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scratching their head and saying, wait a minute, what about this date, does it actually help donald trump in some says, jonah? >> big picture, no. it helps him with his role in the primaries and how the base is going to rally around him and all that. but that was going to be the case no matter what. basically the first question you have to ask is should this trial go before the election or after the election? and if you think it should go before the election, for whatever reason, legal, political, moral, entertainment, whatever, then it's basically impossible to find a good date that wouldn't prompt trump to say election interference. because he announced incredibly early that he was running for president so he would be able to claim election interference if he was ever prosecuted for anything. it's his legal and political strategy. it's just going to be baked into the cake of all the discourse about this stuff. >> this is just more of the same. >> it is just more of the same. i think that's what we're going to continue to see unfold.
he's going to continue to use -- this is the centerpiece of his campaign, the grievance, they are coming after me, they are persecuting me, then you, and i'm the only thing standing in between them coming after you. that is the rationale for his campaign. so i suspect they're going to try to raise more money. i agree with jonah. ultimately, i don't think it will be good for his campaign yahoo news/ugov show asked if you would support president trump if he was convicted and his support actually dropped. so, when he's trials start and people start hearing the evidence, i can't see that it's going to be good for trump with the larger american electorate. >> there's another poll that i found really fascinating from the "associated press" asking americans the word or phrase that comes to mind when thinking
first of all, i'm not surprised that those are the words people came up with, because talking about joe biden's age in this election cycle has become like talking about hillary clinton's emails in the 2016 cycle. and i was there, i lived it, it feels like we talk about it over and over and over again. so, of course, it's top of mind. instead of, again, during the election, the president will have, i believe, he has a strong record to run on. i think we've seen people count him out time and time again. i think we're going to see him continue to are not a strong campaign, he and the vice president. and i think he'll beat crooked donald trump. jonah, karen, nice to see you both tonight. thank you. "outfront" next, police just releasing new surveillance video of the moments leading up to the racially motivated deadly shooting in jacksonville, florida, over the weekend. we're also learning why the gunman was forced to change his original plan. plus, florida's national guard has been activated. millions along the gulf now being told to prepare to