the kidnapping of hanna anderson and the murder of her brother and mother. lora dimaggio is speaking out for the first time. plus yosemite in flames, the raging fire threatening san francisco s water supply. you loved him and now cnn s inside man morgan spurlock is back going with the biggest band since the beetles, and i ll ask him about miley cyrus and her twerking. cnn s fred is the only western reporter in damascus and he joins me on the phone. fred, what is the latest on the ground in damascus? is there a sense that a military attack from the united states and other u.n. countries could be coming at any moment? reporter: oh, it certainly is. there is a feeling a military attack could be coming soon. i ve been in touch with syrian officials and given interviews with the country and powerful men here and you have the syrian officials are talking to you have just changed. two days ago i was talking and they were very bold and warning the united states, if the u.s. attacks they would strike back. they are saying similar things but the tone completely changed. you re hearing things like the weapon inspectors on the ground for the u.n. should be able to complete their work before anyone comes to conclusions. they keep talking about the u.s. not having an international mandate and the u.s. having to explain all this to voters in america and people around the world. you can sense that there is a new nervousness here. it seems as though they are opening up and realizing the fact that it s not really a question of if anymore but when. that s causing the talk at least amongst some syrian officials. the mood changed considerably here on the ground, piers. now cnn obtained this exclusive video by a direct hit from the chemical weapons attack. some of this video is graphic and disturbing. tell us, the latest mood, i guess, that people want to sense is what is president assad s reaction likely to be? reporter: that s a very good question. it s probably doubtful there will be any reaction but a lot will depend on what sort of military action is taken. if it s limited, i doubt there will be reaction. i was here when the israelis struck a big weapons depot and a whole mountain was set on fire for days and there was never really any sort of response, any military response. the syrian government knows well that it s air force is no match for the u.s. air force. they know very well they don t have much in the way of air defense, even though people keep talking about it. a lot of it is from the 1980s and difficult to stop america planes from doing their job. if the attack is limited, i doubt there would be any answer from the syrian government, piers. and finally, fred, is there massive debate on the ground in damascus about whether it was assad s forces that unleashed this chemical weapons attack or is it generally accepted it was from him? reporter: yeah, that debate changed in the past couple days, as well, and some of the video that we re seeing right now is one of the reasons. people here are seeing that there might be something more behind this than they thought. you know, we re in the government controlled part of damascus and people here are generally sympathetic to the government. when i came here, the people i spoke to, most of them on the ground in the syrian military or civilians said they simply could not imagine that the government would ever do such a thing as use chemical weapons, but as more and more of these videos surface, people are questioning things and wondering what exactly happened there, and people are coming to light we ve lost fred at the end of the report there. we ll try to get him back. fred pleitgen, one of the few western reporters on the ground there. what will president obama do about syria and will the rest of the world back him? i have my guests here, fred town send, cnn s national security analyst, and new york times columnist nick chris. what do you believe is the most likely military action president obama will take and how effective, in your experience, do you think it will be? my political judgment is that the administration will not do a lot. it s making a very narrow case that what we have here is not a large issue inside of syria but a small specific issue of chemical weapons used which needs to be addressed, and i m concerned that what this president will do is a small limited attack to number one punish assad. however, i think it will be limited as a result and i think everybody in the region will take away a view america is weaker because of this. adam shift, i mean, the that is correct and that seems to be the perceived wisdom, will it be thatfective and dismantle the regime, which is something most people have been calling for for quite sometime now. what is the point of it other than making a political statement? i think it will be effective if the object is to detour assad from using chemical weapons again and feeling that this is now the new norm, chemical weapons are a tool in the military tool box. so i think it can be very effective and accomplishing that objective. the president doesn t want to own this war, and neither do the american people want to own this war so we have to be careful not to comment to things that we aren t ready to engage in the sense of getting fully involved in a civil war and another country by narrowly defining the mission, i think we can achieve that objective and detour the regime from going to a brutal and terrible weapon but it has to be narrowly defined mission so we don t have mission creep and get entangled in the war. nick, one of the problems administration faces is the fallout that continues from iraq where the american people and the british people, for that matter, were assured saddam hassan had weapons of mass destruction. britain and america are being told this man assad have used chemical weapons but haven t produced public evidence to that effect, this will not have much support with the public. how dangerous is that for president obama and indeed, other world leaders? i think the main reason president obama has not been more decisive is indeed the public has no appetite for some kind of broader international military engagement in syria. i think, you know, he s gotten advisories who pushed him to do that but he s resisted for that reason, and i think as you say, that the problem is that we overreact in afghanistan, we overreacted in iraq, and that has led to paralysis. but at the end of the day the approach in syria, it simply has not worked. the things that we try to prevent like the spread of the word to surrounding countries like the growing civilian slaughter, the steady escalation of the conflict, the radicalization of the rebels, those happened anyway. fred townson let s talk about president assad because everyone is talking about the need for him to go for well over a year now. we re now at the point of military action and yet that red trick is being rained back. it s not regime change, it s a retaliating attack concentrated on the chemical weapons. this is a bit of a mess how you sell this to an already skeptical public. is this guy a bad guy or not, and if he is, why are we not trying to seek to change the regime? that s right, piers. i frankly don t understand why administration would signal that we re not looking to change the balance of power but seeking to address the issue of chemical weapons. look, the limited targeted strikes, the cruise missile strikes, in and of themselves, we can t expect to be much of a deturrent. let s remember, after the bombings, president clinton sent missiles into afghanistan and sudan and that did not detour bin laden or the taliban and we saw them launch the 9/11 strikes from afghanistan where the missiles had been. missiles in and of themselves, once an out isn t an effective strategy. there has to be strategic objectives that are this age. this alone will not be affective. i frankly don t understand why you would signal that before you even started. absolutely piers can i respond to that quickly? you can. i think there is a reason why the president and administration is being specific about this. we don t want to give the syrian people the impression that we re the cavalry riding in to change the course of the war, and that they should rise up against assad and risk what happened in iraq when the iraqi people thought we would finish the job of sadam at the end of the persian gulf war. we don t want to risk further slaughter of the syrian people by giving that impression. the president needs to be clear with not only the american people about the limited scope of this potential military action but clear with the syrian people so they don t expect too much and we don t get ourselves drawn in and essentially own this conflict. right, but general, again from a military perspective, the rebels will see any intervention by the americans, british and french and others as being a plus for them because it will be a strike against the assad regime. so, effectively, the international community will be taking sides, won t it? there is no other way to describe what happened. the international committee has already taken sides. as soon as we said assad want tops go, everybody took sides but a limited strike as described by congressman will have a bolder iran convinced they are winning inside of syria because this is the best and the worse that america is willing to do. it will enboldon assad to stay in power and america is not serious to stand up to commitments and responsibilities in the region. i m not so sure about that. can i pipe in? yes, you can. you know, i think realistically there is very little chance politically of a sustained kosovo kind of operation. i don t see that as a realistic possibility here. will a short operation of a day or two or three make a difference? i think general is right there are real risks but on the other hand, president assad tested the community if you watch what he has done over the last couple years, he started by arresting protesters and opened fire on protests, then he began sending rockets and mortars, finally bombing rebel areas and finally bombing civilian areas and the gradual introducing of chemical weapons. it seems this is a racial actor. he wants to protect his toys, and i think there is some possibility that he can be detoured. i m not sure of it, but i think the present policy failed. piers, i think we also have to acknowledge the fact that we don t know how assad will react to limited cruise missile strikes and what he may do because you won t be able to take out the chemical weapon stockpiles with a single strike, he may decide he ll use them or lose them. he may actually use what is left of his chemical weapons against his population. so there are real risks, both to the deterrent strategy, to not having strategic objectives. this is not without parol. thank you very much to my guests. i m sure we ll talk again regularly about this over the next few weeks. an update on a story from last night. the search for jonathan croom obsessed with the movie into the wild. his body was found and police are investigating his death as a suicide. his father today said jonathan made everyone feel like he was okay but he was hurting inside and our deepest condolences go to the family. coming up, unanswered questions about the kidnapping of hanna anderson. i ll speak to lora dimaggio speaking out for the first time live since her brother s death. that s coming up next. when me and my mom weren t getting along very well, me and him would talk about how to deal with it, and i would tell him how i felt about it, and he would help me through with it. they weren t anything bad. hanna anderson talking about james dimaggio in the wake of hanna s kidnapping and the murders of her mother and brother. investigators are struggling to piece together? those answers may have died with dimaggio but the person closest to dimaggio speaks out, his sister laura joining me. obviously, a very difficult time for you and your family and everyone connected with this. have you got any answers to the questions, i m sure you ve been asking yourself about what your brother is alleged to have done? what specifically answer? specific questions would you be referring to? do you know why he did it? how do you know that he did it would be my question for you. there is no evidence. the only evidence that has come forward at this point is the fact that these two bodies were found on his property. i think there is a lot of holes in the case. there is a lot of missing information. i have yet to see any solid evidence. what do you think happened? in my heart of hearts, i think that hanna perhaps got herself into a situation that she couldn t get herself out of, and i do believe that my brother gave his life to protect her. do you really believe that, laura? i do. i mean, all the evidence points to him having left a booby trapped property that set fire and killed hanna s mother and her little brother. he then took hanna, we know undisputedly on this long road trip, anywhere longer than he had been before. why would he do this if he was a completely innocent man? let s start with the first thing that you went over, the booby trapping of the house. i have known my brother for years. he had trouble setting his water thermostat on his hot tub. my brother was one of the kindest people you ve ever met in your life. he worked diligently to save animals. he was not only a father figure and an uncle to the anderson children, he was to many other people, as well. the kind of the man that i know him to be, it s it doesn t add up. it doesn t make sense and for me, i need facts and i need evidence, real facts. obviously, the police are making it pretty clear that they believe he did set fire to the house. right. that he did commit a double-murder. uh-huh. and that he kidnapped hanna and took her away and he was in a shootout then with police, which that part of it certainly is indisputable, he was. uh-huh. many people watch this is it indisputable, is it really? that he was in a shootout with police? you don t believe that, either? i know one thing for sure. i was in touch with the fbi and u.s. marshals and san diego pd that entire week. they know that my brother and i were best friends, and we were all that, you know, we had left in our immediate family. they know that they could have flown me to idaho in a moment s notice. i could have been there in three hours and i could have talked to him, give me a mega phone and i would have talked to him straight out of there and he could have come home and had a trial as he deserves as anyone this in this country deserves what was he doing there? in idaho? yeah, why was he with this young just turned 16 girl? i mean, that s not a man of his age should be doing? fair enough. have you said that to yourself? i know that he thought of hanna as a daughter. i know that the wilderness up there, it is some of the most beautiful terrain that you ll ever see in the world, and that s one of the things that my brother and i enjoyed doing together, doing separately. you ve heard andrew talk about they went to yosemite. that s what we enjoyed doing. you were very close to james? yes. how close? he was my best friend. he was my brother. he was my father. he was everything to me. he was the person that i called if i had a question about life, love, career, anything. he was my first person that i called. he was my best friend. is part of your reaction to this, do you think, a sense of denial? i got to put that to you that you just don t want to believe that your brother could be capable of such a monstrous act as the police believe? we re coming back to still seeing no evidence, no the sheriffs the san diego sheriffs have basically said that the case is closed. the police report said he tortured christina and ethan, hanna s mother and brother and set fire to the house and burned them and kidnapped hanna and took her away. these are things the police have made clear from their point of view happened. well, where is the evidence?? i don t know. that s what i want to find out. he s the guy who took hanna to the middle of nowhere. what other explanation do you have? do you believe everything a 16-year-old tells you? we think she s just lying? i m not going to speak to that. you know hanna anderson, you know the family well. i do. do you believe there is a reason why she wouldn t be telling the truth? do you think i know the hanna anderson that i saw a few nights ago on the tv is certainly not the girl that stayed in my home three weeks prior to them disappearing. what do you mean? do what do you mean? i remember very vividly telling my brother, she s trouble. she s going i said, you need to watch out for that one, she s trouble. she was you know, came into my home, was very gracious. didn t say thank you once. she had on extremely heavy eye makeup, just wasn t wasn t the just didn t strike me as a i don t know. i don t want to bash anyone. it certainly not my intent. so if you believe she was troubled, then it may well be that your brother became infatuated with her i know she i know that, you know, jim did express at that time that he was she stated that she was very upset with her mother. she blamed her mother for her father moving to tennessee. it was, you know, didn t didn t appear to me it did concern me at the time. i mean, look, there will be people watching this saying come on, laura, you ve got to face facts. uh-huh. we understand that you re his only surviving sibling. we ll get in after the break after very troubled upbringing you had and close relationship. right. but in the end if it s the police saying all this stuff, and they are absolutely convinced that there is no doubt that your brother was a double-murderer and torturer and kidnapper, it may be that you have to face the reality that he just flipped, that he became obsessed with hanna. right. that he planned this road trip with her. right. that he cracked up, that he set fire to this house and that he disposed of the two people, whatever it may be, that he just became somebody that you wouldn t recognize as your brother. well, i think we re getting ahead of ourselves. when they can show me evidence, than i will deal with it at that time. let s take a short break. we ll come back and have more of this because i wasn t expecting you to say some of this stuff, and i want to go over it in more detail with you. okay. wish i saw mine more often, but they live so far away. i ve been thinking about moving in with my daughter and her family. it s been pretty tough since jack passed away. it s a good thing you had life insurance through the colonial penn program. you re right. it was affordable, and we were guaranteed acceptance. guaranteed acceptance? 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go call now! we ll finish up here. back with me now is lora dimaggio, the sister of james dimaggio, the kidnapper of hanna anderson. this is her first interview since her brother s death. piers, can i stop you? yeah. i would like to throw in there just i would like tory mind you that at this point my brother is still a suspect. he is not a killer. he is accused, and again, it is alleged. so i would just like to i mean, i understand that and this is on behalf of everyone watching saying look, the police have been very firm in their reports from this and public statements that they have little doubt that your brother was a double-murderer, torturer and kidnapper. so i understand why you as his sister defend him but i have to put again, it sounds to me like you re slightly in denial. uh-huh. i understand where you re coming from on that, i certainly do. how, you know, san diego police have not they refuse to return any of my calls. fbi refuses to return any of my calls. no one will speak to me. no one will give me any information. no one will release any of his property to me. i ve largely been left out of the loop and completely ignored throughout this whole process. and if there is evidence, i think that as, you know, the last remaining, you know, immediate family member of james, that i am i think they could share a little bit of that with me. tell me about the upbringing you had with james, because it was very tormented with your mother and father. we ve heard lots of rumor about it. the reality is that we stuck together a lot. we did have trying times. we also had a lot of happy times. we made our own life, and he took care of me a lot. your father went to prison and it was over a strange incident involving an ex-girlfriend. correct. the way he ended up at the ex-girlfriend s house and effectively seemed to kidnap her daughter. correct. and for that he went to prison. he later committed suicide and james lost his life on the anniversary of your father taking his life. do you think that was linked in someway? no, i think that in many ways they are very different situations. my father was on drugs and my father was a drug addict for years. my entire life that i knew him, he was on drugs. as soon as after he left the military, and we re not just talking about, you know, marijuana or something like that. he was, you know, on some very heavy drugs. my brother was not a meth addict, so i think you re talking about two totally different situations, although i did understand and can see the similarities. you had situation. you had a pact with your brother after your parents died that you would never leave the other one alone. right. tell me about that. no smoking and take care of yourself, watch out for yourself, don t do anything stupid. we agreed that we would stick around for each other for a really, really, really long time, as long as we possibly could until we were old and gray and that we would never leave each other alone. we had already lost so much. you must feel very alone now. i miss him very much. very much. he was the center of my world. did he ever, lora, give any sense to you of being very damaged by what had happened in his upbringing that could possibly explain what happened? and i don t want to prejudge, you re right the police investigation will have to conclude and everything else, all the evidence at the moment points towards him being guilty of heinous crimes, ones that you just can t believe your brother is capable of, but was there anything in his behavioral pattern over the years where you thought potentially one day he could crack up? you know, the only thing that i could say to that is that jim was very quiet. he never spoke about our childhood, whereas i was opposite. on every anniversary or birthday, jim, mom would have been whatever age today what not and he would say lora, you know, stop living in the past, stop living in the past. he was very quiet about everything, never spoke about it on his birthday he would pretty much turn off his cell phone and kind of, you know, go work on the property or something like that. he was always just very quiet. i don t know that he ever grieved of dealt with anything we went through as children or in his teenage years. you know could it all have just been building up, building up? i mean is it a possibility? anything is a possibility did absolutely. anything is a possibility. that he may have just completely flipped. it s certainly a possibility, but it s very hard to believe that someone who was just so genuine and so dependable every single solitary day just woke up one day and decided, you know, i m going to do this. it s very difficult to believe. you know, i also want to say that i m not in any way excusing, you know, i m not saying that he didn t have any part in it, but what i would like to know is i would like to have factual evidence of what exactly his part in it was, and, you know, when i have that evidence, i ll go from there. you were pretty critical of hanna anderson, a lot of people on twitter and if you want to give me a view of this tweet me at piers morgan but a lot of people acting angrily to that saying you can t attack a young kid, a 16-year-old girl that s been kidnapped by your brother who is a man nearly three times her age, regardless of anything else, you can t go after a young kid like that. what is your reaction? they have a right to their own opinion, and i have a right to mine. you it s sad that you were trying to get dna evidence to explore a theory that james had had a relationship with hanna s mother and that he may even be the father of hanna or indeed ethan or both. is that true, and if so, why did you do that? to this day i have not asked the andersons, you can ask the anderson family, i have not asked the andersons for any dna. do you intend to? we ll see when the time comes. james left all his money not to you, as he originally planned to but to the maternal grandmother of hanna. correct. was that a surprise to you? no, it was not. his argument, apparently is that he believed she was best place to take care of the kids should something happen to their parents. i mean, correct. you know, i remember speaking to him about it. it was never my children don t need it. i don t need it. and i want nothing more than you know, i have so much respect and love and deep, deep, deep respect in my heart for my brother that i want nothing more than for his wishes to be honored. i ve heard people say that, you know, i m upset about that, that he left them $100,000. it s really you spoke could not be further from the truth. you ve spoken to brett i called and let him know. absolutely. how that was conversation? it was very nice. i ve been you know, brett was my brother s best friend. in a sense, they were like brothers. my brother, you know, took on his family as his own and bernice was, you know, very much so a maternal role you know, role model in his life, and she helped him out did brett believe that james had done all this? did he tell you that? i think he was a little surprised, but, you know, i had just called him because i wanted to let him know that this was in place for him, not to worry. you know, he certainly has enough to worry about, and my deepest, deepest, you know, condolences. my heart just breaks for brett, really, it does. well, it s an awful situation for everybody involved. it is. i appreciate you coming on, lora. i know it s difficult for you and you didn t want to do this. you re perfectly entitled to have your opinion. it was your brother. i hope you find peace from this. thank you. we got a statement from the family, from the anderson family. no one in the anderson family or associated with the anderson family has received a request for dna from andrew or lora and they did not meet mr. dimaggio until the sixth month of tina s pregnancy with hanna and brett anderson s dna was used to identify the body of his dead son ethan anderson. this is a difficult time for both families and we wish her privacy and peace . to twerk or not to twerk. morgan spurlock, how are you? 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[ laughter ] let s have a little break. we ll come back and talk about your one direction movie, which is terrific and your view on the bigger international story, bigger than one direction, syria because you traveled around that region and i m sure you got a pretty good perspective of it, after the break. absolutely. breaking news tonight out of fairfield, california, where firefighters are battling a raging fire that s destroyed several buildings. and the rim fire continues to scorch yosemite park. officials say it s the seventh largest fire in california history. gary tuchman is live for us in groveland, california, with the latest on the rim fire. gary, bring me up to speed with how this fire is doing. reporter: since this fire started ten days ago, it s continued to grow. it s now the largest fire in california ever in recorded history. 287 square miles have been burned, the equivalent almost twice the size of las vegas, nevada. nobody has been killed, that s very important. it s an amazing fact, considering how big this fire is. in addition, there have been no serious injuries. the latest numbers we have, 31 homes destroyed. we re standing outside of yosemite national park. 6% of the park has been singed by fire. it s not the part of the park where tourists go. they re hoping to keep the fire away from the park where the tourists go. piers? gary tuchman, thank you very much. i want to bring back cnn s inside man, morgan spurlock. i want to play a little clip from this movie. as soon as someone tries to tell us what to do. it s like having five rowdies in class at school. thank you. enough of you. come on, now. they look each more handsome on your tv show, i ve got to tell you. they re taking america and the world by storm. they re getting the kind of crowds we haven t seen since the beatles. i m surprised as to why you made the movie. you like metallica, music like that. you ve done gritty documentaries. now you re doing a pop movie, albeit a very good one. why did you do this? to have the chance to make like a documentary blockbuster. a film that would appeal to a major audience. who wouldn t want to make a film without a band who are at this core of their career. as we re about to go into a room with them and see them explode. that s the road and journey we went on. to capture that with cameras is a rare opportunity. it s a terrific movie. i haven t seen it yet, but everyone who i know who has seen it says it s brilliant. let s turn quickly to syria, because you ve made movies about this region. you ve traveled around this region. what do you make of what s happening here? the biggest thing for me is you want to make sure all the information you re getting is accurate. that before we act we get real people on the ground who are verifying and justifying everything we re hearing. you ve got to get u.n. security inspectors in there. it is such a pressure cooker. when you travel around the world, there s already judgments about the united states. the last thing you need to do is make a mistake and make the wrong decision. i said earlier to the panel, one of the problems, and you ll know this from having traveled that region, there s so much distrust after what happened in iraq, that when governments say this bad guy has bad weapons and it turns out he hasn t, then trust goes, doesn t it? and it goes immediately. all it takes is one little thing like this to ruin it. we just can t afford that right now. morgan, i ve only you ve only been working at cnn for about a month, but you can come back any time. whenever you need me, i can twerk whenever you like. i like the idea of two morgans going at it. good to talk to you. thanks, piers. we ll be right back. that s all for us tonight. good evening everyone. tonight with washington talking war, we ll talk about what military action against syria would actually mean to american interests, american lives and millions of syrians living and dying under a dictator. also tonight, part would of our special of what we ve identified as america s worst charity when it comes to how much money they raise for dying children and how little they actually spend on them. and later, people say not vaccinating their children is a matter of faith, putting everyone at risk of childhood diseases that we sometimes forget can kill. dr. sanjay gupta weighs in. we begin with syria. the drums of war growing louder but tough questions what kind of military actio m
inspectors back to evidence for the alleged chemical attack. these pictures were posted online showing inspectors talking to survivors at a medical facility near damascus. u.s. warships, they are ready, but there are warnings here at home and around the world that the united states could create inextricable mess by conducting a military strike on syria. cnn is the only u.s. network broadcasting live from inside of the country, inside syria. fred pleitgen is on the ground in damascus with the very latest. fred, essentially what is it like to be there with people thinking and believing that a strike is imminent? well, i have to tell you, people really do seem to be nervous here. there s a lot of people that we speak to. obviously because we re in the government-controlled part of damascus, many people are sympathetic to the government and they will tell you out front that they have no fear, that god is on their side and that they believe that the regime will fight back. but there are certainly people that we ve also been speaking to off camera that say yes, of course they re nervous as to what exactly this will bring. there s people who are buying canned food and dry food thinking that all of this might escalate and things might get worse for them. because one of the things we have to keep in mind is that while there s been a civil war going on, there has been somewhat of a military balance with both sides. and so a will of people here in damascus can actually lead fairly normal lives. now many people think that might be in jeopardy. you don t get the sense that people are fearing for their safety, but they are fearing what sort of ripple effects this might have on the battlefield and whether or not things might escalate here in damascus. and do they believe that it s actually a good idea, either side, that they might be on, do they think that something long-term is going to be accomplished if the u.s. actually hits some of these military sites? reporter: i don t think anybody believes anything long-term is going to i mean, when you look at the opposition side, they ve been saying for a long time they want an air campaign. they ve been asking for a no-fly zone, similar to, for instance, what senator john mccain has been asking for. when you call in the government side, they don t think anything of this at all. they think this is a big mistake. the assad government has come forward and said they believe only innocent civilians will be killed because of that and the prime minister of syria has said he believes that the u.s. is simply trying to use false facts to create a pretext to try and attack syria. so certainly, if you look at the side of the government, they obviously think nothing of this, and they keep calling for the u.s. to give the u.n. weapons inspectors more time, but of course, the way things are going right now, doesn t look like that is the case. looks like time is running out. fred, thank you. appreciate it. any type of military operation in syria would be extremely complex. and what would the potential targets be? later this hour, i m going to ask former assistant secretary of state jamie ruben about that issue. and the weather might finally help thousands of firefighters struggling to contain this is the giant rim fire in california. just in time, the fire has scorched a huge area of land. it has burned its way into yosemite national park. for now, the yosemite valley and its iconic attractions are safe, as long as that wind doesn t change. casey, what is the situation on the ground right now? reporter: you talk about the big rim fire. it really is big. you re looking here at some of the 187,000 acres of fire at the yosemite area that has burned because of the rim fire. the good news, though, is that it is now at 23% containment. which means 23% of the perimeter of this fire is pretty much under firefighters control. but there are still a lot of areas that are troublesome. there s some hot spots. we saw them late yesterday. where there are trees still burning. some of these large trees, when they get weakened by fire, they can provide a lot of danger for firefighters because they ll fall down without warning. firefighters are spending most of their time now on structure protection, building fire lines, and later today, they re going to be sending some backfires to stop the fire from spreading. do we know if people are going to have to cancel their vacations or postpone their vacations for yosemite national park, the areas where campers will be for the holiday weekend? reporter: the short answer is no. if you look over here to my left, you can see that guardrail. that s one of the roads into yosemite national park. highway 120. this road has been closed to everything except emergency vehicles. that s so they can continue to fight some of these hot spots that are popping up alongside the roads from here to yosemite. but there are still two other roads that are open to allow visitors to come into the park. and officials tell us that it remains safe to do so, just bay matter of perspective. yosemite national park, 800,000 acres. only about 24,000 acres of the park proper have actually burned. about 3%. so most of it remains still in good shape. all right, casey, thank you. appreciate it. exactly 50 years ago today, hundreds of thousands of people marched on washington and heard the reverend martin luther king jr. s historic i have a dream speech. well, today, thousands are returning to the national mall to commemorate that day and the words that inspired a nation. president obama will speak along with former presidents bill clinton and jimmy carter, and in just about an hour, oprah winfrey set to take the stage as well. we ll also hear from the king family, including martin luther king iii and the reverend bernice king. civil rights leader and former u.n. ambassador andrew young spoke to the crowd earlier today and then broke into song. i woke up this morning come on, help me. a pretty festive atmosphere out there. joining me, donna brazile, and also joined by van jones, two good friends of mine here. you know, we just saw andrew young, we talked to him just the other day. i didn t realize he was such a beautiful singer, donna. give us a sense of what this is like to be there. well, this is a historic occasion. this is a reminder of not just a journey that we traveled over the last 50 years, but it s also a call to action to continue to fight for those issues and those concerns that dr. king laid before us 50 years ago. the march for jobs, the march to raise the minimum wage. the march for freedom and economic justice. this dream continues. despite the weather, people are here because they want to celebrate, but they also would like to recommit themselves to the fight for freedom for all. and van, we ve been talking about this all day, thinking about it. what life would have been like for us if we hadn t had this moment. if we hadn t had this civil rights movement. you know, my own family, my grandparents didn t finish an elementary school education. my parents grew up in the south in new orleans, segregation, drank at colored fountains. can you imagine a day, can you imagine what your life would have been like if this hadn t taken place? no, i really can t. i think sometimes people don t understand how emotional this is for many americans. i mean, the cab driver that was driving me over here broke down crying talking about his family and the struggle he s gone through. i tried to pay him, he wouldn t even take money from me. he said just go and tell the truth about what this means for us. such an emotional day to imagine the same spot that dr. king was standing there, he couldn t drink from a water fountain in parts of this country. and then 50 years later to, have a black president to stand on that same spot, it s so emotional. my mother grew up under segregation. my mother was mistreated. my father. my mother is not even 70 years old. she s still in her 06 60s. people are crying, people are hugging each other. it s just an emotional day for everybody here. and donna, you wear so many hats, but obviously this affects you personally as well. if you have a personal story. i know you also believe very much in the president and seeing the first african-american president in terms of just how far we ve come. well, as you know, it was about 30 years ago that i coordinated the national mobilization and directed the 20th anniversary of the historic march. i was 23. back then, mrs. king hired me on the campaign to make doctor. king s birthday a holiday. so i spent part of the morning reliving that moment with andy young and dr. lowery, congresswoman eleanor holmes norton, so many others. i was with them last night at the white house for a very wonderful ceremony. this is a remarkable day. but this is not just a day where we march today. we re going to continue to march and continue to march until we have freedom and justice for all in this society. i just want to add, dr. king has almost been elevated to family father status, because he took the founding reality of america which was very ugly when it came to race, but he held on to that founding dream that was in the declaration of independence and brought that to the country. i just think for him to be elevated to almost a founding father status in such a short period time is extraordinary. he took us from the founding reality which was ugly, but he held on to that founding tree freeh d freedom, which was beautiful. donna, you don t look a day over 23. you re looking good. i feel good. thank you. here s also what we re work on for this hour. a stunning upset at u.s. open. an amazing come from behind victory. we ll have a live report up next. and a syrian group launches a cyber attack on a new york times website. that story up ahead. chipmunks g. 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[ female announcer ] yoplait. it is so good. i tthan probablycare moreanyone else.and what? we ve had this farm for 30 years. we raise black and red angus cattle. we also produce natural gas. that s how we make our living and that s how we can pass the land and water back to future generations. people should make up their own mind what s best for them. all i can say is it has worked well for us. some supporters of the syrian government say that they are behind a cyber attack on the new york times. more than 18 hours, the paper s website was down. the syrian electronic army is now claiming responsibility. now in a message on the new york times official twitter account, the paper said the attack was affecting readers in europe and asia. two weeks ago, the group went after other news sites, including cnn and the washington post. any type of military operation in syria would be, of course, extremely complex. the white house makes it clear that regime change is not the goal of any possible u.s. strike. so, what would the potential targets be? what would the objective be? my next guest can help explain all the possible strategies. jamie ruben is former assistant secretary of the u.s. state department. now a visiting scholar at oxford university. joins us from france. good to see you. we ve got a lot of ground to cover here. one of the things that you mentioned was in the new yorker recently. this is may 13th, 2013 article. it s called the thin red line, it refers to the president s foreign policy. in it you say, there s a quote, in foreign affairs, regarding obama, he seems risk averse at using force and even diplomacy. there are no big diplomacy initiatives. there is little peace effort in the middle east. we used to have a whole part of our foreign policy we called the america the peacemaker. we don t do that anymore. do you still believe there s not a big peace objective when it comes to this administration? no, i don t think there will be a large peace initiative in syria. the situation that the president faces is that he threatened the leader of syria bashar assad not to use chemical weapons. said that that would cross a red line. assad didn t believe him. he used chemical weapons several months ago. and now he s used chemical weapons again. so president obama is taking what i think may be called the minimum necessary course of action here, which is to respond in a punitive way, and probably not in a large way, but rather to attack a set of targets associated with perhaps the launching of chemical weapons like missile launchers or airfields where chemical bombs can be launched. and so i don t think the president is engaged in what you might call diplomacy back by force, where he s trying to bring peace to the war in syria, try to end the conflict there, or indeed achieve what he said should be the objective, which is to get rid of bashar al assad. so this is the minimum course that i think the president could take, and that s why i ve regarded him as generally risk-averse. do you think it s a good idea taking the minimal amount of action or do you think he needs to do something more deliberate? well, if we don t want to see the kind of mass murder continue in syria that we ve seen over the last two years remember, we re well over 100,000 people have been slaughtered in that country, and we re about to take military action because the last thousand were slaughtered by chemical weapons. if this military operation is successful, and i hope and pray it will be, a certain number of targets will be taken out. a strong message will be sent to bashar assad not to use chemical weapons. i expect that he probably won t use chemical weapons again after this attack. but he will continue the slaughter of his own people. and will probably go from 100 to 120 and soon 150,000 people in this terrible civil war. so i think it s long past time for president obama to make the kind of tough decision that s necessary in a place this important to the world with this kind of mass slaughter going on. this is the worst, according to the united nations, the worst humanitarian disaster in the modern era, with millions of refugees and over 100,000 people now dead. all right. let s see what the president decides to do. jamie, i wish we had more time, but we ll be talking about this throughout the week as that window approaches. jamie rubin, thank you. ahead on the newsroom i remember very vividly telling my brother she s trouble. the sister of james dimaggio opens up saying hannah anderson is not so innocent and her brother is not a killer. and it s 50th anniversary of the march on washington. you re looking at live pictures out of washington. later in the show, we re going to talk to the president of the naacp. the average fast-food dinner is over $6.50 a meal. this delicious, easy to make kraft dinner from walmart is less than $3.10 a serving. replacing 1 fast food dinner a week, saves your family of 4 over $760 a year. save money. live better. walmart. could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. yep, everybody knows that. well, did you know some owls aren t that wise? 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[ dad ] jan? now is the time to rise from segregation. thousands of people are flocking to the national mall in washington to commemorate a pivotal point in the fight for civil rights. the march happened exactly 50 years ago today. wi the head of the naacp spoke to the crowd earlier today. ben jealous spoke about economic justice and referred specifically to a planned strike tomorrow by some minimum wage workers. let s listen. and so as we go home today, let us remember that the dreamer was also a doer. and as we turn on our tvs tomorrow and see people walking out of places where they re being forced to survive on $7.25 by the thousands, let us commit to join them in fighting to lift up the bottom, because as the top of that ladder has extended, the tethers at the bottom must be unleashed. ben jealous joins us from washington. good to see you, as always. tell us a little bit about the doing part of this. what needs to be done? in your estimation, what s most important moving forward tomorrow, starting with the planned strikes? well, you know, i stepped out here and i actually had a speech that i had composed and that was not the one that i gave. as i looked out this crowd of tens of thousands of people in the rain, bringing kids, many of them coming from not too far from here. many coming from across the river in the southeast, where the average family income is about $21,000. it occurred to me that doctor. king would be very unsettled by the fact that while we have a smaller percentage of people in poverty, we have a bigger number of people in poverty 50 years later. and when you see a worker only make $7.25 who really works at will in every way, who is risking everything to fight simply to get the minimum wage to where it should be. it should be $15 today. being less than half of that should be unacceptable to all of us. you wrote an op-ed in the wall street journal. you said doctor. king was likely to even have anticipated and we find ourselves refighting some of the old civil rights battled we thought we had won. what do you mean by that? well, look. all of us expected that the voting rights act, which had just been reauthorized six years ago with the support of 98 out of 100 u.s. senators would continue to persist at least for decades more. and that dr. king understood was the pillar of our civil rights protection, because your right to vote is the right upon which your ability to defend all of your other rights is leveraged and here we are fighting to restore section four of the voting rights act. and really the act itself. and i think you ll he would be surprised by that. i think doctor. king would also be surprised that our country, the land of the free, has become the world s largest incorrespondearcerated. i think he would also be disappointed that the minimum wage was such a focus of activism, that ear ra has been left to rust, if you will, over the years.ra has been left to rust, if you will, over the years. worth so little that a family could work a mom could work 60 hours and still need to go access public assistance because she is still far below the poverty line for the size of her family. so i m sure there is a lot of economic circumstances that dr. king would look at, as you mentioned before. what do you think he would make of barack obama, the first african-american president? first of all, i think he would be hugely proud. and really, frankly, take pride in everything he did to tear down those jericho walls so we could see a person of color become president. i think he ll be proud of what this president has done to get health care to millions of people, both a leading cause of premature death and a leading cause of bankruptcy. in many communities across this country. you ll be proud, by the way, that this president stood up for wall street excuse me, stood up for detroit and made sure that we saved the car manufacturers and all the jobs that went with it. i think he would also be questioning about why there aren t more people from wall street who have gone to jail at this time. but i think he would be very proud, and perhaps have some questions as well. ben jealous, thank you, as always. we appreciate it. ahead on newsroom, as the u.s. considers military intervention in syria, our security analysts with a lot of experience in troubled spots calls this the problem from hell for the united states. we ll be talking to peter bergen up ahead. with new phillips fiber good gummies. they re fruity delicious! just two gummies have 4 grams of fiber! to help support regularity! i want some. 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[ marge ] fiber the fun way, from phillips . crisis in syria has increasingly become a u.s. problem. it is a big problem. our national security analyst peter bergen summed up some of the issues in an op-ed on our website cnn.com. he writes here, i m quoting, whoever ultimately prevails in this fight is hardly going to be an ally of the u.s.. it s it is in short a problem from held. peter bergen is in our d.c. bureau. this clearly looks like it s going to be a big problem for the united states and the allies. we have heard from u.s. officials who said look, this is not about regime change here. we do not want a long-term investment. so what does the obama administration gain if it was a surgical strike against syria? well, the united states cannot let stand the large scale use of chemical weapons. i think that s just a fact. it is sort of in a quandary because they don t want to actually overthrow assad. it would look potentially even worse. the most effective groups on the worse are aligned with al qaeda and the others are aligned with iran, hezbollah, etc. but they do want to hand assad more than a slap on the wrist. so it s a matter of calibrating the response somewhere between regime change but also more than a slap on the wrist. peter, how is it not more than just symbolic here? you bring up a very good point here. if assad stays in power, you hit these different targets here. can t he just build up his arsenal again so he would hit his own civilians with chemical weapons once again if he still remains in power? i think the theory of the case is that given enough time, the other elements of the syrian opposition, which are now getting various kinds of help from the united states, may build up to the point where they can actually overthrow assad themselves. you know, which of course, is a gamble. right now, the moderate quote unquote elements of the syrian opposition are some of the least affected, which is why regime change is off the table here. would it be potentially more dangerous with regime change? i mean, let s say you did have the rebels, the syrian rebels, would there not be some sort of power vacuum, where you mentioned there is al qaeda, there are the radicals there that do not see peace as an option. the day after assad goes could be a situation where al qaeda aligned groups control good chunks of the country, and this is a country that neighbors israel in the middle of the middle east, is attracting thousands and thousands of foreign fighters, including a small number of americans and a small number of europeans. but this could look like afghanistan in the 1980s, except worse. that s a worst case scenario. but it s certainly a scenario that planners have to think about. and you talk about one of the options. you say that u.s. action against syria could actually look similar in some ways to what was done in kosovo. you had president clinton really jumping in two years or so after that conflict had erupted. how would that work? would it be beneficial? kosovo turned out to be 78 days of air campaign, so i don t think we ll see anything like that. kosovo was a nato operation. right now, the administration is looking around for what kind of international authorities it can have. with some nato buy-in, perhaps at least some arab league criticism of assad. it s not a particularly great group of authorizations that they re looking at right now. the u.n. security council, that s unlike tlly to yield anything because russia and china would veto any military operation. peter bergen, as you summed it up, a hellish situation is what you called it. we appreciate it. we re going to be getting your input as all of this unfolds. and also, fort hood, texas, comes down to this simple question. will nidal hasan, the man who gunned down so many of his army comrades, spend the rest of his life in prison or be put to death? that next. 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let freedom ring from every hill and molehill in mississippi! from every mountainside, let freedom ring. when we let freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of god s children, black men and white men, jews and gentiles, protestants and catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old negro spiritual, free at last! free at last! thank god almighty, we are free thank god almighty, we are free at last! captions by vitac www.vitac.com that famous i have a dream speech 50 years ago today on a wednesday, august 28th, 1963. and hearing that speech is almost like hearing it for the first time each time you hear it. i get goose bumps. and you can t help but become emotional. the mall in washington today is packed with people from all over the country. thousands of people who made this journey on the 50th anniversary of the march on washington. the national mall is filled. you can see the reflecting pool and the monument in the background. then over my shoulder, the lincoln memorial where we have been hearing performances all day which will culminate with the president of the united states. the first african-american president giving his speech on the anniversary. i am don lemon, everyone. we re going to hear from three presidents this afternoon. former president jimmy carter will speak. as well as former president bill clinton will speak here as well. then, of course, president barack obama. plus, civil rights icon, congress n congressman john lewis, the only surviving speaker from the 1963 march on washington will deliver his
tonight i ll and now cnn s inside man, we re back and going behind closed doors with the biggest ban since the beatles. and i mly cyrus and her twerking. we have fred plankton with the reporter in damascus and he s on the phone. fred, what s the late on the ground in damascus? is there a sense that a medical tear attack from the united states and the other u.n. countries could becoming in at any moment? reporter: certainly is. there certainly is one that the military attack could be coming very soon, pierce. i ve been in touch with the syrian officials and the country s information minister, what a powerful here and the syrian officials talking to you has just changed. two days ago i talked to them and they were very bold and warning the united states that they would strike back. they re still saying similar things but the tone has changed. now you re hearing things from weapons inspectors. they keep talking about the u.s. not having international mandate about the u.s. having to explain all of this to america and people around the world. you can just sense that there s a new nervousness here. it seems as though they re opening up and realizing the fact that it s not really a question of this any more it s a question of when. that s causing the talk at least among some the ones i ve been talking, if mood has changed considerably here on the ground, pierce. cnn has obtained this exclusive video from a direct hit from an alleged chemical weapons attack. i ll warn some of the viewers it s graphic and disturbing. tell us the latest mood, i guess that we ll pant to sense is what is president assad s reaction going to be likely to any strike that comes? that s a good question. probably doubtful that there will be any reaction at all but a lot will depend on what sort of military action is taken. if it s limited i doubt there would be any reaction at all. i was here in the city when the israeli struck a big weapons depot of the syrian military and a whole mountain was set on fire for several days and there was a lot of rhetoric but never really any sort of response, any military response. the syrian government knows well that the air force is no match for the us air force. they know well they don t have much in the way of air defense. a lot of a it is from the 1908s and it s difficult to stop the american planes. if the attack is limited, then i doubt there would be any sort of answer from the syrian government, pierce. and finally, fred, is there massive debate on the ground in damascus about what it was the forces that unleashed the chemical weapons attack or is it generally accepted that it was, indeed, from him and there s incontrovertible evidence to that affect. that debate has changed in the past couple of days as well and some of the video is one of the reasons. people here are seeing that there might be something more behind it than they thought. we re in the government-controlled part of damascus and people here are generally sympathetic to the government. most of the people on the ground, be the military or civilians were saying they simply could not imagine that the government would ever do such a thing as use chemical weapons. but as more and more of these videos surface people are starting to question things and wondering what exactly happened? and people are coming to we ve lost fred right at the end of his report there. we ll try to get him back a bit later. he s for cnn in damascus one of the few western reporters there. what will president obama do about syria and will the of the world back him. and fran townsend and a member of the dhs and cia advisory boards and nick christoff. general, what do you believe is the most likely military action president obama will take and how effective in your experience do you think it will be? my political judgment is that the administration will not do a lot. it s making a very narrow case that what we have here is not a large issue inside of syria but a small, specific issue of chemical weapons use which needs to be addressed. and i m concerned that what this president will do is a small limit add tack to, number one, punish bashar al assad and to demonstrate that chemical use will not go unanswered. however, i think it will be limited as a result and everybody in the region will take away a view that america is weaker because of this. adam schiff, if that is correct and it seems to be the perceived wisdom about what may be coming if it s not going to be thaesktive and it s not going to dismantle the assad regime, which is something most team have been calling for quite some time, what s the point of it other than making some kind of political statement? i think it will be effective if the object is to deter others around the world from feeling that this is now the new norm. that chemical weapons are another tool in the military toolbox. i think it can be very effective in accomplishing that objective. the president doesn t want to own this war. and neither do the american people want to own this war. we have to be very careful not to commit to things that we aren t ready to engage in the sense of getting fully involved in a civil war in, yet, another car by narrowly defining the mission i think we can achieve the objective and deter the regime from once again, resorting to this brutal and terrible weapon but it has to be a very narrowly defined mission. so we don t get entangled in this civil war. and nick, one of the problems the administration faces is the sort of fallout that continues from iraq where the american people and the british people, for that matter, were assured that saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction. it turned out they never existed. once again, the people of america and britain and other countries are being told by their leaders this man assad, has used chemical weapons but they can t produce incontrovertible public evidence to that effect it won t have much support for the public. how dang vows that for president obama and indeed, other world leaders. i think the main reason president obama is not more decisive is that the public has. ti appetite for some broader help jury. he has resisted for that reason. and i think as you say, that the problem is that we overreabouted in afghanistan. we overreacted in iraq. and that has led to a paralysis in the case of syria. but at the end of the day, our approach in syria, simply, has not worked. the things we tried to prevent like the spread of the war to surrounding countries, like the growing civilian slaughter, the steady escalation of the conflicts and the radicalization of the rebels, they have happened anyway. fran, let s talk about president assad for a moment. everyone has been talking very loudly about the need for him to go for well over a year now. now we re at the critical point of military action and that rhetoric has been reigned back. now not a regime change it s a retaliatory strike perhaps, concentrated on the chem weapons aspect of what he s done. this can is all the a bit of a mess in terms of how you settle this to an already-skeptical public. is he bad and if he is, why are we are not trying to sierk to change his regime? that s right, pierce. i training inially don t understand why the administration would signal that we re not looking to change the balance of power. we re only seeking to address the issue of chemical weapons. these limited targeted strikes, the cruise missile strikes in and of themselves we quantity expect to be deterrent. that did not deter bin laden or the taliban and we saw them launch the 9/11 strikes from afghanistan where those missiles had been. so missiles in reason of themselves, once out, is not an effective strategy. there have to be strategic objectives that this aids but this alone will not be effective. i don t understand why you would signal that before you even start it. absolutely. may i respond to that quickly? yes, you can, go ahead. i think there s there s a reason why the president and the administration is being very specific about this. we don t want to give the syrian people the impression that we re the kaf calvary riding in and they should rise up against assad and risk what we saw happen in iraq several years ago when the iraqis had the impression were going to risk it. we don t want to risk even further slaughter of the people so the president needs to be clear not only with the american people about the limited scope of this potential military action but clear it with the syrian people so they don t expect too much so we don t get ourselves drawn in and essentially own this conflict. but general, again, from a military perspective, the rebels will clearly see any intervention by the americans, british, french and others as a plus for them because it s a strike against the assad regime. so effectively welcome the international community will be taking sides, won t it? no other way of describes what will happen? look, the international community has already taken sides. as soon as we said assad must go, everybody had taken sides. but a limited strike as described by congressman schiff will only result in an emboldened iran who is convinced they re winning inside of syria because this is the best and worse that america is willing to do. it will embolden assad to stay in power and convince our allies in the region we re an unreliable ally and america is not serious about standing up to its commitments and its responsibility into the region. i m not so sure about that. can i pipe in? yes, you can. i think realistically, these very little chance politically of a sustained kosovo type of operation. i don t see that as a realistic possibility. will a short operation of a day or two or three make a difference? you know, i think the general is right there are real risks. but on the other hand, president assad has truly has kind of tested the international community. if you watch what he s done over the last couple of years he started off by arresting protesters and then he opened fire on protests. and then he began sending rockets and mortars and finally bombing rebel areas and finally bombing civilian areas and now the graerch wal use and introduction of chemical weapons. it seems to me this is somebody what s a rational actor and he wants to protect his toys and i think there s a possibility that he can be deterred. i m not sure of it but i think the present policy has failed. pierce with i think we have to acknowledge we don t know how assad will act to limited cruise missile strikes and what he may do and you can t take them out with a single strike, he maier decide he s going to eyes them or lose them. he may use what s left of the chemical weapons against the population. so there are real risks, both to the deterrent strategy to not having strategic objectives. this is not without peril. i ll leave it there, thank you very much general and congressman democratic congressman, adam schiff and fran. we ll talk again regularly about this over the next few weeks. an update on a story i brought you last night. a sad update. the arizona teenager on sellsed with the 2007 movie into the wild and he vanished about a week ago and sadly his body was found near his dmar the rural area of the state last night and police are investigating hills death as a suicide. his father told cnn jonathan made everyone feel like he was okay but he was hurting inside and our deepest condolences go stwards the family. coming up, unanswered questions about the did napping of hannah anderson. and i ll talk to them for the first title live since her brother s death. that s coming naex. when me and my mom weren t getting along very well, me and him would talk about how to deal with it, and i would tell him how i felt about it, and he would help me through with it. they weren t anything bad. hanna anderson talking about james dimaggio in the wake of hanna s kidnapping and the murders of her mother and brother. investigators are struggling to piece together? those answers may have died with dimaggio but the person closest to dimaggio speaks out, his sister laura joining me. obviously, a very difficult time for you and your family and everyone connected with this. have you got any answers to the questions, i m sure you ve been asking yourself about what your brother is alleged to have done? what specifically answer? specific questions would you be referring to? do you know why he did it? how do you know that he did it would be my question for you. there is no evidence. the only evidence that has come forward at this point is the fact that these two bodies were found on his property. i think there is a lot of holes in the case. there is a lot of missing information. i have yet to see any solid evidence. what do you think happened? in my heart of hearts, i think that hanna perhaps got herself into a situation that she couldn t get herself out of, and i do believe that my brother gave his life to protect her. do you really believe that, laura? i do. i mean, all the evidence points to him having left a booby trapped property that set fire and killed hanna s mother and her little brother. he then took hanna, we know undisputedly on this long road trip, anywhere longer than he had been before. why would he do this if he was a completely innocent man? let s start with the first thing that you went over, the booby trapping of the house. i have known my brother for years. he had trouble setting his water thermostat on his hot tub. my brother was one of the kindest people you ve ever met in your life. he worked diligently to save animals. he was not only a father figure and an uncle to the anderson children, he was to many other people, as well. the kind of the man that i know him to be, it s it doesn t add up. it doesn t make sense and for me, i need facts and i need evidence, real facts. obviously, the police are making it pretty clear that they believe he did set fire to the house. right. that he did commit a double-murder. uh-huh. and that he kidnapped hanna and took her away and he was in a shootout then with police, which that part of it certainly is indisputable, he was. uh-huh. many people watch this is it indisputable, is it really? that he was in a shootout with police? you don t believe that, either? i know one thing for sure. i was in touch with the fbi and u.s. marshals and san diego pd that entire week. they know that my brother and i were best friends, and we were all that, you know, we had left in our immediate family. they know that they could have flown me to idaho in a moment s notice. i could have been there in three hours and i could have talked to him, give me a mega phone and i would have talked to him straight out of there and he could have come home and had a trial as he deserves as anyone this in this country deserves what was he doing there? in idaho? yeah, why was he with this young just turned 16 girl? i mean, that s not a man of his age should be doing? fair enough. have you said that to yourself? i know that he thought of hanna as a daughter. i know that the wilderness up there, it is some of the most beautiful terrain that you ll ever see in the world, and that s one of the things that my brother and i enjoyed doing together, doing separately. you ve heard andrew talk about they went to yosemite. that s what we enjoyed doing. you were very close to james? yes. how close? he was my best friend. he was my brother. he was my father. he was everything to me. he was the person that i called if i had a question about life, love, career, anything. he was my first person that i called. he was my best friend. is part of your reaction to this, do you think, a sense of denial? i got to put that to you that you just don t want to believe that your brother could be capable of such a monstrous act as the police believe? we re coming back to still seeing no evidence, no the sheriffs the san diego sheriffs have basically said that the case is closed. the police report said he tortured christina and ethan, hanna s mother and brother and set fire to the house and burned them and kidnapped hanna and took her away. these are things the police have made clear from their point of view happened. well, where is the evidence? if it wasn t him, who was it? i don t know. that s what i want to find out. he s the guy who took hanna to the middle of nowhere. what other explanation do you have? do you believe everything a 16-year-old tells you? we think she s just lying? i m not going to speak to that. you know hanna anderson, you know the family well. i do. do you believe there is a reason why she wouldn t be telling the truth? do you think i know the hanna anderson that i saw a few nights ago on the tv is certainly not the girl that stayed in my home three weeks prior to them disappearing. what do you mean? do what do you mean? i remember very vividly telling my brother, she s trouble. she s going i said, you need to watch out for that one, she s trouble. she was you know, came into my home, was very gracious. didn t say thank you once. she had on extremely heavy eye makeup, just wasn t wasn t the just didn t strike me as a i don t know. i don t want to bash anyone. it certainly not my intent. so if you believe she was troubled, then it may well be that your brother became infatuated with her i know she i know that, you know, jim did express at that time that he was she stated that she was very upset with her mother. she blamed her mother for her father moving to tennessee. it was, you know, didn t didn t appear to me it did concern me at the time. i mean, look, there will be people watching this saying come on, laura, you ve got to face facts. uh-huh. we understand that you re his only surviving sibling. we ll get in after the break after very troubled upbringing you had and close relationship. right. but in the end if it s the police saying all this stuff, and they are absolutely convinced that there is no doubt that your brother was a double-murderer and torturer and kidnapper, it may be that you have to face the reality that he just flipped, that he became obsessed with hanna. right. that he planned this road trip with her. right. that he cracked up, that he set fire to this house and that he disposed of the two people, whatever it may be, that he just became somebody that you wouldn t recognize as your brother. well, i think we re getting ahead of ourselves. when they can show me evidence, than i will deal with it at that time. let s take a short break. we ll come back and have more of this because i wasn t expecting you to say some of this stuff, and i want to go over it in more detail with you. okay. g. and now there are endless ways to love it. from crispy to spicy to savory. 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no, i think that in many ways they are very different situations. my father was on drugs and my father was a drug addict for years. my entire life that i knew him, he was on drugs. as soon as after he left the military, and we re not just talking about, you know, marijuana or something like that. he was, you know, on some very heavy drugs. my brother was not a meth addict, so i think you re talking about two totally different situations, although i did understand and can see the similarities. you had situation. you had a pact with your brother after your parents died that you would never leave the other one alone. right. tell me about that. no smoking and take care of yourself, watch out for yourself, don t do anything stupid. we agreed that we would stick around for each other for a really, really, really long time, as long as we possibly could until we were old and gray and that we would never leave each other alone. we had already lost so much. you must feel very alone now. i miss him very much. very much. he was the center of my world. did he ever, lora, give any sense to you of being very damaged by what had happened in his upbringing that could possibly explain what happened? and i don t want to prejudge, you re right the police investigation will have to conclude and everything else, all the evidence at the moment points towards him being guilty of heinous crimes, ones that you just can t believe your brother is capable of, but was there anything in his behavioral pattern over the years where you thought potentially one day he could crack up? you know, the only thing that i could say to that is that jim was very quiet. he never spoke about our childhood, whereas i was opposite. on every anniversary or birthday, jim, mom would have been whatever age today what not and he would say lora, you know, stop living in the past, stop living in the past. he was very quiet about everything, never spoke about it on his birthday he would pretty much turn off his cell phone and kind of, you know, go work on the property or something like that. he was always just very quiet. i don t know that he ever grieved of dealt with anything we went through as children or in his teenage years. you know could it all have just been building up, building up? i mean is it a possibility? anything is a possibility did absolutely. anything is a possibility. that he may have just completely flipped. it s certainly a possibility, but it s very hard to believe that someone who was just so genuine and so dependable every single solitary day just woke up one day and decided, you know, i m going to do this. it s very difficult to believe. you know, i also want to say that i m not in any way excusing, you know, i m not saying that he didn t have any part in it, but what i would like to know is i would like to have factual evidence of what exactly his part in it was, and, you know, when i have that evidence, i ll go from there. you were pretty critical of hanna anderson, a lot of people on twitter and if you want to give me a view of this tweet me at piers morgan but a lot of people acting angrily to that saying you can t attack a young kid, a 16-year-old girl that s been kidnapped by your brother who is a man nearly three times her age, regardless of anything else, you can t go after a young kid like that. what is your reaction? they have a right to their own opinion, and i have a right to mine. you it s sad that you were trying to get dna evidence to explore a theory that james had had a relationship with hanna s mother and that he may even be the father of hanna or indeed ethan or both. is that true, and if so, why did you do that? to this day i have not asked the andersons, you can ask the anderson family, i have not asked the andersons for any dna. do you intend to? we ll see when the time comes. james left all his money not to you, as he originally planned to but to the maternal grandmother of hanna. correct. was that a surprise to you? no, it was not. his argument, apparently is that he believed she was best place to take care of the kids should something happen to their parents. i mean, correct. you know, i remember speaking to him about it. it was never my children don t need it. i don t need it. and i want nothing more than you know, i have so much respect and love and deep, deep, deep respect in my heart for my brother that i want nothing more than for his wishes to be honored. i ve heard people say that, you know, i m upset about that, that he left them $100,000. it s really you spoke could not be further from the truth. you ve spoken to brett i called and let him know. absolutely. how that was conversation? it was very nice. i ve been you know, brett was my brother s best friend. in a sense, they were like brothers. my brother, you know, took on his family as his own and bernice was, you know, very much so a maternal role you know, role model in his life, and she helped him out did brett believe that james had done all this? did he tell you that? i think he was a little surprised, but, you know, i had just called him because i wanted to let him know that this was in place for him, not to worry. you know, he certainly has enough to worry about, and my deepest, deepest, you know, condolences. my heart just breaks for brett, really, it does. well, it s an awful situation for everybody involved. it is. i appreciate you coming on, lora. i know it s difficult for you and you didn t want to do this. you re perfectly entitled to have your opinion. it was your brother. i hope you find peace from this. thank you. we got a statement from the family, from the anderson family. no one in the anderson family or associated with the anderson family has received a request for dna from andrew or lora and they did not meet mr. dimaggio until the sixth month of tina s pregnancy with hanna and brett anderson s dna was used to identify the body of his dead son ethan anderson. this is a difficult time for both families and we wish her privacy and peace . tackled the fast food industry and guns wnds medical marijuana. the new blockbuster. not a surprise. a bit of miley twerking. dad. how did you get here? 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[ female announcer ] to nurses everywhere, thank you, from johnson & johnson. breaking news tonight out of fairfield, california, where firefighters are battling a raging fire that s destroyed several buildings. and the rim fire continues to scorch yosemite park. officials say it s the seventh largest fire in california history. gary tuchman is live for us in groveland, california, with the latest on the rim fire. gary, bring me up to speed with how this fire is doing. reporter: since this fire started ten days ago, it s continued to grow. it s now the largest fire in california ever in recorded history. 287 square miles have been burned, the equivalent almost twice the size of las vegas, nevada. nobody has been killed, that s very important. it s an amazing fact, considering how big this fire is. in addition, there have been no serious injuries. the latest numbers we have, 31 homes destroyed. we re standing outside of yosemite national park. 6% of the park has been singed by fire. it s not the part of the park where tourists go. they re hoping to keep the fire away from the park where the tourists go. piers? gary tuchman, thank you very much. i want to bring back cnn s inside man, morgan spurlock. i want to play a little clip from this movie. as soon as someone tries to tell us what to do. it s like having five rowdies in class at school. thank you. enough of you. come on, now. they look each more handsome on your tv show, i ve got to tell you. they re taking america and the world by storm. they re getting the kind of crowds we haven t seen since the beatles. i m surprised as to why you made the movie. you like metallica, music like that. you ve done gritty documentaries. now you re doing a pop movie, albeit a very good one. why did you do this? to have the chance to make like a documentary blockbuster. a film that would appeal to a major audience. who wouldn t want to make a film without a band who are at this core of their career. as we re about to go into a room with them and see them explode. that s the road and journey we went on. to capture that with cameras is a rare opportunity. it s a terrific movie. i haven t seen it yet, but everyone who i know who has seen it says it s brilliant. let s turn quickly to syria, because you ve made movies about this region. you ve traveled around this region. what do you make of what s happening here? the biggest thing for me is you want to make sure all the information you re getting is accurate. that before we act we get real people on the ground who are verifying and justifying everything we re hearing. you ve got to get u.n. security inspectors in there. it is such a pressure cooker. when you travel around the world, there s already judgments about the united states. the last thing you need to do is make a mistake and make the wrong decision. i said earlier to the panel, one of the problems, and you ll know this from having traveled that region, there s so much distrust after what happened in iraq, that when governments say this bad guy has bad weapons and it turns out he hasn t, then trust goes, doesn t it? and it goes immediately. all it takes is one little thing like this to ruin it. we just can t afford that right now. morgan, i ve only you ve only been working at cnn for about a month, but you can come back any time. you re a man of all trades. whenever you need me, i can twerk whenever you like. i like the idea of two morgans going at it. good to talk to you. thanks, piers. we ll be right back. good evening everyone. tonight with washington talking war, we ll talk about what military action against syria would actually mean to american interests, american lives and millions of syrians living and dying under a dictator. and part two of america s worst charity when it comes to how much money they raise for dying children, and how little they actually spend on them. we re keeping them honest. the people that say not vaccinating their children is a matter of faith, putting everyone at risk of childhood diseases that we sometimes forget can kill. dr. sanjay gupta weighs in. we begin with syria. the drums of war growing louder but tough questions what kind of military action it might be. defense secretary hagel says american forces are in his wor
he said strikes now will be too little too late and the tragic toll of chemical weapons. dr. sanjay gupta, and the interview many are talking about. what james dimaggio s sister told me about hanna anderson. the hanna anderson that i saw a few nights ago on tv is certainly not the girl that stayed in my home three weeks prior to them disappearing. tonight, i ll talk to drew about what he thinks of her shocking claims. i want to begin with the big story tonight. a report from jim acosta. briefed congressional leaders and key committee members this evening because the briefing was on a non-secure conference call, the information was unclassified. the lawmakers are saying administration said there is no doubt officials were responsible for last week s chemical weapons attack. one lawmaker told cnn they were told about intercepted communications from a high level syrian official, which clearly indicates they were responsible for these weapons, and the briefing did touch on the vote in british parliament today against a strike on syria in response to that vote in britain. a senior u.s. official tells cnn it may be necessary now for president obama to take unilateral action against syria. that official telling cnn we care what they think. we value the process, but we re going to make the decision that we need to make. that comment echoes what a white house spokesman said earlier today before the vote in britain. part of my answer that s important for you and your viewers to understand, the president of the united states is elected with the duty to protect the national security interest of the united states of america and the decision he makes about the decisions that he makes about our foreign policy is with our national security interest front and center. now, the white house national security staff put out a statement this evening saying the president will continue to consult with u.s. allies but there is no mention the u.s. will go along with international partners. the next step comes when administration releases it s intelligence report on the chemical weapons attack to the public. the white house has hinted the president may make another statement on syria and presumably a window for action opens up this weekend when u.n. inspectors are scheduled to leave syria, but the u.s. appears to be ready to move before any further action at the ump u.n. they want to send a signal not just to syria but the world about the use of chemical weapons, piers. thanks very much, indeed. joining me now is senator john mccain. senator, thank you for joining me. why are you so credit kill of the president s actions so far in reaction to syria? well, first of all, we have watched syria evolve into one of the great humanitarian tragedies in recent history. there is 100,000 dead, a million now, children, refugees, it s the conflict has spread to jordan, to lebanon, iraq is now in chaos and resurrected al qaeda base, 5,000 hasballah are fighting. daily flights of weapons flying in and russian aircraft into damascus in an unfair fight and numerous instances of the use of chemical weapons, the latest being the largest. i want to play you a clip from the british prime minister david cameron today in the uk. listen to what he said. i am deeply mindful of the lessons of previous conflicts and in particular the deep concerns in the country caused by what went wrong with the iraq conflict in 2003 but this is not like iraq. it is not about taking sides in the syrian conflict. it is not about invading. it is not about regime change or even working more closely with the opposition. it is about the large scale use of chemical weapons and our response to a war crime, nothing else. now the reason david cameron got so much pressure in britain is because of what happened in iraq where the british people felt misled by tony blare and his government and supposed weapons of mass destruction. one of the biggest problems president obama s administration faces is the dis trust from american people on intelligence that says assad has used chemical weapons. how do you get around that? first of all, i think it s understandable americans are skeptical and scenical and that s why the actions we should have been taking and should be taking have to be explained to the american people and consequences of wide-spread regional conflict in the middle east. i can remember the debate over dessert storm, cow sew voe and did what we needed to do to stop gin side. american people need to be explained why it s necessary for us not to have a single american boot on the ground, which is critical to them, but why we need to give them the weapons they need. we need to neutralize the air of bizarre al ashar al-assad, whic way is flying in weapons. we need a safe zone. none of it requires american participation. the united states has not given a single gun weapon to the free syrian army. they only gave them mres about to expire. plane loads every day are flying into the airport in damascus with tanks and air and every kind of a weapon you can imagine. it s an unfair fight, piers. part of the problem, i think, president obama faces is he set his criteria having said repeatedly he thinks assad should go and look, the red line for me is the use of chemical weapons and now he says he as to act to chemical weapons usage even though there isn t the public evidence that assad directly ordered it, even though many suspect he has but having got to his own red line, he now has to do something. many people say that put him into a difficult position in terms of leadership. i think it s put him into a very difficult and contradictory position because this wasn t the first time that bashar al-assad crossed the red line. there are some allegations it was as many as 30 times, absolutely as many as ten and there is no doubt this is chemical weapons. come on. does anybody really believe that those aren t chemical weapons, those bodies of those children stacked up? and so that is just a fa sod and the other rational is that they may be over taken by. they are no more extremist than you and i are. they are fighting for freedom, and we should be helping them obtain the goal of freeing themselves from one of the most brutal dictators in history. 100,000 people killed, a million children let me just mention one thing. i was in jordan in a ref gee camp. a woman was taking me around who was a schoolteacher. she said to me, all these children, she said see these children senator mccain? i said yes, i do. they will take revenge on those people who refuse to help them. there is no policy, no stroateg and until we get one, you ll see this kind of confusion and to announce that any action we take would not be regime change to me is incomprehensible. but would you, if you were president, ignore the u.n., ignore international corporation and just do it? would you ignore the stacks of dead bodies without a mark on them? would you ignore that it s already been established that as many as ten times at least and as many as 30 where chemical weapons have already been used? there is no doubt about that. is there any doubt can you be 100% sure absolutely. no, no [ overlapping speakers ] of course, i can. here is why i can because we know he s already used them, so why wouldn t he use them again? only in larger quantities. i am more playing devil s advocate sure. than disagreeing with you personally let me toss let me ask you this question yeah. i want to ask you one question. go ahead. how can you be 100% sure on the evidence that we ve seen that it wasn t a rogue element of the rebels deliberately letting off chemical weapons to lure americans into a trap? that s an argument some people are putting forward. pigs fly. some people put that forward. the rebels don t have those weapons. they don t have the chemical weapons. so how could and there is ample evidence that is going to be forthcoming. but the difference between this, here is the bodies stocked up, okay, and the ample evidence. in iraq, there was no there was no evidence of concrete evidence of weapons of mass destruction when our secretary of state went to the united nations security counsel and told the world there was. this is vastly different situation than iraq. and look, if they want to wait three or four days and get the u.n. absolute augthentic case ad bodies of children stacked up are nothing but the victim of chemical weapons and it has to be done by bizarre assad. there is no other logic. finally, senator, you re obviously going further than many saying look, it s not just about targeting a few military bases or whatever in retaliation for chemical weapons, you would like to see america take a forceful roll in aiding the rebels to over throw assad. is that the position you take? i ve only taken it for two years. it s very well-known and the situation has deteruated and the numbers and the tragedies that i just described to you have taken place. it started out as a demonstrations and then to what was clearly an advantage on the side of the free syrian army until we had to have thousands of hasballah, the weapons coming in from iraq, the iranian revolutionary guard on the ground and this turned into a region conflict and proxy war to some degree. senator mccain, it s always good to talk to you. thank you very much indeed for joining the show tonight. thank you, my friend. i imp size again, no american boots on the ground nor any american aircraft in danger. we can do it. thanks. senator. thank you, as always. i want to bring in president obama s former national security advice sore. general jones. you obviously heard senator mccain forthright and to be fair he s been saying the same thing for a couple years now. what is your reaction? well, i think that we do have a situation that calls for some very, very serious consideration for our options. we know that weapons of mass destruction have been used and in this case chemical weapons. we know that we re pretty sure that you can tie it directly to the assad regime. we know our president has take an very declarative position, and i think a proper one to say this is unacceptable and we re considering the range of options we have to respond to that. so on the one hand, if you do decide to take military action in response, you have to consider the range of consequences of that action. some people will talk about mission creep. some people will talk about a retaliation on the part of perhaps the assad regime against israel. we have let me ask you general, let me ask you general, if president assad as many believe unleashed chemical weapons against the syrian people and the rebels over throwing him. if america enter seeds now in any way, it will be seen clearly as aiding the rebels against assad, therefore taking a position in a civil war and many people in america say look, we ve been down this road before in iraq, afghanistan, libya, almost everywhere. is it america s place anywhere in the modern world now to be getting involved in other country s civil wars? well, i think it s america s place to show leadership in resolving some very, very difficult and dangerous situations, and you do that in a number of ways and one is, i think, by consulting with friends and allies by letting the united nations efforts run their course, by talking to the north atlantic treaty organization, listening to the arab league. on this level, as senator mccain pointed out, this is really an aggravated situation where assad, presumably assad unleashed one of the four weapons that are untouchable in terms of acceptable on use, and that s nuclear chemical, biological and raid logical weapons. so you have people watching in the region. you have friends and foes alike. the strategic consequences of sending the wrong message to assad and iran would be certainly part of the envelope here. so i think you have to ask yourself, what are the consequences of taking action, but maybe the more important question is what are the consequences if you take no action? and if you take no action, you re inviting more of the same, and you re sending them precisely the wrong message to our other antagonists in the region building a nuclear capacity and that s iran. i think there is a range of options we should consider in audition to a military strike that would include perhaps considering taking a chunk of syrian territory north and maybe the south to establish the kind of provide comfort to scenario where we would also aid this humanitari humanitarian. this is military doable. ideally it would be done by a coalition of perhaps nato, but this is something that i think would send a strong message, not only to assad that there are consequences for these actions and part of the consequences are that you ll lose a piece of your land and we ll conduct humanitarian operations for refugees out of your territory. so the strategic the tactical response of a military strike is one thing. the tactical response can have strategic consequences and i m sure that s what everybody is thinking about now. general jones, thank you very much indeed. you re welcome. with a strike in syria, a mixed message, both sides of that question when we come back. nascar is about excitement. but tracking all the action and hearing everything from our marketing partners, the media and millions of fans on social media can be a challenge. that s why we partnered with hp to build the new nascar fan and media engagement center. hp s technology helps us turn millions of tweets, posts and stories into real-time business insights that help nascar win with our fans. so the strategic the tactical mixed message, both sides of their control over chemical weapons may erode, where they are alied to known terrorist organizations that in the past targeted the united states. then there is a prospect, a possibility in which chemical weapons that can have devastating effects could be directed at us. president obama talking to the pbs news hour and suggesting any chemical weapons in syria might be turned against this country. is that a real possibility? joining me is george w. bush s security advisor and the former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. and book author. welcome to both of you. bill richardson, how damaging is it potentially to president obama and his plans for military action in syria that the british government and british prime minister david cameron suffered a defeat in parliament with a clear will from the british people and many members of parliament not to take military action in syria? i think the president has to be very careful, and he is being careful. only 25% of the american people support military action in syria. secondly, we have to avoid the iraq war where there are no weapons of mass destruction so you have to have proof. thirdly, the president has to get a broad international coalition, other wise he hands a propaganda victory and assad can say very few countries support the united states with a strike. so i think he has to be deliberate on the military side that the strikes work to our advantage and to find ways to arm the rebels and destroy the command and control centers but at the u.n., too, i think even though the russians would veto the military action, we can try to get for instance a ban on arm shipments that bring in chemical weapons. we could try to send assad to the international court. i think the president is pursuing a delicate deliberate path saying that we probably are going to use these military air strikes, but he s got to take all these fact tomorrows into consideration. the worst thing we can do is go in without a plan, without a strategy, without an effort to really detour assad and his continuation of these war crimes. general hayden, the problem is, nobody is quite sure what the plan is, and president obama hasn t committed to what the plan may be and that plan may have to dramatically change if british forces will not be involved and that sets a bandwagon running around, say, the french and other international forces to say, look, we can t take part in this. would america consider unilateral military action and how risky is that to america s interest interest? president obama made this for the jiets aunited states and fo himself, frankly a year ago. i can t conceive he would back down from a very serious course of action in which these actions have serious consequences. with regard to the capacity to conduct the attack, it would be good politically to have other nations join us but in terms of raw military power, the united states has sufficient strength to do that. that is true robin wright but is it sensible for the americans to act unilaterally in this case because i imagine president obama didn t expect the british not to join him. that will be the case. where does this leave him po politically and what do you think is the sensible course of action? hope that france, britain, turkey and maybe some arab countries would be willing to go along with the united states in terms of what it does both military and in backing it to give it credibility and the fact that the british who have been allies of the united states for so long and so many of our military operations may not be part of it. this is not over. the u.n. weapons inspectors are there until saturday in damascus taking a look at what happened. they will bring out samples, intelligence and this may give a new body of evidence that will allow the british government to go back to parliament and try once more to get using milder language but some kind of vote of support, and that will be cred critical of the administration bizarre al ashar al-assad, will make him feel better because this will be unpopular in the arab world and he ll think that this shows that he s cracked not it may not only crack the sent the in the arab world but also in the western world. this is one of the problems, isn t it? again, i come back to what this mission is. i think president obama has to be extremely clear what evidence he s acting on and what action he intends to take because this is a president who said assad has to go. he s saying it s not about regime change, which is confusing in itself. do you just target military bases? how effective would that be if it s a riddle wrap on the knuckles? it might have the complete opposite effect. well, this is why you have to have the military air strikes have a specific purpose. i think this is what the administration is trying to do, destroy the command and control centers, find ways that weapons can get to the rebels successfully. ensure, for instance, that these military sites that contain some of the chemical weapons are destroyed. so that has to happen but i think at the same time, the president has to be conscious, also, we haven t mentioned congress. there have been to be consultations with the congress with the house and senate. the house and senate are probably not coming back from their recess for another ten days. so the shift here, the use of military air strikes building an international coalition, the objective is to shift the military momentum away from assad who has the military momentum now but to say that assad is in good shape now with the international condemnations, with the arab league taking a strong position against him, with the saudi s, france is strong. what is key is yes, the weapons inspect tomorrows from the u.n. find samples, that they interview witnesses and say evidence is happening to show there has been use of this violation of international norm. this is app war crime. you can take military action based on a war crime and i believe this is what will happen. the president has to be deliberate. he has a lot of challenges and pressure on him, but i think you want to get your ducks in a row, and those ducks aren t in a row yet. general hayden, just quickly, if you don t mind, urging that america get involved in aiding and abetting the rebels to over throw assad, how dangerous would that be? it s dangerous and respond appropriately to what assad has done with chemical weapons. with regard to the larger task, piers, my rule of thumb here on this one right now is go big or go home. this can t be done by just putting our thumb on the scale and hoping for the best. if you want to do what the senator is recommending, it would require a major effort and sustained effort on the part of the united states. robin wright, again, briefly, if you don t mind, if you were president obama, what do you do and how soon do you do it? well, this is the problem, i mean, he s going to the g 20 group of industrialized nations leaving tuesday night and so, clearly, he s trying to either act before this happens, sunday, monday, perhaps after the u.n. and weapons inspectors come out or another vote in parliament or wait until after he gets back and consultations. i think policy is faced real setbacks over the last 24 hours. bill, final word. piers, what i would say is critical is the president face-to-face with president putin. if he can convince putin to at least be flexible on a u.n. resolution with force or arm shipments, that has to be key and that chemistry between the two needs to be improved. that relationship at the g 20, a side bar discussion that would be frank and tough i think is essential here. governor richardson, general hayden and ms. wright, thank you very much indeed. 1,300 people were killed in last week s cheap kimical attac. dr. sanjay gupta tells me why those weapons are so deadly. [ tires screech ] [ beeping ] [ male announcer ] we don t just certify our pre-owned vehicles. we inspect, analyze and recondition each one, until it s nothing short of a genuine certified pre-owned. mercedes-benz for the next new owner. hurry in to your authorized mercedes-benz dealer for 1.99% financing during our certified pre-owned sales event through september 3rd. the syrian regime has been condemned but president obama but graphic disturbing images like these that you may find hard to watch of children dying. what exactly is the use of chemical weapons so chilling? joining me with the facts is chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. let s talk about chemical weapons. what are chemical weapons? what makes them so disaster rous? why do we fear them so much? chemical weapons, there is so many different types but in this case you re right we re talking about something particularly chilling, neuro toxic agents and siren, the most toxic is what they suspect it is. they can test for it easily, piers. they have been talking about the inspections going on. you can test for it in the patients but the surroundings and it stays in the soil for a long time. just a fraction of an ounce of this stuff, piers, on your skin could be fatal and absorbed across the skin and on the lungs and across the eyes. it s grbad stuff. does it look like a seron attack or similar? it s tough to sometimes make conclusions from the video evidence alone, but hearing doctors descriptions of this in some camps and the doctors over the borders. think of it as turning all the machinery in the body on. all the various, your nose, mouth, lungs, everything gets turned on and see the frothing of the mouth with fluid coming out of the lungs but throws the body into a state of convulses and people can have seizures which can be witnessed but the diaphragm, which allows someone to breathe. it it essentially starts to seize up. it s tasteless, odorless, you can t see it. you don t know until you get sick and it starts quickly and can degrade quickly, as well. and that, of course, is what makes it so much more dangerous than conventional warwarfare, y have warning, hear it, smell it. with this kind of attack, no warning, it s completely out of nowhere, right? exactly right. i remember covering conflicts in the past where it was unclear, was there a concern about chemical weapons. you essentially, if you re worried, you protect yourself head to toe and wear certain masks. i brought a mask to show you. this is what a military grade mask would look like there is a respirator built into it and designed not only to inhibit what could be coming through into the lungs but also absorgs across the skin on the face. so, yes, absolutely and it s one of these things i think having again, been out there in these war zones, people worry about the most because of that just comes out of nowhere. and sanjay, we seen really chilling video of syrians making home made gas masks trying to protect themselves in case of further attacks. they are making them out of plastic containers, styrofoam, are any of these likely to be effective? are they sensible to try and do what they are doing? no, and you know, piers, it s sad to watch that because i mean, people think they may think they are protecting themself in someway and it s sad because maybe that s the only thing that they have. they don t have access to the type of mask that i was showing you just now and not only does that not work, it probably is worse than nothing at all because it s difficult to breathe, it may offer a sense of false protection, you know, so they just don t work. and keep in mind, again, you talk about seron here, is something they can verify, whether it s been used. that can get into your body in all sorts of different ways. what you saw there doesn t do anything. and the reason this is all so important is there is two polls, support for u.s. action is it in the national interest, june 28th, july 28th. yes 27 percent, no 61%. this is a poll. in a cnn poll in may with proof of chemical weapons, would u.s. action be justified. 66% yes, 31% no. so it s supported if it s proven. look, people talk about the line being crossed. you heard that language being used by lots of different people. the line here is the use of a weapon that is so indiscreme end and kills people within a short amount of time. look, by estimates 100,000 people killed by bombs and bullets in syria and those people people, their families have every reason to be outraged but this does seem to cross a particular line, and just as those images again you re showing, piers, so indiscriminate and grew zoom. they don t have a chance. thank you very much indeed. you got it, thank you. when we come back, i want to talk about the hanna anderson case. dr. drew pinsky breaks down some of the shocking things lora dimaggio, the sister of the man that abducted hanna told me about her brother. all year long. and now there are endless ways to love it. from crispy to spicy to savory. 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[off screen] bye, guys. bye. see ya. oh my god! every day, more people connect face to face on the iphone than any other phone. i miss you. car sales events.ng, and that means. and now there s a new way to buy: truecar. at truecar.com we ll show you. what others paid for the car you want, so you ll know if that sales price. is a great price. save time, save money, and never overpay. visit truecar.com i remember very vividly telling my brother, she s she s trouble. she s going to she s i said you need to watch out for that one. she s trouble. calling hanna anderson trouble. that s from my exclusive interview with lora dimaggio, the sister of james dimaggio. she said there is no proof he abducted her or murdered her mother and brother. i ll talk to dr. drew pin ski. dr. drew, welcome to the show again. good to have you. what do you make of this case, because it s very intriguing, it s complicated and this astonishing interview with james dimaggio s sister, i had no idea of what she was going to say. what do you think of what he said? i spoke to you once about this already and i m telling you what, the fact that she is so intent on protecting her brother and doesn t contemplate an alternative view is troubling. most troubling is at the core of this we have a child, a teenager who may or may not have been provocati provocative. that s a sign that adults need to maintain boundaries and assist that child in creating that acting out behavior. people have is this grave misconception that teens will be teens but the reality is teens are in trouble will begin to behave in these ways and that is precisely when adults need to step up and not get sucked in or not get gratified by any of their own issues which in this case the guy clearly did. let me play you a clip from hanna anderson s interview with nbc and what she said about her relationship with james dimaggio. the letters were from like a year ago when me and my mom weren t getting along well. me and him would talk about how to deal with it, and i would tell him how i felt about it, and he would help me through it. they weren t anything bad. yeah. you see, that would keyuate an impression, wouldn t it, if you looked at the bigger picture here of somebody who was probably groomed by james dimaggio for some kind of relationship. that s right. is it possible, drew, if that s what was going on, that she may have gone voluntarily on this trip with him, completely ocho oblivious with what happen with the murder, tomorrow tour, fire? that s possible. people early in the course of this series of veevents were asking me, how is it a young 16-year-old could tolerate being abducted. for all she knew she was going on an outing with uncle jim, and the behavior she had engaged in, having been to malibu and hollywood. who knows what she thought was happening. the other issue is again, when she was spotted up in idaho by the former law enforcement officer on horseback, apparently, she muttered under her breathe, boy, we ll all be in trouble now having her believe they were hiding out, that he got her to believe. i think either way, though, you hit it on the head earlier. she remains a girl who just turned 16 and remains a victim of this appalling crime piers, if i can interrupt. i say this all the time and i hope people can take, big people take care of little people. that s it. adults take care of minors. we are it s a sacred obligation and if they are vile, it by comes on us. interesting development today in the george zimmerman story, the man, of course, who shot trayvon martin but was acquitted of doing so with any malice. his wife shelley zimmerman pleaded guilty to perjury over a lesser matter involving that case and said this in the interview. let s watch this. i was staying at my father s house. we had gotten into an argument the night before, and i left. pretty intriguing that we didn t know that until now, drew, george zimmerman s wife wasn t at home on the night he committed the crime. she was staying at the father s house. could that have affected george zimmerman s state of mind, is that a material piece of evidence. i don t know legally but certainly from behavioral psychological standpoint if he s in a heightened state of arousal because of a fight with his wife, he, i don t know that he would have been looking for trouble but may have been prone to find trouble where perhaps he wouldn t have on a different night. we don t have to use imagination too vividly to understand that someone feeling aggressive coming out of an unplease sent circumstance could have a heightened sense of alourousal get themself into a situation they might not have otherwise. fascinating. she said the marriage, there was a lot of strain and hinting it may be in trouble. an interesting development we discover that the zimmermans were not together that night. let s move on after the break, drew, to the big issue in america right now, miley cyrus and twerking. i need to get your opinion. i feel like we haven t closed this matter until i heard from you. after the break. like carpools.. polly wants to know if we can pick her up. yeah, we can make room. yeah. 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[off screen] bye, guys. bye. see ya. oh my god! every day, more people connect face to face on the iphone than any other phone. i miss you. tomorrow night, the latest on the crisis in syria. all eyes on the white house. will president obama order a strike? and my interview with lora dimaggio and what she says about her brother, the man accused of kidnapping hannah anderson. see it all tomorrow night. that s all for us tonight. anderson cooper starts right now. good evening, everyone. we begin with breaking news. action tonight by great britain slamming the brakes on any immediate military action on syria unless president obama wants to go at it alone, which the white house is signaling he might. parliament in england weighing a resolution that would have okayed the use of force. weighing it and finding it wasn t enough. here is the key moment as the measure failed loudly in the house of comments. mr. mcneal, you re like an
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