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when a leader is in distress, his supporters, if they have bonded to him and he has -- like trump does, they can be very volatile and they can be easily manipulated. that is what trump knows how to do. he has always done this. those, panic, late into the night posts to them saying he is a political prisoner, i am your redemption. i am your retribution and then something happens to him, so then they're going to be existentially threatened. this makes for a very unsettling and volatile environment politically as well. >> along those lines, he also says, and i want to be clear, donald trump is a ruling interview he is having on another network right now that was pretaped. i want to play what he said about the public and him going to jail. i think it makes your point clearly, ruth.

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Morning Joe Weekend

martha alito and jenny thomas, that they have, at the most benign possible explanation for their conduct, is they put their supreme court justice husbands in this terrible mind where their wives political activism is leading to situations where ordinary average people would look at the upside down flag being flown outside of a supreme court justice his house the same time that i saw upside on flags being flown outside houses on trump trucks at the same time and just say, trust us. there is nothing to see here. it is all her. that is a terrible position to put the public in. the public wants to be in a position where it doesn't have to overcome things like flying a flag where at that very moment was an insurrectionary symbol outside of your house and saying, you have to trust me. i had nothing to do with this.

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Inside Politics With Manu Raju

to. do people want four more years of this. this is where people are missing. really what is going on with american public. they're concerned about the border you know massachusetts does not have one republican in congress for massachusetts, but you know what? the state of emergency the governor selected a massachusetts, the border. you talk to the mayor of new york, the governor new york. it'll be the border inflation. >> so you're basically saying you're saying this is not going to matter to voters and calmness. not as much as i can. i'll put an asterisk there because it's still new. >> people will have some concerns about it, but it's not going to determine this election. i think at the end of the day democrats have overplayed their hand and it happens in world history when someone persecutes a political enemy simply because there are political enemy, it usually backfires on them and it creates a movement. but an early indication if you go for the amount of money raised, just look at the cheery out that the president that's on the base, that's the base. i'm talking about. >> i'm telling you i want to ask before you go on, let me i was just traveling california raising money for the party in

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The Weekend

>> i don't know that the public would stand up. i'm not sure the public would stand for it. i think it would be tough for the public to take. at a certain point there is a breaking point. >> he goes on to say at a certain point there is a breaking point. we have never seen something like this before in the united states, right, michael, from a former u.s. president. even richard nixon did not go this far. >> not a bit. did you see eisenhower to do something like this? let's have domestic terrorism to resolve who's going to be the next president. just as ruth said, this is a threat that goes through donald trump back to the early rallies of late 2015. remember when he used to say, and this was novel at the time and it has become old hat with him. look at those reporters in the hall.

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Inside Politics With Manu Raju

all the cities and i was with people who did not support trump. >> i was people who gave money against trump and republicans. and unspoken to me. they said i'm giving to trump this is unbelievable. what's happening? it's pushing has been all the other veronica ask you though, about just the underlying allegations of this trial. lucky? >> allegedly paid off a porn star to keep an extramarital affair. >> quiet. >> does that conduct concern you look, i think people knew about this before the last election. >> i don't think this is something they didn't know that he painted are off. okay. but from this standpoint, if you go with this premise that this is something illegal what was in the law that this broke then you would go back and should hillary clinton be tried because she paid a law firm to create a fictitious russia issue. >> and i'm not talking to i know you're not talking about that, but but the american public is going to look at all this is, this isn't just a cnn question. you're asking. what does american public look at? you had you had joe biden go

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FOX and Friends Sunday

institutions. and sick asylums some of the sickest mentally ill people are dropped into our country. we're going to be paying for this for a long time now i'm going to do the big deportation. the biggest ever -- eisenhower did the biggest, this will be bigger. but it's -- it's a very tough thing. what they've done to our country is unthinkable. that they could do this and so many other things i mean you're goapg to new york kids can't have little league games anymore. sounds so trivial right -- rachel: why? >> migrants are living on the field unless you have to play around the tent. will: how can you implement deportations and do you think the public will have -- the appetite the stomach for watching deportations on their television screens? >> that question is so great. and so tough -- because you know the radical left is going to start saying look, so you'll get rid of ten really bad ones.

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FOX and Friends Sunday

want to do that to the president. you know don't beg for anything. the way it is -- they have all of my books you know they went to -- for five years they sued me getting my tax returns right at the end of five years. they got them -- the supreme court actually gave it to them. that was the end of it that was it. they never found anything. they are the best accounting firms i have a pure gold firm. they call it gold rated firm i don't know what that's supposed to be. who knows. but with all of that for years you heard about my tax, then -- >> never looked into the clinton foundation. >> never found it and never with the clinton foundation never went all the way with the clinton foundation sort of interesting isn't it -- so that could happen. i don't know that the public would stand it. you know. i'm not sure the public would stand for it. with a -- pete: house arrest or -- >> i think it would be tough for the public to take at a certain point there's a breaking point.

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Inside Politics With Manu Raju

especially on the margins in those key battleground states where the outcome could be razor thin now, new polling, taken shortly after the verdict came out, shows the biden-trump rematch actually remains neck and neck with no clear leader. and last night, trump was spotted in an ultimate fighting championship about in new jersey but he stayed off the campaign trail this weekend. although he did speak with fox news in an interview that this morning you decide to say, hey, house arrest or even jail. >> it couldn't face what that does. >> i'm okay with it. i one of my lawyers here today on television saying, oh no, you don't want to do that to the i don't get a bag for anything. you just the way it is. i don't know that the public would stand it i don't i'm not sure that the public would stand four with a house arrest for i think i think it'd be tough for the public to take it a certain point. there's a breaking point all right, let's break this all down with our great panel this morning. cnn's paula reid, susan glasser from the new yorker

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Inside Politics With Manu Raju

out and tear of the american public that the laptop wasn't true. you had this network, say, a dubious doubtful about it. i mean, people put it in perspective was this politically motivated that you even took them to court about this? the answer is one. well, i wanted i want you to listen to what your predecessor paul ryan says about former president i understand the binary argument. >> it's a reasonable argument. i just don't agree with that argument i just characters to board and it's a job that requires the kind of character that he just doesn't have. he's talking about trump. he says it's not about policy essentially. it says one character. he says it's about character. why don't you agree? look, i would because everybody is entitled to their own opinion and you know what i've served with both presents with president trump and president biden, and i'm making a decision on what's best for the country. >> we didn't have inflation, we didn't have war in europe.

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Inside Politics With Manu Raju

>> we didn't have five embassies evacuated. we didn't have 13 goldstar families by miss decision in afghanistan. we didn't have this new axis of evil that we haven't seen from the 1930s, pushing but it's time i'm wondering character centers, but there's a whole support and is there a character matter when you say biden used his own power to tell the american public that the laptop was not true, that biden use now that through the secretary of state to go 251 people in the intel community former cia directors, to tell the american public that that wasn't sure you're concerned about use character there, but not cared about trump, but i'm weighing it all. i'm being consistent. you're being inconsistent and this if you listen, think for one moment you're saying only character matters and you're only going after trump people are human in this place of where we go. this is a decision an issue that, people knew about since 2016. so they voted on it. you're going back to something ten years. so if character matters, would you put somebody up on trial just because they're your

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