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cosmopolitan bias on twitter. >> come on -- >> you saw it and you want to keep reinforcing that. if anything, when they see it. >> it plays into donald trump's hand -- >> kasey: the one caveat is the where he basically says, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is not going to happen, you're not going to pay for it but you can't say that. i'm not convinced he would actually want that version of the story out there. >> you were talking about the greatest hits at the top of the show, lock lock so so he said
trn owe fay to me -- >> it's a pretty simple landscape that we're looking at. in every instance, whether it's russia, whether it's the drafting of the statement on the plane, whatever it, is the source of conflict with the truth is the president of the united states. and that lead to an unbelievable burden on. like -- >> kasey: it makes it impossible to deal with a cliend, you're unthe with the mess afternoon it clay flarjs the burden everybody has. but let strip this down and make it simple. independent sit in our po
if mr. trump wants someone to blame for the existence of special counsel robert mueller, he can pick up a mirror. mr. trump prides himself as a man above political convention, but there are some conventions he can't ignore without destroying his presidency, and kasey, republicans on capitol hill are -- i would -- i would contend they might be at a risk at this point if they don't take a look at what's happening here and decide whether or not they want to go their own way. >> i think we may be at that point. how often are "the washington post" wrote an editorial that sounded a lot like what you just read. when the editorial pages are on the same page, that's pretty surprising. and look, i think i have been surprised by the just complete directness with which republicans have been going at this issue private slly, public. it doesn't compare to other situations where you get people walking onto the subway train
yet that paul ryan has faced as the republican house speaker. republicans have the white house, they have the house, they have the senate, they got that trifecta in the last election that they have been dreaming of, and the top of their agenda, they've been saying this for years now is repeal and replace. now, here it is from republican leaders, this is their replace plan. what will it take to actually get this through? you see right away, the margin for error here in the house, it is not that big. republicans right now, you heard it from kasey there, they're going to need 218 votes. 218 to get this thing through. that means there's not a lot of room here for defections, you lose 20, under 218. so you've got the keep the republicans in line in the house, but that's just the house, look, here's the thing. of course you have to go through the senate as well. margin for error in the senate right now, republicans, remember mike pence would break any tie as the president of the senate. you need 50, you lose three in the senate. you'reot at 50, and already,
saying if the russians were actively involved in not only getting information but weaponizing it, that's very serious and we look forward to the investigation. >> some view what reince priebus said yesterday on one of the sunday shows as opening the door to that and some speculate -- >> what did he say? >> if there's more information forthcoming from the fbi and unity among intelligence agencies and fbi about what happened, they would be more open to it. >> i thought i read a report that fbi and cia agree with each other. >> he is asking them to say it more publicly and formally than they have and trump will feel more free to do this. i still think -- you said there will be a select committee. i still think -- >> i said there should be. >> misheard you. i would be curious to know what kasey thinks about this. if mcconnell can be moved off this, he's a flexible guy. he understands the political winds. as of now his opposition to a select committee is a serious thing whether he's carrying
it's really unfortunate. win with grace. just don't go. and if you're on the other side, accept defeat with grace or just don't go. >> kasey what happened? this did get to a point where it was cringe worthy on both sides. both making good points but kind of lost in the ugliness of it. >> this is completely out of character with how these forums have gone in the past. the tone, people who have participated in them before, say it's usually really set by winners. in 2012 when mitt romney lost to barack obama, david axelrod and one of romney's top strategists met during one of the breaks and he invited her to come speak at the institute of politics. that's usually how these things play out. i think this one, the clinton campaign had such visceral emotion and the trump campaign really felt to somewhat understandably that they have not been given the credit for what they managed to pull off.
popular vote. hillary clinton and donald trump are knotted up at 48%. gary johnson took -- >> can i stop you there. how many times did we hear that donald trump's ceiling by the smart people was 41-42%. that's all we heard. 48%. that's stunning. >> gary johnson took 3.7 million votes or 3% of the popular vote. in florida, clinton losing by more than 120,000 votes. josogets in excess of 200,000 votes there. in pennsylvania, johnson took 2% of the vote. this is the guy that stuck his tongue out at kasey. several times. look at wisconsin and michigan. johnson takes 4%. and in michigan, the libertarian candidate gets 4% as well. here he is speaking to supporters last night. >> you know what? we came to dance and let's
>> i have to agree with what kasey said. i covered bernie sanders and i was on the phone with bernie sanders when he found out i was winning michigan. senator sanders, michigan looks like it's going to you. he was very, very shocked at that. he had that kind of press conference where he was really put together and not really understanding what he had really won this. i think that the things donald trump has taken from bernie sanders and idea about trade and bringing people back to work and idea about opening up factories, those are the messages that resonate in places like michigan. it's not overthinking it because of the week that hillary clinton had last week. a lot of democrats are worried about the state of the race. a lot of people felt like she would be in cruise control this week and that's just not the case. >> we had an nbc news tracking poll yesterday that showed the e-mail story over one week hadn't had that much of an impact nationally. are you hearing that on the trail? are you hearing that from
kasey, how did you know? how did you pick today? >> it was really tough, rachel. i just called the south carolina board of elections and i asked if they had said anything about when it would be possible to get off of the ballot in south carolina. now, this was something i had several people suggest that i call the board of elections because they had heard that senator graham might be thinking along these lines. but essentially they set this as the deadline for the last chance that they could definitively say your name is not going to be printed on any ballot. and think about it. if you're lindsey graham -- and he's not just the senior senator from south carolina. he really is in many ways the south carolina political machine embodiedoperatives in this state. and if he were to get on that ballot and not do well, and their internal polling was telling them he needed to do "wall-e" in another state if south carolinians are going to get on board with them. you don't want to go into this election and only post a couple of points, rachel.
bush. >> kasey, a new ohio poll this morning showing the race virtually unchanged from a month ago. anything that sanders and o'malley are doing or trying to do that could change the momentum? >> josé, you did see bernie sanders yesterday putting out an immigration plan. at this point hillary clinton has had several opportunities to demonstrate that she deserves to be in this position of strength. i think one of the issues that she dealt with in 2008 was a sense of entitlement. that's something her campaign has worked hard to push back against but it's also something that news events have lent her opportunity after opportunity and she has really stepped up her game in many ways, whether it was the first debate or whether it's been her response in the wake of the paris attacks, coming out and essentially saying she would be stronger than president obama in trying to fight isis. that said, sanders is trying to make waves. he put out on immigration plan yesterday. in many ways that plan echoed what hillary clinton had already said about this. he would implement executive orders to try to expand the