckily jack recently had geico help him with renters insurance. because all his belongings went up in flames. jack got full replacement and now has new pants he ordered from banana republic. visit geico.com and see how affordable renters insurance can be. announcer: no one loves a road trip like your furry sidekick! so when your side glass gets damaged. 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we re expecting the president to come out momentarily and make a statement. a change in the schedule. he wasn t going to speak until this afternoon. underscoring the urgency they view this at the white house. three days later, how does he fix it? other steps, of course. reaching out to the families of the victims. having private conversations with them. words to the public. an appearance in charlottesville at the appropriate time, a memorial, more initiatives and the discussion of those initiatives in terms of dealing with this problem both from law enforcement and societal perspective. a number of things he can do. but the timing matters. and the approach matters. and also he can be completely unequivocal. he was equivocal saturday saying clearly who is responsible for this. the united states is not condoning this behavior. strongly condemns these groups in the sharpest possible terms. he could certainly do that, better late than never. clearly, concern within the white house that what he did on saturday is overshadowing everything right now and the president needs to do something to clean this up, because they do not sincerity matters, too. how into it is he and how much is just a reaction from the blowback he s gotten, and how much does he really feel these things? his first instinct was not to condemn these groups on saturday. so how sincere is he going to be? a critical point. you made the observation, this should have been politically a no-brainer for the president that lost the popular vote, approval rating down, a president done nothing to reach out to critics and the people who didn t vote for him. it s a two-way street not all on him. had an opportunity. had he come out saturday and condemned this by name we would be having a very different conversation about a potential reset for the president of united states who struggled from day one. my question now, comes into this room and says all the right things, says what he should have said on saturday, will it be viewed credibly by hit skeptics and critics? only reforced27 72 hours as miserable failure. if he comes out says the right things this isn t going away. the groups made it clear this isn t over. they re going to protest other places and there needs to be follow-up and a consistent message from this president. the consistent message that we ve heard up until this point hasn t been the right one. and reading from the conservative national review. editorial on sunday. they have taken his thus far mealymouthed both sides do it, refuse toll reject them specifically, strongly and by name as tacit indullens. the closest thing to a public embrace real politics allows. the nazis are ridiculous. national view making a case, hate groups because the president did not say, i denounce neo-nazis. if you think you represent me, you do not. you think i speak for you, i do not. he didn t specifically call it out those groups taking it as a wink nod from the president of the united states. and i think we can expect strong words from the president according to our colleague jeff zeleny, reporting this right now. that a white house official said that the president is expected to directly address the charlottesville attack, declare racism is evil, call out the kkk and neo-nazis, white supremacists other hate groups saying they re repugnant to everything we hold dear as americans. the guidance on this note, it s subject to change listening to what president has to say. we ll hear what he says have to hear, see if he backfrac backtr any way what s being put out and if the president says something different. waiting for the president. the shot from inside the white house. the president was supposed to speak publicly later in the day. they ve added this event to address charlottesville. meeting with his attorney general and the fbi director. they, by saturday night, said they would have a federal investigation. perhaps potential domestic terrorism. the attorney general said clearly today. perhaps hate crimes as well. one woman killed when a man from ohio allegedly plowed his car into a crowd. two state troopers, helicopter crash there. my question again is about the credibility of the president. critics say he was pushed into this, pulled into it by his attorney general and vice president, and others. it is a we re human beings. human beings make mistakes. presidents make mistakes. how does he do this? again, what his body language is like during this. does he show any rarely does this. show remorse for his initial reaction? it took longer than it should have to come to this conclusion? i doubt he ll say something like that. if he does, it goes a long way towards his own growth as a person and as a president to admit that he should have acted differently in the past few days. african-american ceo walked away from a council. failed morality test. i need a president that stnds up and says this is wrong. will the president pick up the phone to ken frazier. please, come back. i was wrong? i d be surprised. yes. i just why? why? it s you re right. right. there s nothing in this president s past to suggest he will admit a mistake, reach out, through the disdain. never. at some point if he wants to lead the country, does he have to do that? you think that would be help follow to healing the damage he s done here, but i don t think he can really overstate how much of a problem this has become for this white house. i mean, if the president coming out two days later to make this statement after all of this growing, growing backlash just sewo shows the significant miscalculation, by add libing, adding on of many sites, but why not come out directly afterward on twitter, elsewhere, just being clear that calls out these groups right way. this story would have been maybe a few hours. a instead of a two-day story, people will remember this a long time. and add to it yesterday putting out a statement by an anonymous white house official. hiding behind a curting saying, of course the president mend an the kkk, the neo-nazis. as close as they could get to the statement that the rest of the country was demanding, but i think you know, going beyond the obvious racial issues here, we re still talking about campaign instincts six months into governing. and this can be explained during the course of a campaign, sort of. but we are talking about this like, is it too late to respond? good for politics? but this is a national tragedy. a national event and in a sense it doesn t matter if it s too late or not. he still has to do it, because that is what it means to the president. the core, gets right down to it, joint chiefs of staff, defense secretary, everybody else can backstop this stuff. when there s a national moment of crisis or tragedy, there is no one with the same platform as it s president to heal, to unite, to comfort, to calm, put aside personal issues to bring everyone together. that is the test that actually not even a test. he has to do it. it s his job. i said before. i m sure people didn t vote for barack obama, praying for him. you had the shootings in south carolina. he came out. other tragedies, multiple shootings during the obama administration is what presidents are supposed to do. the question, can he step up now? obama had to be careful in way he talked about racism in a different way. so it didn t seem his own background was sort of affecting his bias. now president trump is dealing with kind of the same range of con plex complicity but a different side of the spectrum. it s important for him to say i speak for everyone. a good point earlier. probably come out, read a prepared statement. doubt he ll deviate much given what happened saturday. strongly worded, probably, at jeff zeleny is reporting suggesting that he s going to call racism evil, call out the names by name. but off-script and is asked about this as a big press conference he planned to have later today, not happening anymore, but probably asked that, any sort of open press event. does he equivocate then? and does he come out sort of bashing everybody in the media, and twitter afterwards? and back off in the statement then? it is this statement is very important, but it s continued actions afterwards that are equally at important. again, go back to, i know the vice president has a job to do and part of the job is be loyal to the president, try to help the president, but the vice president repeatedly saying this is just the media. i read a few. read another. from senator ted cruz. not known as a liberal or huge fan of mainstream media. tragic to see racism, more bloodshed. nazi, kkk and white sprim siemus are repulsive and evil. a republican senator trying to send a message to his president, and i don t eastern think party has anything to do with it. but also it does alienate him even more from his party. from people who are very quick to stand up and say, cory gardner saying, say something. you need to disavow tease people. this is something you have to do. marco rubio, a similar comment to ted cruz. this this does have, not to make this political, but it has political ramifications in terms of people wanting to stand behind this president and to support him publicly. you can t you can t really the damage that is done by what he s doing here both internally and externally. you mentioned marco rubio. use this waiting for the president. marco rubio going to scripture today to make clear displeasure with the president of the united states. one who winks at a fault causes trouble. one who frankly reproves promotes peace. from proverbs 10:10. marco rubio. fascinating, the last 48 hours watching the number of republicans in part trying to distance themselves from the president. they worry what he s doing to their party. but first instinct, i think, just do the right thing. stand up and speak out and try to set an example for the president of the united states and what where are we that everybody else has to set an example for the president? supposed to work the other way. isn t it? and that sort of split, already started, when you saw that through health care. this idea the recess and then pivot to tax reform. work together on other things and that seems like this is only opening up the distance between trump and his republicans in congress. the other point from earlier today in his criticism of the merck ceo is wall street and sort of corporate america has been one bright spot for president trump, and to the extent that he now is a toxic brand of himself, where corporate america does not want to be associated with him. that s a whole other problem in an area he could become an island from the rest of mainstream america. he s the ceo. we can put fault at the president s team, why the chief of staff can t run an orderly ship and why the white house chief of staff didn t get the president to think twice what he said saturday. as the president said many times he is the ceo. this is his operation about which begs the question, why? and, again, again, why when you know you re under all of this criticism is your reflex to lash out at an african-american american ceo resides on a white house council because he thinks it s a matter the principle to do so? reminds me of instances in the campaign tripped over racial issues as well. whether when asked about david duke and wouldn t condemn him right away. the judge is a mexican. yes. the mexican-american judge, could not rule fairly, because he was mexican. in those situations, too, you saw republicans go after trump in pretty strong terms. paul ryan calling that, the mexican-american judge comment, textbook definition of racism, and this is a similar situation. you get into the issue of race, not a partisan issue. most republicans agree with that. the president seems to not understand that his words on this particular topic are particularly damaging, depends on what he says. waiting for the president, seen yeoh white house correspondent jeff zeleny reporting on this. we expect tough words from the president. jeff, start with this question. what specifically do you hear is coming and add this as a follow why in the world did it take so long? reporter: well, john, what we hear specifically is coming, a direct and forceful and full-throated condemnation of the acts of violence in charlottesville on saturday. i am told by white house, a white house official it will directly say what happened in charlottesville was evil. i am told he will directly talk about the neo-nazi group, the white supremacists, the ku klux klan, mention those groups by name and also talking about the victim. the victim who was hit in the the the crash on saturday as well as the two state troopers who also died on saturday. he will talk about the loss of life. also i m told he will talk about the need to bring the country together. to unify the country. as for your question of, why this has taken so long it s a good one. this is still a young white house. still a white house that is getting its bearings in many ways. and i think this is one of the first examples, certainly the biggest example, of how this white house is reacting to external events. something that they did not see coming. and there s no question. if you talk to people inside the white house, they were caught a bit flat-footed by this. the president is reluctant to sort of weigh in against some groups that have been supportive of him, but now they view this as the only option. they ve seen this really remarkable criticism across the board coming. so i am told we are going to hear a speech, remarks, a brief set of remarks this afternoon that directly confronts all of this. the question is, once he is in a more spontaneous setting, will any of that change? but this is something that many of his supporters would have liked to have heard him give on saturday. but i think on monday s, it s certainly, you know, a better than not doing it at all, of course. again, these are remarks prepared for him, with him. we ll see if he goes through and delivers all of these, but i am told it is a very forceful condemnation. senior white house correspondent jeff zeleny. stay with us. awaiting the president to deliver this statement. listen to the way jeff describes how this came about and see an aide putting something on the podium. maybe the president is coming any second. the question, is the president doing this? can t read minds. the president doing it because he realizes he made a mistake, failed the test and wants to? something he must say? he wraunts ants to say? or walking in to give this statement because he realized politically he has to? maybe he s been convinced he has to by his staff. see if this is hey, we ll see if john kelly, the new chief of staff, had any, had any influence here in pushing the president to make this statement. why not make it sunday in bedminster? they didn t tell the press what the president was doing all day long. put out an anonymous statement and wouldn t explain why it could not be on the record who it was from. that just made this story worse for them. i think that s right. we have a two-minute warning the president will speak and expect him in a nint and a half. i get your point and a lot of questions in the days ahead how did this work with the staff? who did he talk to? pushed out by the new chief of staff. no mistake he s the president of united states. this is his job. he leads the entire kurngts in fact country. the entire world is watching. people chanting anti-american slogans, anti-jewish slogans, bigotry and hatred on display. it should be a moral reflex. yes, an unorthodox president. has fights with his party. disagree over taxes and health care. a separate issue. this is a human being. whether a democrat, independent, republican, 20 years or 20 minutes. we saw in charlottesville, usersly repug nannant and why d it take so long for the president to say so? that he didn t speak out immediately is telling. instead has to be convinced over the course of several days, both from people inside the white house and members of his party who are willing to criticize him is it tells something about him. and should be noted that his daughter, jewish. her husband, his grandchildren, came out before the president, as did his wife melania. melania, the first of the white house, the trumps certainly, to come out against this. not only is he on an island in this party. seems his own family even got out of ahead of him on this. and go back to the point that this is a president who just cannot, does not admit making mistakes. the one time that he did, he made generally, that he made mistakes. said it during, i believe in the campaign. if my memory serves correctly. end of the campaign what is the, can t remember what the stakes were. this has to be a reason why. did not want to admit he made a huge mistake on saturday. didn t want to feel he needed to clean it up. he is hardly unique among american presidents to have a big ego. i don t say it critically. to get involved in this arena you need a healthy ego. a lot of self-confidence. also he s not alone american american presidents to make mistakes. every one does, just like every human being. the question, how do you get up and recover? knocked down, how do you recover? back to the same question. how can this president given the history and given the ticking clock since what happened in charlottesville happened? what is the most important test when, in a minute or so, we see the president of the united states standing right there. trying to essentially reset his failure in charlottesville? we had talked about all the southern conservative male republican whose have used much more direct language and then called on the president to do so themselves, and you know, one political question i have, after the, tragedy of this subsides is what happens when everyone comes back from the august recess? are things differ? here we go. about to find out what the president of the united states says differently. here he is at the white house. thank you. i m in washington today to meet with my economic team about trade policy and major tax cuts and reform. we are renegotiating trade deals and making them good for the american worker. and it s about time. our economy is now strong. the stock market continues to hit record highs. unemployment is at a 16-year low, and businesses are more optimistic than ever before. companies are moving back to the united states and bringing many thousands of jobs with them. we have already created over 1 million jobs since i took office. we will be discussing economic issues in greater detail later this afternoon, but based on the events that took place over the weekend in charlottesville, virginia, i would like to provide the nation with an update on the ongoing federal response to the horrific attack and violence that was witnessed by everyone. i just met with fbi director christopher ray, and attorney general jeff sessions, the department of justice has opened a civil rights investigation into the deadly car attack that killed one innocent american, and wounded 20 others. to anyone who acted criminally in this weekend s racist violence, you will be held fully accountable. justice will be delivered. as i said on saturday, we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence. it has no place in america. and as i have said many times before, no matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws. we all salute the same great flag, and we are all made by the same almighty god. we must love each other, show affection for each other and unite together in condemnation of hatred, bigotry and violence. we must rediscover the bonds of love and loyalty, that bring us together as americans. racism is evil. and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the kkk, neo-nazis, white sprupremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as americans. we are a nation founded on the truth that all of us are created equal. we are equal in the eyes of our creator. we are equal under the law. and we are equal under our constitution. those who spread violence in the name of bigotry strike at the very core of america. two days ago a young american woman heather heyer was tragically killed. her death fills us with grief and we send her family our thoughts, our prayers and our love. we also mourn the two virginia state troopers who died in service to their community, their commonwealth, and their country. troopers jay cullen and berke banks exemplify the very best of america and our hearts go out to their families, their friends and every member of american law enforcement. these three fallen americans embody the goodness and decency of our nation. in times such as these, america has always shown its true character. responding to hate with love, division with unity and violence with an unwavering resolve for justice. as a candidate i promised to restore law and order to our country and our federal law enforcement agencies are following through on that pledge. we will spare no resource in fighting so that every american child can grow up free from violence and fear. we will defend and protect the sacred rights of all americans, and we will work together so that every citizen in this blessed land is free to follow their dreams, in their hearts, and to express the love and joy in their souls. thank you. god bless you, and god bless america. thank you very much. mr. president do you hear the president of the united states leaving the room after delivering a statement. he began oddly with talk of being in washington meeting with his economic team. talking trade and tax policies and creating more jobs. the president claims credit for the economy, economic environment and turned to the events in charlottesville. saying the just it department and fbi leading the vin investigation, talked about the kkk, neo-nazis, white supremacists, repugnant to everything we hold dear as americans. no disagreement there. one of the questions, why monday? not saturday? talking before the president came in the room about his challenge. trying to convince people he means it. how did he do? it was important to say some of those key lines that he said. i ll note one thing he didn t do was a lot of outreach to people not white or who might feel they were victimized and the pro p t protesters were carrying, he said a minimum but a lot of questions as he left the room you heard being shouted out. and of course, saying on many sides, which what got him in trouble saturday. did not place the blame on many sides. clearly said, the kkk, white supremacists, everything we hold dear as americans. the question, we talked about earlier, what does he do now, when off script, asked directly about this? get defensive? spread out the blame? that s going to be the big question going forward. this is not the end of this test. probably the beginning. and did seem defensive in starting with the economy. by the way, the economy s great, and then let me address this thing i have to address. you know? because i didn t address it two days ago. you know? and he was very clearly reading a statement that had been well crafted by his advisers, but it did strike me, same as margaret. minimum what he needed to do. inserting some phrases and things you expected him to do earlier without the outreach to some groups that probably feel victimized at this point. add on to what was said. what happens the next time? what happens how he reacts the next time will be worth watching. because this message needs to be consistent to kind of undo the damage that has already been done. and our white house correspondent sara murray stand big at the white house. sara, obviously, the president realized he had to do this. there will be a debate whether it was genuine? see that in the follow-through. take us in the conversation at the trump white house. obviously they understand what s happening and despite them saying it s the liberal media, that this torrent of criticism was coming from every corner of the political spectrum including loudly from fellow republicans? reporter: right, john. wall-to-wall media coverage of this horrific tragedy. a woman lost her life and the president s muted response. part of the reason it got so much attention is republicans were willing and eager to call out the president saying he did not go far enough. seen backlash from democrats and also from republicans. also seen it from wall street and so in many ways he could not escape the clamor. and when people look at the comments coming from the president today they are a little skeptical a little dubious. wondering why it took days to say something like this. remember, the day after the president made his sort of very muted remarks about this, equivocating how both sides were to blame and both sides kind of need to ratchet down the temperature and the violence. an unnamed white house official put out a statement saying, of course the president denounces the kkk. of course the president denounces neo-nazi groups. even that white house official wouldn t put their name on the state. it s clear this is a problem that s going to continue to dog this white house, john. you watched alongside me on the campaign. every time an issue like this came out it always took the president a couple tries, at that point candidate trump, a couple tries to hit the right note. we saw it when jake tapper was pressing him to denounce david duke and saw it with attacks on a mexican judge and even in the wake of his election when we were seeing one-off attacks on minorities and people chanting racial epithets in trump s name. took him a while, took him pressed in an interview before he denounced those supporters. this is not something the president feels comfortable doing and evident again today. sara, covered him a long time throughout the campaign now at the white house. i don t know there s an answer to this. what is it about this president that he knew what the country was waiting for? knew what politically he had to do. why does he need the windup? why does he need to walk in and brag about the economy before he gets gets to the point? why can t he just walk in the room, just back in washington, just met with my fbi director, and tell you about charlottesville and make denounciation of these groups, he should have done saturday. why? reporter: an indication this is not what the president wants to be talking about. he is not comfortable talking about these racial issues. if they were he would have had a full-throated statement on the day it was all going on. we didn t get that. obviously. he feels much more solid talking about the economy, the stock market and frankly, he and his advisers feel that s one bright shining star in this administration. the fact the kmeconomy is hummi along, the stock market booming. he ll bring it up every chance pe gets. congress has a robust agenda getting back to washington. if the president hadn t made these statements today this would have followed members of congress as they got back to town and would have been yet another thing that inhibits what the president wants to get done. now i think republicans will point to what the president said and say we need to move beyond it. remember, also what they did during the president s campaign. not an indication president trump s mind-set changed or his view how to handle these things changed, but he waits a couple days. makes a statement he needs to make and members of his own party tend to back off and give him breathing room to go back to kwhafr his agenda item was. my guess, that s what happens in this area, john. at the white house, sara murray. couldn t agree more. republicans grateful for the statement today although i think the last 72 hours furthered, if that s the right word, the chasm between the president and his own party. seen it on trust issues this is a moral issue and their lack of faith he ll do the right thing it s not going away even as they can seize on the statement today and say the president finally got to where he had to be. back to the president coming out, you noted, he talked first about a million new jobs created during his add min station,mini. and investigating and prosecute, bring to justice those responsible and did what many hoped the president would do saturday. name names. racism is evil. and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs. including the kkk, neo-nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as americans. reading from a teleprompter there. a lot of people talked on saturday when looked up from his prepared remarks, talked about many, many, not donald trump, not barack obama. but he did it there. hey, he did it there. the question is, we discussed before the president came out, what comes next? you know his critics will say, too little, too late. what is the test now? as jackie mentioned a minute ago. what happens during the next time there is some sort of racial incident or some sort of animosity? the same group that helped plan this event in charlottesville is planning an event in boston and the boston common this coming saturday. i mean, this incident and these, this kind of friction is not going away. right. so is president trump going away or going to keep speaking out about this and denounce these groups as they hold more events? excellent point. the hatemongers do what they do, pay to get attention. we saw in charlottesville. many carrying trump signs, there because of him, there to speak for him or he spoke for them. the president did some of that today but this is not certainly one statement will not make this go away. i m interested to see republicans who criticized him now react to this statement. i think that i would guess they would be happy he said this. think they ll, when asked say at least he made the statement. better late than never and happy about it, but as was said, racial tension in this country is fought going away. it s gotten a lot worse. these demonstrations will continue to happen. how does the president react then? take this as a learning, a lesson to be learned? and does he speak out forcefully and does the party, will they be satisfied by that going forward? but i do think at the moment he gives his party a little breathing room on what has become a dominating story the last couple days. this is on him. on him. this is on him. repeat myself. but when you hear this, oh, this is still a young administration. you know, understanding this is a presidential moment. not only the president but the entire white house has to jump in. it s seven months. and, again, you know, whether it s a mass shooting or a protest likes this that shouldn t take a meeting to figure out it s a challenge for the president of the united states to step up. shue it? denouncing nazis! really? that takes a lot of thought? i don t mean to be flippant about it. no. you don t have to be a young administration to not know to denounce nazis. why i don t i mean, mentioned john kelly earlier. supposed to come in and right the ship and this administration. you can t change the president. can t change the president. exactly the point i would make. he saw this as a huge problem saturday and everyone else in the administration. why they made the comments going further than the president, the last couple of days. the president seems to have been reluctant to come out here. perhaps why it took so long to ultimately say, i have to do this. there are two other measures i would watch. one is the reaction of the counterprotest community for lack of a better word. not just in charlottesville but across the u.s. in the next few days. there there be vigil, whatever? will those groups speak about against president trump or safred with the comments together? the hole is, fundamentally affecting bow the president s approach and republicans approach what we re asking. will they come back to support him and try to stick together as a party heading into the midterms or separate? whether this changes his overall numbers and his numbers inside the republican party, crucial metric to watch. may dictate what happens in the days to come. to the point we made coming up. waiting three days, get except igging to think we don t buy this. three days of crushing pressure to condemn nazi inch and racism. a valid point. whatever your politics. you mentioned, criticizing nazis, white supremacists, people who drive their cars into crowds should not be hard. somehow he made it hard. and the question, how long will this episode be lasting? will people remember this? will this haunt his administration going forward or be able to pivot? so many controversies over the past seven months. this could be the biggest. do you does they deal with it going forward. told by the white house team, as telling as it gets. the president insists on putting the economic remarks at the top of his statement before he got to his denunciation of the kkk and other hate groups. that was the president s call. thanks for joining us on inside politics. dealing with breaking news. wolf blitzer continues our coverage after a quick break. there s nothing more important than your health. so if you re on medicare or will be soon, you may want more than parts a and b here s why. medicare only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. you might want to consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like any medicare supplement insurance plan, these help pick up some of what medicare doesn t pay. and, these plans let you choose any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. you could stay with the doctor or specialist you trust. or go with someone new. you re not stuck in a network. because there aren t any. so don t wait. call now to request your free decision guide and find the aarp medicare supplement plan that works for you. there s a range to choose from, depending on your needs and your budget. rates are competitive. and they re the only plans of their kind endorsed by aarp. like any of these types of plans, they let you apply whenever you want. there s no enrollment window. no waiting to apply. so call now. remember, medicare supplement plans help cover some of what medicare doesn t pay. you ll be able to choose any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. whether you re on medicare now or turning 65 soon, it s a good time to get your ducks in a row. duck: quack! call to request your free decision guide now. because the time to think about tomorrow is today. # . hello. i m wolf blitzer. it s 1:00 p.m. in washington. 8:00 p.m. in jerusalem. wherever you re watching from around the world, thanks very much for joining us. we begin with breaking news. president trump calls out white sprim si sprem 1i6789 upremacists and no name. some of what we heard from the president only moments ago. racism is evil and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs. including the kkk, neo-
anthony scaramucci, his first interview since being fired from the white house. and prescription for savings. major pharmacies accused of letting customers pay more than they have to for generic drugs. tonight, how to make sure you save. and good evening. thanks for joining us on this a. i m tom llamas. we begin with that deadly chaos on the streets of charlottesville, virginia. the aftermath of the brutal eruption of violence sparked by white nationalists. new video you see it here. the deadly car attack. the driver charged with murder. accused of plowing his car in to a crowd of counter demonstrators. 20-year-old up james fields handcuffed at the scene. police say he was marching with white supremacists earlier. the faces of the victims, the young paralegal in the path of the car. two state troopers responding to the violence killed when the police helicopter went down. just a few miles away. and late this afternoon, the man who started the rally chased from the news conference by protesters. abc s eva pilgrim starts us off from charlottesville. reporter: charlottesville under siege, frightening moments, a car mowing down a crowd of people protesting against a white nationalist rally in charlottesville. tonight we re learning more about the man accused of driving that car, 20-year-old james fields. white sharia now! reporter: just before the attack, fields seen on video chanting a message of white power, marching with vanguard america, a known white supremacist group. hours later, fields allegedly carrying out his attack, witnesses watching in horror. the car came screaming down the street, and, uh, the driver gunned it into the crowd of people. it was pretty clear that the driver was intent on hitting 100, 200, 300 people. reporter: fields arrested shortly after, seen sitting in handcuffs. his mother saying she knew her son was driving from his home in northwest ohio to virginia for a rally. i didn t know it was white supremacist. i thought it had something to do with trump. trump s not a supremacist, i mean, he had an african-american friend. reporter: a former teacher now saying, even in high school fields made pro nazi comments. he well, he felt that it . he felt that the views that adolf hitler espoused were correct in some reporter: the group fields was marching with has a slogan, blood and soil. the idea, people with white blood have a special bond with american soil, one of a number hate groups protesting the planned removal of a confederate statue. tonight one of the organizers of the unite the right march, speaking out criticizing the city for shutting down the rally saturday morning. what happened yesterday was a result of the charlottesville police officers refusing to do their job! reporter: the city on high alert as counter protestors surround the area, snipers on the rooftop, state police on guard. a man rushing in, a woman tackling kessler, before he got up and ran away. the crowd chasing after him. you can see state police have fortunated a line here in riot gear to keep the crowd that was chasing jason kessler from getting to him. reporter: tonight the city remains in a state of emergency, police given powers to enforce a curfew if necessary to keep the peace. the governor defending his police force s response against what he called car terrorism. this was a great effort by the city, the state, our national guard, the state police, our local enforcement, the fbi, the department of homeland security. eva joins us live from charlottesville. this just in. eva, a vigil for tonight has been canceled? that s right, tom. the vigil was cancelled a short time ago due to a credible threat. a concern for safety. and authorities are looking for his motive tonight. authorities are also looking for a civil rights investigation. tomorrow? eva, thank you. across the country tonight, an outpouring of support for the victims caught in the chaos in charlottesville. in seattle, take a look at this, an anti-hate group and a pro trump group holding dueling rallies. and another crowd paying respect to two state troopers killed in a chopper crash. applauding police as they walk down main street. and tonight we re hearing from the mother of a young woman killed on the streets in what is being called an act of terror. here is stephanie ramos. reporter: tonight friends and family of the young woman killed in that crash telling abc news she died standing up for what she believed in. she wasn t just standing up for me, she was standing up for my sons in there and you know, all people of color. reporter: heather heyer was a paralegal, working a second job as a waitress. her mother tells us through tears, she was proud of her daughter. heather was a strong person who always defended what she believed in. reporter: heyer s final public facebook post, coming just days after the presidential election reading if you re not outraged, you re not paying attention. heather s life was not about hate. and this young man who ran my daughter down mistakenly believed that hate would change the world. reporter: and tonight, the virginia state police, marching in mourning. two of their own killed in a helicopter crash responding to the violence. berk bates and jay cullen, both veteran troopers and fathers. he was just a warm, loving dad and supportive dad, and he will be dearly missed. reporter: but some caught in the scuffle, lucky to be alive. this 19-year-old counter protestor tells us she didn t have time to run from the speeding car before being knocked to the ground. the minute i heard the screams was also the minute that i got hit. i didn t have time to react. reporter: in all, 35 people injured in that crash and the clashes. i got hit in the head. i have eight staples in my head. reporter: deandre harris says a group of white nationalists armed with shields and helmets beat him with poles. just called me the n word. told me to die. they were definitely trying to kill me. graphic scenes out there. stephanie ramos now from the scene of the car ramming. virginia s governor has asked that the white nationalists go home and stay out of here. are they listening to him? reporter: it seems as they are, tom. we haven t seen anything organized groups here in charlottesville. for the moment, people are heeding the warning from the governor. so many people coming here to where the car rammed into the people. this is where there is a growing makeshift memorial. people stopping by, singing to honor those who lost their lives. tom? we just saw someone put flowers behind you. thanks so much. let s turn now to the president facing backlash for his response to all the violence, refusing to specifically condemn the hatred unleashed by the white supremacists. instead choosing a blank quote, many, many sides. and a white house official clarifying the president s statement using words he have has yet to say in public. here is abc s david wright. reporter: today the white house struggled to stem the outrage over president trump s equivocal response to charlottesville. we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides. on many sides. reporter: of course that includes white supremacists, kkk neo-nazi and all extremist groups, an unnamed white house official explained today. but trump has yet to call out those groups for inciting the violence in virginia. today the president s national security advisor sat down with george stephanopoulos. do you consider the car attack in charlottesville yesterday an act of domestic terrorism? i certainly think any time that you commit an attack against people to incite fear, it is terrorism. reporter: but the president has yet to say so himself. a growing number of republicans are breaking ranks over this. senator ted cruz called the attack a grotesque act of domestic terrorism posting the nazis, the kkk, and white supremacists are repulsive and evil, and all of us have a moral obligation to speak out. call this white supremacism, this white nationalism evil and let the country and world hear it. i do think the president should clearly talk out more aggressively about it. reporter: trump has never hesitated to call out foreign enemies. we don t want radical islamic terrorists in our country. radical islamic terrorism. okay. we have to say the term. reporter: but he has tended to pull his punches when it comes to white nationalists like david duke. honestly, i don t know david duke. i don t believe i have ever met him. i m pretty sure i didn t meet him. and i just don t know anything about him. reporter: duke and his followers were strong trump supporters. he was in charlottesville yesterday. but even he took offense to the president s response to charlottesville. tweeting at trump, i recommend you take a good look in the mirror and remember it was white americans who put you in the presidency. david wright joins us now from bridge water, new jersey. david, the president is being criticized for his response but his daughter ivanka trump coming without much more forceful words? that s right. there is no place in society for racism, white supremacy and neo nazis. that is language her father has been unwilling to use. tom? david wright traveling with the president tonight. david, thank you. now to an abc news exclusive. the rise and fall of former white house communications director anthony scaramucci, fired after a whirlwind 11 days on the job. his reputation for being brash, outspoken, his first interview since leaving the white house. what he is saying about the trump administration. abc s gloria riviera. reporter: stoed former white house communications director anthony scaramucci saying the president should have taken a tougher stance on the violence in charlottesville. i think he needed to be much harsher as it related to the white supremacists and the nature of that. with the moral authority of the presidency, you have to call that stuff out. reporter: scaramucci warning chief strategist steve bannon and the so-called alt-right media group breitbart, is a snag on the president s agenda. i ve never sat down with steve bannon and said hey are you a white nationalist or a white supremacist? but i think the toleration of it by steve bannon is inexcusable. reporter: scaramucci and his brash demeanor lasted just 11 days in the white house. i love the president. i m more of a front stabbing person. if we don t stop the leaks, i m going to stop you. reporter: scaramucci today facing his bombastic comments from that explosive new yorker interview. okay, the mooch showed up the a week ago. reporter: showing no remorse about insulting his rival, ousted chief of staff reince priebus. reince is [ bleep ] paranoid schizophrenic, paranoiac. reporter: scaramucci accepts his firing and still has regrets. i wish they would have given me a bar of soap and told me to go wash my mouth out in the bathroom and move on. reporter: scaramucci also suggesting there are people inside the white house that are fighting against the president. against the president? i think there are people that are not necessarily abetting the president s interest or agenda. i absolutely believe that. reporter: we did reach out to white house chief strategist steve bannon for comment. he has not responded. tom? thanks so much. overseas tonight and the other major story, the looming showdown with north korea. the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff now in the region and the trump administration tries to scale back fears of two countries that sounds like they re on the brink of war. abc s global affairs correspondent martha raddatz. reporter: the top u.s. general arriving in south korea today at a time of escalating tensions. the trip has long been planned, but the timing critical, coming as two nuclear nations are trading threats. north korea saying it soon plans to send four missiles into the waters off guam. president trump responding that the u.s. is locked and loaded. despite the tough rhetoric, the trump administration saying this morning we aren t on the brink of war. i think we re not closer to war than a week ago, but we are closer to war than we were a decade ago. i ve heard folks talking about that we, being on the cusp of a nuclear war, i ve no intelligence to indicate that we re in that place today. reporter: but the bellicose tit-for-tat between two unpredictable leaders is fraying nerves in the region. many fearing, this time, the provocations may spark real conflict. two strong leaders. you don t know what s going to happen. i m kind of scared. reporter: we made the 35-mile trip to the border, to the demilitarized zone. whenever there are visitors to the dmz soldiers stand guard, soldiers from the u.s. and from south korea. we re of course on the south korean side, but where the gravel ends and the sand begins, that s north korea. some 14,000 north korean artillery pieces point at targets in the south, including south korea s capital, seoul, and the 26 million people who live in the area. this week, the u.s. military starts joint military exercises with the south korean military. as an annual exercise but tom, it feels more significant this year given the tensions. tom? 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reform. and steve mnuchin is asked to step down by his former classmates from jail. in a letter they say he should resign in protest of president trump s support of nazism and white supremacy. in a couple of hours two groups will be gathering in boston and there are some serious concerns about violence. just like we saw in charlottesville a week ago today. organizers there are holding a free speech rally, and just a few blocks away a counterprotest will be there against bigotry and hate. joining us now from boston, important distinction and separation here, unlike what we saw in charlottesville. they were right next to each other the protestors and counterprotestors. we ve got a bit of separation, i understand. that s right. they will start in two separate locations but eventually they will converge here at boston common. obviously that s where we see a lot of activity right now in the heart of downtown boston. but i can tell you that there will be this counterprotestors that will begin about two miles from here and then they will march here to boston common where this so-called free speech rally will be taking place. if you can stay away from this area this afternoon, do it. that s the advice that we heard from local officials yesterday as we heard from authorities. what s interesting here is that this will be a two-way street here, according to the city s mayor. just like they had to respect the organizers right to free speech, they will be asking for some of those demonstrators to respect the city s right for a safe environment. this is what we heard yesterday from march walg ahead of today s battle. i don t want them here. let me be clear. i do not want them here. if i could have not had them here with a permit, i absolutely would not have given them a permit if i didn t have to give them a permit. we don t need that type of rhetoric going on in boston common. we ve come too far. now, what s important to mention here is that both sides are calling for a, quote, peaceful demonstration today. however, given the heated rhetoric that we ve seen across the country, given also some of the mixed messaging that we have seen from president trump, there is concern that tensions could once again flare-up. as a result, we have seen significant security measures that have taken place. some of those concrete barriers that you may be able to see behind me. those weren t there yesterday. obviously authorities are concerned that those tensions could boil over. as we heard from officials yesterday, some of the security today, you will not be able to see. guys. thank you so much. want to bring in cnn white house correspondent athena jones now talking about the agoing fall out from frut s response to charlottesville. what s the white house doing this morning to try to fix some of this? hi, christi. we have seen the president tweeting this morning, but when it comes to dealing with the fallout, the only other response to the white house is that they are deciding not to take part in any of the festivities surrounding the kennedy center honors. this is, of course, a yearly gala at the kennedy center honoring artists and performers and entertainers of all sorts. we had seen reports of several of the honorees saying this they planned to skip the pregala reception at the white house in protest of the president. one of the honorees in particular, norman here a tv producer and writer. he created the show all in the family, even before the events in charlottesville last weekend, he said that he was not going to go to that gala. we also heard recently from a could you ban american singer songwriter who said that she was not going to go to the pregala presepgs at the white house. quote, in light of the socially divisive and morally caustic narrative that our current leadership is choosing to engage in. that is according to the washington post. and lionel richie, another honor e, the singer songwriter who said he was a friend of the president told nbc that he was a maybe. and so the white house put out a statement earlier this morning saying that they were not going to participate so that the hon oor he s could take part without political distraction. but christi, this is another sign of the backlash in response to the president s response to the violence in charlottesville last weekend and his many believe he was ekwauting the neo-nazis, kkk s and white supremacists with the counterprotestors who were protesting racism. we have talked about the business advisory councils that have been disbanded. the infrastructure council the white house decided to abandon before it even got off the ground. we are seeing charities decide not to hold events at the president s mar-a-lago resort in florida and of course we re seeing a growing number of republicans criticizing the president, many of them by name. this is just one more sign that in the wake of what the president has said about charlottesville, a lot of folks feel that being associated with him is toxic to their brand and to their own reputation. athena jones, great points to make. thank you so much. we appreciate it. and i want to continue this conversation with cnn contributor and washington post reporter. let s start with you. we want to put up on our screen what we know of the mar-a-lago situation in terms of at least 16 charities and organizations that have now pulled out their scheduled events at mar-a-lago because of what we ve seen from the president in the last couple of weeks. cleveland clinic for one i know, they ve had their event there for eight years. so this has been a tradition for them up to this point, as well as for others. what do you make of the fact that it seems now some of the backlash may be hitting the president s company, trump. it s very significant. the president s business, which he still owns, relies a lot on big gala events. hotels, golf courses and especially in mal which had this tradition of hosting really large, really expensive charity gal i can t see. some of these charities would pay trumps s club up to 270 thouds for one night tow a fund-raiser there. they had generally resisted are backing off of that. they wanted to stay at trump s club after all the controversies of trul s first term. in a week a huge part of those charities and a lot of phone have walked out the door leaving mal. that s a shine that even the closest community to president trump, one of the which is rich people in palm beach have decided to give up on him or they ve been abandoned by the corporate or national headquarters for those charities. a lot of lost money and prestige because the elite are not going to be coming to his club this winter when he s there. as we watch what is happening in boston, if there is any sort of violence there, how important is it for the president to respond? it s important that the president responds in a way that shows he is a leader who wants to help the country go forward and mend wounds and not open up new ones. when president trump said last week that many fine people were marching in this march, referring to this white unite rally, it is unconceivable to people, and this is why he s in so much trouble that there s no fine people that no matter why they show up at a march that they march with people who have nazi flags and swas stickas and other symbols of the nazi regime. many fine people do not march when those kinds of nazi flags and neo-nazis, anti-semieyesight and racists are there. if that s what happens in boston, then that deserves to be denounced. if it is a peaceful protest, people have a right to do that. no one is arguing that at this point. you ve had many officials saying well, i have to give them a permit. so it is important how president trump reacts. but with diminishing returns, because as david note, the damage is done. all right. and david, i want to pivot here a little bit to the fact that steve bannon is out of the white house now. and he was on breitbart and i want to read something that he said. he said i feel jacked up. now i m free. i ve got my hands back on my weapons. someone said it s bannon the bar bareian. i m definitely going to crush the opposition. there s no doubt. i built an expletive machine at breitbart and now i m about to go back knowing what i know. and we re about to rev that machine up. what does he know, david? that s a great question. so steve bannon has held a high security clearance in the government, something that s really hard to get in order to be part of president trump s national security discussions, which he was for a long time. that comes with restrictions. if you have a national security clearance, you can t just walk out the door and black and blue what you knew from your security clearance to a news outlet including a news outlet you maybe happen to be the head of. so i don t think if he means that, if he s going to bring some sort of classified or other secret information out of the white house or if he s just going to bring what is sort of the inside analysis that breitbart has already been trumpeted long before he got out of the white house, which was gary cohn and the other folks in the west wing that they call globalists, people that support and don t support the sort of economic or ethnic nationalism that bannon has been talking about, if he s just going to come out and say gary cohn is bad, breitbart has been saying that a long time and it seems like it hasn t swayed the president. we look forward to what the president has to deal with policy eyes. there s a deficit that he s going to have to deal with along with republicans in the fall, and that s going to have to be reconciled. is he too politically isolated do you think at this point? is there talk that this political isolation he seems to have is going to hinder him from getting anything done? absolutely it will. the approach of the white house, the bannon eyesight particularly have been to treat congress, run by republicans, as if they were some compliant board of directors. that s not how it works. they re not there to just carry out an order from the chief executive. and the white house has yet to recognize that their friends are the republicans. and you talk to them and you negotiate. this is the art of the deal president, who doesn t seem to grasp that you have independently elected people, third party government, all the basic stuff here that we thought a white house that has any level of i mean, i think people in the white house know this, but the president hasn t been acting as if he wants to put out his agenda. and one more point. on the wall, he said mexico was going to pay for it. he needs to explain why he s asking congress to write the check. david, still hitting on the economy here because this is what a lot of people voted for him for. they believed that he was going to bring jobs back, that he was going to secure the markets. now that this council on manufacturing jobs has been dissolved because it was a mass exodus of it, what is the president s economic plan? what does this mean for tax reform? well, i don t think it bodes anything good for tax reform. seems to have the same problem that health care did. president trump says he wants reform done, but he doesn t eem to have any sort of strong ysds about what he wants that reform to be. without the president being involved in the details of that and having an gd for what he wants and doesn t want other than just a win, it s really hard to negotiate with congress, even a p are congress because there s no give-and-take. the reason president was good at the art of the deal with real estate was he understood the terms you were negotiating on. he doesn t seem to have grasped that on health care and he doesn t seem to be getting that on tax reform either. if he doesn t get immersed in that, i don t see how he can get it done even with a republican congress. all right. always grateful to have your voice in this. thank you. thank you. all right. let s take it to berlin. moments ago we got some video here, of neo-nazis and counterprotestors facing off here. appear to be a bit of a scuffle here with police, but this did not last long. nothing like what we saw in charlottesville last week. it was quickly separated. and the nazis there, you see here, the police kind of pushing some people along. the nazis there are marking the anniversary of the death of rudolf hess, who was adolph hitler s deputy. hess was killed rather killed himself in prison. it was about 30 years ago. police are not taking any chances. we know they are quick to this one after the violence they watched here in the u.s. three separate attacks on law enforcement officers, two in florida and one in pennsylvania overnight. we re talking about that as well. what police say happened. we have details for you. stay close. i kept looking for ways to manage my symptoms. i thought i was doing okay. then it hit me. managing was all i was doing. when i told my doctor, i learned humira is for people who still have symptoms of moderate to severe crohn s disease even after trying other medications. in clinical studies, the majority of people on humira saw significant symptom relief and many achieved remission. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you ve been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you ve had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don t start humira if you have an infection. just managing your symptoms? 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confederate monuments have nothing to do with any of our american history, except treason and domestic terrorism. they were put up post reconstruction to terror eyes black families, to scare them because of their demand to be treated as equal american citizens. i may have issue with other parts of our american history, but there is nothing that americans should unite around more than tearing down monuments to bigotry and racism and domestic terrorism. well, one of her rivals for race for governor on the gop michael williams says the monuments should stay where they are. i don t want to know where she draws the line. let me make myself clear, i do not support defacing stone mountain or any of our monuments and i do not want rewriting georgia s history. joining me now michael williams, candidate for georgia govern r. did you hear there what the representative said and what s your response. i did and what you didn t play back was her comments after the fact when you specifically asked her to denounce the rioting and looting i asked her twice. she refused to do that. she refused to denounce the rioting and the looting going on in the streets. and to me she s pandering to the far left. she s fearmongering and she s using this racial divide for political gain and it s unsuccessful. definitely not indicative of a leader. specifically i just want to be clear. i didn t ask her about rioting and looting. i asked her about defacing the monuments, the one that was snatched down in durham, the one that was tarred and etf erred and she did not after asking her twice condemn those. people in the streetsic braing the law. absolutely. so let me ask you this. you asked the slippery slope question, if we start with jefferson davis and we start with stonewall jackson and robert e. lee, are washington and jefferson next? what s the distinction for you between those figures, lee and jackson and jefferson and washington? they re all monuments. they re all monday ults of our past that we need to protect and preserve. again, where is this going to end? is it going to end of exploding of the washington monument? we ve already got bills right now being dropped in the senate to pull out all these confederate monuments from the capitol. i ve got the statement. what s the difference to you between the generals of the confederacy and the first and third presidents of the united states. to me there s no difference. all part of our past, our history. so there s no difference between the man who fought a war to create the country and the men who fought a war to divide the country? again, you re taking this, in my mind, down the wrong path. this is part of our history. the battle of that war was a horrific war, but it s parted of our history. we can t erase it, go back and change that. we need to move forward, focus on uniting our country together. all of this is being done to divide our country and to discredit or president and destroy the presidency. i think there were people calling for confederate monuments to be removed long before donald trump even launched his candidacy for president. obama was in the white house for eight years. he had eight years to do this but now because donald trump is the president all of a sudden it s a big issue. people are trying to use this it predates obama. we know that the monuments started to go up in the jim crower era. you said from your perspective there s no difference between general lee, general jackson, jefferson davis and the presidents of the united states. so my question to you is your understanding of what these generals represent to african americans across the country, that they launched a war to divide the country based on the premise of slavery. again, when you look at america, almost two-thirds of americans are completely fine with having an moumts, even those for the confederacy, and less than half of who did npr did a poll on that. and less than blacks are even concerned about this. this is a fabricated issue to undermine the presidency and do everything they can to ruin him. but this is an issue to people who see these images as they were put up during the jim crow era as representatives of the institution of slavery of a government that was created, the confederacy specifically on the premise of white supremacy. again, it might be an issue to a few people out there. why are we not talking about some of the bigger issues? why are we not talking about how georgia has failing schools where 70,000 children have top attend every single year. why are we not talking about economic development. but yet we re talking about how to further divide our country. we don t need to have this a platform any more. but you re running to be a gofrp r of all georgians. i m going to take that survey on its face, less than half of blacks believe this is a problem, are their kerps not valid? no, they re definitely valid. and we can talk about them. but blowing up stone mountain, erasing our history is not the answer. the answer to me is us coming together, figuring out how we can get along, how we can work together, how we can bring our country together moving forward focus onning on the future, not the past. there are some people who question our future considering what we heard from the president. let me ask you about this specifically. you were one of the earliest, if not the earliest i was the first elected official in georgia to come out and support president trump, yes. absolutely. so let me ask you now, do you support the president s distinction that there were some very fine people protesting with the nazis. again, he came out and he denounced white nationalists, supremacists, neo-nazis, kkk. he denounced did that on monday and then on tuesday we ve not heard anything from him since tuesday. i don t believe there s any single thing the president can do other than resign that s going to make you happy. well, there s not us because there s now 23 republican lawmakers who are calling him out by name saying specifically from tim scott that he is out of touch with the moral fabric of the country. there s a bunch of i think that s a yes or no. i think this is a yes or no and i m going to hold you to that if you can give it to me. do you support, do you agree with the president s summation, his assessment that there were very fine people who were protesting the president with his denouncing of all hate groups including the kkk, white nationalist and all the hate groups. i completely support and support the president. and you can t say if you stand at a nazi rally that they re not essentially very fine people? again, what about the black lives matter that chant pigs in a blanket fly like bacon. and we talked about that. but you ve gotten the opportunity to talk approximate that. let me move on to something else. in june you were pictured with members of the georgia security force 3% militia. correct. southern poverty law center calls them anti-muslim hate group, espouses anti-government rhetoric. so here is the picture. there s pay man on the far right of the screen, michael ray months, who was a former member of the group when that fatty oh was taken. he s now been identified as one of the men who attacked did he andre harris in charlottesville last weekend. you re in this picture with him. do you know him. i do not know him. how did this picture come about? i was at a political event and a group of people, those guys, came up to me and said can you take your picture with us. and i said sure. so a picture was taken. okay. so do you have any affiliation, any more than this photo with georgia security force. i have no affiliation with them whatsoever. and, again, i ve been learning about this gentleman, and if he has done if he s broken a law, he needs to be prosecuted, to the fullest extent of the law. there is no room in this country for hate and violence. let me ask you about this. after president trump s remarks on tuesday, that group, georgia security force and you say you don t know anything about the group but you re running to be georgia governor, georgia security force posted this on its facebook page. it s a letter from ront e. lee written about president peers in 1856 but they posted it after president trump s remarks. and i m going to read just a couple of excerpts from it. they started with i was much preesd with the president s message. his views of the systematic and progressive efforts of certain people of the north to interfere with and change the domestic institutions of the south are truthfully and faithfully expressed. they go on to include from lee s letter the blooks are i am measurableel better off here than in africa. morally, physically and socially. the painful discipline they re undergoing is necessary for their further instruction as a race and will prepare them, i hope, for better things, speaking of slavery there. you re running to be georgia gofrp or, governor of all georgians. all georgians. what is your message to the georgia security force. well, my message to them is that we need to unite. we need to come together. we need to put aside all our racism, our hate and work together as georgians to better georgia for all of us. again, there is no room in our society for racism of any shape, form or fashion. we have to come together, strengthen ourselves and make georgia great. all right. senator michael williams. candidate for governor. goods to have you in. pleasure. thank you so much. white supremacists are refusing treatment in emergency rooms. all over the country simply because their doctor is not white. an aaronian american doctor is joining us next to share her experience with racism in the emergency room. we asked people to write down the things they love to do most on these balloons. travel with my daughter. roller derby. now give up half of em. do i have to? this is a tough financial choice we could face when we retire. but, if we start saving even just 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week. and now some medical professionals say they re actually having experiences with racism in the er. doctorester shoe, an asian american physician, says her conversations with racist patients usually go like this. this is from her. she says i understand your viewpoint. i trained at elite institutions and have been practicing for 15 years. you re welcome to refuse care under my hands, but i feel confident that i m the most qualified to care for you. especially since the alternative is an intern. she goes on to say that patients pick the intern as long as the intern is white. or they leave. doctor chew is joining us now. thank you so much for being with us. your words have resonated with a lot of people on twitter. how expansive, first of all, is an experience like this in the medical community. well, what i m hearing from my colleagues is that this is a daily occurrence for many of them, at least experiences of prejudice. the patient who out right refuses care is less common, but i definitely heard from a lot of people this week that they have also had that exact same experience as the one that i described. but you say so how often has that happened to you where they absolutely out rieft refused care. you know, i ve practiced for 15 yoors and it s been a handful of times. maybe two or three times a year. so it s not a common or everyday experience, but it s also not a terribly surprising one. so what kind of conversations are you having with people who have experienced the same thing and trying to just do your duty? you know, you have a duty to help anybody. yeah. i mean, i ve heard from many, many people this week, and most people have never talked about it before. and actually, that twitter thread that you read is the first time that i ve really talked about it before. i think many of us have enkournd a ton of prejudice in our practices. we almost consider it a routine part of our jobs. and then every now and then there s a really extreme event, an interaction with a patient who is so intolerant that they just don t want to be treated by a physician based on razor some other characteristic of the physician, maybe it s that they re from another country or because of their religious beliefs or their sexual orientation or their gender. but i m hearing it from a lot of physicians that this is not unusual. how at risk are patients that do that. in terms of their health? they re coming to the e re. so it s serious, we know that, that the condition yeah, for me for me working in the emergency department, it tends i tend to take care of a sicker patient population. i m also hearing from my peers who take care of patients in primary care settings or in clinics where, you know, patients may not be critically ill and they have more time to talk through it and they re dealing with stable patients. but certainly in the emergency department we are working with patients who can be quite ill. and so that is a it s a tough decision to have to make. and this has been this is not a brand-new dialogue. last year the new england journal of medicine published analogy oh rhythm on how you can talk to a patient who comes into the emergency department and says they do not want to be taken care of by a physician on duty because of race. so it s a topic that we re grappling with. patients have a right to withhold consent. doctors have an obligation to provide care. is there any legal concern you have here, perhaps that somebody could come back and say i didn t get the care that i needed, even though they refused it? yes. i think we all want to give the best care possible at all times. i mean, as soon as the patient walks into my care, i want what s best for them. and so that is always the first priority. but we have to balance that with our desire to create a safe and respectful working environment for our health care work force. i think nobody wants to be taken care of by physicians who feel harassed or don t feel safe there. we want them equipped to give the best care possible. and so it is a balance and certainly want to make sure that patients are stable to refuse care and that they are also not delirious and intoxicated and somehow not in their right mind before we decide that they really have capacity to make the decision to refuse care. and how often have you been able to change somebody s mind and treat them after they initially said they did not want treatment? a few times i ve been able to talk patients into receiving care from me. or we can negotiate some sort of compromise where they will be seen by mab a rbt physician who is white and i m still guiding care and i don t actually enter the room. usually you cannot, in i found in my experience that you cannot talk people out of their ideology. doctor choo, we ve had all these conversations about racism. i don t think a lot of us even thought of it happening the way it s happening in your personal experience. thank you for sharing. my pleasure. thank you for having me. 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saved over a million families millions of dollars on life insurance. today there s a public memorial service being held for virginia state trooper jay cullen. take a look at the live pictures here in just a bit. those are the two officers, he and trooper pilot brook bates, killed last saturday in the helicopter crash flying over and assisting with the violent rally in charlottesville. assisting, trying to keep things under control. the funeral for bates was yesterday, governor terry mcauliffe was among those who attended the service, cnn correspondent diane gallagher is in chesterfield with more and i can see behind you the legion of officers who are coming there. that s right, victor. i ll step out of the way so you can see they re starting to gather here a few moments ago. many of those officers and troopers on the motorcycles came through. they were escorting in a sort of blacked-out bus, which we believe had the loved ones of lieutenant jay cullen. this man donated more than two decades of his life to the virginia state police. he had just taken over the command of the aviation unit of the virginia state police in february of this year. 48-year-old leaves behind two teenaged sons. one of whom is going to be getting his senior year of high school this year. he and trooper bates were in the helicopter, doing video monitoring of the white nationalist, neo-nazi rally there in charlottesville. helping the police try to get a better idea of exactly the way things were spreading and going on at the time. when it crashed near a golf course on saturday afternoon. a week ago today. trooper bates was buried yesterday. you mentioned of course, governor mcauliffe attending that funeral, he and other state officials, such as senator tim kaine are expected to be here today as well. governor mcauliffe mentioned how deeply personal this is for him this aviation unit, they take them places, they make sure that the governor and our dignitaries in the state of virginia get where they need to go safely and quickly. and so these were men that he was well acquainted with. that he knew, that he spent time with. afterward, when he spoke, he talked about how deeply moved and touched he was, how difficult this was for him here of course, lieutenant cullen is the last of the three people killed on saturday in the charlottesville area. to be buried, heather heyer having her memorial earlier. trooper bates, things are expected to get under way, not too different from now, we re seeing some of the honor guard come in at this point right now. underneath that flag. that they have here, to honor lieutenant cullen. we re expecting this to last at least a couple of hours today before the burial at this point. to sort of avoid and let virginia and especially charlottesville heal and get to a point where they don t have so much strife right now. at least while they re dealing with it governor mcauliffe signed an executive order yesterday. that will limit the number of, the number of, limit any sort of public protests until they can get a handle on things near the emancipation park outside the lee statue where all the things began on saturday. but of course, today, victor, christi, the real thing that everyone is focusing on is the life, memory and service of lieutenant jay cullen. diane gallagher for us in chesterfield. thank you so much. we re following some developments in boston right now. we ve got live pictures for you here. this is where protesters are gathering right now. they say to march against hate. and bigotry. we will of course show you more of this, it s scheduled to start in about two hours. but as we saw last week, the crowds gather obviously hours before. there was one scuffle this morning. nothing serious, though. and hundreds of police officers we should point out, they are on hand to try to keep things peaceful. we have a live report for you coming up at the top of the hour in a couple of minutes, do stay close. isaac hou has mastered 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attack him on twitter. now to the reason why the merck ceo resigned. it took the president two days to criticize the presence of neo-nazis and white supremacists on the streets in our country which this weekend resulted in charlottesville in a loss of life. and tonight after a grim weekend for the american presidency, the president of the united states is back at trump tower. you re looking at a live picture. and in part because of what happened this weekend, the crowds are large and loud in midtown manhattan, about five blocks from here. we have for you tonight a look at the president s comments just after 3:30 p.m. on saturday afternoon, and then over 45 hours later today back at the white house. we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides. racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs including the kkk, neo-nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as americans. we are starting to learn what was going on behind the scenes during those 45 intervening hours. associated press correspondent jonathan lemire, who will join us here momentarily, loath to appear to be admitting to a mistake, trump was reluctant to address his remarks. the media s unfair assessment of his remarks believing he had effectively denounced all forms of bigotry. new chief of staff john kelly had urged him to make a more specific condemnation warning that the negative story would not go away and the rising tide of criticism from fellow republicans on capitol hill could endanger his legislative agenda, according to two white house officials. and the president is still blaming the media, writing this on twitter tonight made additional remarks on charlottesville and realize once again that the fake news media will never be satisfied. truly bad people. put another way, his statement today was to satisfy the news media, not to satisfy americans that what we saw in charlottesville this weekend does not define who we are. it did seem to define the alt right, though, the grab bag of nationalist causes and then some represented in the tiki torch march on the uva campus friday night. another story from the ap tonight carries the headline, white nationalists, charlottesville just a beginning. the leader of the movement named matthew heimbach as saying we re going to be more active than ever before. richard spencer from the alt right held a press conference today and said the following about the president. we saw in donald trump someone who wasn t a conservative. donald trump never talked about tax or at least during the campaign, he never talked about tax cuts. he never talked about all these he was not all this just kind of conservative garbage that we ve been hearing for years. he talked about immigration first and foremost. he was a nationalist. he used phrases like america first. donald trump is not alt right, not an identitarian, but hes with connected to him in this kind of psychic level where donald trump was a nationalist, he was the first true authentic nationalist in my lifetime. that was from this afternoon. there was also this tonight, the latest daily tracking numbers from gallup show this could indeed be hurting the president s job approval rating. this is a poll, mind you, taken from friday to sunday showing president trump at a new record low of 34%. after all that, let s bring in our leadoff panel tonight. white house reporter for the associated press, jonathan lemire, whose voice you heard last week peppering the president at bedminster. he was on hand for the president s remarks saturday and today at the white house. former u.s. congressman, harold ford, democrat of tennessee, now an msnbc political analyst. and from washington, charlottesville native anita kumar, white house correspondent for mcclatchy newspapers. welcome to you all. jonathan, i d like to begin with you. you are neither the president s apologist nor therapist, but this will call for all your donald trump knowledge. what in his psyche prevents him from going out to make this right for two days, resist calling out nazis, alt right, white supremacists, white nationalists and forces him to ad lib on many sides the part of his remarks that caused the most trouble? president trump is never one to acknowledge a mistake. it is very rare that he accepts responsibility. it s very rare that he wants to publicly second guess himself or seem like he s caving to public pressure. he s susceptible to flattery. these are groups who speak highly of him. he knows that he s people, some of them, support him. he recognizes that they are small but energize part of the coalition of people that backed him last november. on saturday, when he came out to give his initial statement in bedminster. he told people around him he wanted to focus on the law and order aspect of this. he said, on many sides, which will resonate with this president for some time, then he felt like he did his job. over the last two days a firestorm of bipartisan criticism. people around him recognized that this is something that could really damage him going forward. they talked to him. he was reluctant he told people around him he was upset, thought he was being treated unfairly, but he was eventually persuaded that he needed to go to the white house today and give this new more forceful statement. congressman, are you convinced to your satisfaction, that the portion of the president s base made up of these folks in charlottesville and people sympathetic maybe even secretly or quietly to their cause, that s why he took something off his rhetorical fastball on saturday? i ve heard the commentary. i have no reason to not believe jonathan. i have no reason to not believe those who say this is all about his base. but you have to wonder on a level, there are two groups that he s coddled and defended without hesitation. russians who may have apparently interfered with the election process, claiming he didn t know them or didn t know much about them and was reluctant to answer. his fallback is always fake news when he doesn t like what people in the press are talking about. there s a 32-year-old woman who is dead. i m not blaming the president, but there s nothing fake about her death. for this president to continue to put up this facade, it s laughable at one level and tragic on a very real level. three, you watch him and you have to wonder when he talks about fake news as well, what is the news media blocking him from getting accomplished in congress? there s a republican congress that is now talked with a high ranking republican official before dinner who said you saw pence who halfway did it from overseas, he came back to clean it up because he wanted to be accepted at the white house, but orrin hatch who invoked his own family. it will be curious if they maintain that posture going forward or stand up to him. the fake news moniker going forward, we ll have to wait and see. i said it before. i think terry mcauliffe, his words because he was right away the one that reassured and soothed america, but the most troubling thing about this and the president, i appreciate him being on record criticizing the alt right and white supremacists, but he didn t criticize their behavior. he didn t lecture like he lectured the ceo of merck saying you re going to go back and lower drug prices, a little cute shootback at him, to not say to white supremacists, this is not what america is, not what my campaign is about, not what my presidency aspires to be about says more about him than what he didn t do on saturday. anita kumar, what a great community you are from, what a great university you were fortunate enough to attend. i m guessing that growing up in charlottesville you did not associate anything there with the alt right, with white nationalists, with neo-nazis or the kkk, and yet, sadly, that great place is going to be tied at least in our memory at least for some time with those awful causes. no. i mean, anyone who knows charlottesville, it s a small liberal college town. so it s very steeped in history, though, so there are the statues. i can see this disagreement happening, but to keep hearing charlottesville, it s very jarring to me, every time i hear it because no one really talks about it in that way. and just hearing about it, this small town being on the map like this, it s incredible. anita, five blocks from here the president is in new york. right. his first night as president in the place, the steel and glass tower, the triplex he calls home in trump tower, and yet you see the sand-filled dump trucks at the entrance. that s a relatively new secret service vehicle control method. and yet because of his own doing, the crowds are larger, the crowds are louder than they were during the campaign. right. i mean, he did come out and have a do-over, if you will, today, and he said what he needed to say. but the question is, it took so long, is that still going to hurt him? is it too late? he also didn t say a couple things. the congressman mentioned one thing, there were two other things he didn t say that people pointed out today that they wanted to hear. one he didn t use the word terrorism. now members of his staff have. i believe the attorney general did, the national security adviser did. but people wanted to hear him say domestic terrorism. it s a question of whether it s enough. the other thing he didn t say was he didn t talk about he didn t denounce them and say, these aren t my supporters. he didn t really say that either way. i know people were sort of waiting for him to say i denounce these people. they aren t my supporters. they aren t part of who i want to support me. i m reading from the screen on my phone. the president has just said on twitter, feels good to be home after seven months, but the white house is very special. there is no place like it. and the u.s. is really my home. jonathan, last week at bedminster, the president almost didn t stop talking when cameras were around. a huge departure. how much of it has to do with the fact that he had an enemy in the subject matter? he had comfort zone around him but north korea was the story in chief? i think that s exactly right. the president, when he feels back on his heels, his instinct is to find an enemy and punch, counterpunch. mitch mcconnell took some of that last week at bed minster. this is a president who rarely talks with the media. he hasn t had a full fledged press conference since february. he ll take a question or two at a bill signing, but it s rare. two days he had four different media events where he took a total of 50 questions, more than 50 questions from the press pool and sometimes making eye contact with reporters. the most in six months. exactly right. seeking questions, like give me more. and he seemed to engage and clearly delivering his message. the tough guy bravado, these threats to north korea. we get to saturday, charlottesville happens, we re still at bedminster, he delivers his statement and he walks off. shouted questions, do you renounce these white nationalists who support you? was this an act of terrorism? nothing. today he ignored our questions until he singled on one tv reporter and accused them of being fake news, which is his go-to defense mechanism when he doesn t like what he s being asked. before we talk about the slightly thornier issue of this president and race, using david duke as an example, we have an example here on videotape separated by several years of what the president said then and what the president said more recently. what do you see as the biggest problem with the reform party right now? well, you ve got david duke just joined, a bigot, a racist, a problem. i mean, this is not exactly the people you want in your party. will you unequivocally condemn david duke and say you don t want his vote or other white supremacists in this election? just so you understand, i don t anything about david duke, okay? i don t even know anything that you re talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists. give me a list of groups and i ll let you know. i m just talking about david duke and the ku klux klan, though. i don t know david duke. i haven t met him or i don t think i met him. i just don t know anything about him. i m a law school graduate at the university of michigan, go blue, and those are the kind of things you can t wait for having a witness on the stand and being able to show a video like that. what happened in the last 17 years. a young matt lauer, by the way, but what happened over the last 17 years that made him change his mind. surely in campaigns, and it happens every year, people say things and do things that they regret that oftentimes are beneath who they are and you hope once in office they rise to the occasion. he has not risen to the occasion but i m interested here how he reconciles that. i couldn t agree more with anita moore. and the point i was trying to make was george bush gave one of the greatest speeches ever after 9/11. president obama many moments he rose to the occasion and brought america together. this president unfortunately may have a moment where he has to look us in the eye and talk about committing young men and women to parts of the world to defend freedom and defend us. you got to hope over the next few days he will take a moment to remind us all that david duke doesn t represent anything he wants and anyone that believes that he would support people who represent their principles they re sadly mistaken. that s what will allow him, if these reports are correct that john kelly urged him to speak, i m glad his voice is being heard her, his influence is being felt here, that s the only way an agenda will get pushed through the congress. anita, the president is home in new york with phone in hand and has just retweeted somebody else s post showing 39 shootings in chicago this weekend. 9 deaths. no national media outrage. why is that? again, not the president s words, but the president retweeting it. this could be an interesting couple hours at home, anita. it can. we usually see this more early in the morning. we might see that tomorrow morning, too. he tends to do this when he was annoyed and he clearly was annoyed today in that back and forth with cnn s jim acosta at the white house. he had something that he wanted to he had a message today. i think we ve all probably forgotten. he was supposed to come back to washington to talk about chinese trade practices and he had a message there. it was totally overshadowed by charlottesville and what s been going on and his response. so he did want to talk about that. he did want to be tough on china and have that message get across and he just does not like it when his message is overrun. so we re going to see him talk about all sorts of other things and lash out at the media. our great thanks to our starting panel tonight, harold ford, jonathan lemire, anita kumar. we ll witness the president snapping at a reporter at the white house today and why so many believe what we witnessed this weekend in charlottesville was a leadership test and how previous presidents have handled the crises that were dealt to them. and later in our broadcast tonight, new developments on the russia front including this washington post story breaking tonight on that subject, all of it when the monday night edition of the 11th hour continues. i can hear you, the rest of the world hears you, and the people and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon. amazing grace how sweet the sound powerful stuff to see it all over again, isn t it? different presidents consoling the american people in different ways after different types the of national tragedy. president trump was handed a leadership test this weekend in the form of an awful tragedy in charlottesville. we will talk about it tonight with two pulitzer prize winner. presidential historian, author, biographer of jefferson, jackson, fdr, churchill most recently bush 41, our friend john meecham is with us. we welcome back clarence page, columnist for the chicago tribune. before we begin our conversation i have two separate pieces of business to play for you both on videotape. the first, we don t have many people walking around who worked for four presidents. i found that people listen up when they do talk, at least sensible people. in is david gergen tonight on cnn. he cannot address the hatred in the country until he addresses the hatred in his own heart. that was powerful. that got our attention. and here was the exchange earlier today, again, this is cnn correspondent jim acosta asking the president questions after his statement on camera. mr. president can you explain why you did not condemn the by name on the weekend. they ve been condemned. why are we not having a press conference today? you said on friday we d have a press conference. we had a press conference. we just had a press conference. can we ask you more questions then, sir. i like real news not fake news. you re fake news. haven t you spread a lot of fake news yourself, sir? okay, john meecham, that s where we are. you ve seen the weekend we ve just endured. part of david gergen s comments tonight, he mentioned his childhood in north carolina growing up with the kkk as a presence as a young kid in that state, and he worried that this is going to start tearing people apart. well, it s been tearing us apart since the civil war. you know, i come from tennessee, i grew up on a civil war battlefield, missionary ridge which is where douglas macarthur s father won his medal of honor when he was 17. i remember standing on that ridge watching riots in chattanooga in 1980 after an all-white jury acquitted a klansman in a drive-by shooting of an african-american woman. i remember my grandfather saying as he watched the smoke rising from the city that the jury didn t let the facts get in the way of their bigotry and that was a damn shame. so this is tragically a recurring feature in the american story. what we have hoped for in the past and what we ve often had in the past are presidents who address our better angels, who let us hear the whisper of those wings. sometimes it s just a whisper, but we are, in fact, inspired by those who encourage us to hope as opposed to letting us fear. and right now the 45th president of the united states is encouraging a climate of fear. clarence, where do you think your country and your presidency stands after the weekend we ve just witnessed? well, it is a test for all of us, i think, brian. you know, when john meecham talks about the past, i think about how i became politicized in grade school when i saw national guard troops escorting black students into little rock high school i m sorry, i shouldn t say national guard. it was actually the airborne. president eisenhower called in to replace the arkansas national guard in order to escort black students into little rock central high school in arkansas, and i said to my parents, what happened? because things had changed overnight. and they said, president eisenhower. and i was too young to know about the presidency, but i thought president eisenhower was a title in itself like emperor. and i said who will be the next president eisenhower when this president eisenhower is gone? that stuck with me all these years because that s when i first got interested in politics because i could see that washington and government means something. when i hear people putting down government and talking about the dark bureaucracy or the deep state, i really take offense at that because our government means a lot. it is government of the people, by the people and for the people and should be. it disturbs me when president trump does not show a serious attitude toward government and seems to think that because he made it in real estate he can manage the government. we re talking about people. you re talking about folks like you and me and all the other folks out there watching. over this weekend we did not see the kind of leadership folks want. from what i hear even david duke is upset tonight because trump caved into the liberal media as he puts it. that s not the kind of spirit we want running this country. john, clarence just put his fing right on it. the sense of stewardship that to watch over and care for all of us and all these things greater than us that comes traditionally with the job of the presidency. franklin roosevelt said that the presidency is preeminently a place of moral leadership. it is, in fact it s a strange office. it s developed in ways that the founders on this very day in 1787, 230 years ago, were drafting the articles, debating the articles about what a president would be like, and i don t think they could have foreseen this role of chief executive party leader but also of pastor of a kind of national pastor. and when president roosevelt the only words fdr spoke on d-day in public in 1944 was to read a prayer of his own composition. bill clinton went to oklahoma city after the terrible bombing there in 1995 and quoted st. paul. george herbert walker bush when he read an nra fund-raising letter that referred to them as jackbooted thugs he sat down and wrote a letter of resignation saying that offended his sense of decency and service to country. the presidency is an office that s inherently political but constitutionally it plays a different role in the life of the country and the 45th president, i think it s clear to most people at this point, is not commensurate with that task. i ll quote someone here for the first time tonight, the noted political scientist bryan cranston who said on social media when he saw the president finally appear at the white house today, it had all the appearance of a hostage tape to him, the way the president was reciting the kind of by now necessary lines that he had to do because of the damage done this weekend. i also note, clarence, he topped it with kind of economic news, bad trade deals, a surging wall street before he got to the subject in chief. and just moments ago president trump sent a tweet out about chicago s terrible homicide rate. he s changing the subject, brian, that s not a sign that makes you feel really confident about leadership. the president stepped on his own message today about trade once again. he obviously has this well, the catastrophe there in virginia on his mind, his plunging poll numbers, all this is happening and he s trying to put a strong face on it, but he won t do a news conference. he walks out of the room when reporters ask him questions. he doesn t present a portrait of strength right now and that s sad. we have to go beyond partisanship here and talk about the good of the country and this is a time for people to be pulling together and i m happy most americans right now seem to be forging ahead on this and but still wondering what s going on in washington. well, here, here, and to our viewers i give you two living reasons why the pulitzer jury is rarely wrong. john meecham, clarence page, recipients both. gentlemen, thank you for your time on this monday night as we try to get our arms around at what we witnessed this past weekend. coming up after another break for us, the republican party went running from the president this weekend in droves. plus the trump staffer who is being called an internal exile in the west wing these days. we re back with more after this. welcome back. as we mentioned it took president trump two days to condemn by name the white nationalists and neo-nazis responsible for the deadly violence in charlottesville this weekend. he paid a very heavy price for that within his own party. senators marco rubio, jeff flake, orrin hatch, cory gardner among those republicans who criticized the president directly for not renouncing racism sooner. others condemned the attack the day it happened using much stronger language than the president directly denouncing groups labeling it domestic terrorism. the chair of the republican national committee had strong words for the president and the party as a whole. here now michael steele from our 8:00 p.m. hour this evening talking to joy reid. this is the seminal moment for the republican party. you re going to be defined by the stench that comes from this. the country is watching, the country wants a response. you can t on the one instance say this is terrible privately and then publicly hem and haw and figure out a way to sort of smooth over hurt feelings in the white house. that s not what this is about. this is about how you hold a country together. this is your lincoln moment as a republican, mr. president. joining us to talk about this, former u.s. republican congressman david jolly of florida and jonathan lamire from the ap has agreed to stay here with us. congressman, you ve been on a ballot with that r after your name. how are you feeling about your party and your country after the weekend we just witnessed? michael is right. this is a defining moment. this president has given validation to an alt right white nationalist movement and waited two days too long to denounce it. bigger picture, though, brian, listen, republicans right now are facing a reminder that this president is unprepared to lead. on saturday they knew he was parsing his words in which case he was accommodating a white nationalist movement or he did it in. you like to talk about tomorrow s news today. my fear in his statement today, it was all the right words, two days too late. my fear is that tomorrow we start to see mainstream conservatives accept that statement and start to build moral equivalency with other groups like black lives matter on the left. i would say to republicans do not do that. there s no equivalency. black lives matter and those groups are asking for racial equality. the alt right white nationalist movement is asking for racial supremacy. do not follow this president down that road. we ve seen previous occasions i just wrote down a feel, mccain, mr. con, the federal judge, our own megyn kelly, where republicans were tough, they came out in response and they were tough. will this be one of those? it s possible. this is certainly the third rail of american politics are not neo-nazis. right. these are things that you can pretty safely criticize and not worry about much in the way of blowback. we certainly saw over the last few days republicans who already had started to distance themselves from the president. we saw the healthcare fall apart. we saw the president at 34% in the tracking numbers. interesting to see the president has given an endorsement in alabama that senate race to take jeff sessions old seat. does that do anything? the candidate he picked did not win. these republicans are unafraid of this president and what political retribution he can dish out but you re seeing some concern about the leadership they re getting from the white house. the great test is they don t build statues to senators who privately grumble or worry about the white house, they don t even give them to people who tweet negative things about the president. will they stand up and vote against him, back away from him, or will they continue to perhaps express displeasure but still go along with whatever the president s agenda might be? david, a, it will be interesting if there is talk that the president somehow unfit to be president, be interesting to see where that comes from, people with an r after their names. b, you saw in the media in the last 24 hours, the articles on mr. bannon calling him kind of in exile in the west wing. bannon in limbo as trump faces growing calls for the strategist s ouster. where is that going to come from? where is the push going to come from? it says here in general mr. bannon has cautioned the president not to criticize far right activists too severely as a small and energetic part of his base, but what once endeared him to the president has now become a major liability. david? this is a leadership test for donald trump. we know that this is a litmus test. is it going to be a steve bannon white house or is it going the be a general kelly white house? jonathan s reporting tonight is spot-on in terms of the influences on this president. the new york times is out as well with a similar report. at the end of the day, it is a litmus test. listen, general kelly and general mcmaster, if you listen to mcmaster when he talked to your colleague chuck todd on sunday, those are the reasoned, balanced voices of this administration. there is no room in a reasoned, balanced white house for a steve bannon. it will be a leadership decision for the president and one that he fails if bannon still has a place to call home in the white house. gentlemen, our great thanks to you both. congressman david jolly, jonathan lamire. another break for us on a busy monday. and up next how and where the mueller investigation is moving right now when the 11th hour continues. whuuuuuat?rtgage offer from the bank today. you never just get one offer. go to lendingtree.com and shop multiple loan offers for free! free? yeah. could save thousands. you should probably buy me dinner. no. go to lendingtree.com for a new home loan or refinance. receive up to five free offers and choose the loan that s right for you. our average customer could lower their monthly bills by over three hundred dollars. go to lendingtree.com right now. welcome back to our broadcast. new tonight from the washington post, we re learning that a trump campaign aide sent several e-mails to staffers offering to set up meetings between the campaign and russian officials. the piece reads in part, quote, three days after donald trump named his campaign foreign policy team in march of 16 the youngest of the new advisers sent an e-mail to seven campaign officials with the subject line meeting with russian leadership including putin. putten, putin, rather. that will get your attention. it sent ripples of concern among headquarters in trump tower. among to express concern through the effort was then-campaign chairman paul manafort. this comes over the weekend from the new york times that robert mueller and his team are interested in meeting with former and current staffers including reince priebus. we re joined by our friend ken vogel, political reporter for the new york times. very good to see you, thanks for coming on. obviously, it s not a surprise that mr. mueller would want to meet with these people, but, a, what details can you add, and, b, why are some trump staffers more worried than others? there s a lot of concern about the loyalties of some of the folks who are now sort of being brought into mueller s investigation including reince priebus, a former chief of staff, who you mentioned obviously parted ways with trump on less than agreeable terms, was kind of picked on throughout his tenure there and there are some concerns about both what he knows and whether he be willing to sort of put the most positive spin on some of this stuff for trump. he was on the you know, the mueller folks are focusing on this meeting that we revealed in june of last year at trump tower between this russian lawyer, russian american lobbyist, paul manafort, jared kushner and donald trump jr. that was set up with the offer that these russians would be able to provide dirt on hillary clinton. reince priebus was on paul manafort s schedule for a meeting that same day. we don t know if they ultimately met, but you can rest assured know that mueller will look into whether that meeting between reince priebus and manafort occurred and ask both manafort and priebus for any details on that. if we were to read the tea leaves and lord knows journalists would never engage in something like that. would manafort, do we look at him and think he s the crux of all or a substantial part of the mueller case even though here his name appears in an exculpatory manner, manafort was saying no, that wouldn t be right, wouldn t be prudent to meet with the russians? yeah, i think so. for a couple reasons, brian. first of all, obviously manafort was at the top of the campaign despite efforts that suggest that manafort played a limited role for a limited time in the words of former secretary sean spicer, manafort was there at a pivotal moment. he does have ties to both serious russian players and people who are very closely allied to the putin regime including viktor yanukovych, the former president of the ukraine. and there are things that have come into the sites that don t directly relate to any coordination between the campaign and russia or between other trump associates and other russian associates, and that has to do with his adherence to money laundering roles, banking roles, there are a number of ways that manafort could potentially have some liability here that aren t necessarily directly related to what had been the core animating issue of this investigation, that being any ties between trump and russia and any potential collusion between the trump campaign and russia. ken vogel, one of the best on this story. thank you for coming on. that s a terrific explanation of the state of play as we know it, as they say. the past attacks that the president has been quick to label terrorism. was there any more evidence than exists tonight in charlottesville? we re back with that right after this. we have a lot in the news tonight that called for one guest in particular who has made it here to our studio. malcolm nance, 35-year veteran of counterterrorism and intelligence and all things u.s. military and also an analyst for msnbc. so forgive this quick tour of the world. i have to start overseas with north korea. they not only issued a photo through state media of their leader, kim jong-un, looking at a map, which when we looked at it in high-definition does show loosely, a missile flight path from north korea down to the southern pacific which could conceivably be guam. u.s. intelligence is watching very closely a mobile launcher they have, they could be preparing a test shot. they re certainly making those same noises how do you view this crisis compared to last thursday, friday night? american political considerations have stepped in to make this crisis appear as if it is lessened but it hasn t. these are two leaders who are master trolls here. north korea has been playing this game for 63 years and been preparing for war for 63 years. they know no one is really going to resort to nuclear weapons. however if they feel the united states is going to carry out a conventional weapons attack like they saw in syria the second korean war will have to start. what he s doing is he s ratcheting up the tension because north korea are the masters of playing the provocation game and donald trump may be taking the bait. do you think there is clarity on our threshold? is something near guam our threshold? what is our threshold? the secretary of defense said an attack on guam would be reason for a retaliation. that is correct. but if north korea decides to do an intermediate range ballistic missile test and it misses guam by 300 miles or lands in the sea of japan or the yellow sea, that s not an attack on guam but we are going to see it fly in the direction of guam and half of the united states defense forces are going to go online. will cooler heads prevail and realize that this is not an attack on guam? if it is an attack on guam we know that kim jong-un has lost his mind and is preparing for a second korean war but we are seeing none of the intelligence indicators on the ground that north korea is preparing for a war. my final question, does the awfulness in charlottesville does it match the definition of domestic terrorism. i like to say american terrorism because domestic terrorism gets lost in the wash. people like to use that term to downgrade the potency of the word terrorism. american terrorism tells you the nation of origin of that particular thing, same thing as isis. using a vehicle as a weapon system attack in a provocative manner with the intent to instill convenience and threaten violence on others for a political purpose, that is the technical definition of terrorism the entire united states government uses. when he drove that car into that crowd knowing he would kill and injury for the creator cause of his neonazi white supremacist movement he carried out terrorism as it s done in nice and in israel by hamas. it is an act of terrorism. clarity from our friend malcolm nance. a final break from us. when we come back, a word about the loss this weekend in charlottesville. last thing before we go on a monday night is to look at the lives lost this weekend. a tragedy for charlottesville and for good people everywhere because of the hatred at the heart of it. heather heyer was 32 years old and was killed when the car plunged into the crowd. she was protesting against injustice. she was easily moved to tears. friends say such things were her absolute passion. she studied hard to become a paralegal at a charlottesville law firm where she took up those very causes. commonwealth of virginia is mourning two state police officers who were in a chopper because of the violence providing reports for officers on the ground. lieutenant jay cullen was 48. berke bates was 40. both were married and both fathers of two children. the cause of the crash is unknown. that is our broadcast for tonight. thank you for being here with us as we start a new week. good night from nbc news headquarters here in new york. tonight on all in we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence two days late, the president changes his tune on charlottesville. hatred, bigotry, and violence on many sides. on many sides. tonight trump s defense for delaying his condemnation of white supremacists. they have been condemned. they have been condemned. plus, reading between the lines. cherish our history. other hate groups. many sides. on many sides. and the reaction from republicans. these groups seem to believe they have a friend in donald trump in the white house. then, the russia ve
and sitting down to take a stand. nfl kicks off more player protests during the national anthem. proballer michael bennet will explain what he is going to do and why. good afternoon, everyone. welcome to the lead, i am jake tapper. today, former presidents george h.w. bush and george w. bush issued a statement condemning racial bigotry and anti-semitism and hatred. they all felt the need to tweet condemnations of the racist hateful ideologies of the klan and neo-nazis and white supremacists and alt-right on display in charlottesville within hours of president trump s suggesting a moral equivalence between nazis and those protests nazis. i think there s blame on both sides. you look at both sides, i think there s blame on both sides. you have some very bad people in that group. you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. you had many people in that group other than neo-nazis and white nationalists, okay, and the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. the president of the united states of america there saying the press has treated unfairly those people who marched alongside neo-nazis and white nationalists and the klan. vice news was embedded with the marchers, let s look and see how many, quote, very fine people we can find. jews will not replace us. jews will not replace us. blood and soil. blood and soil. whose streets, our streets. whose streets, our streets. we greatly outnumbered the anti-white, anti-american filth, at some point we will have enough power we will clear them from the streets forever, that which is degeneral rat in white countries will be removed. oh my god, we saw them hit by a car. i m not sure where the very fine people the media have been unfair to were. the march was billed from the beginning as a rally for racists. here s the organizer of the march before it happened. we re trying to do a pro-white demonstration, so we re trying to make it okay so folks can stand up to white people. that s what it was, complete with torches, swastikas, racist anti-semitic chants and bar barrism. the anti-nazi side full of fine people, those are not so good. so many ceos and business leaders fled the white house in protest. president trump was force today abandon the counscils. as for politicians, do republicans. senator marco rubio tweeted mr. president, you can t allow them to only share part of the blame. john mccain. no more alley kwif len see in racists standing up for hatred and bigotry. the president of the united states should say so. what trump did is a moral disgrace. mitt romney, jeb bush, john kasich. i could go on and on. you know who did applaud the president s remarks? racists, former grand wizard. thank you, president trump for telling the truth about charlottesville and condemn the left as terrorists. and white supremacists. men and women in the united states military fought two wars to defeat the morally repugnant ideas in that rally. first u.s. civil war was fought against those states that had seceded from the union because they wanted to preserve the right to own african americans as slaves. even after the south was defeated, some of them got together and assassinated president lincoln. the second world war, world war ii, was a mays i have effort with the uk, australia, and other allies to defeat nazis, nazi germany, which was sending millions of jews, catholics, gays and others to death camps as the nazis attempted and failed to conquer the world. they, too, were defeated. we have freedoms in this country. klans men can think their ugly thought and spew their hateful words. but to act as if these defeated, intellectually destitute, pathetic ideologies and people have any moral standing as they rally to intimidate and vomit forth their treasonous filth, it is not only immoral, it is unpatriotic, unamerican. i want to bring in cnn s sara murray. the consensus seems to be his remarks didn t go well yesterday. what is the view from trump tower? he may not be getting rave reviews externally but the president has no regrets about what he had to say yesterday. in fact, he has been defiant. we are told he views this essentially as liberal media and east coast liberal elites having a panic attack, hyperventilating over his comments. this as criticism spreads to both sides of the political spectrum and to the business community. president trump increasingly isolated as the backlash to these remarks a day ago builds. i would like to think, yes, i think there s blame on both sides. you look at both sides, i think there s blame on both sides, and i have no doubt about it, and you don t have any doubt about it either. and if you reported it accurately, you would say it. trump equating neo-nazis marching through charlottesville with outbursts of anger from count counter protesters fighting their ideology. swiftly drury buicks from washington. former presidents and wall street executives. business leaders, including ceos of campbell and 3 m quitting the advisory councils. tuesday, trump said he had plenty of ceos vying to replace them. by wednesday, he scrapped the councils all together, saying rather than putting pressure on business people of the manufacturing council and strategy and policy forum, i am ending both. thank you all. meanwhile, presidents george h.w. bush and george w. bush offered pointed words in a joint statement, saying america must always reject racial bigotry, anti-semitism and hatred in all forms. even as trump shed supporters, the white house doubled down, releasing a set of talking points declaring the president was entirely correct. both sides of the violence in charlottesville acted in appropriately and bear some responsibility and insisting trump has been a voice for unity and calm. today, vice president mike pence was one of the few republicans to stand by trump, though he avoided answering a question on whether he agreed with the president s statements that there were very fine people on both sides. i spoke at length about this heartbreaking situation on sunday night in columbia, and i stand with the president and i stand by those words. reporter: as for the president, he recognized the memorial service held for heather heyer, who was mode down and killed by an alleged white supremacist in charlottesville with a tweet. memorial service today for beautiful and incredible heather heyer, a truly special young woman. she will be long remembered by all. trump had not announced plans to travel to charlottesville. when asked about it tuesday, he used the opportunity to tell a trump branded winery. i own a winery in charlottesville. while it is not the most enviable job in washington job, the white house tapped an interim communications director, president trump s long time trusted hand, hope hicks, expected to keep the title of adviser, this is a position held by many before her, including anthony scaramucci. of course. sara murray, thanks so much. as we mentioned earlier, some republicans are speaking out against the president s remarks, some are calling out president trump by name, to emphasize they don t agree. ryan nobles is on capitol hill. ryan, we had these moments before, republicans come out and denounce something the president said. any indication that this time it is different in any way? jake, the tone and language from some of the republican leaders does appear to be different than some of the controversies. lindsey graham put out a statement, he said mr. president, i encourage you to try and bring us together as a nation after this horrific event in charlottesville. your words are dividing americans and not healing them. and there s a list of republicans who specifically criticized the president, not a long list, among them, senator graham, senator john mccain, marco rubio, jeff flake, cory gardner of colorado, congressman will herd of texas. there s no question the vast majority of people that weighed in on the charlottesville incident that are republican members of congress have avoided using the president s name. ryan nobles on capitol hill. thank you so much. coming up, four confederate monuments taken down in the middle of the night in baltimore. a look at the debate raging about monuments to the confederacy next. when you re close to the people you love, does psoriasis ever get in the way of a touching moment? 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southern poverty law center says the majority of 700 confederate monuments in public spaces were erected decades after general lee s surrender. they were erected when they were erected at the same time white southerners, conservative white southerners were if you will seizing power for white southerners, and imposing jim crow segregation and white supremacy on the society more broadly. this carving on georgia stone mountain finished in 1972 used to be a well known gathering place for white supremacists. as far west as arizona, a state not yet part of the nation during the civil war, confederate memorials are up for debate as well. some say they re important to keep to remind americans of our racist past. i don t think we should try to hide our history. i think we ought to try to teach it, make people understand we have overcome a lot of mistakes. where should the line be drawn? washington, d.c. is a city named after the first but not the last slave owning president. statues of confederate leaders grace the halls of the capitol building. robert e. lee was asked about placing memorials at gettysburg in 1869. the former general replied i think wiser not to keep the sores of open war but follow those that looked oh bliter ate the marks of civil strive. how do people get sucked into that world to begin with, is it ever possible to leave? 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is that what it was like for you when you were involved in it? yeah, for my side i have been on the neo-nazi side of those kind of events and it s a huge adrenaline rush, a huge sense of power and especially for people who are suffering and have things going wrong in their lives, it is a huge boost to their sense of self esteem, albeit a completely false one that isn t going to get them anywhere good. how did you get introduced and buy into this horrific ideology? i was an adrenaline junkie as a kid, grew up in an alcoholic household. my childhood was overall pretty eye dill i can, because of emotional violence in the house from alcoholism, started to lash out at other kids at an early age, got stimulation from causing trouble. as i grew older like many addictive habits, i needed more chaos to get me the same kind of thrill. so things escalated from being a bully on the school bus to getting in fights in the schoolyard to breaking and entering. as a teenager started drinking myself, and that is when i heard white power skin head music which was coarsing with the same rhetoric on display in charlottesville, and for the same reason as these misguided young men get swept up in it, i did as well. what did you tell people like this when you encounter them to try to explain how wrong they are? what works? the point i make is that i have lived both lives, i ve lived their life. i spent seven years of my life terrified of the world around me, hating every other person that wasn t a violent white racist and i live the life i do today where i literally travel around the world working with the most beautifully diverse group of people you could possibly imagine, and everywhere i go i see family, i m not afraid. i m grateful, i m joyful, and it is just a much better way to live your life than the ideology that they re saddling themselves with. you said you were a recruiter of angry white people. how might other such white supremacists currently be reacting and maybe even using president trump s language about them right now? the recruitment process into a white supremacist hate group or any violent extremist hate group, it is important to understand it is the same process the islamic state uses, to cultivate fear. amongst white people, they re going to first of all take trump s statement as big encouragement, now all of a sudden it is not just them that agitated the problem, it s their counter parts on the left, which while it isn t entirely untrue, charlottesville was agitated by a far right unite the right rally. they re the ones that started that violence, that s what they came for, they were dressed in motorcycle outfits thinking they re mad max. that whole notion of them being warriors for their people and using very peaceful inspiring efforts like black lives matter as a seed of fear is the way that people get recruited into it. what would you tell president trump about these groups if you got an audience with him? i would love to have an audience with president trump, honestly, and i would let him know that i agree with him by saying that there are good people on both sides, but i don t think they re realizing the good people they can be and that they need leadership to get to that place. so in order to do that, to me leadership is about responsibility, it s not about blame and i would love to see president trump take some responsibility for this kind of violence that s happening, i would like to see him come out stronger to condemn the ideology and fear behind it, and that would go a long way to help address this very pointed problem in our society. we thank you for your leadership on this issue. and thank you for your time as well. thank you, jake. new reaction from inside the white house to the president s comments yesterday, that s next. stay with us. here s to the safety first. i think i might burst. totally immersed weekenders. whatever kind of weekender you are, there s a hilton for you. book your weekend break direct with hilton.com and join the summer weekenders. i needed something more to help control my type 2 diabetes. my a1c wasn t were it needed to be. so i liked when my doctor told me that i may reach my blood sugar and a1c goals by activating what s within me with once-weekly trulicity. trulicity is not insulin. it helps activate my body to do what it s suppose to do, release its own insulin. i take it once a week, and it works 24/7. it comes in an easy-to-use pen and i may even lose a little weight. trulicity is a once-weekly injectable prescription medicine to improve blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes when used with diet and exercise. trulicity is not insulin. it should not be the first medicine to treat diabetes, or for people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. do not take trulicity if you or a family member has had medullary thyroid cancer, if you ve had multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if you are allergic to trulicity. stop trulicity and call your doctor right away if you have a lump or swelling in your neck, severe pain in your stomach, or symptoms such as itching, rash, or trouble breathing. serious side effects may include pancreatitis, which can be fatal. taking trulicity with a sulfonylurea or insulin, increases your risk for low blood sugar. common side effects include nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, decreased appetite and indigestion. some side effects can lead to dehydration, which may make existing kidney problems worse. once-weekly trulicity may help me reach my blood sugar goals. with trulicity, i click to activate what s within me. if you want help improving your a1c and blood sugar, activate your within. ask your doctor about once-weekly trulicity. 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office depot/officx. . tore in just one hour. taking care of business we have a lot to discuss with my panel. sources tell cnn the president has no regrets and last night the white house put out talking points saying the president was entirely correct, blame was to go around on both sides, the president has been a voice for unity and calm. do you agree? i haven t agreed with his strategy since saturday. i thought trying to cram a charlottesville statement inside another thing saturday was wrong. monday statement was good, tuesday conference erased everything. i think the president needs to repair on what it means to be a republican president and what it means to be in the party of lincoln and what it means to wear that mantle. it is who we are as republicans. i heard from a lot of republicans in the last 24 hours, especially a lot of younger ones, younger elected officials that they re very concerned about what they re going to say to their constituents and their people when they re out in their jurisdiction. i think the republican party mostly still supports the trump republican agenda on which they ran and were elected but there s a difference being with someone in policy and being with someone in spirit, and i think to be the president you have to do both, and that s where i think they re coming up short right now. van jones, let me go to you. two white house sources are telling cnn that they don t believe president trump s comments will result in any long term damage. one source saying there was, quote, nothing disqualifying. how do you see it particularly with the president s base and of course the others that supported him that ultimately sent him to the white house? well, his basis probably going to forgive this and overlook it, but he can t win re-election with his base only. there are a bunch of independents and some democrats that swung over, and i think those people are getting increasingly uncomfortable with the president. for one thing, it s just the erratic nature of his response to the crisis overall, underplaying it, reading a speech as if he were a hostage someplace, then blowing up. all this stuff begins to undermine a sense of credibility and confidence in his ability to govern, period, let alone to govern for all the people. and i think that it s very interesting. sometimes things begin to erode and they erode and erode and then break. is this going to break him with the independents, no, but i don t think that he understands that this is a country where a certain level of respect for each other is required and expected. false equivalent between nazis and people who are fighting nazis is something people are not going to follow him down the road on. all right. it was reported gary cohn, national economic council chair who is jewish was disgusted and upset by president trump s comments according to glenn thrush of new york times, reporting from three people with knowledge. interesting that people in the white house are sharing their views on this and it is getting out to reporters and yet beyond that, there s nothing that happens. i really didn t expect any resignations today, but it is an odd thing to have it leaked, that you re disgusted but still going to stick around, maybe he ll make you fed chair. honestly, i think it s worse. like first of all what the president did was basically excuse rallies in which people said things like jews, anti-semitic statements, purely anti-semitic things, and i do not understand why gary cohn is still working in the white house. first, to say i am offended about what i did, but i care so much about tax cuts for billionaires and millionaires, i am going to let it slide. how do you look people, not your jewish family, but people of common decency, how do you look them in the face when you say you don t like it and you show up. he would be fine. he can do right by his conscience and the american people and resign today, like the ceos dispanbanded the counc. there are people in the administration that feel they are there because they understanding the problems of this president and this presidency, but they re there to do the right thing, to be patriots, to serve, to try to keep the ship of state going. general mcmaster comes to mind, secretary mattis. new chief of staff, john kelly, and perhaps gary cohn feels the same way. if he leaves, who will be chair. playing devil s advocate, see you rolling your eyes, need to be there to do the patriotic thing for the country. when you take senior level jobs in the white house, you don t take an oath to serve an individual president, you take an oath to serve the country and the constitution. so i think people take these jobs out of the sense of public service and they want to contribute what they can contribute to our national economy in gary cohn s case. i don t support mass resignations. we see in other countries, the government resigned, we will have an election in six weeks. it doesn t work that way. i have seen people, is this the end of the presidency, no. we elect a president and unless we have an egregious case, we don t impeach them, they don t resign usually. their advisers don t resign in mass, we go through cycles and then have another election. that s what they will face, not in 2018 but in 2020. i m not someone who thinks the government should be turned over because it s been royaled. that s just not the way we do it. and michael cohen, the president s personal lawyer tweeted this morning, quote, as son of a holocaust survivor, i have no tolerance for #racism. just because i support donald trump doesn t make me racist. and it has photographs of him with a number of african-americans. did you see this tweet, what do you make of it? i saw the tweet and it is one of those things where we re beating up a bunch of straw people. if you re a straw person, get out of american. all of the straw person arguments are going to be bad for your health. nobody is making a serious argument that you are a racist if you voted for donald trump. that s out there, but that s not what s got this so hot now. what s gotten this so hot now is that we have nazis marching down the street in america using isis tactics to murder americans in broad daylight and the president of the united states can t speak with passion about that. he can speak with passion about statues. he speaks with more passion about a statue than a human life. that is a big problem. so i have to jump out and say i am not a racist, fine, but you re not exercising good judgment if you aren t being tough on this president with his lack of judgment. so we re not talking about people s moral character at this point, we re talking about their judgment. right now, people are not showing appropriate judgment near this president. can i just say about the staff and to van s point, at the end of the day, the president of the united states is supposed to bring the country together, not sew division, heal division. he is not supposed to justify racism, he is supposed to fight racism. he is supposed to heal the wounds of the country. that s what we expect from presidents and people that work from him are sanctioning it. they don t stop. thanks, everyone. he sang out the national anthem after the deadly violence. how does he think about the president saying both sides are to blame next. and you have the determination to keep going. humira has a proven track record of being prescribed for nearly 10 years. humira works inside the body to target and help block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to symptoms. in clinical trials, most adults taking humira were clear or almost clear and many saw 75% and even 90% clearance in just four months. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal, infections and cancers, including lymphoma have happened as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you ve been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you ve had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms, or sores. don t start humira if you have an infection. join over 250,000 people who have chosen humira. ask about the #1 prescribed biologic by dermatologists. humira & go. announcer: no one loves a road trip like your furry sidekick! so when your side glass gets damaged. 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i think there s a lot of players in the nfl and around major league baseball and athletes in general who are talking about these issues because we live these issues. at this point in america i can t hide behind the shield, i can t hide behind logo of the team i play for, can t hide behind the brands that i play for. i m a black man in america and living this, living what s going on right now, and i think a lot of players agree with that, they all talk about it, and it is very hard to talk about it on the outside because you know you re going to be judged for what you say. lot of people are fearful of backlash that will happen to them, but there s a point silence is becoming dishonest. at this point, you can t be silenced any more, have to be able to speak up about the issues, find a way to create change and get inqualities in america. you have young children, what do you say about incidents like charlottesville or i could run through names of a number of horrific incidents of violence and white supremacy. what did you tell them? it s hard, every day i try to remind my daughter that she matters, that she s important, her skin doesn t matter. she s going to be judged on the content of her character like martin luther king said. every day when i watch tv, i m reminded that s not the america i am living in. i am living in a place where you are judged by the color of your skin, being judged by your religion, by your sex. she s living in this world, if she wants change, she will have to go out and ctry to create it. treat people the way you want to be. that s what i try to live by every day, i tell my daughter. you decided to protest what s going on in this country. tell us about what you re going to do and what specifically was the tipping point on saturday for you that led you to this decision? like i said, i won t stand until things are equal, until everybody has justice, until everybody has freedom, things america is built on. protest the national anthem begins the conversation about the truth of america. i am not protesting the flag, i m trying to honor where we re supposed to be honoring, the freedom of america, equality of america, justice for all and liberty, those are things i am trying to remember we all fought for, the forefathers. you said fighting terrorists domestic and foreign, right now there s a lot of domestic terrorism and hate going on between the race, gender, all of the stuff going on. i want to bring up those issues and conversations, get people to try to act and fix the problem, different race, different colors, different sex, different gender, whatever it is. go out, try to find out how to help instead of being the problem and sitting back, being silenced. to be silent now is being dishonest about the truth of what s going on, want to figure out how to get to the bottom of this. i believe the protests is the right thing to do for me and what i feel is right, as a young black man growing up, i want to be able to inspire the youth, especially minority kids and kids around the world, if you see something and feel like you are you want to make a change, don t be afraid, we were fighting for liberty and equality for all. that s what i live by and believe wholeheartedly. i was told on charlottesville really was the tipping point for you, you had been thinking about this, but what happened saturday was a deciding factor. what specifically? i think i just think turning on the tv, charlottesville really had the tipping point for me that friday night or saturday night after watching everything that was going on, it was a tipping point to see so much hate and hatred toward people. at the end of the day for me, it is about being a human being. when those things are going on, there s no way i can go out and try to hide behind the game, hide behind the touchdowns we score and the sacks i make. i have to go out, i couldn t do it any more. i had to be able to stand up. i thought it was the right thing to do for me. last year when colin kaepernick began his protest, i spoke to a mother who lost her son, sergeant joseph johnson in an ied attack in afghanistan in 2010. she opposed what colin kaepernick was doing. listen to what she had to say. when i read he said he couldn t stand for a flag that he didn t have pride in, right away my heart kind of stopped and i lost my breath because the flag that i see is the flag that draped my son s casket in honor and i see the flag that was handed to my husband and i with deep respect from a grateful nation. when i look at the flag, i see the best of us. what do you say to gold star families. i know your dad is in the navy. what do you say to gold star families that might take your protest that way? i think my father was in the military, a lot of my family was in the military. i have friends who is vets, people who have been to war and done it all. like i said at the beginning, i honor the military. i do stuff for kids in hawaii, lived on the military base, grew up in a military family. i would say i honor the military every time i see them, and at this point like i said i m not actually dishonoring the contributions they made. if somebody loses their life, i m trying to honor that, honoring the freedom and liberty they fought for, to be able to have that. that s the thing i m trying to honor. i am not trying to dishonor the flag. i am more about the principles, honoring the principles america was built on, liberty, freedom and justice. like i said, i cannot stand until i see equality and freedom every day. let s hope you see that for everyone soon. i hope i see that equality today, tomorrow. i am challenging everybody that watches this not to judge me because you think i m doing something wrong. judge me on what my character and my content of who i am and go out and try to change society. challenge yourself to be uncomfortable, go understand somebody else that s different from you, whether it is race, sex, religion. go out and look for that. look for what i m saying, not try to judge me because you think i m doing something wrong. michael bennet, thank you so much. good luck this season. heather heyer s mother had some strong words for the racists who killed her daughter. her powerful message when we come back. stay with us. rface. award winning design. award winning engine. the volvo xc90. the most awarded luxury suv of the century. this august visit your local volvo dealer to receive sommar savings of up to $4,500. this august visit your local volvo dealer i mwell, what are youe to take care odoing tomorrow -10am? 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[ applause ] heather s mother encouraged everyone watching her daughter s funeral today to channel their anger into righteous action. her charge received a standing ovation almost two minutes long. guests flooded charlottesville s paramount theater inside and outside wearing purple, a color that heather heyer loved. this ordeal painful for everyone involved. her father spoke as well. no father should have to do this but i love my daughter and as i look on you guys, you love her too. speaker after speaker described heather heyer as a bold soul, known to stand up for what she felt was right, and that s what she was doing when she went to saturday s rally. two virginia state troopers were killed saturday in a helicopter crash while overseeing the charlottesville protests and ensuing vie license. berkebates and jay cullen. i turn you over to wolf blitzer next door in the situation room. thank you so much for watching. happening now. breaking news. without regret. sources say president trump has no regrets for his comments, equating racist hate groups with the demonstrators who opposed them. it led to top lawmakers, military chiefs and world leaders to speak out against racism and extremism. running for the exit, top business executives quit his advisory council in protest of his remarks. the president expands those panels before any ceos can make a dash for the exit. what will the i