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park. and generally from laural and around college park and d.c., this one also moving toward pg county. and two storms around the southern area and the rest of the area to the north and west of the city, just lighter shower activity across portions. not going to see a whole lot at this point across the baltimore area, but have to wait longer because of the potential for more activity to develop across this stall or slow-moving front. it will slow us down considerably, but we have watches in effect until 9:00 tonight. the entire region under thunderstorm watch and the d.c. area in northern virginia pushing into northern county and south eastern howard and that s until 6:00 this evening with that system moving across that region. heavy downpours in those particular areas. bernadette? it is pretty incredible now with the thunderstorms coming through, we have cooled down to 90 degrees in baltimore. 75 in hagerstown. what a drop that is, but out ahead of the line it s incrediblely hot and muggy. the dew point makes it feel like 94 in baltimore, 106 in pacific. this is where we topped out today. so far, we ve seen 102 degrees on our records here, but we ll have to wait for the official report from the national weather service to see if we broke that. the record was set back in 1887 and heat index at 107 degrees and that s factoring in to some of the thunderstorms coming through. we ll have the full report up shortly. thank you, bernadette. because of the stormles, there are extensive delays. b.w.i. marshal airport, if you have a flight, you re urged to check on it. complete first warning weather coverage continues in north baltimore with how people are coping with this intense heat. derek? reporter: mary, what a difference an hour makes. the breeze blowing through here right now, it just feels fantastic after what was a scorcher of a day. hydration is key for those working outdoors. just about everyone carries a drink and just about everyone feels the effects. you could just feel the beads of the sweat coming. it feels like i m about to come bust. reporter: those physical effects land some in the hospital. already claimed 23 lives in maryland and emergency room visits rise right along with the temperatures. the people are on many medications and illnesses and many who are elderly, just one additional stressor. reporter: this kind of intense heat brings people to the hospital and means big bucks for certain kinds of businesses. what temperature do you think it is in here? about 23 degrees. amen. reporter: allthe ice going to people. it s good for business. reporter: back out in the sun, reality is a lot harsher. it feels like you re walking through steam. like a crab. you re like a baltimore crab being steamed. now you know what the crabs feel like when they re in the pot. reporter: so the storm is cooling things off, it s better but the heat is tough. the last week alone, the hot weather and severe temperatures claimed five more lives. we re live, derek valcourt, wjz eyewitness news. thank you, derek. stay with wjz for first warning weather coverage. there are still plenty of headaches. mike hellgren has new information on the repairs. reporter: as crews work in the triple digit heat, they re ready to go underthe street to repair the broken street. patience is wearing thin. with no water, some businesses remain shut down. we lose about $4,000 to $5,000. reporter: it will be three streets before they re opened at lombard wjz has learned the main has been identified at high risk before the break, but no immediate plans for repair. it s not the first time we had to deal with it. at the rate we re going, it won t be the last. reporter: five miles of pipe a year is replaced a year, but they re trying to increase it to 40. there are high-tech methods to search for the leaking mains. the director of public works hopes using that technology will keep the agency ahead of disaster. we probably won t be able to use all the pipes, but there s some things you can do to give us the advantage. reporter: and avoid the mess that shut down several of baltimore s busiest blocks. that was mike hellgren reporting. the crews will replace the pipes, many are more than a century old. they will allow to resume collecting dna samples from people arrested for serious crimes. denise has more. denise? john roberts temporarily banned the court ruling, that barred criminal suspects without a warrant and the state s issued request with alonzo king jr. after the assault charges in 2009. now the sample match dna collected in the 2003 attack. robert said his order will take a month. under fire. baltimore launched allegations of mismanagement. wjz is live. adam may reports on the growing tension on campus. adam? reporter: the budget problems will cost some people their jobs unless you happen to be a high ranking member of the administration. workers at the coppin state university are upset. reporter: they blamed a 5 1/2 million dollar short fall. we were told he was unavailable at and a conference. instead, they released a statement. they said they must do what businesses and families and businesses and government places are doing. the recommended outs, while difficult, are necessary to move forward. he takes out student advisors and leads them off. reporter: ten positions making $1.6 million. priorities. are they going to have the people on the ground in order to give the students the services and the quality education they need or are they going to give it to a bunch of bureaucrats who sit around with the president? reporter: cunningham said it s not fair. it s mismanagement. it should be the people who control the money and not us. reporter: it is not the first problem for president avery. just a few months ago, a group of teachers gave him a vote of no confidence. adam may, wjz eyewitness news. adam, thank you. compensate defends the position saying they re similar to other universities. mark plans to have a drafted bill to expand gambling as early as this friday. they pledge emerging today with meetings with baltimore and stephanie rollins blake. the vote could lead to a special session on legislation allowing the casino and table games at the sites. in less than a week, all the world s eyes will be on london for the olympic games as the best of the best converge to compete. a baltimore native is preparing for his final lap. michael phelps said these will be his last games but first will face off against his rival. michael phelps is hoping to add to his london olympics. he already had 16, 8 from last year and 8 from beijing. i m just going to go out and represent my country and step up wearing the stars and stripes, swimming as fast as i can. reporter: ryan. they re fierce rivals but also friends. we have a great rivalry and friendship. last night, he was in my room and we were playing cards. reporter: earn medals in three of the seven events, he would break a world record with the most decorated olympian in history. to think it started in meadowbrook in mount washington. he s probably the hardest racer i ve came across. reporter: latvi is hungry for more as well. it s a split family. they were in tennessee. it s cool to hear the guys cheer us on. reporter: the crowds will be larger and louder when they face off in london. and like phelps, he s expected to compete in seven events. phelps plans to retire after the games and kai, just one little fact there. the most decorated of all time is a russian gymnast who had 18 total medals. i was thinking of nadia. no, it was back in like, 1950s and 60s. we ll see. all right. still coming up, dozens of firefighters are hurt fighting an apartment fire. what made it seem so difficult and dangerous. reporter: defending the dream. i m pat warren, coming up on wjz eyewitness news, those in favor of the dream act urge voters to vote yes. reporter: underarmor launches an international competition and with ten, a baltimore teacher. i m jessica kartalija. i ll explain next. and dark clouds in parts of maryland right now. bob is tracking live doppler radar and updating our first weather forecast up next. ,,,, still thinking of replacing the truck? i just don t know where to start. glad you made it. start by choosing from over 30,000 used cars and trucks. we are down to 84 degrees and it is raining in central maryland right now. the complete first warning weather forecast is coming up. now underway, upholding a new state law to offer in-state tuition to undocumented students. political bob warren has more on their plan. we are the dreamer fighting for justice and higher education. reporter: it was put on hold when mdpetitions.com questioned the voters and survived a court challenge. it s going to be a big election. reporter: maryland is the eleventh state to allow to pay the lower in-state tuition for higher education providing they are maryland high school graduates and parents paid taxes for five years. yes, i ll be able to take advantageover it. reporter: they will be able to launch the coalition to get voter approval. right now, my status is not going to let me get into college. reporter: opponents argue that only legal residents should qualify. people understand what it says. common sense will tell them to use our tax funds. reporter: supporters consider that view shortsighted. get a chance for an education. reporter: the dreamers will rally in baltimore tomorrow. i m pat warren reporting. back to you on tv hill. same-sex redistricting are on the november ballot. if you re waiting for someone to get home from work, let s check with kristy breslin. hi, kristy. a lot of chaos because of the water main break. east baltimore and east lombard and the two right lanes are blocked so your best bet is to take feyyet. take 395 or even on the jones expressway. as far as 95 goes, to the tunnel and the west side inner loop. 95 minutes to security boulevard and on the topside of the inner loop as you can see by the graphic there, it is just jammed. from stephenson road to the parring parkway. traveling the harrisburg expressway, it s slow there from schwan and also harper at evergreen avenue. let s take a live look. things are crawling along there northbound on the harrisburg expressway at shawan road. subway, eat fresh. back to you. kristy, thank you. we have breaking news to report to you. let s go to captain jeff with more. reporter: we re exactly a block to the west of belvidere. single alarm fire. a lot of smoke out of the top row of the house. we ve not seen flames but we ve seen firefighters with the residents through the windows here. i m captain jeff long. back to you. just a month ago, a local barber was featured. how he helped thousands of people turn their lives around. reporter: by trade, michael cradle is a barber, but these schools have been more than just trimming hair. it makes me feel wonderful to know i m giving confidence. reporter: he opened his first in ohdonton and realized the major need in the community. populations didn t have access to regular grooming. reporter: he started a collection box. i would send one of my barbers down there or invite a group from the shelter up to my shop and we would cut their hair. reporter: his charity soon blossomed into the robert community foundation. a non-profit that raises money to build barber and beauty shops and over the past 12 years, he s helped around 7,000 people including marsheline. you feel like a different person. you just feel good. reporter: it s reached in the august edition. the fourth and latest project is in annapolis and he hopes to transform even more people. because most of his clients are down of on their luck, getting them back on their feet is the biggest reward. they re excited. reporter: monique griego, wjz eyewitness news. if you d like to find out more about cradles organization or to donate, go to wjz.com and click on news. i love it. just one man touching so many lives. really great. went down 20 degrees. in the 70s. humidity set but winds will shift and bring cooler air. take a look at radar. big storms south and east of the baltimore region approaching eastern shore and around annapolis and portions of a.a. county. north and west of us with lighter showers and maybe thunder later on tonight. we ll ,,,,,,,,,,,, [ male announcer ] now at your neighborhood subway: the new santa fe steak melts. get extra grande flavor with the santa fe steak & bacon melt or add egg for a santa fe steak, bacon & egg melt, perfect for breakfast or any time of day. subway. eat fresh. hundreds more in your wallet year after year. feed me! saving you money now, that s progressive. call or click today. storms in the mainly south and east. over the last few hours, it s dissipating except for the line south of the baltimore region. if you go up south and east of it, scattered showers and thunder in some of the areas, but none is there. just much needed rain. flash flood warning. 4 to 2 inches of rain in the last two hours and that s why we have the flooding, small streams. moving in western a.a. county and that s where it continues south and east to the baltimore region because laural indianapolis. there s more rain up to the north and west. 84 and continues to drop and 74. the 70s. 68 in okay land. 90 in ocean city. still in the upper 80s to 90s. 102 today. record was set way back in 1887. yesterday was a record minimum at b.w.i. marshal. west here at 10. strong winds maybe in excess of 40 or 50 miles per hour but very isolated. we have more shower and thunderstorm activities in some areas between now and friday. could easily see one or two inches of rain. that is going to help our draught situation tremendously and it doesn t look like much more in the way of severe weather, at least locally. a few spots, yes, but generally, as this front moves out, we see a wave of low pressure to give us some rain and maybe thunder, but looks like the the severe threat would generally be tonight. five to ten knots and warm 83 degrees. showers and storms, yes. 74 tomorrow. not nearly as hot as today but more showers and thunderstorms. could get up to low 90s with the sun. north is probably staying in the 80s. upper 90s with the front right through the region. bob, thank you. still at 5:00, high flying fugitive. what police found in the wreckage. family tragedy. police say a southern maryland man shot his parents and then turned the gun on himself. update on a possible motive. reporter: hot weather, hot water. what the heat waves are doing to the bay. that story as ey,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, it s 5:30. 84 degrees and raining. good evening, thank you for stays with wjz eyewitness news. here are some of the stories people are talking about tonight. police in southern maryland are looking at what caused a man to shoot his mom and stepfather. the neighbors called police after hearing the man fighting with his stepfather. look to the right of your screen, the charles county cops not knowing if the son is alive and armed used the armor rug to force his way into the home where the shooting happened. once inside, they find the body of 33-year-old shea proctor. police believed he killed himself after wounding his mother and stepfather with a handgun. his myspace shows the family together in happier times. they found a man and a woman. reporter: there was an argument and then shot, mom and dad get out, collapsing in the street leaving signs of their agony. at some point, the emergency services team actually went inside the house and found a 33- year-old male in the upstairs bedroom that was deceased and had what appeared to be a self- inflicted gunshot wound. reporter: the step dad is alive and does landscaping on the side. great, wonderful family. never trouble around here. reporter: proctor called himself mellow, but don t think he was employed. when you don t see them and coming out of the house, something s wrong. reporter: mike schuh, wjz eyewitness news. it was not known what the argument was about that led to the shooting. a fire broke out in the bronx. what was battling the blaze, vic? it took nearly 3 hours to contain the blaze. it broke out after midnight. it started at the back of the building and spread to two other units and also caught on fire leading to a partial roof collapse. the entire building contained. the building is designated as historic and a block from yankee stadium. heat waves like the one we re sweltering in have an impact on land and also felt on the water. wjz drought watch coverage begins with alex demetrick to report on the intense heat and lower than normal rainfall are doing to the chesapeake. reporter: when the sun comes up, it adds to heat to heat already trapped and another big number to wjz first warning weather. 80 degrees in the middle of the day. it s quite warm, even for summer. reporter: studies the bay for the university of maryland center for environmental science. the bad news is that the conditions in the shallow waters are stressful for bay grasses. reporter: there s been a decline in the crabs because they go deeper for relief. what the bay is not seeing are the huge algae blooms that form with warm weather this past screen to create dead zones. you get this algae glooming and it depletes the oxygen in the water. it s carried into the bay after the tropical storms. but now the nutrients were eaten up thanks to dry weather. the advantage this year is that we ve had little runoff or rainfall so that there s not as much fresh water coming into the bay which would bring nutrients to cause this dead zone phenomenon. reporter: alex demetrick, wjz eyewitness news. the full extent of the good news/bad news effects on the bay won t be known until late fall. wjz drought coverage continues with bernadette woods who is updating the live doppler radar. bern? ? a drought is a long-term issue and the drought watch continues, you can see the deficit is still about 8 1/2 inches for the year. normally, we have 22 1/2 inches. as of yesterday, we were just over 14 inches but as we said, that s going to change because of what you see on first warning doppler radar. you can see it s breaking up significantly. it s in effect all throughout the d.c. area and behind that, you see thunderstorms and areas of rain that s going to contribute to help our drought watch numbers. that s the good news of what s going on today. mary? thank you, the search for two missing cousins in iowa reached the sixth day. tracking dogs did pick up the cent of 8-year-old elizabeth cole religious collins and lyric cook. she believes the evidence points to an abduction. i feel like maybe they were taken. i ll be more comfortable once they drain the lake and we find nothing there. i m glad they re draining it. investigators are also searching a landfill for clues. one local company made bumper stickers with the girl s pictures hoping someone whose seen them will come forward. a decision on whether the statue of the late joe paterno statue will stay made in the next week with the university. it says, take the statue down or we will. it became a major point of controversy after an investigation concluded paterno helped conceal allegations in the jerry sandusky sex abuse case. the crisis in syria continues to escalation. randall pinkston reports for wjz. the u.s. vote on syria has been put off. reporter: syrian college students chanted freedom. a bomb exploded at a high level meeting killing three top officials, including the defense minister and deputy defense minister who was assad s brother-in-law. rebels claim they set off the blast with a remote control. a new defense minister was immediately appointed and he called the attack work of terrorists. it s clear assad s regime is losing control. assad is a spent force in terms of history. he will not be a part of syria s future. reporter: at the pentagon, he calls for the rebels. it s more essential than ever that the united states and the international community continue to work together through the united nations. reporter: the u.n. security council was set to vote on syria, but that was postponed until thursday while diplomats try to agree on the wording. they reportedly asked for the delay hoping the west to solve their use of force to end the fighting that claimed more than 15,000 lives. randall pinkston, cbs news, the united nations. after the blast, the treasury posed economic sanctions on other top syrian officials. deadly explosion. 16 are dead after a bus bombing in bulgaria. you can see the windows of the double decker bomb is blown out. the bus was carrying israeli tourists, many of them young. israeli prime minister is calling an irani terror attack and getting a tough response. after a million reports of stuck gas pedals, investigating ford vehicles. the national highway traffic safety administration said there s been at least one death suspected from the defect and nearly 2 dozen accidents. the two models involved are the 2001 escape and the mazda s tribute with v6 engines. the baltimore sun tomorrow, some people are concerned about one of the musical headlines for this year s art scape. the wife of john macky among widows to finally receive survivor s benefits from the nfl and a look at british inspired fashions. for all the story, read tomorrow s baltimore sun and look at the updated forecast at the first warning weather team. what it means to be a female athlete. jessica kartalija explains one winner from baltimore out of 10,000 submissions. we re taking it back. reporter: an international competition encouraging women to set fitness goals and achieve them. 30-year-old kaitlyn of baltimore city math teacher was one of 10,000 submissions, her plan inspired fourth and fifth grade girls at edge wood elementary to run a mile. we would work out every day, monday through friday for about 45 minutes. in the end, they were able to accomplish their goal of running a mile and it was awesome. reporter: for ten weeks, kaitlyn tracked her progress online, vying for the chance to be one of the new faces of underarmor as one of their inspirational women and it works. you brought a whole new light to what underarmor is about and we re just really excited to have you have. reporter: under armour said it stood out the entire time. it was her selflessness that really made her shine. under armour sponsorship deal including training and gear. they get to work better in class and it was good for the overall kids. this is so good. reporter: under armour said the entire campaign was such a success, they plan to launch a similar one this fall. in baltimore city, i m jessica kartalija, wjz eyewitness news. the three other inspirational women selected are from texas, tennessee, and missouri. oh my gosh. great story. kaitlyn is a powerhouse. you could tell her students were just motivated. math? yeah. that works too. still to come tonight on wjz eyewitness news, prison break and how a curious bobcat got into the big house. in the first warning weather center with the five-day [ male announcer ] virtual wallet can help you be that person who s good with money. see what s free to spend. move money with a slide. save with a shake. feel good about your decisions. now the first warning of severe weather. welcome back. there s the laze out there and in some cases, the haze has given way to showers and thunderstorms. we ll start out with tobacco doppler radar. we have severe thunderstorm warnings in effect. over baltimore, it s rain showers and not as much in the way of thunderstorms but there s still more to come off to the northwest. we ll show you the forecast for tomorrow. this is what we re looking at. that front will stall out and on and off chances of scattered thunderstorms. and then a break and then the chance of showers on and off throughout the day. the temperatures start to back off but that trend continues. more on that, here s bob. showers into friday and that s good news. one or two inches of rain. wonderful. 80 degrees for a high on friday. even cooler to the north of us. 84, dry out. it s a great weekend. 84, 87 to back up to a more seasonably hot 92 on monday. mary? with a low-flow shower, a ten minute shower, we use 25 gallons of water, less than a typical bath. a new shower head will save $145 each year. for more information on how to be an energy saver, go to wjz.com, click on the right- hand side of the page at our special section. china under water forcing people out of their home. high flood waters out of the country. found dozens of people clinging to trees in one neighborhood and try to avoid being swept away. they re forced to evacuate until the flood waters recede. investigators are on the scene of a packaging plant in wisconsin. one man killed after being burned by flyash. he was in crippled condition and then three people were also killed in 2008 when a gas tank caught fire and exploded. a man wanted for murder in colorado is found in utah after trying to steal the passenger jet. more on this bizarre man hunt for a murderer. reporter: work crews in st. george, utah, airport after a murder suspect tried to make a high flying getaway. a pilot for the airlines breached airport security and tried to steal a 50 passenger jet. he was wanted for the murder of his exgirlfriend whose body was found that prompted sky west to put him on administrative leave and revoke his security cards. it was just before 1:00 a.m. when a police officer patrolling the airport noticed an abandoned motorcycle with engine still warm and wire over a perimeter fence. that s how he got in and made his way on to the jet and started the engines. he knew exactly how to get in the plane, the cabin and apparently, there s multiple systems you have to be familiar with and he knew all of those. reporter: as the plane taxied away, he went into some parked cars, collapsing the plane s nose gear. when police entered the plane, he found himself. the plane voice recorder is analyzed for potential clues and review airport security measures. bigad shaban, wjz eyewitness news. they are reviewing some security at the st. george airport but perimeter security is a responsibility of the individual airport, not the tsa. mary, a busy night for the first warning weather. we ll have the updated forecast at 6:00 and. i m michelle richie. a scam out of thousands. i ll have that story coming up. check in with these stories at 6:00 and now to mary and kai. still to come on wjz eyewitness news tonight, a positive season for the o s turned upside down. mark has the latest on the team s struggles coming up. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, try, try again. another tough day with the o s. mark with the o s woes. certainly excited may and june and then a serious swoon. we talk about it every year. baseball season is 162 games. no other sport exposes weaknesses or extols consistency like we see over the course of six months of baseball. among the weaknesses exposed, the young pitching chris tillman, zack britain, a disappointing debut in minnesota last night. he was knocked out of the game after four game innings. he was charged up for giving up four runs and pedro allowed two runs to score on consecutive hits in the second inning and those ended up being the difference in a 6-4 orioles heat. it goes back to britain. the starting pitcher didn t last long enough to help his team. you re going a tough outing when you have that. better and wasn t there tonight. it s just disappointing. can t do that. it s a game you have to win. i feel like every time they give you the rounds of the team, it s like four innings and watch six guys. totally inacceptable. the o s had another error, most errors in the majors but a foul ball ended up tumbling in the seat. the o s play again tonight. plus, tiger woods takes aim at a major title. we ll hear from woods in sports at 6:00. back to you. thank you. prison break has inmates on edge because a bobcat managed to climb on the roof of the special offenders unit. the vet was able to tranquilize him and get him off the roof. he has minor cuts but we didn t really get to see him there. not much. still ahead on eyewitness news: reporter: it s a tough assignment. i m in a 20-degree freezer in a heat wave. not everyone is so lucky. a heat-related problem coming up on eyewitn,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, coming up on eyewitness news at 6:00, storms move through the weekend. dangerous heat. we set a new record today. how marylanders are trying to cope. reporter: the water main mess. i m in downtown baltimore. why these once classified as high risk were never fixed and when the next fix will happen. reporter: staff members are fired up. what s behind the budget problems here, that s coming up. check in to these stories and breaking news. wjz eyewitness news at 6:00 starts now. this is wjz-tv, wjz-hd and wjz.com, baltimore. from the city to the counties to your neighborhood, now is complete 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we are being taken inside the accused shooter s apartment, and it may be lousy as a legal job. but it demands that someone do it. the accused suspect s lawyer is here. he met with major hasan at a hospital. what was that like? we will find out. and veterans day, a day to honor all of our veterans, while at the same time, we are trying to figure out how one major slipped through the cracks there was an 7-eleven worker who spoke to hasan on the moment of the shooting slipped through the cracks. there was a 7-eleven workers. when he came in, how was he dressed? he was justin muslim it was white. i do not know what they call them he was just in muslim. it was all white? yes. had been in here before? yes, he would get coffee and hash browns. norman between 6:00 and 6:30. so he would come in that early normally between 6:00 and 6:30. was he normally in all white? he would have his uniform or civilian clothing. so this time, he had this on, but ge normally would be in uniform or civilian clothing? but he normally would be in uniform or civilian clothing? yes, and he just smiled at me, like normal, and i noticed his outfit, and i actually stopped and commented on it. i said, why are you all dressed up today? and he was very evasive. i think he said it just to blow me off, basically. he was talking like it was normal though? he was so peaceful that morning. i do not know, kind of peaceful and serene. he was standing over here, just gazing out. was the normally about business when he came in? he just seemed like a guy going to work? a guy going on base? a guy going to work, getting his coffee, and i try to make of my customers smile. but on this morning, he seemed to different? he was just a little bit off, like i said, he seemed peaceful to me, is the feeling i got off of him. greta: all right, inside major hasan s apartment. investigators have now removed bags of evidence from the apartment. they did it right after the shooting, but many things remain in the apartment. jordanian and israeli coins, a paper shredder, a box of prescriptions, which, incidently, he had prescribed it to himself. there were a few pieces of furniture left behind and nothing on the walls. our producer talked to the apartment manager. this is where hasan lived. he moved in at the end of july. we spoke to many of the neighbors, but they gave us some perspective about his life here. we spoke to the manager at the complex here who told us a lot about seeing hasan around and what happened the day the shooting happened down the road. i asked the detective, and they said that they had just confirmed a shooter dead, and he was on television, and i told them, they just confirms that they get shot and killed him. later that evening, we found that he was still alive. nobody actually knew him. he would come and go, and sometimes people would be sitting out here, and he would be like, good evening, how are you doing? and i would be, ok, how are you? and he would say, blaslessed. others never complained about him as a neighbor? no, n. no. when did you return to the complex after you all had to lead? had to leave? the bomb squad when in and make sure everybody was out. we went in and made sure everybody was out. the bomb squad went in. greta: the expectation is he will be tried by a military court. a colonel joins us live who met with him. colonel, you have got a lousy job, but the constitution demands that this man have counsel, and i think everyone in the country is certainly grateful to you for having stepped up to it, because nobody wants it, but he does have constitutional rights. having said that, you have spoken to your client. what was it like talking to him in the hospital? well, it was very, very beneficial, but it was limited. i went down there for a very limited period of time. i spent about 30 minutes with him, and it was primarily to identify myself to him. it was also to seek assurances from him that i wanted to do my utmost to defend him but also to receive from him concurrence that he wanted me to be a part of this defense team because he is the client. i also met with major martin. greta: was the intubated group was able to have a conversation with you? was seat in debated? intubated? was he able to have a conversation with you? near the end of that half- hour visit, which was limited strictly to introducing myself and talking about council, i could see that his eyes were glassy, and major martin and i agree that we needed to leave it that time and schedule another visit, and we are planning on doing that quite possibly as early as tomorrow introducing myself and talking about counsel. greta: you think of these military institutions as being safe, and you think of soldiers at risk in iraq, and afghanistan, and now, this. i cannot imagine that your particular popular because people do not understand the role of lawyers. are you getting hate mail at this point? i can tell you that today i did get some questionable emails, and the office did get some telephone calls, and we notified local authorities so that the appropriate steps to be taken, but with your question as to how someone approaches a case like this, as you know, i spent 30 years in the army with all kinds of positions, appellate government counsel, and also as a judge, and i think i was adamant in seven major intel in major in telling major hasan that i believe in the military justice system. i have found that after a while when you demonstrate to the public the importance of ensuring a fair trial, notwithstanding the serious nature of the offenses charged, most people will agree with you. all of the soldiers that we have in uniform fight abroad, a risk their lives, and they do that to protect our constitution and our lives, and that extends to everyone, including my client fight abroad, risk their lives. greta: this is just so raw, so absolutely raw what i say this man is simply accused of, but, frankly, it is difficult for me to say simply accused of. frankly, accused is not the word i would necessarily use with my friends talking about it. is it likely to be a military prosecution, or is it any chance to be in civilian courts? well, greta, you were talking earlier, and you were using the word accused. as of tonight, i have still not been in receipt of a formal complaint or what is used in military court-martials. i have not been in receipt of that. the word on the street than i am getting an hearing on national media that i am getting and hearing on national media is that it will be kept in military channels, but, again, not having seen a military charge sheet, not having received specific notice from officials that that is their intended to proceed, like you, i have some questions. their intent to proceed. there are some large issues, and that is if my client can get a fair trial if court is convened at fort hood. as you know, our commander in chief was here for the memorial service. and i am not the only person asking these questions. earlier today, when i was in the supermarket, and people learned that i was on this case, many people, including people who had prior military affiliation, approached me and asked, do you think he can get a fair trial here? i am also concerned about it. greta: and, colonel, we all want a fair trial, because in the end, we want justice, and i suspect he will get a fair trial but will not be particularly pleased with the result, but, indeed, the process must be fair, and, colonel, good luck, sir. thank you very much, greta, and just urge your listeners in the beginning about the importance of ensuring a fair and just proceeding at trial. greta: he is going to get it. i do not think he will be happy with the results, but he is going to get it. up next, more about his contacts with the radical imam overseas. congressman pete hoekstra has something on this. and we now have new information on how many troops could soon be joining the war in afghanistan. ambassador john bolton goes on the record. 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[captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute www.ncicap.org greta: before the massacre at fort hood, the suspect emailed an imam, and he got a response. congressman pete hoekstra joins us on the telephone. good evening, congressman. what do you know about the major that is now sitting in the hospital, being accused of doing the unthinkable, and this imam? it is clear there was email traffic going both ways. i have not seen the content of its, but you have to look getting in the larger context. any one of these events in and of itself may not have been enough to trigger an in-depth investigation, but when you put the email traffic with his powerpoint presentation with the comments of his colleagues and all of those types of things, you would have hoped that all of that information would have got into a single place that would have clearly set up the red flags. greta: ssent up t sent up the red flags. greta: co-workers must have been very suspicious. there was nothing right with this guy. that the evil lurking in his soul i cannot believe these were isolated, these powerpoints. they may be just the uncomfortable saying something. i think that is what we need to ask. did all the information get to one place at one time for evaluation? and then the second question is, was there an element of political correctness that led these people to say, hey, we are not going to bring this up. we are just going to get in trouble. we are going to leave it alone. greta: there is a difference between having respect for someone s background or religion and being sloppy, stupid, and having it result in something catastrophic, and as we hear more and more, it begins to look like where was everybody? how do you promote this guy to major? do you not sort of dig into his background? maybe that would have been an obvious thing. before you promoted him in may, would you not have looked at him a little bit more? that may have been possible, but, greta, we have seen the same thing over the last eight or nine months. it was a short time ago that the department of homeland security to said they are not going to use the word terrorism anymore. we are going to use the term man-made disaster. everyone is looking at political correctness, not looking at it at it as terrorism, but looking at it as a criterion we have to believe what we see. but looking at it as a crime. we have to believe what we see. we are going to have to identify it and call it what it is. otherwise, we will never find a solution to deal with it. greta: am i wrong in thinking that if you re in the military, you sort of give us some sort privileges and rights, so it would not have been out would notnorm if someone was speaking out it would not have been out of the norm, that you could sort of call them on the carpet and give them a cross exam or the once over? in the military, do you not sort of surrender i would think that you would surrender some of the privileges you would otherwise have. well, greta, you are the legal experts, but i would think that is exactly right. once you get into the military, and you recognize your responsibility to your colleagues and your country, some of those liberties, some of those freedoms, have to be held back because you have that responsibility to keep america safe, and in this case, it is apparent or at least pretty apparent that hasan crossed the lines, but he never triggered anyone to call him out on it. greta: and tonight, 13 are dead. that is right. greta: congressman, thank you. i am sure we will hear more about it in the coming weeks, and we will learn more about more emails. thank you, sir. up next, the nation is waiting, and understandably, many veterans are on edge. when will the president to decide about afghanistan? we have new information for you. ambassador bolton is next. and steve moore shows up tonight. you do not want to be caught with your waistbands tugging. get ready to hold your breath. (announcer) we understand. you need to save money. have discovered how easy it is to use legalzoom for important legal documents. so start your business, protect your family, launch your dreams. at legalzoom.com we put the law on your side. greta: president obama holds a meeting with his high-level advisers about afghanistan, and according to the associated press, the president rejected all of the options. meanwhile, it was reported that the u.s. ambassador in afghanistan has reservations about a troop surge because he has so many considerations about hamid karzai has so many reservations about hamid karzai. ambassador john bolton joins us. ambassador, nice to see you. he got that report in august, and we still have not heard from the president, and there are a service member is at risk. we have got to help them, our soldiers there are service members at risk. this is like watching a slow train wreck, watching this process, it is really is having a debilitating effect on troop morale in afghanistan, and globally, it is having a debilitating effect on america s reputation. it is not just the president s indecisiveness in afghanistan but his weakness and indecisiveness in other areas, as well, that gives the reputation that he has got a problem making hard decisions. greta: i am less worried, a big picture, of his indecisiveness. i am more worried about the men and women on the ground there. maybe they should be pulled out or need reinforcement or something, but one thing we know is that the status quo is bad. the numbers are up in terms of injuries. they are catastrophically higher. so something has to be done. we need to make some decision. well, i think we have to focus on what america s strategic interests are in afghanistan, and i think there are basically two. one is that we do not want taliban and al qaeda to taking it as a platform to launch terrorist attacks, and number two, and more important, now, if we do not want the situation in afghanistan to contribute to instability in pakistan, which could cause that government to fall into radical plans and with it a very substantial supply of nuclear weapons. we do not have an unlimited amount of time, and our strategic interests cannot depend on how well they do, and i think to the extent that the president is looking for ways to lay this all on the government in kabul, he is missing the real point about what we were there in the first place. greta: it has already spilled over. 100 plus blown up at a market. it has already poured into that nuclear country of pakistan, so we are, you know, perilously beyond that point. but that is precisely why we need a steadfast strategy in afghanistan to grind both the afghan and the pakistan taliban organizations between the pakistan military on their side of the border and the u.s. and nato forces on the afghan side of the border, because if we are not able to bring this under control, i think there is a very grave question in the fairly near future that we would see even more instability in pakistan and the possibility that the government would fall, which would be an enormous setback to u.s. and other interests around the world. greta: and not to mention to scare india to death. tell me if this is significant, or not. this is about the u.s. ambassador to afghanistan. it says in a strongly worded classified cable to washington, the ambassador talks about new trips while there is still questions of leadership. talks about new troops. the fact that the associated press has that means that there are leaks, that this is a situation where people are talking, and you have weeks when you have descension. you do not have leaks when everybody is happy or on the same page. more troubling than the disorder and the administration s decision making process is the media reporting what is going on, because i do not think it necessarily portrayed accurately how this is being fought out. the fact that cables like that are being leaked i think, there will still be disagreement when it is over, regardless of the decision reached, and this is regardless of what troop increase the president decides on, because it means he is not leading towards a kabeer decision despite working on it for almost four months towards a clear decision. greta: ambassador, thank you. up next, a big, huge, part of the health-care debate. could big people soon be shelling out big bucks? steve moore is next. can your body wash nourish this deeply? the moisturizer in other body washes sits on top of skin. only new dove has nutriummoisture. which can nourish deep down. new dove body wash with nutriummoisture. superior natural nourishment for your skin. greta: this is a fox news alert. mike tyson has been detained at los angeles international airport after getting into an altercation with a photographer. he has been detained on suspicion of battery. the incident happened at 4:30 p.m. at a terminal at lax, and the photographer accused mike tyson of hitting him, and both want to press charges. we will bring you the very latest on this breaking news as we get it. and there is a literally growing debate with health care. people s waistlines, obesity. here are two questions. one, should these people have to pay more for their insurance? and two, should think people have to pick up the tab for overweight people who get sick? joining us is steve moore, the editorial writer for the wall street journal. i do not want to get close to this with a 10-foot pole. this is not a good topic. well, you know, this has become one of the real spark points of the health-care debate. there is a huge section of the bill dealing with wellness, and we do know that people who live healthy lifestyles, who maintain their wage, to get involved in physical activity, do not smoke, do not drink who maintain their way to weight, it is an interesting, ethical point. whether they can be charged, people who take care of themselves, less than people who are overweight or however we describe these people? in doing some research on this issue, there is actually an advocacy group in washington for the advancement of fat people, looking out for their interests come and as it is right now, insurance companies are not allowed to charge different premiums based on people s weight. greta: specific language that we cannot be taken into consideration weight cannot be taken into consideration. $147 billion in medical spending dealing with conditions pertaining to obesity, and another statistic is that 9.1% of all medical spending is obesity. now, if we can find at how to get everybody fit, that would be a great start. i am very much in favor of allowing insurance companies to charge different premiums based on a person s health and living styles. and i do think that, look, if i am trim, and living right, i should not have to pay the same premiums for someone as someone who does not work out and eat all of the wrong food. if you want to hold down costs in health care, we have to do something about obesity. it is a national epidemic, and this is an interesting question. should someone like you pay the same insurance rates as oprah? i say no. greta: oprah can afford to pay anything. she can buy our health-care system. incentive programs for wellness, getting 30% off, and if you happen to be healthy when it starts, you will not get that 30%. on the people he starts off with a more rugged situation. we know about those who have these insurance plans to put financial incentives to lose weight if they are obese or to engage in collective v. it works very well. as you know, i never interviewed john macky with whole foods. i am in favor of this. i am not sure what political correctness is interfering with something that can really reduce health-care costs. greta: the better the think tastes, the more fastening it is. there is something grotesque about that the better the thing tastes, the more fattening is. there is something grotesquely unfair about that. the more fattening is. here is the point, greta. the more fattening it is. people are not a victim. they can change their behavior, and i think that is the reason why i come down on the side of saying, yes, and look. a huge amount of the cost of our health-care system is related to obesity, heart disease, stroke, cancer, diabetes, all of these things. greta: i want all of our viewers to know that steve said this, i did not. i won this argument today. greta: all right, if you see some republicans dancing in the street, we might know why. we report, you decide. plus, whoopi goldberg just dropped the i bomb on the view, idiot. oonc. wll tblarnc. orvefse em ds tigin you hungry? 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(door crashes in) (broadview alarm) (gasp and scream) go! go! go! go! go! go! (phone rings) hello? this is mark with broadview security. is everything okay? no. someone just tried to break in. i m sending help right now. thank you. 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i am not sure. i am not sure the republican party is in the best place to fully leverage the opportunity, but we will see. shgreta: taking an issue like the economy, which is the most important to families, and in october, 50% sign approved about the president was handling the economy. now, of course, we have a 10.2% unemployment rate 50% approved. the trend. it is not necessarily the numbers, but it is not going in the right direction for him. tucker: yes, the trend is not his friend. the real unemployment rate is up near 70%, people who, many who have just stopped finding jobs the real unemployment rate is up near 17%. you also have the president who is intent on spending money we do not have, and i think as the debate gets even more intense of this health-care bill, you will see even people who have voted for barack obama is to say we just cannot afford this, and now is not the time to add on regulation. it is going to get worse. greta: i do not look at the polls, well, maybe. i know. here is one, and i hope the president is not looking at this poll. 54% oppose sending more troops to afghanistan. that is an increase from october, a 3% increase, opposed. i am not talking to the generals. i do not know what the right thing is, but the one thing that is distressing is that we do not have a decision, and i hope the fact that i know general mcchrystal said in august we need more troops, 40,000 more. we still do not have a decision, and now, we have got the american people who are indicating a trend that we do not want more troops sent. is that in any way inhibiting the president in making the right decision? i hope not. tucker: not only do we not have a decision, we do not have a policy that people understand. i can promise you that not one in 1000 americans can name the policy in a sentence. by the way, bringing democracy to afghanistan, turning it into belgium, that is not good enough. there has to be a rationale obviously rooted in our own interests. this is a sleeper issue for obama. he was touting afghanistan as the right war, during the campaign. he said he would increase troop levels. greta: no one has been able to win in afghanistan. tucker: that is right. greta: this is not an easy challenge for this president or anyone else, and our soldiers are getting killed and injured. we need to move on this one. trucker: tucker: it is the graveyard. if they do understand what the mission is, they will not support it. greta: i just want some decision, because i see these numbers every day about the soldiers and the head injuries, and everything else. tucker, thank you. tucker: thank you. greta: up next, whoopi goldberg on the view, should call somebody she calls a somebody an idiot. únxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx greta: well, you have seen our top stories, but here is the best of the rest. the ladies of belleview are out to get you. the ladies of the view. whoopi goldberg is not happy about the pilots drinking. what is wrong with you, idiots? i am sorry. there are 3 million people on an airplane. how dare you? how dare you, in their drunk to fly people across the ocean? what the hell is wrong with you? [applause] we were talking about getting whoopi goldberg over her fear of flying on this show. i always check the cockpit, and i was not on this airplane. since we are in show biz, when they fly across the country, they have to fly us first-class. from now on, i am going to sit in the cockpit. greta: well, i am with whoopi goldberg on that one. and the video speaks for itself. well well, a series of rock slides in tennessee. you just saw and heard one of them caught on tape. u.s. 64 has been shut down in both directions in eastern tennessee. it is not known how long it will be closed, but we do know that the cleanup will not be fine, but there you have it, the best of the rest the cleanup will not be fun. and we have a tribute for our troops. stay here. ñ remember when@ christmas was magical? let s get back there. santa s wonderland at bass pro shops has@ what we ve all been missing: with the arcades, elves, and even a free picture with santa. greta: today is veterans day, and on the record says happy veterans day to all of our troops. [ stars and stripes plays] present arms. [ taps plays] we call this a holiday, but for many veterans, it is another day of memories that drive them to live their lives each day as they possibly can. to our troops, is another day in harm s way. for their families, it is another day to fill the absence of a loved one and a concern for their safety. for our wounded warriors, it is another day of slow and arduous recovery. at the national cemetery, it is another day when grief remains fresh, and for those serving in far-flung places today, when you see our flag, you will be home in an america that is forever here for you that as you are forever here for us. [bagpipes play] we pause today as a coalition command, just as our nations will pause at home, to remember those who have served, to honor their service and their many sacrifices. today, we also acknowledge those currently serving here in afghanistan, in iraq, and around the world. [ when the saints come marching play] play]

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we are being taken inside the accused shooter s apartment, and it may be lousy as a legal job. but it demands that someone do it. the accused suspect s lawyer is here. he met with major hasan at a hospital. what was that like? we will find out. and veterans day, a day to honor all of our veterans, while at the same time, we are trying to figure out how one major slipped through the cracks there was an 7-eleven worker who spoke to hasan on the moment of the shooting slipped through the cracks. there was a 7-eleven workers. when he came in, how was he dressed? he was justin muslim it was white. i do not know what they call them he was just in muslim. it was all white? yes. had been in here before? yes, he would get coffee and hash browns. norman between 6:00 and 6:30. so he would come in that early normally between 6:00 and 6:30. was he normally in all white? he would have his uniform or civilian clothing. so this time, he had this on, but ge normally would be in uniform or civilian clothing? but he normally would be in uniform or civilian clothing? yes, and he just smiled at me, like normal, and i noticed his outfit, and i actually stopped and commented on it. i said, why are you all dressed up today? and he was very evasive. i think he said it just to blow me off, basically. he was talking like it was normal though? he was so peaceful that morning. i do not know, kind of peaceful and serene. he was standing over here, just gazing out. was the normally about business when he came in? he just seemed like a guy going to work? a guy going on base? a guy going to work, getting his coffee, and i try to make of my customers smile. but on this morning, he seemed to different? he was just a little bit off, like i said, he seemed peaceful to me, is the feeling i got off of him. greta: all right, inside major hasan s apartment. investigators have now removed bags of evidence from the apartment. they did it right after the shooting, but many things remain in the apartment. jordanian and israeli coins, a paper shredder, a box of prescriptions, which, incidently, he had prescribed it to himself. there were a few pieces of furniture left behind and nothing on the walls. our producer talked to the apartment manager. this is where hasan lived. he moved in at the end of july. we spoke to many of the neighbors, but they gave us some perspective about his life here. we spoke to the manager at the complex here who told us a lot about seeing hasan around and what happened the day the shooting happened down the road. i asked the detective, and they said that they had just confirmed a shooter dead, and he was on television, and i told them, they just confirms that they get shot and killed him. later that evening, we found that he was still alive. nobody actually knew him. he would come and go, and sometimes people would be sitting out here, and he would be like, good evening, how are you doing? and i would be, ok, how are you? and he would say, blaslessed. others never complained about him as a neighbor? no, n. no. when did you return to the complex after you all had to lead? had to leave? the bomb squad when in and make sure everybody was out. we went in and made sure everybody was out. the bomb squad went in. greta: the expectation is he will be tried by a military court. a colonel joins us live who met with him. colonel, you have got a lousy job, but the constitution demands that this man have counsel, and i think everyone in the country is certainly grateful to you for having stepped up to it, because nobody wants it, but he does have constitutional rights. having said that, you have spoken to your client. what was it like talking to him in the hospital? well, it was very, very beneficial, but it was limited. i went down there for a very limited period of time. i spent about 30 minutes with him, and it was primarily to identify myself to him. it was also to seek assurances from him that i wanted to do my utmost to defend him but also to receive from him concurrence that he wanted me to be a part of this defense team because he is the client. i also met with major martin. greta: was the intubated group was able to have a conversation with you? was seat in debated? intubated? was he able to have a conversation with you? near the end of that half- hour visit, which was limited strictly to introducing myself and talking about council, i could see that his eyes were glassy, and major martin and i agree that we needed to leave it that time and schedule another visit, and we are planning on doing that quite possibly as early as tomorrow introducing myself and talking about counsel. greta: you think of these military institutions as being safe, and you think of soldiers at risk in iraq, and afghanistan, and now, this. i cannot imagine that your particular popular because people do not understand the role of lawyers. are you getting hate mail at this point? i can tell you that today i did get some questionable emails, and the office did get some telephone calls, and we notified local authorities so that the appropriate steps to be taken, but with your question as to how someone approaches a case like this, as you know, i spent 30 years in the army with all kinds of positions, appellate government counsel, and also as a judge, and i think i was adamant in seven major intel in major in telling major hasan that i believe in the military justice system. i have found that after a while when you demonstrate to the public the importance of ensuring a fair trial, notwithstanding the serious nature of the offenses charged, most people will agree with you. all of the soldiers that we have in uniform fight abroad, a risk their lives, and they do that to protect our constitution and our lives, and that extends to everyone, including my client fight abroad, risk their lives. greta: this is just so raw, so absolutely raw what i say this man is simply accused of, but, frankly, it is difficult for me to say simply accused of. frankly, accused is not the word i would necessarily use with my friends talking about it. is it likely to be a military prosecution, or is it any chance to be in civilian courts? well, greta, you were talking earlier, and you were using the word accused. as of tonight, i have still not been in receipt of a formal complaint or what is used in military court-martials. i have not been in receipt of that. the word on the street than i am getting an hearing on national media that i am getting and hearing on national media is that it will be kept in military channels, but, again, not having seen a military charge sheet, not having received specific notice from officials that that is their intended to proceed, like you, i have some questions. their intent to proceed. there are some large issues, and that is if my client can get a fair trial if court is convened at fort hood. as you know, our commander in chief was here for the memorial service. and i am not the only person asking these questions. earlier today, when i was in the supermarket, and people learned that i was on this case, many people, including people who had prior military affiliation, approached me and asked, do you think he can get a fair trial here? i am also concerned about it. greta: and, colonel, we all want a fair trial, because in the end, we want justice, and i suspect he will get a fair trial but will not be particularly pleased with the result, but, indeed, the process must be fair, and, colonel, good luck, sir. thank you very much, greta, and just urge your listeners in the beginning about the importance of ensuring a fair and just proceeding at trial. greta: he is going to get it. i do not think he will be happy with the results, but he is going to get it. up next, more about his contacts with the radical imam overseas. congressman pete hoekstra has something on this. and we now have new information on how many troops could soon be joining the war in afghanistan. ambassador john bolton goes on the record. ms. you guys so much. i will be home in a couple of months bu. the history of moms@ has ever turned down a hand-made ornament. that s why we ve set up santa s wonderland at bass pro shops. where kids can get their picture with santa. and, this weekend, make a@ chrismoose ornament. and it s all free. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute www.ncicap.org greta: before the massacre at fort hood, the suspect emailed an imam, and he got a response. congressman pete hoekstra joins us on the telephone. good evening, congressman. what do you know about the major that is now sitting in the hospital, being accused of doing the unthinkable, and this imam? it is clear there was email traffic going both ways. i have not seen the content of its, but you have to look getting in the larger context. any one of these events in and of itself may not have been enough to trigger an in-depth investigation, but when you put the email traffic with his powerpoint presentation with the comments of his colleagues and all of those types of things, you would have hoped that all of that information would have got into a single place that would have clearly set up the red flags. greta: ssent up t sent up the red flags. greta: co-workers must have been very suspicious. there was nothing right with this guy. that the evil lurking in his soul i cannot believe these were isolated, these powerpoints. they may be just the uncomfortable saying something. i think that is what we need to ask. did all the information get to one place at one time for evaluation? and then the second question is, was there an element of political correctness that led these people to say, hey, we are not going to bring this up. we are just going to get in trouble. we are going to leave it alone. greta: there is a difference between having respect for someone s background or religion and being sloppy, stupid, and having it result in something catastrophic, and as we hear more and more, it begins to look like where was everybody? how do you promote this guy to major? do you not sort of dig into his background? maybe that would have been an obvious thing. before you promoted him in may, would you not have looked at him a little bit more? that may have been possible, but, greta, we have seen the same thing over the last eight or nine months. it was a short time ago that the department of homeland security to said they are not going to use the word terrorism anymore. we are going to use the term man-made disaster. everyone is looking at political correctness, not looking at it at it as terrorism, but looking at it as a criterion we have to believe what we see. but looking at it as a crime. we have to believe what we see. we are going to have to identify it and call it what it is. otherwise, we will never find a solution to deal with it. greta: am i wrong in thinking that if you re in the military, you sort of give us some sort privileges and rights, so it would not have been out would notnorm if someone was speaking out it would not have been out of the norm, that you could sort of call them on the carpet and give them a cross exam or the once over? in the military, do you not sort of surrender i would think that you would surrender some of the privileges you would otherwise have. well, greta, you are the legal experts, but i would think that is exactly right. once you get into the military, and you recognize your responsibility to your colleagues and your country, some of those liberties, some of those freedoms, have to be held back because you have that responsibility to keep america safe, and in this case, it is apparent or at least pretty apparent that hasan crossed the lines, but he never triggered anyone to call him out on it. greta: and tonight, 13 are dead. that is right. greta: congressman, thank you. i am sure we will hear more about it in the coming weeks, and we will learn more about more emails. thank you, sir. up next, the nation is waiting, and understandably, many veterans are on edge. when will the president to decide about afghanistan? we have new information for you. ambassador bolton is next. and steve moore shows up tonight. you do not want waistbands tugg. ready to hold your breath. (announcer) we understand. you need to save money. greta: president obama holds a meeting with his high-level advisers about afghanistan, and according to the associated press, the president rejected all of the options. meanwhile, it was reported that the u.s. ambassador in afghanistan has reservations about a troop surge because he has so many considerations about hamid karzai has so many reservations about hamid karzai. ambassador john bolton joins us. ambassador, nice to see you. he got that report in august, and we still have not heard from the president, and there are a service member is at risk. we have got to help them, our soldiers there are service members at risk. this is like watching a slow train wreck, watching this process, it is really is having a debilitating effect on troop morale in afghanistan, and globally, it is having a debilitating effect on america s reputation. it is not just the president s indecisiveness in afghanistan but his weakness and indecisiveness in other areas, as well, that gives the reputation that he has got a problem making hard decisions. greta: i am less worried, a big picture, of his indecisiveness. i am more worried about the men and women on the ground there. maybe they should be pulled out or need reinforcement or something, but one thing we know is that the status quo is bad. the numbers are up in terms of injuries. they are catastrophically higher. so something has to be done. we need to make some decision. well, i think we have to focus on what america s strategic interests are in afghanistan, and i think there are basically two. one is that we do not want taliban and al qaeda to taking it as a platform to launch terrorist attacks, and number two, and more important, now, if we do not want the situation in afghanistan to contribute to instability in pakistan, which could cause that government to fall into radical plans and with it a very substantial supply of nuclear weapons. we do not have an unlimited amount of time, and our strategic interests cannot depend on how well they do, and i think to the extent that the president is looking for ways to lay this all on the government in kabul, he is missing the real point about what we were there in the first place. greta: it has already spilled over. 100 plus blown up at a market. it has already poured into that nuclear country of pakistan, so we are, you know, perilously beyond that point. but that is precisely why we need a steadfast strategy in afghanistan to grind both the afghan and the pakistan taliban organizations between the pakistan military on their side of the border and the u.s. and nato forces on the afghan side of the border, because if we are not able to bring this under control, i think there is a very grave question in the fairly near future that we would see even more instability in pakistan and the possibility that the government would fall, which would be an enormous setback to u.s. and other interests around the world. greta: and not to mention to scare india to death. tell me if this is significant, or not. this is about the u.s. ambassador to afghanistan. it says in a strongly worded classified cable to washington, the ambassador talks about new trips while there is still questions of leadership. talks about new troops. the fact that the associated press has that means that there are leaks, that this is a situation where people are talking, and you have weeks when you have descension. you do not have leaks when everybody is happy or on the same page. more troubling than the disorder and the administration s decision making process is the media reporting what is going on, because i do not think it necessarily portrayed accurately how this is being fought out. the fact that cables like that are being leaked i think, there will still be disagreement when it is over, regardless of the decision reached, and this is regardless of what troop increase the president decides on, because it means he is not leading towards a kabeer decision despite working on it for almost four months towards a clear decision. greta: ambassador, thank you. up next, a big, huge, part of the health-care debate. could big people soon be shelling out big bucks? 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and two, should think people have to pick up the tab for overweight people who get sick? joining us is steve moore, the editorial writer for the wall street journal. i do not want to get close to this with a 10-foot pole. this is not a good topic. well, you know, this has become one of the real spark points of the health-care debate. there is a huge section of the bill dealing with wellness, and we do know that people who live healthy lifestyles, who maintain their wage, to get involved in physical activity, do not smoke, do not drink who maintain their way to weight, it is an interesting, ethical point. whether they can be charged, people who take care of themselves, less than people who are overweight or however we describe these people? in doing some research on this issue, there is actually an advocacy group in washington for the advancement of fat people, looking out for their interests come and as it is right now, insurance companies are not allowed to charge different premiums based on people s weight. greta: specific language that we cannot be taken into consideration weight cannot be taken into consideration. $147 billion in medical spending dealing with conditions pertaining to obesity, and another statistic is that 9.1% of all medical spending is obesity. now, if we can find at how to get everybody fit, that would be a great start. i am very much in favor of allowing insurance companies to charge different premiums based on a person s health and living styles. and i do think that, look, if i am trim, and living right, i should not have to pay the same premiums for someone as someone who does not work out and eat all of the wrong food. if you want to hold down costs in health care, we have to do something about obesity. it is a national epidemic, and this is an interesting question. should someone like you pay the same insurance rates as oprah? i say no. greta: oprah can afford to pay anything. she can buy our health-care system. incentive programs for wellness, getting 30% off, and if you happen to be healthy when it starts, you will not get that 30%. on the people he starts off with a more rugged situation. we know about those who have these insurance plans to put financial incentives to lose weight if they are obese or to engage in collective v. it works very well. as you know, i never interviewed john macky with whole foods. i am in favor of this. i am not sure what political correctness is interfering with something that can really reduce health-care costs. greta: the better the think tastes, the more fastening it is. there is something grotesque about that the better the thing tastes, the more fattening is. there is something grotesquely unfair about that. the more fattening is. here is the point, greta. the more fattening it is. people are not a victim. they can change their behavior, and i think that is the reason why i come down on the side of saying, yes, and look. a huge amount of the cost of our health-care system is related to obesity, heart disease, stroke, cancer, diabetes, all of these things. greta: i want all of our viewers to know that steve said this, i did not. i won this argument today. greta: all right, if you see some republicans dancing in the street, we might know why. we report, you decide. plus, whoopi goldberg just dropped the i bomb on the view, idiot. at our father and guided to the, liberty. to the week saying. long may our land beebread 8 the bright @ from america s newest headquarters, investors hope to keep wall street s mean streak to another. it is a 13 month high. the market is being powered by the fed post a promise to keep interest rates low for a while. brazil s government is blaming heavy rain for the mass of a blackout leaving 16 million in the dark. it hit 18 states including retardation narrow. track that including rio de janeiro. traffic was bumper to bumper for hours. they are preparing to host the 2016 olympics. to on the record with greta van susteren. thanks for watching fox. have a good night. greta: republicans with their eye on an office in 2010 have some good news. 44% say a democrat. 48% say people would vote for republicans. tucker carlson joins us live. tucker: hey, greta. it is bad news for the president. i think the white house took the last election as a mandate for his policies for change, when, in fact, it was not that. it was an expression of support for him as a uniting figure, something he has turned out not to be, and a reaction against bush, but i do not think they understand that, and i think they are forging ahead with policies that are not in the mainstream with american opinion, and his numbers are suffering as a result of that. can republicans take advantage of the weakness on the democratic side? i am not sure. i am not sure the republican party is in the best place to fully leverage the opportunity, but we will see. shgreta: taking an issue like the economy, which is the most important to families, and in october, 50% sign approved about the president was handling the economy. now, of course, we have a 10.2% unemployment rate 50% approved. the trend. it is not necessarily the numbers, but it is not going in the right direction for him. tucker: yes, the trend is not his friend. the real unemployment rate is up near 70%, people who, many who have just stopped finding jobs the real unemployment rate is up near 17%. you also have the president who is intent on spending money we do not have, and i think as the debate gets even more intense of this health-care bill, you will see even people who have voted for barack obama is to say we just cannot afford this, and now is not the timeee time to add on regulation. it is going to get worse. greta: i do not look at the polls, well, maybe. i know. here is one, and i hope the president is not looking at this poll. 54% oppose sending more troops to afghanistan. that is an increase from october, a 3% increase, opposed. i am not talking to the generals. i do not know what the right thing is, but the one thing that is distressing is that we do not have a decision, and i hope the fact that i know general mcchrystal said in august we need more troops, 40,000 more. we still do not have a decision, and now, we have got the american people who are indicating a trend that we do not want more troops sent. is that in any way inhibiting the president in making the right decision? i hope not. tucker: not only do we not have a decision, we do not have a policy that people understand. i can promise you that not one in 1000 americans can name the policy in a sentence. by the way, bringing democracy to afghanistan, turning it into belgium, that is not good enough. there has to be a rationale obviously rooted in our own interests. this is a sleeper issue for obama. he was touting afghanistan as the right war, during the campaign. he said he would increase troop levels. greta: no one has been able to win in afghanistan. tucker: that is right. greta: this is not an easy challenge for this president or anyone else, and our soldiers are getting killed and injured. we need to move on this one. trucker: tucker: it is the graveyard. if they do understand what the mission is, they will not support it. greta: i just want some decision, because i see these numbers every day about the soldiers and the head injuries, and everything else. tucker, thank you. tucker: thank you. greta: up next, whoopi goldberg on the view, ún greta: well, you have seen our top stories, but here is the best of the rest. the ladies of belleview are out to get you. the ladies of the view. whoopi goldberg is not happy about the pilots drinking. what is wrong with you, idiots? i am sorry. there are 3 million people on an airplane. how dare you? how dare you, in their drunk to fly people across the ocean? what the hell is wrong with you? [applause] we were talking about getting whoopi goldberg over her fear of flying on this show. i always check the cockpit, and i was not on this airplane. since we are in show biz, when they fly across the country, they have to fly us first-class. from now on, i am going to sit in the cockpit. greta: well, i am with whoopi goldberg on that one. and the video speaks for itself. well well, a series of rock slides in tennessee. you just saw and heard one of them caught on tape. u.s. 64 has been shut down in both directions in eastern tennessee. it is not known how long it will be closed, but we do know that the cleanup will not be fine, but there you have it, the best of the rest the cleanup will not be fun. and we haveñ greta: today is veterans day, and on the record says happy veterans day to all of our troops. [ stars and stripes plays] present arms. [ taps plays] we call this a holiday, but for many veterans, it is another day of memories that drive them to live their lives each day as they possibly can. to our troops, is another day in harm s way. for their families, it is another day to fill the absence of a loved one and a concern for their safety. for our wounded warriors, it is another day of slow and arduous recovery. at the national cemetery, it is another day when grief remains fresh, and for those serving in far-flung places today, when you see our flag, you will be home in an america that is forever here for you that as you are forever here for us. [bagpipes play] we pause today as a coalition command, just as our nations will pause at home, to remember those who have served, to honor their service and their many sacrifices. today, we also acknowledge those currently serving here in afghanistan, in iraq, and around the world. [ when the liberty of thee i sing ox news channel]

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