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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130922:21:05:00

already had been tragically touched by gun violence. arthur daniels was 51 years old. and that day the simple act of going to work, going to work in the morning, cost him his life. sadly, it was the price that his family had paid once before. his widow, priscilla, told me how their 14-year-old son was murdered just four years ago, shot in the back while running from an assailant. senseless gun violence like this is an all too everyday fact of life here in the district and in our nation's other big cities. but it's a fact of life which we must stop accepting. the navy yard, sandy hook,

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130922:21:27:00

priscilla's lost arthur, her husband of 30 years. only a few years ago, as mayor gray indicated, another shooting took the life of their son, just 14 years old. i can't believe this is happening again, priscilla says. these families have endured a shattering tragedy. it ought to be a shock to all of us as a nation and as a people. it ought to obsess us. it ought to lead to some sort of transformation. that's what happened in other countries when they experienced similar tragedies. in the united kingdom, in australia. when just a single mass shooting occurred in those countries, they understood that there was nothing ordinary about this kind

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Anderson Cooper 360-20130918-05:29:00

what pops up in a background check? >> i think people are still going to ask the questions. if firearms were discharged whether he was charged or not they're going to ask questions and want to know does he have a violent history, does he have mental illness. what caused it, what's the motivation for those actions. those are the hard questions that are going to be asked. on the heels of this there will be policy and process reviews to be done. >> shawn, fran, thank you very much. up ahead i'm going to speak with the husband and daughter of kathy gaarde. they want you to know about her life, the life she lived, the woman she was, the loving wife and mom who's been taken from them. we'll hear from them next. >> i have these periods of numbness where it's like the water is receding and i just feel nothing. something whether it be a bill on the counter or heck i was in the bathroom and she recently bought me new towels and i just see the towels. and it just all hits. [ tires screech ]

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AC 360 Later-20130918-02:38:00

but just the later it got, the more desperate i got. and it wasn't until later that i'd gotten a call from one of my wife's co-workers who said that she had talked to some of her co-workers and that they had seen kathy was one of the ones who was hit. >> one of the co-workers actually saw her. >> yeah. saw that she was one of the ones who had been hit. and at that point i kind of said, look, this is crap. you guys -- you got to tell me what's going on. it was at that point that they went back to further behind the gates of the stadium there and came back out. and they said yes, she was one of the ones. that was it. >> how do you -- how do you deal with something like this? how do you get through? >> i don't know. i haven't done it yet. i mean, i've lost my parents.

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Anderson Cooper 360-20130918-05:15:00

but the difference between an injustice collector who does only that and an injustice collector who is dangerous is if someone incurs a grievance or an injustice and their response to that is very disproportional to what the grievance was, in other words in 2004 he thought he was disrespected by the construction workers, rather than come out and get into an argument with them, what did he do? he took out a gun and he shot tires. so used a deadly weapon to react to them. that is a dangerous injustice collector. >> interesting. mary ellen o'toole, appreciate you being on. thank you very much. just trying to piece together as much as we can bit by bit about what exactly occurred here yesterday. and again tonight trying to focus as much as we can on the people who lost their lives. next more on how someone with such a collection of red flags managed to get and keep a security clearance. and later, remembering a mom and a wife. my interview with jessica and douglas gaarde about a

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Anderson Cooper 360-20130918-08:28:00

monitoring and reinvestigation side, from soup to nuts. the system has failed. the public servants who were working at the navy yard, i'm sure congress and now of course the secretary of defense want to understand where that happened, why it happened and how do you fix it. >> shawn, should it make a difference that maybe he was apprehended by police but never prosecuted? should that make a difference in what pops up in a background check? >> i think people are still going to ask the questions. if firearms were discharged whether he was charged or not they're going to ask questions and want to know does he have a violent history, does he have mental illness. what caused it, what's the motivation for those actions. those are the hard questions that are going to be asked. on the heels of this there will be policy and process reviews to be done. >> shawn, fran, thank you very much. up ahead i'm going to speak with the husband and daughter of kathy gaarde. they want you to know about her life, the life she lived, the woman she was, the loving wife and mom who's been taken from them. we'll hear from them next. >> i have these periods of numbness where it's like the water is receding and i just feel nothing.

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Anderson Cooper 360-20130918-05:38:00

down there and meet kathy there, hopefully. and i got down there, and it was probable about that time. i guess it was about 7:00 or so. and they were down to the last -- there was about maybe four or five series of buses still coming through. but just the later it got, the more desperate i got. and it wasn't until later that i'd gotten a call from one of my wife's co-workers who said that she had talked to some of her co-workers and that they had seen kathy was one of the ones who was hit. >> one of the co-workers actually saw her. >> yeah. saw that she was one of the ones who had been hit. and at that point i kind of said, look, this is crap. you guys -- you got to tell me what's going on. it was at that point that they went back to further behind the gates of the stadium there and came back out. and they said yes, she was one of the ones. that was it. >> how do you -- how do you deal

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AC 360 Later-20130918-02:15:00

yesterday. and again tonight trying to focus as much as we can on the people who lost their lives. next more on how someone with such a collection of red flags managed to get and keep a security clearance. and later, remembering a mom and a wife. my interview with jessica and douglas gaarde about a remarkable woman and the emptiness felt they'll never quite fill. >> i don't know where my wife goes now. she was my partner. we had plans to do things. and now it's gone. [ male announcer ] don't miss red lobster's endless shrimp.

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Anderson Cooper 360-20130918-05:05:00

mary francis knight was the daughter of a green beret. as an it contractor she taught as a nearby community college. like michael arnold, martin bodrog today sunday school for preschoolers and in wintertime helped shovel driveways for neighbors. he leaves behind a wife and three daughters as well. he was 54. arthur daniels lived right here in southeast washington. he and his wife priscilla had five kids, nine grandchildren. what a family. he worked as a handyman in building 197. arthur was 51 sylvia frazier was the second youngest of seven kids. her sister told the "washington post" we have to forgive the gunman. we can't become bit ter. sylvia frazier was 53. gerald read spent much of his career in military law

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Anderson Cooper 360-20130918-08:37:00

and you know if she was able to get to a phone she would have called home. and then i kind of kept it from jessica. i didn't bother telling her while she was at work. but when it was time to come home she found out. when she called me, that's when i told her, okay, you come home and take care of the dogs. i'll go down to the parking lot down there and meet kathy there, hopefully. and i got down there, and it was probable about that time. i guess it was about 7:00 or so. and they were down to the last -- there was about maybe four or five series of buses still coming through. but just the later it got, the more desperate i got. and it wasn't until later that i'd gotten a call from one of my wife's co-workers who said that she had talked to some of her co-workers and that they had seen kathy was one of the ones who was hit. >> one of the co-workers actually saw her. >> yeah. saw that she was one of the ones who had been hit. and at that point i kind of

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