bill barr. during his deposition, the former attorney general told the committee that he repeatedly told trump that there was no credible evidence of election fraud. i made it clear that i did not agree with the idea of saying that the election was stolen. i told the president this was dumb. i did not want to be a part of it. this is what led me to decide to leave when i did. even though a number of his own top administration officials debunked election fraud conspiracies, trump hospice persisted. weeks following the election, he lashed onto the idea that pence would be able to overturn the results of the election by choosing to certify the votes of certain states. this was an illegal plan that was spearheaded by john eastman, who also played a role in the pressure campaign to get the vice president to delay the certification of the 2020 presidential election. this pressure campaign and intense focus on what the vice president would do on january 6th, resulted in the viol
stepian s recorded deposition to try to establish key facts about today s theme, the big lie, that donald trump knew he lost election, but continued anyway to rally his supporters around the false claim that he had won. we re also moments away from the supreme court releasing new decisions possibly on the key mississippi abortion case. we ll bring you any of the big cases as we learn about them. let s start with today s hearing because this missing stepian throws a wrench into the committee s plans after laying out how this would play out during the first prime time hearing last week. indeed, it does. because as we ve seen before, in-person testimony is so much more powerful even than the clips they showed of ivanka trump, for instance, on thursday night as we were showing on friday in the hearings. so the appearance in person would have been much more impactful. of course we re excited for them and his wife and their impending new baby, but that is the reality of what ha
infections. and likely unconstitutional. a florida judge appointed by ron desantis says the governor s proposed congressional map is not fair because the judge says it boxes out black voters. but we begin this hour in europe with a dramatic example of how vladimir putin s war in ukraine is backfiring. today finland s leaders say they support ending decades of neutrality and joining nato. the nato chief promises a quick welcome if finland follows through and applies to join the alliance. the kremlin says finland joining nato would definitely pose a threat to russia s security. the president of finland says putin has one man to blame for this decision. well, if that would be the case that we join, my response would be that you caused this. look at the mirror. sweden could soon follow finland. new nato members would redraw the security map and expand along russia s border the alliance putin hoped to weaken with his assault on ukraine. we begin our coverage with h helsinki an