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attorney who says these charges right now are accusations as she plans to defend him through this process. >> incredible disturbing. kyung, thank you. the florida governor ron desantis pushing to permanently ban masks and vaccine requirements. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ start your day with nature made. the #1 pharmacist recommended vitamin and supplement brand.

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information you'd have access to and others. and the idea of every little kernel. we talk about comedy, how it's been funny, a kernel of truth is contained in it, and it's exaggerated. well, the idea of false narratives, a kernel of some semblance of truth, and then it's exaggerated, or it's exploited in some way that heightens peoples awareness of things and capitalizes on their naivete and ignorance. olivia when this happens, you are shaking your head at the idea of these committee assignments. but more broadly, i mean, the truth is, is there a way to actually quell this and stop it, if it's online chatter, if it's beyond, if you can't access it and tangibly hold it? >> well, you quell it with facts. but the problem is you have a bunch of elected leaders who aren't interested in talking about the truth. when they're doing, like he said, when you're doing a committee that's going to talk about weaponizing the government, people are taking that in and they're thinking, oh, the government is coming after me potentially. they're seeing that, right. they're going to investigate possibly covid, right.

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of course, the wildcard here is they don't know necessarily if anything new is going to come out at anytime in the future. that was certainly a problem they faced in that first week here. and officials acknowledge, they don't know if more investigation or more searches will come to part. they also don't know if more documents will come to light. but at this point in time, they feel they have at least steadied things, at least compared to where they were last week. >> i mean, it's quite a change. and you're right, it's only really been a week of having even had this story emerge. although this happened back in november, the first realization of it. phil, thank you so much for this. you know, i want to bring in now cnn senior justice correspondent evan pérez, who has new reporting tonight on the story. and senior law enforcement analyst andrew mccabe, the former fbi deputy director. evan, let me start with you. because you heard the reporting from phil, and the idea that the words he used were unsteady at first, they weren't engaging. they were having a political response to the house republicans, who were going after it, and what they were doing. but you have some new reporting here tonight.

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accomplices are four democratic officials. i want you to take a look at this list. these are four locations. you can see the dates of when these shootings happened. they're spread out over the month. according to law enforcement, this man, solomon peña, went and hired people, he sent them text messages, he went and essentially cased these victim's homes. and then he paid accomplices in order to target these people. and as you pointed out, laura, thankfully no one was hurt. but investigators say they believe this all again circles down to election denialism and this person who was on the ballot, laura. >> i mean, the trauma of what has happened. and you mentioned the idea of casing these houses. he actually went to some of these houses beforehand, right. he wasn't outside sort of in an innocuous way. he actually went and visited them. >> yeah, and i think that's really what's changed. if you talk to election officials nationwide, and i talked to a lot of them,

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fully with the doj probe of presidential records. we also have some major developments tonight, a massachusetts missing mom, ana walshe. her husband is in custody tonight, facing a charge now of murder, murdering his wife. though her body has not been found. and there's no word yet on what the motive could be. the da says more evidence could be disclosed tomorrow. what might we learn? for more on the developing story in new mexico, though, i want to bring in cnn senior national correspondent kyung lah, who's live from albuquerque, and cnn chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller. i'm glad to have you both. this story is so disturbing, thinking about what could have been. and we've seen obviously, kyung, the idea of political grievance more broadly sparking a whole lot of incidents. now, what's happening there, tell me the very latest, what are we learning about this suspect, who is now in custody?

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elections were fake, really speaking erratically. i didn't feel threatened at the, time but i did feel he was erratic. >> and i spoke with her in person, you know, a little earlier this evening, laura. and she was distraught. she's really -- >> of course. >> she's really upset by the fact that her sense of safety has changed. and something else i should mention is this overall problem may not be ending nationally. but at least here in albuquerque, police say they are zeroing in on peña. he has a court hearing tomorrow. >> john, just hearing this and thinking about what could have happened. i mean, the idea of the anger he expressed, as kyung was speaking about, face to face with some of the people whose homes were then targeted later on. i'm interested about the arrest and how their of the pieces together, especially when you saw that screenshot of the different dates that were attributed to each different peoples homes. and i wonder if there is an attempt to try and make disappear random.

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believe they have a pretty attractive foil in house republicans, who have launched two of their own investigations in that manner. in the course of the last two days, you've seen white house officials really ramp up critical offense when it comes to attacking house republicans are investigating this matter, particularly the house republicans who are not willing to investigate former president donald trump's own classified documents investigation that's been underway. trying to kind of coalesce around the idea that this is a political fight to have, as well as long as the investigation and the legal battle are underway. while they will not deal with the legal battle, they will not address the legal battle, and they will maintain they will fully cooperate with that ongoing legal matter, when it comes to the politics of this issue, they say two things. one, they're very willing to attack republicans head on when republicans go after the president. but also they're going to try and maintain some semblance of business as usual. you have not seen the president diverge from his schedule. you've not seen the president move away from any of the issues he was planning to talk about before all these issues came to light.

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murder. >> and as we sit here tonight, we're not aware that a body has been found of this woman, ana walshe. and yet, they are proceeding with a murder charge nonetheless. >> so laura, they're relying on two important things, maybe three. number one, the circumstantial evidence. if this is not the story, take a look at the story he gave. which one holds up? two, the scientific evidence. what does the massachusetts state police lab able to bring together in front of a jury, in able to say this would be statistically impossible to be otherwise? and three, precedent. this d. a.'s office is the one that had the other case, the first one in massachusetts history, where they convicted someone back in 2003 for a 1998 murder where they never recovered a body. another husband who killed another wife. >> you know, thinking about all of that in context, i do wonder at tomorrow's hearing, are we going to get some idea of a motive here? not that there's a justification, which is always

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second amendment rights. so, if you weren't expecting this to happen now, i guess you're expecting it to happen next week. this is the direction, the vitriol is headed. where in the chat rooms i was looking at last week, they were saying we haven't come this far just to come this far. >> john, kyung, thank you so much. i want to bring in olivia troye, former homeland security and task force adviser to president pence. and fbi assistant director peter strzok. it's very chilling to hear those words. i haven't come this far to see this come. far something that's most motivate people to do the right thing. now being used to air outs on grievances in a way that could lead to extraordinary violence is. and this is very personal to those who are often targeted in this realm, people who are going out there every day lives and in their positions, and find themselves at the receiving end of vitriol. you've had personal experiences, olivia, in this area.

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who has now been interviewed by federal investigators. we'll tell you who it is and what happened. as the biden ministration is now saying that tonight, it will continue to cooperate fully with the doj probe of presidential records. we also have some major developments tonight, a massachusetts missing mom, anna walsh. her husband is in custody tonight, facing a charge now of murder, murdering his wife. though her body has not been found. and there's no word yet on what the motive could be. the dea says more evidence could be disclosed tomorrow. what might we learn? for more on the developing story in new mexico, though, i want to bring in cnn senior national correspondent kyung lah, who's live from albuquerque, and cnn chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller. i'm glad to have you both. this story is so disturbing thinking about what could have been. and we've seen obviously, kyung, the idea of political grievance

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