back in the spotlight surrounded by g.o.p. candidates? plus the huge defeat for the white house and president obama s trade agenda. i m freeing jarrett in for shep. seems the escaped killers are still this hour on the move, and a step ahead of police. folks living along a quiet country road report spotting two strangers climbing over a stone wall there. this was near a thick patch of woods and not far from the prison where the killers escaped, and it s just a few miles from where cops said search dogged picked up their scent yet. prison worker joyce mitchell gave the killers banned items before the escape. among those items she brought them hacksaw blades. white a gift for two cold-blooded killers, one of them actually nicknamed hack saw for using one to slice a man to pieces. david lee miller is live in new york. what are we learning about joyce mitchell? reporter: the district attorney sad that if charged and convicted for bringing contraband in prison she could get seven years behind bars. during this brief remarks the district attorney would not be specific would not detail what type of banned items she may have brought into the prison. he did say it is a broad list of items that are not allowed. ranging from, in his words toothpaste to cocaine. he did get specific when he said that authorities do not believe let me repeat that dish authority does not believe joyce mitchell brought power tools into the prison. it is believed that the two fugitives used power tools to make their escape and this is what the prosecutor had to say how they might have been obtained. if power tools were used, which we believe had to have been utilized, that there are many avenues that they could have obtained those from where l they were from contractors in the facility that had followed proper procedures in locking up their equipment when they would leave. reporter: a source now confirming to fox that joyce mitchell agreed to provide the two inmates with transportation. once they emerged from the manhole just outside the prison, but at the very last moment she apparently changed her mind. we also learned from the prosecutor that authorities are looking into the possibility that joyce mitchell s husband might have tried to bring contraband into the prison. the husband is described now quoting, as a person of interest. back to you. any other clues at the moment in the manhunt the search for these two killers? reporter: one of the newer developments is authorities are now looking at two sets of footprints, not far from the prison at a gas station. what is interesting is there are no foot paths in the immediate vicinity so that raises the question why i would there be two sets of footprints in this area. authorities have been trying to look at surveillance video. so far what they have seen has not produced any results. folks in the region drawing increasingly nervous. the police chief of nearby platsburg says the fear factor in the community is on the rise. friend and family call me all hours, there is anything going on? everyone is afraid. my neighbors are afraid. reporter: so far authorities say they have received more than 700 leads and to follow them up they have hundreds and hundreds of searchers in the area. they have sniffer dogs. they now have low-flying helicopters. so far nothing but greg in the words of one law enforcement official it could all change in an instant. greg? david, thank you very much. let s bring in a former supervisory deputy u.s. marshal. thank you sir for being with us. does it sound like they re closing in on them or no way to tell? there s really no way to tell. it s just a matter of time, though, before these guys get caught. really. why too you say that? i well remember the olympic park bomber, eric rudolph, who lived as a fugitive in the woods of the appalachian mountains and he managed to evade authorities there who were scouring the area for a very, very long time. five long years. and the only reason he was caught was just dumb luck eventually. wasn t suspensional wasn t intentional. sometimes imtakes dumb luck wimp the manpower and resource being used to bring these two guys back to justice, i really think it s just a matter of time. yeah. look, the terrain is incredibly rugged up in. i go up to the adirondacks every super with my family. i always avoid june because the black flies there are just devastating and they re as big as a buick. they ll drive you crazy not to mention a mosquito. so it s not going to be easy for those guys out there. i m certain they re out in the elements and used to being in the comfortable confines of the state prison there. so they ll probably want to come home before long. let me ask you about joyce mitchell. she was supposed to drive the getaway car say authorities. she didn t show up. is that why authorities think hey, they re probably not in canada probably not no mexico. likely still nearby. well, really, how far can they good on foot? in just a matter of six days. there haven t been any reports of sitings of them. there hasn t been any reports where they tried to come manneddeer a vehicle and chances are they re in foot and probably in a three to five mile area in the area. if it s true she provided hack saws to these guys on the inside that has to be aiding and abetting the escape and any other crime committed therefrom. she would be charged as co-conspirator for any crimes committed. even though sheback out of the alleged plan to be the driver of the getaway car doesn t matter. right? that s correct. it s not an attorney, but once you do something in furtherance of the conspiracy, you are officially a coconspirator even if you back out before the act was committed. so you say they re going to get em. we ll wait and see. thanks very much. the fbi is confirmed yet another arrest in connection with a terror plot up covered in boston. you recall a knife wielding man shot to death outside a pharmacy after police in federal agents confronted him. federal authorities say the boston resident plotted to attack police. cath cath has the news live in washington. what are you able to learn this afternoon? reporter: a review of the 21-page fbi affidavit confirmed what we were first reporting here at fox news, that the online profile showed he was a follower of isis and violent jihad. the you tub page showed links to who using his facebook account to promote violence and accused of radicalizing the men who beheaded a british soldier on the streets of london in 2013. and the of david states he had this how-to guide to make power tools. on may 31rovinsk i along with david right and usaama rahim met and hander out their plan to behead a high profile victim in in state. this plan was adon don ted in early morning hours in june at 5:00 a.m. on he morning of the shooting at the cvs. the affidavit says rahim told write he was going on veining that day which was code for jihad, and a plan to behead the boston cops. have you learn anything more specifically about the target? according to the same fbi affidavit the target was a well-known blogger but there s no evidence in the court papers the men took con treat steps to attack pamela geller who organized the draw hugh ham mad cartoon contest in garland texas, last month. the fines of goaler in papers as intended quote victim one search seems like wishful thinking or what law enforcement calls as aspirational plot. and they were fixated on a geller was called a pig for organizing the contest. in the same conversation the fbi of date states the men used more coded messages, including thinking with your head on your chest. which was clearly a reference to the isis beehead othe american journalist and aid workers. pretty chilling stuff. thank you very much. going to have a lot more on the two terror suspects who are now in police custody. i ll be talking to a former federal prosecutor who says the government could rely on everything from social media to wire taps to make its case. that s coming up on the fox news deck. continuing coverage of new charges announced today against two suspects accused in that terror plot in boston. the feds are saying these two men conspired to provide material support to isis. let s bring in a former federal prosecutor now a criminal defense attorney. good to see you. conspiracy to assist a terrorist group to murder americans. talk to us about the charge of conspiracy and the level of proof. what a conspiracy is it an agreement to too something wrong attempt government has to show is there was a meeting of the minds and that more than one person came together in an agreement to materially help a terrorist group, in this case isis. is that that easier to prove than the commission of a crime. absolutely. prosecutors love conspiracy. off you heal to show is an agreement and one act in furtherance of the agreement youch don t have to show the actual act was carried out. the first time they busted was david wright. yes. look like he flipped. absolutely. based on the reports he cooperated almost immediately and i think his cooperation led to this new arrest. might rovinski s defense be well, what would it be? there is a defense to conspiracy. is was just there. i was merely present itch heard stuff going on. i listened but never did anything to agree to carry out these acts. that s his tough sell. here s why it s a tough sell. you have wright cooperating. i believe you had interceptions of communications. i think wire tapps here. and plus you have evidence probably obtained in a search warrant as well. what s social media? can that be some evidence? the theory was that this guy was actually the one behind the plot. the one that radel radicalized a rahim so has to be some trail of social media. what about the search and seizure of the home of rovinski last week and walked out with apparently some stuff. i m sure they searched his house up and down and his computers, and those are the building blocks of a conspiracy prosecution. hang here for just a second itch want to ask you about something else. the family of the dead terror suspect is now calling on the feds to investigate remarks from a u.s. congressman who said fbi agents tried to arrest the suspect without a warrant. that congressman is the democratic steven lynch of massachusetts, attorney for the suspect s relatives say quote the family looks forward to issuing a subpoena to question congressman lynch. good luck with that. in an effort to precisely the source of his information. so far no response from the congressman. back to john. when i first read the news release by the two lawyers ronald sullivan, their lawyers for the family, rahim family, i sent out an e-mail saying, who are these lawyers? are they really lawyers? because one thing they say here is the supreme court has affirmed an arrest without benefit of a warrant violates the constitution. the supreme court never said that. listen. the first thing i learned as a lawyer, whatever you ve say pass the laugh test. this does not even pass the laugh test. it s ridiculous. a federal agent can arrest somebody without a wind if they have probable cause to believe a crime is committed. that s what the supreme court said. i don t know what the lawyerers talking about. it s nonsense. i thought they were in a coma for three years while in law school. then they also say this, that they look forward to issuing a subpoena to question congressman lynch about classified information. here s the thing. family lawyers don t have the power to subpoena, so good luck with that as well. plus, it s classified information. flankly what a congressman says is irrelevant. john laurel, a good lawyer. thank you very much. thank you very much. democrats hand president obama a stunning defeat on a major piece of legislation. what about the drama? 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reporter: as you mentioned president obama came up here to capitol hill, made his pitch behind closed doors to house democrats and got high marks from some democrats but clearly not enough. the president needed to convince people like house democratic leader nancy pelosi to support his trade agenda. this deal was democrats needed to provide most of the votes on trade assistance money and republicans would give most of the votes on trade promotion authority. pelosi slammed on the brakes. today we have an opportunity to slow down. we all know we have to want to engage in trade promotion and the rest of that. but we have to slow down. whatever the deal is with other countries we want a better deal for america s workers. the vote was 302-126 with only 40 democrats voting in favor of trade adjustment assistance. is it over, mike? reporter: well, i talked to some key republicans and they say they re willing to give it a weekend and try again early next week to see if there s a change of heard but they re saying it will require a full court press from the white house. now the president has some work yet to do with his party to complete this process. this isn t over yet. and we hope that they can get together and make sure that we finish this so that america is back leading. reporter: bottom line, with 302 votes against it will be difficult to overcome in a matter of a few days. i m not sure he has any juice left on capitol hill, if he ever had any to begin with. is this going to really change anything between now and let s say, next week, mike? reporter: you re right. a lot of people note that the president has never been known for having very warm, close relations here on capitol hill, and so even some folks who are typically his allies on many issues sound totally opposed on this one. only reason we re here to support it, the only reason we have been lob yesterday by no less then the president and three top cabinet officials because they know it paves the way to trade promotion authority. reporter: some democrats sounded offended by probe reason s pitch this morning, in the end they voted with the union over their president. quite a day of drama on capitol hill. mike emanuel, thank you very much. secretary of state john kerry betting ready to leave the hospital after surgery on his broken leg. a state department spokesman says secretary kerry will stay in boston to recover from it. he broke his right leg last month when he crashed his bike in france. he was riding near the swiss alps during a break in nuclear talks in march. the state department reports that secretary kerry will take questions from reporter when he his released. that could be within the hour. former secretary of state hillary clinton about to hold the biggest event yet of her presidential campaign. and former florida for jeb bush getting ready to formally kick off his run for the white house. we ll have details on both of them straight ahead. it s a calling. a love affair. a quest. the next horizon. everyone loves the chase. more headlines. surveillance video shows an explosion at a s cafe in northern australia. the manager died today after she suffered burns to 80% of her body. police say a truck slammed into the cafe on tuesday hitting gas canisters which triggered the blast. more than a dozen other people reported hurt. a judge sentenced a barber to ten years in prison for slashing a customer s throat during a shave, then escaping on his bike outside san diego. cop says the barber did not know the customer, who survived the attack. a defense attorney says the barber had psychiatric issues. an iconic voice behind the apollo space missions has died. jack king announced the launch of apollo 11 on its way to the moon. liftoff. we have a liftoff. 32 minutes past the hour. relatives say he died of heart failure in florida. he was 84. we ll have much more. i ve tried laxatives but my symptoms keep returning. my constipation feels like a heavy weight that keeps coming back. vo: linzess can help. once-daily linzess treats adults with ibs with constipation or chronic constipation. linzess is thought to help calm pain-sensing nerves and accelerate bowel movements. linzess helps you proactively manage your symptoms. do not give linzess to children under 6, and it should not be given to children 6 to 17. it may harm them. don t take linzess if you have a bowel blockage. get immediate help if you develop unusual or severe stomach pain especially with bloody or black stools. the most common side effect is diarrhea, sometimes severe. if it s severe stop taking linzess and call your doctor right away. other side effects include, gas, stomach-area pain and swelling. bottom line, ask your doctor about linzess today. boy: once upon a time, there was a nice house that lived with a family. one day, it started to rain and rain. water got inside and ruined everybody s everythings. the house thought she let the family down. but the family just didn t think a flood could ever happen. the reality is floods do happen. protect what matters. get flood insurance. call the number on your screen to learn more. mitt romney is getting involved in the white house race yet again. this time he is hosting some of the 2016 republican contenders at a ski resort in utah, and top doctors are there as well. the guest list includes marco rubio, carli fee recent narks senator lindsey fray ham and potential candidates, governor chris christie, john kashich scott walker, john roberts i has more. john, this is a closed door event i gather. from a candidate standpoint what s the purpose? reporter: it s a closed door event as far as cameras go but we have been allowed in to listen to the speeches of the candidates. a lot of focus on leadership at the submit, which we summit which we like to call camp ram ram. this is a gathering of the big mitt romney campaign money machine and it s clear there s still a lot of cash on the sidelines even with so many candidates in the race. so there really is a race for cash here. another candidate likely to jump in, by the way, john kashich ohio governor. won re-election in 2014. he has the sort of moderate policies it takes to win swing states senate runs are concerned about this brusk and somewhat outspoken style. win saud kashich could be the nominee of the party if hoe quote, stops acting like a jerk. i asked kashich about that. sometimes when you carry out policies you have to push. we don t need marshmallows. we need toughness but kindness, and what i say is my policies reflect the kindness of conservatism, so i might have to sit down and have a cup of coffee or drinks with fred to straighten him out. kashich says if he decides to get in likely won t be well into july. i learned from talking to scott walker last night when he a nouns and it s expected he would probably would be about the second week of july. so a lot of candidates still to announce in their very near future. jeb bush, though, john, is not there. right? reporter: he is not. he was invited last year. couldn t make it. invited this year but cooperate make it because he-on-the european trip. he wound up in estonia today and will be heading home. he has his big announce. on monday in florida, and gave the press a preview of what he will talk about when he was talking to them in estonia. let s listen. i had the opportunity to be governor of a state where a lot of things happen. some people liked it, some people didn t but the needle did move. there s no question that you ask friend and foe alike that florida changed by my leadership. i think it changed for the better. reporter: he says he is going to talk about that. while he was on his trip to eastern europe he had very tough talk about russian president vladimir putin. this morning at camp romney, camp mitt, should i say marco rubeover said that putin was downright evil. don t believe he sphone that far in the past but i asked him about that a little while ago and he said, he is aligning himself with evil people, he is absolutely evil and needs to be treated that way. john roberts in a sifting in deer valley. thank you very much. jeb bush, as john munged, laurenings his campaign on monday and hillary clinton is relaunching his white house run this weekend with a speech here in new york city. she put out a new campaign video previewing that event. every day americans and their families need a champion, champion who will fight for them eave single day every single day and i want to be that champion. it will be secretary clinton s first big rally after sticking to smaller events since kicking off her campaign. chris wallace is here. is this a launch, relaunch, do over? what s the deal? i think it s another phase. i don t think it s a relaunch in the sense that they didn t like what she was doing so far. they always wanted to start small. the so-called listening tour. very small stage pack wantinged events. now she is taking it to another level with a big public rally where she will knock bigger, broader terms why chev is running for president and what her vision is for where she would like to take the country. still not taking questions from voters but it s another stage in the process. and the first time she is going to be there with bill and with hillary and speaking in broad terms about her campaign. with chelsea. clinton claimed she is the champion of, quote-unquote everyday americans. to some poem that may be a tough sell since she and her husband made 30 million in the last 16 months. but is that perhaps the reason why she is going to be invoking the memory and image of her mother sort of hard scrabble life during the great depression? absolutely. what she is trying to say and the fact you make a lot of money doesn t mean that you can t care. fdr was a rich man. john f. kennedy was a rich man and votershold that against him. so i dope think they don t think they object to people being rich. the question is what is she going to do for us, where is she going to take the country? and clearly the fact she is speaking on roosevelt island and invoking the idea of fdr and an active role of government in trying to lift people up a talking about their very middle class background, and in fact kind of a hard-scrabble background for her mom will be an attempt to break through the very rarefied life she leads and say i understand and care about people like you. roosevelt island, you can take the tram but not an easy place to get to. let me did you about jeb bush. going to formally announce on monday. several media reports, including the washington post, allege that his campaign is struggling. is that true? well, struggling is probably too strong a word. hasn t gotten off in a sense hasn t even begun but has been out there raising tens of millions of dollars since last december. hasn t gotten off to a rousing start. the hoped by invoking his name and raising this money and putting together the bush coalition and organizers they might scare people out of the race. we re talking about 15-16 people and in all the national polls he is tied for the lead at a very low level. at 10, 11% long with scott walker and the latest fox poll with ben carson. i don t think that he has gotten quite the bump he expected to get and certainly hasn t scared anybody out of the race. orbed, as i say he hasn t leally even gotten into the race. we ll see what he has to say on monday in terms of his vision as to where he wants to take the country. his campaign obviously not only formally beginning but also going into a whole new level of him trying to express the vision thing, if you will. i m almost out of time but i have to ask you about what happened over the course of the last hour, hour and a half, on capitol hill. here president obama makes a rare appearance on capitol hill to lobby in support of his trade agenda and it wasn t just a narrow defeat. i mean, it was a dramatic, stunning overwhelming defeat, and even the democratic leader, nancy pelosi, voted against the president, and she is the one who greeted him today on capitol hill. how stunning a defeat is this for the president? i d say two thing about it in terms of what happened today it was a stunning defeat. it was humiliating. use whatever adjective you want to use. the idea the president goes up there, expends that personal capital, and gets a fish across the face. so that s not good. on the other hand, i ve been around capitol hill long enough to see that nothing is ever permanent on capitol and nothing ever gifts nailed down, and ever gets nailed down, and die think it s fire say at this point that the president s trade deal is dead, that this can t be resurrected? maybe even in the ickes next week? no. it s still up for grabs and you can be sure the republicans and especially the white house will be trying to find some accommodation that can turn nancy pelosi and house democrats around. but having said that, to the degree that we re always looking for signs that this is a lame duck president this certainly was a sign of that today. he was rejected not by republicans help was resqued by his own party in the house. a fish across the face. a memorable image chris. thank you very minute. chris wallace. going to have more on hillary clinton s campaign on fox news sunday with her senior spokesperson karen finney. also going to be talking 2016 and more with the former republican vice-presidential nominee, wisconsin congressman paul ryan. that is this sunday on your local fox stations. check the tv listings. the number of anthrax packages that the military sent out keeps greg, growing and now defense official says a laboratory in japan also received a shipment. that bring the new total to 9 labs across 19 69 labs across 19 u.s. states and d.c. and five different countries. the feds warned last week the number will probably grow as their investigation continues. some u.s. military facilities shipped inactivated anthrax samples so labs around the world to help research biological warfare but was we have been reporting now, pentagon officials are saying some of the samples were not properly deactivated. they say there is no risk, though to the general public. well what we re now learning about the social security numbers that hackers reportedly stole from minimums and millions and millions of government employees. we ll be speaking with a cybersecurity analyst who says if these hackers may have snatched his data as well. coming up next. love making sunday dinners. but when my back hurt, cooking all day. forget about it. tylenol was ok, but it was 6 pills a day. but aleve is just 2 pills all day. and now, i m back! aleve. you know our new rope has actually passed all the tests. we re ready to start with production. ok, are you doing test markets like last time? 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thanks very minute. the head of a federal union says the social security numbers of up to 14 million government workers apparently were not encrypt end when hackers stole them. but a spokesman for the office of personnel management says encryption might not have stopped the breech. he add opium does utilize encryption in some instances and is increasing the types of methods utilized to encrypt data. the white house said earlier it is still investigating. morgan bright joins us, cyber security analyst who says his information was in the system and is now likely in the hands of hackers. really? yours? greg, right here. this is my fs86. i had 32 pages of my entire life filled out for people. medical records. i had to sign releases for everything, back in 2001. sitting there. not only in the hands of hackers but most likely in the hands of the chinese. i would suspect you re a little bit angry about that. talk to us about what you think is perhaps incompetence on the part of the government? that would be the kindest word to say right now. we have had since 2002 an act called the federal information security management act. we have spent hundreds of boundaries dollars and you re telling me after all of this time you can t even encrypt all of my data? at this point heads need to roll and people need to be held accountable. people need to be fired. if this happened in the private sector and has after target, the ceo and cio were let good. where is the accountability? until you get that you will not make a change how we address cyber security in our nation. how could you not encrypt in this day and age such vital information for millions of people many of whom have access to all kinds of things. they could be the subject of extortion and blackmail not to mention theft, and so forth. look, when i went through my security clearance i signed my nondisclosure agreement they ve told you about the things that the reason they want you to be truthful tell us everything so you can t be blackmailed. that doesn t always work. people north always truthful. my biggest concern is it can expose people involved in sensitive operations, sensitive investigations to ongoing danger to peril but the biggest thing it s just not this. the interior business center hosted data center for over 150 different agencies and organizations. if people thinking this is just about opm this is just the tip of the iceberg. it s going get far worse buff we get to the bottom of it. and the thing morgan, is these hackers from what i have been reading, were actually into the system for the better part of a year. hanging out in the system, you know for a year, and correct me if i m wrong but didn t dhs spend about $500 million on a system that apparently didn t even detect that year-long breach? if you consider 12 months real-time intrusion technology. they re talking about new and improved i m stein 3 advanced. rebranding under under management will solve the problem. you can throw another billion half billion dollars at this, it doesn t get solved until you replace the people in positions of power making policy. they have to go. we have to could something different. maybe even getting the private sector involved happening cyber security. for all the billion wes spent evenly george steinbrenner put together a world championship time team with enough money. late assume heads on the block, congressional investigation other investigations. you know what these people are going to say? they re going to throw the blame on congress and the president saying you didn t give us enough money to undertake proper cyber security. its that just main mon nonsense. absolute nonsense you. have you re the only these folks work for the only place where you can print money where you can authorize the creation of money to pay for is this stuff. you can throw more money at it. not going to solve the problem. it s getting back to accountability and being more we thought he acquisition process is so broken, by the time you in bid out stuff it s 18 to 24 months behind. are we re still the colonial army fighting with musket loader. we re outclassed and outmatched with cyber defense. we have to change thing. it s outrage just and pathetic but in the context of the government that s redundant. prosecutors in germany dropped this investigation into claims the united states tapped chancellor angela merkel s cell phone. they say they could not find any evidence that would actually stand up in a court of law. well a german magazine you may recall broke the story back in 2013 citing documents from the national security agency leaker, ed snowden. the accusations had strained relations between president obama and the german leaders. heavy rain and flashflood watches sending people scrambling to protect their homes and cars in colorado, and louisiana. that is coming up next on fox news deck. your credit is in pretty good shape. chuck, i know i have a 798 fico score thanks to experian.com. kaboom. get your credit swagger on. become a member of experian credit tracker and find out your fico score powered by experian. relook. rethink. reimagine. because right here, right now it s time to take a closer look at botox® cosmetic, the only fda approved treatment for the temporary improvement of both moderate to severe frown lines and crow s feet. see what real results can really look like. so talk to your doctor about botox® cosmetic. and make it part of what you do for you. the effects of botox® cosmetic, may spread hours to weeks after injection, causing serious symptoms. alert your doctor right away as difficulty swallowing speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness can be a sign of a life-threathening condition. do not take botox® cosmetic if you have a skin infection. side effects may include allergic reactions injection site pain, eyelid drooping and swelling. tell your doctor about your medical history muscle or nerve conditions and medications including botulinum toxins as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. look me. in the eyes. and see what s possible. botox® cosmetic. it s time to take a closer look. we spend a lot of time online around here. but with all this speed from xfinity, it s all good. hey, why don t we do some homework for a change? 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that s just ridiculous. if we want to change that, then our job today is to vote down this bill. sadly i would vote against the taa. these guys are in the president s party? there you have it, my friends democrats i repeat democrats telling the president he i can take the trade deal and shove it. despite his pleading, despite hit cajoling, his own party just helping send the deal reeling
country. i ve been more successful than almost any administration. and from from that world body, he has he receives spontaneous laughter at that claim. even trump, in an unusual moment had to acknowledge it. but it s a snapshot of where the united states is right now. the united states has significantly changed its position in my judgment for the worst. we are not seen as the leader of traditional institutions. trump was bragging about how he s pulling the united states out of them, out of the international criminal court, out of the human rights commission. he was siting those as advantages of his policy. the rest of the world for the most part feels very differently and that s what we saw yesterday. interesting, too, sam, the president was jarred by that moment. he s used to get ago cheer like at that boy. but there he kind of paused and stopped in his tracks and later said well, it was meant to be a joke. but if you look at the content of the speech, it was not unlike the one he made last year which is putting forth the steven miller america first policy. as someone who has had people laugh at him a lot, with it hurts. it s jarring. so i feel bad for trump in that sense. no, i don t. but i think, you know, it s funny because you look back at his twitter feet and he literally is talking about how people are laughing at us and now it s actually happened. his whole thing is america first. the consequences may be laughter, but it is putting us in a different place in the world. it was about setting up essentially an international patronage system in which people had to show us respect in exchange for us helping them. so, yeah, he got laughed at, but this is what the outcome is of the world view that he holds. . yesterday s performance, you can see view it as one portion of a long, plain tv series, which he has set up in his mind. but if you frame it up in this sense that a year ago he stood up and rocket man from the u.n. podium and everything like that, inge many of the delegates who arrive here around the globe were shocked, were taken aback at the lack of detore yum and what they viewed as the lack of policy in terms of public speaking. until yesterday you have the contrast one year later they snicker and laugh at donald trump on the podium. but do you think they re laughing at trump or are they just sitting there because he s amusing to them now, not so much fearful as he was last year, but they ve come here, once again, looking for a country that they feel is lost and that country is america? well, for me, he just reordered the world. he called saudi arabia good people. it s almost describing the world in a completely different reality than it is, actually. so he just legitimized some actual dictatorships. he legitimized a lot of people in the east are saying we need to look at new alliances. now that america is going through this turmoil, we need to look at new alliances. such shifting back of international relationship sess dangerous for america. it is reducing america s power and this speemp was a very, very serious one to shift that. but do you think many of the delegates were surprised by that? i think they were surprised, but many are scared. you have king abdallah of jordan taking it sooer very seriously. you have people taking him seriously and you have people laughing. but it was a scary speech in international relations. he s underestimating the meaning of diplomacy and he s underestimating how much work has been done to bring the world together. and he s single handedly destroying that. stitch by stitch. yeah. we re bog to show more of the president s speech later on. to our other top story, the senate judiciary committee will vote on brett kavanaugh s nomination to the supreme court just hours after he and christine blasey-ford will testify before the committee. chairman chuck grassley said if the committee is ready, it may hold a vote on kavanaugh on friday at 9:30 a.m. senate republicans are under pressure to move kavanaugh quickly through the final stages of his nomination to the supreme court. majority leader mitch mcconnell has warned his colleagues that he has planned to hold a vote no matter what happens possibly as soon as next week. mcconcanel says he is confident going into a vote. we re going to be moving forward. i m confident we re going to win, confident this is able to be confirmed in the very near future. meanwhile, president trump is speaking out on his supreme court nominee s second accuser, slamming deborah ramirez s credibility. also congressional democrats of playing a con game with the allegations against brett kavanaugh. the second accuser has nothing. the second accuser doesn t even know she thinks maybe it could have been him, maybe not. she admits that she was drunk. she admits there are time lapses. i think it s horrible what the democrats have done. it s a con game they re playing. they re really con artists. they re trying to convince you know, they don t believe it themselves, okay? they know he s a high quality person. they don t believe it. it s just resist and obstruct. they re playing a con game and they play it very well. pit cann it cannot be allowed to happen. the democrats know it s a con game. they know he s high quality. and they the wink at each other. they re winking. they know it s a con game. what he said about the accuser is simply disgusting. willie, i guess we can back up and put that in a box. there are so many self-inflicted wounds on the part of the republicans, the vote on friday calling the i think it s a female prosecutor, sex crimes prosecutor who will possibly be doing the questioning tomorrow. an assistant? some of them are small fails, but my god, come on, get it right. the president stayed on message for several days. the white house, his senior aides, rick tyler got to the president and said you cannot go after the women. say what you want that brett kavanaugh is a good person. but don t go after the women. the judiciary committee now has rachel mitchell coming in to do some of the questioning of dr. ford and judge kavanaugh tomorrow. how is the dynamic because of that different today than it was this time yesterday? how is what dynamic difference? the dynamic with rachel mitchell, the sex crimes prosecutor being in the room tomorrow? it s hard to know. look, i think this process has just been really i know republicans have got to move on this vote because they re running out of time. but the whole process has lost credibility. we re in, really, a post truth political world where it doesn t seem to matter to one side or the other who is telling the truth. everybody seems to have weighed in. we haven t heard from any witnesses. let s have the vote on friday morning and after this has happened and we ll see what comes out of the hearing. but it s just remarkable to me that everybody has this inclusion on one side or the other based on whether it helps my team, the republicans, or my team, the democrats, without hearing from dr. ford. why are we coming to these conclusions first and not later? because this process is not designed to get to the truth. and a lot of people on both sides have made up their mind before they heard from judge kavanaugh. a new wrinkle overnight details some of what dr. blasey-ford is expected to share when she the testifies. usa today confirms it has object stained declarations of sworn witnesses. quoting from the report in her declaration, ford s friend said ford told her with about the alleged assault during a june 2013 meal and contacted ford s attorneys on september 16th of this year to tell them ford had confided in her five years ago. in that declaration, she writes, during that meal, christine was visibly upset so i asked her what was going on. christine said she was having a hard time because she was thinking about an assault she experienced when she was much younger. she told me she had been trapped in a room with two drunken guys and that she had escaped, run away and hid. remember, that s june 2013. more from the usa today report on the sworn declarations of four witnesses for dr. ford. keith koegler said he confessed to her when discussing the light sentencing of brock turner. he said christine expressed anger at mr. turner s lenient sentence saying she wasly bothered by it because she was assaulted in high school by a man who is now a federal judge in washington, d.c. koegler said ford revealed to him that the person who attacked her in high school was president trump s favorite nominee. ford s e-mail response, brett kavanaugh. another declaration from rebecca white, a neighbor of dr. ford, also recalling ford sharing her story with her after white wrote a blog post about sexual assault. so, mika, this is a new usa today revelation that came in overnight. there s been a lot of talk that there hasn t been strong corroboration of dr. ford s story. now you have four different people kwor rating. no. and this is the kind of information that s going to be put on the table. i think it s going to be a very difficult day for dr. ford because she s basically going to have to put her life out there to talk about something terrible that she truly believes happened to her and absolutely may have happened to her. but am i using my words correctly? because in i think i i feel like in the media especially, we have two camps, some who say it has to be believed and that s where you begin and others who just want to report the story to say to see what s going to happen. what do we do with these allegations? in the age of me too, now what with this? we have become cynical and jaded about such stories and what we really need to exercise is respect and compassion for people s integrity. absolutely. i think a lot of people don t understand that when something happens to you as a 16-year-old does matter. you continue continue to suffer with it. it trauma advertises you. if you had not been assaulted, think of a car accident that happened to you. this is psychological impact. what we need psychologically i feel like there s so much political discussion, what we re missing is psychologists, experts in the field of why this matters to dr. ford as an individual. why this is impacting her life. i believe that if something happened to you, at any age, it does impact your life and why it matters for america to potentially have a supreme court judge who has his views about women, who has a predatory aggressive views about women. that does matter for the future of our country and our goals and teenagers, no matter who you are. so in order to get the truth, we need to actually create safe space tomorrow for her to tell the truth. this is a trauma advertised person. can the republicans even help themselves? this is not that difficult. you can have.respect. many republicans are standing firm in their support of judge kavanaugh and some are publicly rejecting the the sexual misconduct allegations against him. what we see we see taking place right now is a pr stunt by the democrats. it is character assassination. this is something that is dirty politics at its worst. certainly, if it s true, it means he did something bad 36 years ago, but does it disqualify him from the supreme court? so you think these women are making it up? they had a little help, i have a feeling. accusations are being made, things that didn t happen and i think it s unfortunate. nobody wants to hear what you think, actually, because at this point, this is an allegation and your answer should be, sir, this is a really important thing that we need to look at. this is a very serious allegation. i don t know why they have to smear her. i don t know why they have to force a vote on friday and make it completely look like they don t care what is going to happen on thursday. and sam stein who calls a female sex crimes prosecutor an assistant at this point, really? i get why you can t talk yourself on the committee because you re incapable of being respectful or treating women of any sense that they might have qualifications to be as high ranking as you. here is mitch mcconnell, an assistant. really. we have hired a female staff to come in and ask these questions in a professional and respectful way. what s wrong with them? i think there could be a really good reason, sam stein, politically, to have a woman ask the questions. it could be a great way of saying that. and he just i don t know. what happened there? he can t look at a woman in any other way but a supportive role that is lower. there is obvious discomfort. why not bring in a psychologist as a witness to further bolster the testimony? why not bring in a medical expert? in addition to the friends and mark judge, that would create a forum that would be helpful for the confirmation process but informational about the issue of sexual assault. in the end, though, what they re essentially doing is nothing that has happened this had week will encourage future victims of sexual assault from ever coming forward if the person they re accusing is a person of privilege or power. donald trump is the most powerful man in the world. for him to take a position of attack is jarring. and it will have ramifications for years to comer for people who have been victimized by sexual assault and feel that they need to come forward. but look at what happened to her and say i can t do that. the woman s name, the assistant, is rachel mitchell. but when you hear jim say this didn t happen, definitively, he doesn t believe the story put forward by dr. ford. this guy is a bad guy, things we ve heard about him, he shouldn t be on the supreme court, what do you hear when you hear all that, other than two sides who made up their minds before this process even started? i hear sexism being had legitimized in public. this is the definition of sexism. and, at the same time, to dismiss a woman s claim is disrespectful of her entire story. it is not easy to talk about such intimate emotional issues. it s not easy to talk to your best friends about it. it s not easy to talk to your therapist or in front of politicians cynical about your own thing. we need to start with the basic concept of respect for women. and that extends to the not holding a vote within 18 hours of her testimony. so be able to fully process what s going to.happen on thursday, i would imagine people would want to take some time to talk about it. but for them to now schedule a vote at 9:30 a.m. on friday where they will have basically 12 hours or so to process what it says is in itself insulting to dr. ford. david, like you, i ve been sitting here listening to this conversation and like you, my hair is graying. i m wonder background your thoughts on the following premise, that the institution of the presidency and the united states senate, that everyone so revered not that long ago is how long will it take to repair the damage being done to both institutions? you put your finger on what i think so many of us feel watching everything coming out of washington. washington is in a partisan war, the likes of which i ve never seen. we ve had nasty supreme court confirmation battles. but never one as sharply polarized as this had. we ve had presidents who attack the opposite party. i think one powerful strand of the cav knew story is that real human experience, the experience of dr. ford, her memories of it, her trauma, her having told her husband, her therapist, her friends about these memories years ago before brett kavanaugh s supreme court nomination was ever even imagined, we re all thinking about it and dealing with that reality of trauma and i m also struck, mike, by the fact that the republicans know they have to be careful. this is a different country in some ways. so i think that says that however nasty this spectacle has been this week, the country has moved some. the claims of the women who were victims in these cases, i think, are are being taken more seriously. the republicans are more afraid of seeming to roll right over them. yeah. there s so much going on here. good thing we have a three-hour show. but before we go, marsha blackburn, a woman calling another woman a liar without knowing the truth. i have to tell you, that is going to that s not going to play well with the women in tennessee. it may play well with the president who pays off porn stars and playboy bunnies and brags about grabbing women by the genitals. it s not going to play well with the women of tennessee the. still lady, we ll talk to a member of the judiciary committee. senator john kennedy. what does he want answered during tomorrow s hearing? 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it was great. it was meant to get some laughter, but it was great. president trump telling reporters that his laugh line was intentional. willie, come on. he does not think that, does he? steven miller is one of the great comedy writers. that guy is a funny guy, doesn t want anybody to come into america unless they re white. that s it. that s not one of his funnier lines, certainly. he s a funny guy. he took on iran and took on what he called globalism. iran s leaders sow chaos. they do not the respect their boarders or the sovereign rights of nations. instead, iran s leaders plunder the nation s resource toes enrich themselves and to spread mayhem across the middle east and far beyond. the iranian people are outraged that their leaders have embezzled billions of dollars from iran s treasury. the united states has launched a campaign to deny the regime the funds it needs to advance its bloody agenda. america s policy of principled realism means we will not be held hostage to so-called experts who have been proven wrong over the years time and time again. the united states will not be taken advantage of any longer. america is governed by americans. we reject the ideology of globalism and we embrace the doctrine of patriotism. the united states is the world s largest giver in the world by far of foreign aide, but few give anything to us. that is why we are taking a hard look at u.s. foreign assistance. moving forward, er only going to give foreign aid to those who respect us and, frankly, are are our friends. so david ignatius, the u.s. embassy in israel moved to jerusalem, the president pulled out of the iran deal, the summit with kim jong-un, going after nato for its spending, the list goes on and on. what jumped out at you as difference and new in his speech this year versus last? i think you have to say that president trump is getting more confident in the way that he wants to run u.s. foreign policy, pulling out of international organizations, treaties, traditional alliances. he thinks that s working. a year ago, we had the intense rhetoric toward north korea. the speech a year ago at the u.n. talked about rocket man and then we were shocked and then the fire and fury period. and trump says to himself, look, i m now in a negotiation with north korea about denuclearizing its program. he s playing exactly the same script now with iran. very sharp rhetoric. at the same time, he s saying to rouhani, i m ready to sit down and talk with you at some point. i m prepared for negotiations. he s seeing the same process that happened with north korea eventually, i think, happening with iran. so however much we and others may be troubled by what the president said, it s clear that in his own mind, he thinks this is working. so president rouhani of iran said that president trump suffers from a weakness of incident lukt. is it true, that s, as some of our guests said yet that president trump wants to sit down with rouhani, he wants a new deal, he wants to reshape that relationship? if he does, then he needs to deal with it differently. he s underestimating what the meaning of culture is, how you actually deal with this. you have to be respectful so you can encourage them to sit down and with america. they are financing military militias all over the region. it is how do you deal with the bad guy? do you make them close to you or do you isolate them and make them nor this is how you get someone on the negotiating table. so he s missing the mark. he s using authoritarian doctrine to deal with international relations and that is accurate, i would have to say. culture adviser, we ll add that to the list of history adviser, sexism adviser with, maybe an overall truth adviser. it has its problems, this presidency. rick tyler, were there any pieces of the speech that were strategically puts in place for the republican base? no, i don t think so, mika. look, the president took his comedy show to the world and in six official languages of the u.n., they got the joke. but being serious about it, he outlined his vision on of withdrawing from the world. i think, you know, the trade deals that he has, the tariffs are a bad idea because they re attacks on the consumer. but he s misunderstanding the mother of the world as a stabilizing force and after world war ii, there was a reason we paid for defense of europe, defense of japan. and he seems to ignore all that history. and what was revealed by sort of the laughter is that he is not taken sears why youly by the u.n. i think a lot of gripes with the u.n., but if they don t respect him, then it s a wasted opportunity. it was a real wasted opportunity with the leader of the free world. and his vision was we re withdrawing from the world, you all are bad actors and we re going to go home. we did that before, we did that during woodrow wilson. that led to world war i. i think this is a serious moment that the president and his leadership is not taken seriously by the world and i don t know how we cover from that. i don t, either. i think this has pretty tough consequences. and it s a tough day with america as did the biggest loser to use i guess reality show terms. still ahead, the federal government is once again on the brink of a shutdown. the house is poised to pass a short-term spending bill, but there is fear on capitol hill that the president trump could veto it. politico s game sherman joins us with new reporting on that. morning joe will be right back. let s face it everybody hates fees. now sofi has no fees on personal loans. that s right no fees on loans to remodel your bathroom. no fees on loans to consolidate your credit card debt. see no fees just feels good. boo yeah. if you ve got the drive, you can do a lot with no fees on personal loans. boo yeah. have you lost weight? 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( ) you shouldn t be rushed into booking a hotel. with expedia s add-on advantage, booking a flight unlocks discounts on select hotels until the day you leave for your trip. add-on advantage. only when you book with expedia. joining us now, jake sherman. jake, i i guess we re looking at another government shutdown, this one brought to you by downto donald trump? there s a big question bouncing around the capital that if the kavanaugh hearing goes poorly, the president might is at rick to shut down the government as a distraction. the white house denies it. but remember, government funding runs out at the end of this week. and we ve seen this movie before. the last time government funding was up, the president said he was going to sign a big spending bill and almost did want and had paul ryan at the white house almost begging him to sign. the stakes are extraordinarily high. it s an incredibly extraordinary week and the president has not said he s going to publicly sign this bill. jake, would it be over the border wall funding strictly or is there something else complicating this measure? there shouldn t be anything else complicating this measure. the border wall is the one thing the president has said he wanted and he has not gotten. it s a high likelihood that he s not going to have a republican washington in a couple of months and this is the one thing, probably the central tenant of his entire presidential campaign was this rd bohrer wall, something that in an all republican washington with paul ryan and mitch mcconnell controlling capitol hill he s not been able to get. if he doesn t shut down the government this time, there s a likelihood he could do it in december. i think the chances of a government shutdown before the end of 2018 are extraordinarily high. jake, big day tomorrow. two testimonies before the senate judiciary committee, dr. ford and judge kavanaugh, it s like the season ending finale of a big soap opera deal. 5:00, rod rosenstein at the white house. so given what might occur tomorrow, the kcosmetics of wha might occur tomorrow, the optics, is mitch mcconnell determined? is it set in cement that there will be a vote very or saturday? it s not set in cement. the senate judiciary committee has taken the first step to set up the vote in the committee on friday. chuck grassley, the chairman of that committee they are noticing it to get it on people s radar, we will see how the hearing goes on thursday and then they will make a decision, but at the top of playbook this morning senate republicans have told the white house and have told other people in washington that they could vote on a procedural measure to advance kavanaugh as soon as saturday. so all available evidence, again, we don t like to make predictions right now, but all available evidence indicates that the senate republicans are pushing ahead with this nomination. they are leaving almost no possibility for this nomination getting off the rails and they believe they could move as soon as this weekend in a very rare weekend session for the senate. so it does look like all full steam ahead at this moment and mitch mcconnell has said as much. he has said basically kavanaugh will be a supreme court justice in short order. so what is the pressure, as you talk to senators, congressmen and women in their offices, jake, that they re feeling from the outside, from conservative activists, from their own constituents about this nomination? it s almost an avatar for something else, we can t back down, we can t lose this fight, regardless of what the testimony is tomorrow. is there any world, is there anything that mitch mcconnell, chuck grassley could hear tomorrow that would change their votes on judge kavanaugh? i think the most important thing to keep an eye on is anybody who is worth their salt with a, involved in this campaign, not people who are detached from the campaign, but people who are sending money and looking at the polling data no he that this election hinges on basically one subset of the population, college educated female voters. there is nothing else almost that matters. those voters went for donald trump in 2016 in larger number than people expected and have peeled off. you talked about the florida senate race and the texas senate race. you re seeing women in big numbers go for democrats and you could chalk that up to whatever you would like, but i think most republicans feel like they are going to have a woman who is going to be most likely sitting at a table, emotional about an episode that she recalls 30 years ago and you are going to have a bunch of white men who are going to go ahead with the nomination and vote on this nomination for brett kavanaugh just days after that. so if you talk to republicans privately, there s no question they re concerned about the dynamics and the optics and as you put it the cosmetics of this. again, we are right on the doorstep of election day so it s incredibly important the optics are more important than ever. rick, if you hear jake s reporting it seems they are aware of the optics and dynamics and yet literally it appears every move they make falls flat from calling this female prosecutor that they re bringing in to do questioning, which you could spin well, as, you know, we are self-aware, i don t think it would be the most comfortable situation for a woman to be surrounded by ten men and questioned about her personal life so we are being mindful of that and bringing in a like-minded you could spin this in a positive way or calling her an assistant. i mean, what is that? that s just you don t need to have unforced errors like that at this point. ramming the vote through on friday morning, not even 24 hours after the testimony, it shows you don t even care what she has to say. can they even pretend to care about women? can they even take this and use it as, quite frankly, an avenue to show that they care about women, that women should be heard and that women should be respected. why can t they help themselves? what am i missing? the optics will terrible and will continue to be terrible. i don t think this is lost on mitch mcconnell. let me offer an alternative thinking. he has viewed what s going on and what i believe he needs that he believes needs to happen is the bleeding needs to stop and he s going to put up this vote despite that he says he s going the supreme court and all that, he has to say that for his base but i think he understands the risk full well. he may put this for a vote on friday morning and i don t think rushing the vote may work in republican s favor. lisa murkowski and susan collins will have to go back to their states of maine and alaska and explain why they supported judge kavanaugh, you also have jeff flake on the committee. i think leader mcconnell is willing to risk getting this done one way or the other, either get him on the supreme court or have it over with and, by the way, there is a great argument to be made for eight on the north and not nine as a conservative, we can talk about that at another time, but i think that s what s going on here. final thoughts. i personally at this point don t understand why the republicans don t ask for an fbi investigation. it s the least they can do. what we need to do regardless if you are a democrat or republican, we need to do the right thing. right. and the right thing is to respect both judge kavanaugh as well as dr. blasey ford. we need to do the right thing by investigating it, we need to do the right thing by taking our time to actually decide what s the right thing to do. about you this rushing, it makes it jaded, it make it cynical, it loses everyone s credibility in here and that s my callout. is for us to do the right thing, the just thing, the truthful thing and based on the foundation of respect. jake sherman, thank you very much, rick tyler, thank you both as well. great to have you on. coming up after showing some restraint president trump escalates his rhetoric against brett kavanaugh s accusers. the new york times peter baker joins us with his latest reports on that. plus new reporting on the president s thinking about deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. oh, yeah, that s going on tomorrow, too, ahead of their highly anticipated meeting which happens tomorrow. morning joe is coming right back. not long ago, ronda started here. and then, more jobs began to appear. these techs in a lab. this builder in a hardhat. .the welders and electricians who do all of that. the diner staffed up cause they all needed lunch. teachers. doctors. jobs grew a bunch. what started with one job spread all around. because each job in energy creates many more in this town. energy lives here. and the wolf huffed and puffed. like you do sometimes, grandpa? 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[ laughter ] i didn t expect that reaction, but that s okay. the laughter, what do you feel about that? oh, it was great. that was meant to get some laughter, but it was great. yes, i m a changed man now and it s all because of pathological liars anonymous. i even have my picture on the cover of news week magazine, yeah, every day. that s the ticket. welcome back to morning joe. it is wednesday, september 26th. with us we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle, politics editor for the daily beast sam stein, columnist and associate editor for the washington post david ignatius, former aide to the george w. bush white house and state department s elise jordan, new york times reporter jeremy peters and chief white house correspondent for the new york times peter baker. joe has the morning off, but, willie, we were talking last hour about the president getting laughed at at the unga. it s clear the world was laughing at him, you get a window into what he appears to be like to the outside world. do you think he got it? the president? he didn t get it in the moment. he didn t get it. he was stunned by the laughter. he didn t know what was going on. as we showed later on he said it was written that way. we wanted to break the ice at the beginning. your reporting from the white house, what was the real reaction to trump getting laughed at in front of the world? well, this is a president who is not used to audiences like this. right. he only speaks to rallies and friendly places, rallies that are usually very affirming for him, that he plays off of, great energy between him and his supporters. this is not a crowd of his supporters, this is a crowd of very skeptical in some cases hostile foreign leaders that haven t taken to his leadership. what he was something at the beginning was this braggadocios about how great america is doing. it didn t go well in that hall. there are some hong his lashing out later in the day at judge kavanaugh s accuser and some of the democrats who are opposing him was at least a function of his frustration over what happened in that hall, that he was sort of reacting to that sort of mockery in effect that he was feeling from these world leaders. mike barnicle, who in the white house, who is the person who had the job to tell the president, no, mr. president, they weren t laughing with you like at a rally, but the entire world was laughing at you. no one told him that. what made you think someone would do that? if he was walking around frustrated obviously he got the message and i m not going to go on a limb and think he got it himself. could you give me about three or four years to come up with an answer for that because there is no one. there is no one. there is no one. they just said that was great. i don t know whether they said that was great but there s no one that is going to bring up anything negative to him. how much tv did he watch yesterday. exactly. peter baker and then i d like david s reaction to this as well. according to your reporting, peter, does this speech yesterday represent a real ascendancy for john bolton, along with stephen miller who is always there drafting these epic speeches, but john bolton s voice seems to have been implanted in parts of that speech. it is, yes. obviously right now bolton is probably the most important voice in their ear when it comes to foreign policy other than perhaps steven miller particularly on immigration issues. you heard bolton s view about iran in that speech. iran has been an important element of john bolton s world philosophy going back years, so the confrontation, the desire to sort of take on iran is going that john bolton has been add vieding republican presidents to do for quite a while. remember, no speech is going to constrain president trump. no speech is going to define even how he approaches things. a year ago he was full of balcosity towards north korea, today he s praising kim jong-un as terrific and practically his best friend on the world stage. it s very much something that is a one-man presidency. a president who can shift on a dime when it comes to foreign policy depending on how he thinks things are going. is that your view? i think that the price of a speech, the value of a presidential speech, has just been completely downgraded in this presidency. so donald trump appears to be reading for the first time a speech from the teleprompter. it s so unauthentic. we know that the second that he leaves the official format he s going to say what he really believes. and so i guess i somewhat see why they re disincentivized, the whole national security apparatus, his speech writers, his coms people from spending a lot of time and effort on a speech for the u.n. general assembly, but it is sad that the president doesn t seem to take these ceremonial duties serio seriously. after watching tv and realizing laughing was not a good thing, the last time he was publicly laughed at was i think the white house correspondence dinner and he ended up running for president. he might end up running for reelection, who knows. david, we are all focused on the laughing. i think it was significant. i really do. i felt it deeply. having said that, could it be argued that his policy and his approach has made the world safer, perhaps surrounding north korea and events in north korea, are there positives to draw from in terms of the president s approach? well, i think it s hard not to see the world as somewhat safer, a world after the rhetoric about north korea. we are now in a diplomatic negotiation with north korea about denuclearization. nobody knows where that s going, but i think that process is a good one and i think it s given trump some confidence. i thought peter baker s comments about the growing primacy of john bolton, the national security adviser, were interesting. i still as i look at this administration see the center weight in foreign policy president himself obviously but secretary of state mike pompeo, he s kind of the guy who can finish trump s sentences and he s the lead negotiator with north korea, he is really the key strategist, i think, on iran and how to deal with iran. he is appointed a range now of special invoice to cover all the key issues, afghanistan, syria, north korea. so the trump show is as unpredictable and as we saw laugh prone as ever, but there is a little more balance in how policy is conducted out at the state department now. mike, go ahead. how does secretary pompeo figure he s going to deal with iran, take care of iran s issues with regard to the rest of the world without really talking with iran? so i think we should take seriously, mike, trump s repeated asides about how he s willing to sit down and talk with the iranians. everything i hear behind the scenes tells me that trump has a model, you know, uses a lot of rhetoric, beat them up, threaten war and then sit down and do the deal. and he keeps saying to president rouhani in the end you will sit down. in the end we will do a deal. i think he means it. this is his model for how things work. so we will have a lot of bumps along the way but i think in donald trump s mind there is this idea eventually we will get to a new negotiation. i will do the deal that president obama could never do, the great deal. so i wouldn t i wouldn t just ignore the talk about diplomacy. peter baker mentioned that president trump then spoke out on his supreme court nominee s second accuser, i mean, we thought the day was done, but he kept going. here is president trump slamming deborah ramirez s credibility. the second accuser has nothing. the second accuser doesn t even know she thinks maybe it could have been him, maybe not. she admits that she was drunk. she admits time lapses, there are time lapses. i think it s horrible what the democrats have done. it s a con game they re playing. they re really con artists. they re trying to convince you know they don t believe it themselves, okay? they know he is a high quality person. they don t believe it. it s just resist and obstruct. they re playing a con game and they play it very well. it cannot be allowed to happen. and the dems the democrats are playing a con game. c-o-n, a con game. they know it s a con game. they know he s high quality. and they wink at each other, they re winking. they know it s a con game. all right. lease jordan, so this is fascinating on many levels, i think his comments about the accuser were disgusting. i also think that he we i think we re going to see a risk that the democrats completely overreact to this, that liberals overreact to this and that republicans some of them play into it too much. this is the kind of thing trump loves, sewing doubt about people, questioning their credibility, if it revolves around sex he s even more interested. if it gets into the gutter, that s where he s the happiest. but i think there are political ramifications for both sides if we get in on this fight. i mean, there s a story here that s going to play out on capitol hill in my opinion the republicans should be calling for an fbi investigation, and respect the facts. well, you look at what just happened there with donald trump and he has this moment where he s on the international stage and he could talk about america s role in the world but instead he does, he goes directly into the am you had. he loves it, yeah. so you look at the political actors through this confirmation process and they have been the ones who have been really failing. you look at what donald trump did just there, attacking the accusers. you look at mitch mcconnell yesterday talking about the assistant that they brought in to question the accusers tomorrow and to question judge kavanaugh. this has just been a complete misplay from the politicians on the republican side, the male politicians, and they re supposed to be guiding someone who isn t a political actor, judge kavanaugh, through the process and their missteps may well blow this process. to your point, i mean, look at how excited he was to talk about that, compared to how he was reading that speech. it s just a different type of person almost. this is his wheelhouse. yes. i would say there were two ways for donald trump to deal with the debbie ramirez accusations, assuming that he wants to discredit them, which is very apparent he does. one would be what he did, sort of vicious attack saying suggesting that for some reason if you were inebriated you couldn t possibly account your own sexual assault, which is absurd. the second way would have been, listen, i respect her story, i think she s wrong, let s get to the bottom of it by looking into the facts. and that would have been the sober-minded way to do this. i can t get over the fact that the republican party simply has refused to take that second route with respect to dr. ford as well. we are talking about this, but if you were accused of sexual assault and you knew you were innocent, 100% innocent, you would do everything you could to open up the books on your life. you would call every single person forward, have them testimony, you would ask if not demand for an independent investigation because you would have nothing to hide. and the reason you would do this especially in the circumstances because this is not a criminal trial, this is a political trial and if kavanaugh ends up on the supreme court he needs to bring with him some credibility so the institution of the court is maintained. if he does that under this cloud and with a 50/50 vote in the senate, we are talking about the potential of institutional damage to the reputation of the supreme court and no one is actually processing this. wow. who would want to damage our institutions? i wonder. sam is making the case, you, joe and i have been making for a week and a half. if you re brett kavanaugh and you are adamant that this didn t happen, wouldn t you want a third party, perhaps the fbi, to look into this and let them state unequivocally that it didn t happen if, in fact, it didn t happen, but we are far beyond the point of an fbi investigation, we will have a vote on friday morning. a new poll released this morning says there are high stakes for tomorrow s supreme court hearing as if we didn t know that already. 58% of americans tell the npr pbs news hour marist poll they plan to pay attention to the testimony. the poll conducted saturday through monday finds the nation is closely divided on kavanaugh s nomination with 43% opposed, 38% in support and 19% undecided. concerning christine blasey ford s allegation, 32% believe dr. ford, 26% believe judge kavanaugh and 42% are unsure. when asked if the allegation proves to the true, 59% say the senate should not confirm him, while 29% believe he should be confirmed regardless. jeremy peters and then peter baker, what is the white house seeing in those numbers? what is the white house seeing in this conversation has its developed over the last week? as we just showed the president s posture has changed completely. he was on message, he wasn t going after dr. ford, he wasn t going after ms. ramirez, he had been kept sort of in line by i guess kellyanne conway and others who set the tone and said this woman should be heard, should not be mocked or ridicul ridiculed. what changed? that would be one way to handle it and certainly it was the way that trump and a lot of other republicans were handling this until the pressure from the right, the conservatives and a lot of other more kind of hard right politicians started to really weigh on senate republicans. you go online, you listen to talk radio, what you re hearing is confirm him now. we don t care what these women say, we don t think they re being honest, they are being paid by the democrats, george soros is involved, all of these liberal boogie men are involved in a conspiracy to take out judge kavanaugh. and that has really had its effect. i don t think that you would have seen senator mcconnell call for a vote as quickly as he did if that pressure had not materialized. what you re hearing now more and more from the right is, look, if republicans don t push this through and confirm him, you can kiss the senate good-bye because our voters are going to stay home. i really do think there is some truth to that, though i think republicans probably lose either way because if they ram this through it s going to look so bad with the independent voters that they need, but it s also going to look really bad and probably sway the opinion of the people like lisa lurk ski and susan collins and jeff flake who ultimately matter in whether or not kavanaugh is confirmed. in her interview with the new york times to my colleague the other day, lisa murkowski could not have been clearer in saying don t rush this. do not rush me. i need to hear from the accusers and i want to make up my own mind. i don t think that s a place where enough republicans are operating from right now. peter baker, the president s posture last week was judge kavanaugh is a good man, he is a man of integrity, but i believe dr. ford should be heard. that has completely changed this week. what was the pivot point do you think? yeah, it has changed this week. i think jeremy is right, obviously that this has become a galvanizer issue on the right among the base, there is a feeling of resentment and a feeling of anger, grievance and a sense that this is one of our nominees and they re going after him. on top of the political pressure i think there is a sense among republicans both in the white house and in the senate that they are being played in some way, that this is n fact it s not just rhetoric to say that it s democratic plot. there is a feeling among republicans that they have, you know, somehow been on the receiving end of a dirty trick in effect because the issue did not come up until the end of the process rather than in july when dr. blasey ford first wrote her letter to senator feinstein. senator feinstein said she didn t bring this up because dr. blasey ford asked for confidentiality, but there is a raw feeling right now, neither party trusts each other, both parties look at each other in the most suspicious and most nefarious terms so that when something comes up like this it must be part of a plot rather than, you know, sort of a human kind of situation where a particular woman in california, a professor, you know, struggling with whether to come forward or not and so i think those raw feelings have animated this president, he wants to be more aggressive, he wants judge kavanaugh to be more aggressive. he thought the other night on fox that judge kavanaugh wasn t strong enough and he s telling him when he gets up there tomorrow the senate judiciary committee he needs to be more forceful in his response to this. i just don t understand, you know, after anita hill and everything that you would think republicans have learned, why, he wi elise, there couldn t be a negative reaction about what president trump said about the second accuser. by the way, you can be angry at democrats and you can think there s a plot, think it s dirty pool, but you still have to respond in a way where your constituents understand that you have a sense of respect for women, that you take something seriously and that you re not a misogynist. i feel on many levels it s a fail, fail, if a i will. i think peter baker identified exactly that, the fact that president trump thinks that judge kavanaugh needs to be more aggressive and more attacking. good gracious. it s exactly the wrong strategy and it has been the white house s strategy to try to trump-a-fy someone who is anything but the man that i knew who worked at the white house was a serious scholar, a serious person, he was great. i, you know, had no issues whatsoever and think so highly of him as a mentor to women, and these allegations he could build upon that history in his defense, but instead the white house is attempting to trump-a-fy someone who isn t that. donald trump has faced these accusations himself from multiple, multiple women and what he has done is he has gone on the counterattack time and time again and i think what he has internalized is that he did it, it worked, he s president and therefore brett kavanaugh should follow that playbook. i think it s as simple as that. that s all true expect one of the underlying issues is for the first time in my memory you have a whole republican party, there are only 100 united states senators, they were elected for six-year terms and you have 51 republican senators who are motivated on a daily basis by fear of twitter, right wing radio stations and a minority instead of focusing on the country, on the future of the republican on the supreme court, they re motivated by fear. they are afraid. so fear of a man who paid a porn star to be quiet, a playboy bunny, who brags about assaulting women. you are afraid of that? you should maybe step up for what s right, it would feel a lot better. be better for the country. peter baker, jeremy peters, thank you both. still ahead on morning joe, she sums up the president s message to the u.n. as, quote, it s every country for itself. nbc s chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell joins the table next on morning joe. - [announcer] the typical vacuum head can struggle with large debris and stuck-on dust, so shark invented duoclean, replacing the front wall with a rotating soft brush. while deep cleaning carpets, two brush rolls pick up large particles with ease, make quick work of stuck-on dust, giving hard floors a polished look, and fearlessly devour piles. shark duoclean technology, designed to do more on carpets and floors, available in corded and cord-free vacuums, and only available from shark. on carpets and floors, available in corded .ancestrydna can pinpoint where your ancestors are from. .and the paths they took, to a new home. could their journey inspire yours? 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[ laughter ] i didn t expect that reaction, but that s okay. i don t think it is, actually, but it turns out president trump was correct, the world is laughing at us. joining us now, nba news chief foreign affairs correspondent and host of andrea mitchell reports , andrea mitchell, and the director, president and ceo of the wilson center jane harman, she served nine terms nine terms in congress. and survived. a life sentence. honestly. we have so much to talk about. brett kavanaugh obviously, but, you know, i guess trump got it later because apparently he s very upset that the world is laughing at us and he didn t know? the spin afterward was that it was written as a laugh line. clearly it wasn t. andrea, you ve covered a couple of these speeches in the general assembly. just a few. have you ever seen anything like that? no. we ve had times when american presidents have come in and the world because of the general assembly definitely not being, you know, pro america when it comes to our iraq policy, our middle east policy, a lot of other policies, you know, palestinian issues with israel. so there have been problems before, but they ever like this. the atlantic alliance is the underplayed story is completely fractured. here our closest allies, he s criticizing angela merkel and no criticism of vladimir putin who attacked our elections. on the very day that theresa may was in the general assembly with a very strong statement about the sk the skripal attack. we are still in talks with trade with canada, our close partner, and the fact that he came out and basically said every nation for itself, you know, this was a steve bannon speech without steve bannon, written by steve miller. he is a comedy writer. i don t know if you know in his other life. the writing was so bad, number one, but the thought process. what i really challenge is the philosophy that we give foreign aid only to those people that support us, it s not in our national interest, and out of the u.n., the human rights commission council has had problems, but out of all of these agencies zeroing out palestinian refugee aid through the u.n. agencies. what does that say? into meetings with palestinians this week. david ignatius is still with us and he s got a question for jane harman. david? probably almost every day of the week. i cannot hear. what are you hearing from people overseas as they come to visit you in washington, what are you hearing them say about this administration, this foreign policy? so what are you hearing from world leaders, from overseas, about this administration s foreign policy, especially from your perspective at the wilson center? well, thank you for that question, david. i travel a lot for the wilson center and, by the way, nine terms in congress was a long time into that s a long time, jane. elected in the year of the woman, 1992. awesome. where anita hill was the searing image. i won in a lean republican seat because maureen reagan lost, she was pro choice, the other candidate was anti-choice and all the republican women came on over to support me. there s the message right there for republicans. listen up, everybody. it s a big deal that s going on this week. but international leaders were baffled and terrified for a while. i actually think they re now doing work around. i went yesterday in the gridlock and rain to hear president moon and to hear president trudeau and they all said nice enough things about president trump but then they launched on what their agenda is and what that tells me is the shock and awe factor has faded from president trump s rhetoric. there are things going on here, the korea thing is, i think, very complex and i m worried that we will make an inadequate deal with north korea and south korea, which is a problem, but to david s point, world leaders, i think, went through a period of fear and i think i think they are now brave enough, like theresa may, to state their own priorities here. they are laughing out loud. well, they re filling the vacuum which is what everyone predicted would happen when the united states chose not to lead under donald trump. i guess what was most upsetting to me about that speech was what did it actually say? principled realism? what does that mean? exactly. it s just total nonsense that i can t believe it got cleared by the national security council to go forward. this meaningful hodgepodge of nonpriorities. i just it s really embarrassing for me that the president of the united states delivered that kind of speech at such a major international forum. another grades was we reject globalism, we are in favor of patriotism. what does that mean? none of these phrases really had any content except when he said, you know, with e rk, we ve been advantage of too long. he s basically saying for 70 years the burden sharing that is the appropriate role for erk ma, think of the marshall plan, think of everything that we ve done throughout history that has stabilized global economies and made us stronger economically and militarily. jane, is there anything positive that you can draw from this president s foreign policy? i think especially pertaining to north korea where a year ago we were in a pretty bad place. i agree. and kudos to nikki haley who has done a really good job up here. she s amazing. she s on the trump message but she s also a welcoming figure and a very capable, i think, ambassador to the u.n. and to mike pompeo who is, i think, in his way he is up here, too, so far as i know, but projecting, you know really helping president trump. on north korea what i m worried about is that the south korean agenda and our agenda are not totally aligned. south korea wants integration of the country after all these years and president moon seems very capable and focused on that. we want really denuclearization in a much more profound way that than they care about and there are underground facilities there. let us not take our troops away from the dmz by an unnecessary and too early declaration of truce from the korean war. jane harmon, i want to get your insight into what is going on with the brett kavanaugh nomination process, the accusations against him, the process of having these women heard. you mentioned exactly how you were launched into congress. why are there so many repeats happening here? what s the message for republicans? well, the message for republicans is you have daughters who went to high school, too, listen to your daughters and possibly they haven t gone to high school yet, i have two daughters and two sons who went to high school, it was a traumatic time for everyone, none of them had the experiences that are alleged to have happened here, but i think the country, maybe the world, has woken up to what the problems women have faced for a generation and i think it s going to be a very, very hard vote for some people in congress. it matters what tomorrow looks like and what the witness looks like and that they had to import a woman to question her says a lot about the house the senate judiciary committee. why have there never been women republicans on the committee? it s really time for us to get over at least this challenge. you would think. to equality, gender equality. i worry about the format. not only the woman questioner who is a trained prosecutor and is trained not to be getting facts but to be prosecuting a witness and so if dr. ford is being treated as someone who is on trial here, rather than as a fact witness, that s a real problem. but the real problem is as well the format. one round apiece of five minutes. you can t ask questions and follow-ups and do a decent job of the democrats as well as the republicans. jane, just politically would it be smart for the republicans to say we need an fbi investigation at this point? absolutely. this should have happened, it should have been expanded last week and i don t know how long it would take to do it. i mean, it was 35 years ago, memories are probably fleeting at least you would have the most effort possible to find the facts. somebody is going to channel the john mccain moment and say process matters and vote no on that basis. andrea, stay with us if you can. jane harman, thank you so much. great to see you. still ahead, we will talk to one of the republicans on the senate judiciary committee ahead of tomorrow s highly anticipated hearing with judge brett kavanaugh and one of his accusers. senator john kennedy joins the conversation next on morning joe. every day, people are fighting type 2 diabetes with food, family and farxiga, the pill that starts with f . farxiga, along with diet and exercise, helps lower aic in adults with type 2 diabetes, it s one pill a day. and although it s not a weight-loss drug, it may help you lose weight. do not take if allergic to farxiga. if you experience symptoms of a serious allergic reaction such as rash, swelling, difficulty breathing or swallowing, stop taking and seek 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member of the judiciary committee senator john kennedy of louisiana. we really appreciate your coming on the show this morning. andrea mitchell has the first question. senator, great to see you again. same here. a lot of people are questioning the process here. why schedule a vote you ve heard from the witnesses, what s the rush. also i ve watched you in hearings, you ask great questions, so why are you going to rely on this prosecutor from arizona, a woman, when senators are elected to find facts themselves, that s your job, you do a great job with it? let me ask answer your last question first. sure. ms. mitchell. i only speak for myself. dr. ford through her counsel was very insistent that we not allow the hearing to be hijacked with theatrics, like the confirmation hearing was in my judgment. we talked about it among ourselves, we meaning the republicans on the committee, and decided that given the amount of time that we have, dr. ford also insisted on just one round of questions, that we would hire somebody who has expertise in trying to ferret out the facts in a case where sexual assault has been alleged. i don t know that every committee member has given up the right to ask questions, but i know i intend to defer to i can t remember the name of the prosecutor, ms. mitchell, i think. no relation. yeah. it was in part at dr. ford s suggestion, though i don t want to mislead you, she didn t suggest we hire an attorney, but we felt like with the amount of time we have, we each have five minutes, which is not much time at all, but dr. ford wanted one round, she asked for frequent breaks, we re going to do it in a smaller room at her request, one camera, and i m repeating myself, but one round of questions. so i will follow up just so, you know, kind of keep it open positive conversation here, i ve been very vocal about how the media could do better covering this story. i feel like a lot of people are kind of going out on a limb an convicting brett kavanaugh or smearing the accusers and it s happening in the media and it s a struggle, but are there areas where the republicans could do better in this and especially on the judiciary committee in terms of handling accusers in situations like this and in this specific situation? well, i think there are areas where we could all do better, not just the politicians, but america. this is no country in my judgment for creepy old men or young men or middle-aged men, but this is also no country to ignore due process. some of my colleagues have suggested and i ve tried to understand their point of view that you re morally tainted if you don t automatically believe the accuser. i don t agree with that. i think you re morally tainted if you don t take the accuser seriously, if you don t afford the accuser and the accused an attentive ear, fairness and due process. i realize reasonable fair-minded people disagree, but that s what we ve tried to do here. yeah. that s one of the reasons we re having the hearing and we are doing it i don t want to overstate this, but a lot of the rules have been set by dr. ford s counsel. right. so i m hearing you on fairness and due process and i m hearing you on responding to the requests by dr. ford s counsel, but why a vote on friday, 24 hours after the hearings and why not just to sort of really go for fairness here and the biggest effort toward the truth, why not an fbi investigation? let me answer the hearing venue and time first. i asked about that. we are required the rules require us to give three days notice to have what s called a markup which is senate-ese for saying a vote. i think senator grassley was doing that to start the time running. number two, the deadline that i ve always worked with has been october 1. my goal has been to have a decision made by october 1, which of course is the date that the united states supreme court begins its new session. now, in terms of the fbi, i don t have enough information to ask for an fbi report. in fact, i don t have any information firsthand. all the information that i have, and i think most of us have, comes from an article that dr. ford gave that ult ready from an interview she gave in the washington post. i m not criticizing the washington post, but i need to hear from dr. ford firsthand. point two, staff, both minority and majority staff for senate committees investigate allegations, alleged facts, all the time. we don t normally go to the fbi. we have a very good and not inexpensive majority staff and minority staff that are investigating all of these claims right now. now, senator feinstein has instructed the minority staff not to participate. that s her call. but i don t want people to think these allegations by dr. ford or ms. ramirez or i can t think of his name stormy daniels counsel. avenatti. mr. avenatti or whoever else makes allegations, they are going to be investigated and they are being investigated. but i want to hear from dr. ford. some people suggested that this is not regular order, some people normally when confirmation is over and someone comes forth with information you turn it over to your staffs, they investigate and report back to us written in written form. some suggested that s the way we do it, i asked to have a hearing and many others did as well and i hope dr. ford comes tomorrow. i don t want her i mean, i told you why i agreed to hire the special counsel, if you will. i m not giving our special counsel instructions to go cat woman or batman on dr. ford. that s not the purpose. the purpose is to elicit the information. senator, it s willie geist. we appreciate you taking the time with us this morning. you bet. you said after judge kavanaugh s initial testimony after he finished those three days of testimony, quote, i m going to vote happily and proudly to confirm him. yes. are you open to the possibility, senator, that by the end of the day tomorrow based on what you hear from dr. ford you could be a no vote on judge kavanaugh? well, of course. that s the purpose of the hearing. now, i believe judge kavanaugh. i ve spoken directly to judge kavanaugh. i ve asked him point-blank. he is resolute. he s determined. he s not mad at anybody, he didn t speak ugly about anyone, willie, but he told me categorically unconditionally did not happen. i believe him, but that doesn t mean that i could not be persuaded otherwise. i really want to hear from dr. ford and accord her of the respect and the due process that she deserves as well as judge kavanaugh. i want to treat dr. ford as if she were my daughter, but i want to treat judge kavanaugh as if he were my son here. there you go. and on the other side of it you said unequivocally judge kavanaugh says he didn t do it, dr. ford said it happened so how do you balance those two claims? i don t know if this will be a discussion of the truth as much as it will be an analysis of the memory. it happened a long time ago. i can tell you how my mind works, my memory is not like a computer file that i can call up with perfect retrieval. my mind is selective when i think back 30 or 40 years ago. my stroll down memory lane is kind of a lurch down memory lane, there are gaps in some of thigh memories when i try to reconstruct things, sometimes i fill them in with what i think is the truth, i can t be 100% certain it s the truth. i think most of us have that experience. 35, 40 years ago is a long, long time ago. i think we have to take that into consideration for both dr. ford and judge kavanaugh. and with all that in mind, senator, you know how this is going to play out. we ve seen this. whatever happens tomorrow democrats and progressives will say it s conclusive dr. ford is telling the truth, a lot of conservatives and republicans as you know will say we stand with judge kavanaugh. so with that, wouldn t it be smart and proper to have a third party look into this just to set the record straight and if you re judge kavanaugh wouldn t you want that record set straight by somebody so he could say, don t take my word for it, take the fbi s word for it. well, that s a fair point and that s what the majority staff and the minority staff, the republican and democrat staff are supposed to do together. but to your point, willie, and it s a good one, anybody who has been watching this and who has the sense that god gave a goose can understand that this whole thing has been marbled with politics. there haven t been many lincoln moments in this. i go back to the original confirmation hearing with senators interrupting senators and talking over each other and 240 protesters. i hope that tomorrow does not end up like the original confirmation hearing did. i was embarrassed for us, quite frankly. so are you you know, i agree the process has across the board gotten difficult to watch and difficult to cover. and if i can say this, mika, and the supreme court in the minds of many fair-minded americans has become politicized. and do you know whose fault that is, in my judgment, primarily the united states congress, because we keep punting on the tough issues. nobody around here wants to be a senator and take a tough vote. yeah. don t disagree. so on the issue of fairness and some of the words you said are inspiring this question, but if you hear something that really does sew doubt in your mind about brett kavanaugh s claim that he did not do this, are yo calling for or supporting an fbi investigation if you hear something tomorrow that truly concerns you? sure? . i wouldn t go to the hearing otherwise, this is not a done deal for me but i don t want to bubble wrap this. i think this is going to be very difficult to determine the truth. i have spoke within brett kavanaugh. i have the advantage i guess of having watched him through 32 hours of testimony. i ve read many of his opinions and law view articles, i believe him but that doesn t mean that i m not prepared to be persuade bid dr. ford and to listen to her attentively. let me say it again. i want a country without creepy old men but wu w due process. i hear you, and what you re saying is you want to hear her this is fair and that s all i think we can ask for. david ignatius has a question for you, senator. david? senator kennedy. you said that this process historically has been marbled with politics, that was a good phrase. i want to ask you a question i think a lot of people are wondering. this is a lifetime appointment to the court. what s the rush? why have this artificial timeline for voting and getting it done so quickly when there are obvious profound questions. why the need to do it so quickly? a couple reasons. first i think we have to accept reality. there are people on both sides of this nomination who are in good faith, there are people on both sides of this nomination who are not in good faith. it s about power. it s about truth or memory or fairness. that s just reality. number two, i have always believed that we should have someone in place by october 1. i don t think it s fair to have people, litigants, spend a lot of money on important questions to get a kiets united states su court and end up with a 4-4 tie. that s not what our founders intended. that s what s driven me. i will say, i m not impugning her motives but i m disappointed that senator feinstein did not bring these allegations, redacted protecting dr. ford s anonymity to us earlier. i think this would have been a much different process. now she has her reasons and i like dianne, she s smarter than me, she s more experienced than me certainly for sure and she has her reasons but i will tell you i bet in her heart if she had it to do other again she would do it differently. andrea mitchell. one question senator about another accuser debra ramirez who said the president was inebriated and all messed up. she was to many accounts trying to be honest about her memory and how she was inebriated but there are other supporting witnesses to her character. hur lawyer has tried to get in touch with the grassley committee and keeps getting put off. the staff keeps saying they will get back to her but she s had no opportunity to speak to the staff and what wouldn t the committee want to hear from her privately, publicly, whatever, talk to her attorneys, hear her story before a vote takes place on friday? that s not what the staff tells me, andrea and again i m talking to the staff appointed by senator grassley because the staff appointed by senator feinstein has been instructed not to participate but i asked point blank our staff and i was told our staff tried repeatedly to reach ms. ramirez s counsel, they finally got through to the counsel, the counsel said we don t have a statement to make, read the new yorker. well, i have read the new yorker, it s the only information i have a to go on. as i understand it no one there were a lot of people at the alleged party. no one either recalls it or says it happened that ms. ram ram s best friend through her four years at yale never recalls ms. ramirez talking about this. i ve never met ms. ramirez, i m not calling her a liar but i was told to go read the new yorker. with all due respect, my constitution does not say the new yorker gets to advise and consent, it says the senate does and that s why i want to hear firsthand on all of this information but there s got to be a modded couple of cooperation. i really appreciate this interview, this has been fascinating and i urge people on both sides of the issue no matter who you support or what side of the aisle you re on to watch this again. we re all considering the position these women are in. it s tough. it s tough. you re also in a position where you have to make a decision on it and we appreciate your candor this morning. well, thank you, i ve enjoyed it. senator john kennedy, thank you very much. i would add in while we ve been talking here the attorney for debbie ramirez talking to savannah said she would be willing to testify and he said it wouldn t surprise me if she would do it without the promise of an fbi investigation. the other aspect of the interview and senator kennedy is a fair man, you can tell he s a fair man by his appearance this morning but he was going on about how he hates to see the supreme court engaged in 4-4 ties. i realize he was not in the united states senate when this occurred but merrick garland sat on the sidelines without a hearing for nine months. there is a lot of things to consider, why you can t sync something out in a minute or less. you have to let a conversation draw. there s a lot of challenges here. coming up, from the supreme court controversy to the russia investigation, we ll see what voters in one of america s toss-up districts are saying about the drama playing out in washington. morning joe is coming right back. look at that beautiful smart powerful woman. she loves him. and you on the left. she has a big heart. she s a great philanthropist. know your value, mike. congratulations. happy anniversary. thank you to my wife. that is quite a feat. amazing, i have chills. still ahead, name a veteran prosecutor, a republican, alex? tell me? oh, republicans name a prosecutor to question brett kavanaugh and his accuser tomorrow or, as senate majority leader mitch mcconnell calls her, an assistant. that was a slip. plus, the president s applause like at campaign rallies becomes a laugh line at the u.n. general assembly. we ll discuss the affect donald trump is having on america s image abroad. morning joe is coming right back. sometimes, the pressures of today s world can make it tough to take care of yourself. but nature s bounty has innovative ways to help you maintain balance and help keep you active and well-rested. because hey, tomorrow s coming up fast. nature s bounty. because you re better off healthy. in less than two years, my administration has accomplished more than almost any administration in the history of our country. america [ laughter ] so true. didn t expect that reaction but that s okay. we ll start to show right there. what works on the campaign trail doesn t necessarily work at the united nations. good morning and welcome to morning joe. it s wednesday, september 26. joe is off today. with us we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle. politics editor for the daily beast, sam stein, author zaneb salby. also rick tyler and columnist and associate editor for the washington post david ignatius. a lot to get to. especially the brett kavanaugh hearings and potentially a vote on friday. but what do you think about this clip? they were opening laughing at donald trump at his tweets, his lies, his reality show policies. aren t they? the world is laughing at the president of the united states. david ignatius, i ll start with you. the consequences are no laughing matter, are they? consequences are serious. the united states has been used to unquestioned leader sfwhip the world. the u.n. general assembly meeting every september was a symbol of that. what i thought we saw in watching president trump s speech was reality tv for real the reality is this president came before the body and makes the statement he made routinely, i ve been more successful than almost any administration. and from that world body he had he received spontaneous laughter at that claim. even trump in an unusual moment had to acknowledge it that wasn t the reaction i was expecting. but it s a snapshot of where the world is right now. the united states in two years has significantly changed his positi position. the united states was pulling him out of the u.n. human rights commission. he was citing those as an advantage of his policy. the rest of the world for the most part feels very differently. interest iing if you look at the content of the speech, it s not unlike the stephen miller policy around the world. as someone what who had someone laugh at them, it hurts. i feel bad for trump. no, i don t. one of the themes is that the u.s. had become a laughing stock. he talked about how people are laughing at us. now it s happened and for him it has to be galling, it has to be frustrating and embarrassing. then i think this is the personification of his foreign policy. he wants the isolation. his whole thing is america first. the consequences of that may be laughter but it s also putting us in a different place than the rest of the world. the speech was geared towards that. it was about everyone respecting their own sovereignty. about setting up an international patronage system in which people had to show us respect in exchange for us helping them. yesterday s performance by mr. trump at the yai t united nations, you can view it as a portion of a long-playing tv series which he set up in his mind. you have the speech. but if you frame in the this sense, that a year ago when he stood up and rocket man from the u.n. podium and everything like that, many of the delegates that arrive here from around the globe were shocked, were taken aback at both the lack of decorum and what they viewed as the lack of quality in terms of public speaking. until yesterday they have the contrast one year later they snicker and laugh at donald trump on the poed yum podium. they ve come here once again looking for a country that they feel is lost and that count i have america. for me the laughter was the least concerning thing of his speech. his speech was a scarry speech. he reordered how we deal with the world. he called countries like saudi arabia who is committing mass atrocities in yemen as good people. it s almost describing the world in a completely different reality so he just legitimized some dictatorships. this is reducing america s power and this speech is a serious on one. i think somewhat surprised but some were scared. you have the germans laughing on his claim that they would be dependent on russia gas which is not true. you have king abdullah of jordan taking it seriously because it impacts his country. you have people taking him seriously and you have people laughing but it was a scary speech in international relations, he s underestimating the meaning of diplomacy and underestimating how much work has been done to bring the world together. he single-handedly destroyed is. that stitch by stitch. we ll show more of a president s speech later on. but to our other top story, the senate judiciary committee will vote on brett kavanaugh s nomination to the supreme court just hours after he and christine blasey ford will testify in front of the committee about an alleged sexual assault that took place more than 30 years ago. chairman chuck grassley said yesterday that if the committee is ready, it may hold a vote on kavanaugh on friday at 9:30 a.m. senate republicans are under pressure from the white house to move kavanaugh through the final stages of his nomination to the supreme court. majority leader mitch mcconnell has warned his clooegs polleagu he has plans to hold a floor vote on kavanaugh no matter what happens in the senate judiciary committee and as soon as next week. though kavanaugh s fate is uncertain, mcconnell said he is confident going into a vote. we re going to move forward. i m confident we re going to win. confident he will be confirmed in the near future. meanwhile, president trump is speaking out on his supreme court nominee s second accuser, slamming debra ramirez s credibility while also congressional democrats of playing a game against the allegations of brett kavanaugh. the second accuser has nothing. the second accuser doesn t even though she thinks maybe it could have been him, she admits maybe he was drunk. she admits time lapses, there were time lapses. they re con artists. they don t believe it themselves. they know he s a high quality person. they don t believe it. it s just resist and obstruct. they re playing a con game and they play it very well. it can not be allowed to happen and the democrats are playing a con game, c-o-n, a con game. and they know it s a con game. they know he s high quality and they wink at each other, they re winking. they know it s a con game. what he said about the accuser is disgusting but willie, i guess we can back up. he called a female sex crimes prosecutor who will be doing the questioning tomorrow an assistant. some are small gails but my god, come on, get it right. the president stayed on message for several days. the white house, his senior aides have said you can t go after the women. you can say what you want, that brett kavanaugh is a good man that you believe that. but you can t go after the women. he threw that completely out the window yesterday. as mika said, the judiciary committee has rachel mitchell, a highly esteemed sex krooims prosecu crimes prosecutor to do the questioning of dr. ford and judge brett kavanaugh tomorrow. how is the dynamic different than it was this time yesterday. hard to know. i think this process has been real really. wily in this world where it doesn t matter who is telling the truth, everybody has weighed in and we haven t heard from witnesses so i think it s probably appropriate let s have the vote on friday morning and after this has happened and we ll see what comes out of it. but it s remarkable to me that everybody has this conclusion on one side of the other based on whether it helps my team, the republicans, or my team, the democrats, without hearing from dr. blasey ford. why are we coming to these conclusions first and not later? because this process is not designed to get at the truth. up next, a first look at what professor christine blasey ford is offering the senate to back up her assault claim against judge brett kavanaugh. we ll have is that report straight ahead. but first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. bill? good morning, mika. yesterday what a mess with the heavy rain for that evening commute outside of new york city. first let s go to bayonne, new jersey, and this is what we tell you a million times. this is why flooding kills the most people in this country is that people try to drive through stuff like this. they have no clue what the road looks like underneath it, whether it s been washed out. in southern connecticut, there were about eight inches of rain. i-95 was a river at one point. this is derby, connecticut. it improved for the morning commute but yesterday was a mess. we have a humid air mass, it s been a cloudy and wet september in the eastern half of the country. it continues today. it s pouring in northern alabama and the rain is up through ohio. later today it s humid enough and just warm enough that we ll spark severe thunderstorms. wind damage is the primary threat but we may have an isolated tornado this evening in areas of fwhoouch and vermont. it s not often i say that so we ll see how that materializes, hopefully it won t. but 47 million people at risk. not everyone will get hit. the big cities are the timing for the 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confirmation hearing. usa today reports it has obtained sworn declarations of four witnesses three friends and ford s husband saying her attorney shared with the senate judiciary committee in seeking to corroborate her claim that judge brett kavanaugh assaulted her when they were teenagers, a story kavanaugh denies. quoting from the report in her declaration, ford s friend said ford told her about the alleged assault during a june, 2013, meal and contacted ford s attorneys on september 16 of this year to tell them ford had confided in her five years ago. in that declaration she writes during our meal, christine was visibly upset so i asked her what was going on. christine told me she had been having a hard day because she was thinking about an assault she experienced when she was much younger. she said she will be almost raped by someone who was now a federal judge. she told me she d been trapped in a room with two drunken guys and she escaped, ran away and hid. remember, that s june, 2013. more from the usa today report on the sworn dwlaigs ofeclarati. ford. keith koegler said ford revealed the assault to him in 2016 when they were discussing the sentence of brock turner. she said she was particularly bothered by it because she was assaulted in high school by a man who is now a federal judge in washington, d.c. on june 29, ten days before kavanaugh s nomination, koegler said ford revealed to him in an e-mail that the person who assaulted to her in high was president trump s quote favorite for scotus. he wrote i remember you told me about him but i don t remember his name. can you tell me about him so i can read about him? ford s response, brett kavanaugh. another declaration from rebecca white, a neighbor of dr. ford, also recalling ford sharing her story with her after white wrote a blog post about sexual assault. so this is a new usa today revelation that came in overnight. there s been talk there hasn t been strong corroboration of dr. ford s story. now you have four different people corroborating. and this is the kind of information that will be put on the table. i think it will be a very a difficult day for dr. ford because she s basically going to have to put her life out there to talk about something terrible she believes happened to her and absolutely may have happened to her. but am i using my words correctly? because in i think i feel like in the media especially we have two camps, some who say it has to be believed and that s where you begin and others who just want to report the story to see what s going to happen. what do we do with these allegations in the age of me too. you have an ongoing series on pbs me too, now what? now what with this? we have become cynical and jaded about such stories and what you need to exercise, all of us right now, is respect and compassion for people s integrity. i think a lot of people don t understand that when something happens to you at 16 years old, it does matter. you continue to suffer with it. if you had not been assaulted, think of a car accident that happened to you. you re still suffering physically. this is psychological impact. what we need i feel like there s so much police cal discussion, officersy theory, this and this. what you are missing is psychologists. experts in the field of why this matters to dr. ford as an individual. why this is impacting her life. i believe that if something happened to you at any age it does impact your live and why it matters for america to potentially have a supreme court judge who has his views about women, who has a predatory aggressive view about women. that matters for the future of our country and girls and teenagers no matter who you are so in order to get the truth we need to create safe space tomorrow for her to tell the truth. this is a traumatized person. you cannot just have the senate judiciary committee just grilling her. we need to have respect from her integrity in order to get the truth from her and from him. the entire process needs to be respectful and the politics of this, sam stein, can the republicans even help themselves? just with small little things that might just make them get through the day without being mocked, ridiculed and by the way losing women in the midterms? because this is not that difficult. you can have respect. coming up on morning joe, a republican senator says christine blasey ford is getting a little help. as if brett kavanaugh isn t? that s next on morning joe. - [announcer] the typical vacuum head can struggle with large debris and stuck-on dust, so shark invented duoclean, replacing the front wall with a rotating soft brush. while deep cleaning carpets, two brush rolls pick up large particles with ease, make quick work of stuck-on dust, giving hard floors a polished look, and fearlessly devour piles. shark duoclean technology, designed to do more on carpets and floors, available in corded and cord-free vacuums, and only available from shark. brushing only reaches 25% of 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i want to see the community grow and thrive. every year we work with cities and schools to plant trees in our communities. so the environment is there for my kids and future generations. together, we re building a better california. don t worry about a thing many republicans are standing firm in their support of judge brett kavanaugh and some are publicly rejected the sexual misconduct allegations against him. what we see taking place right now is a pr stunt by the democrats. it is character assassination and this is something that is dirty politics at its worst. even if it s true, does it disqualify him? it certainly mean he is did something bad 36 years ago but does it disqualify him from the supreme court? so you think these women are making it up? they had a little help, i have a feeling. accusations be r being made about things that didn t happen and i think it s very unfortunate. nobody wants to hear what you think, actually. at this point this is an allegation and your answer should be, suir, this is an important thing we need to look at, this is a serious allegation, we need to find out the facts. it s easy to say and you can be respectful. it s easy. i don t know why they have to smear her. i don t know why they have to force a vote on friday and make it completely look like they don t even care what will happen on thursday and sam stein, who calls a female sex crimes prosecutor an assistant at this point? really? i get what you can t talk for yourself, republicans on the judiciary committee, you can t, because you re literally incapable of being respectful or treating women with any sense of that they might have qualifications to be as high-ranking as you. here s mitch mcconnell. an assistant. really. we have hired a female assistant to go on staff and to ask these questions in a respectful and professional way. i can t even. what s wrong with them? i actually think there could be a good reason, sam stein, politically, to have a woman asking the questions. there could be a great way of saying that and he just i don t know. what happened there? he can t look at a woman in any other way but a supportive role that is lower. there s obvious discomfort senate republicans have about this entire process and i think it s been bungled at various points. obviously well, i guess to me it s very odd they are rushing it for that precise reason. it comes off as deeply insensitive to the story of there woman. why not bring in a psychologist as a witness to further bolster the testimony? why not bring in a medical expert in addition to the friends and mark judge, that would create a forum that could be helpful for the confirmation process but also informational about the issue of sexual assault. in the end, though the real damage won t be to brett kavanaugh s supreme court proceedings or not. nothing will encourage future victims of sexual assault from coming forward if the person they re accusing is a person of privilege or power because we ve witnessed that institutions and partisanship will always be against you. donald trump is the most powerful man in the world. for them to go after debbie ramirez, at the point of her most intentional vulnerability, is jarring and it will have ramification for years to come for people who have been victimized by sexual assault and feel they need to come forward but look at what s happening to her and say i can t do that. coming up, who s ahead in the u.s. senate race for texas senate. depends on the day, i guess. polling shows a tight race between ted cruz and beto o rorko o rourke. only half the story? at t. rowe price our experts go beyond the numbers to examine investment opportunities firsthand. like e-commerce spurring cardboard demand. the pursuit of allergy-free peanuts. and mobile payment reaching new markets. this is strategic investing. because your investments deserve the full story. t.rowe price. invest with confidence. to take care of yourself. but nature s bounty has 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democratic senator sherrod brown has pulled away with a 13-point lead against congressman jim renacci, 52% to 39% in that state s senate race. in the florida senate race, democratic senator bill nelson has a three-point advantage against his republican challenger governor rick scott, a statistical tie. a poll conducted more recently from quinnipiac found nelson jumping ahead to a seven-point lead with likely voters, 53% to 46%. and in the race for florida s governor, tallahasse mayor andrew gillum leads republican ron desantis by five points, 48% to 43% in the nbc/marist poll. joining us now, columnist at the washington examiner, kristen soltis anderson and here on set, nbc news correspondent jacob soboroff. we ll start with you, jacob. you just got back from texas where you spoke with voters there in one of the state s key tossup districts. what did you find out? it s never what you think. i was down there last week when the kavanaugh allegations were exploded and the russia investigation, twists and turns, everyday. when you ask them what do you care about? it will always blow your mind. watch this, guys. this is a cucumber covered in chili, it s delicious. this is a flea market on the south side and we came here with gina ortiz to find out what people want around here. people want clothing, backpacks, boots. these are nice. my wife asked me to buy boots. these are awesome. hi, gina. reporter: what matters most for you? other than child-sized cowboy boots. my community. reporter: do you go out and vote in elections? not always. not always. reporter: that s a thing around here. i heard not very many people vote. business and kids, it gets hectic. reporter: what would be the thing that gets you fired you have no go vote. to help make a difference, especially for the people in the lower income bracket and so forth. and our people. reporter: when you say our people ? hispanics. reporter: this district is largely hispanic. 71%. it s about how we look after one another and how we invest in the future. reporter: we are on our way from one of the most populated parts of the district, the corner by san antonio where 70% of the voters live to one of the most remote parts, terrorism city, and that s where we ll meet the district s congressman, his name is will hurd. nice to see you. the 23rd district of texas is larger than 26 states, roughly the size of the state of georgia. he s doing 38 stops, 32 different town halls, 14 of which are dairy queens. do you have a preferred order? on my own it s a medium dip co cone. reporter: me, too. but i m a purist. come on, come join us, come join us. what s your question. we re one of the highest unemployment rates in the country. i think you know that. my concern is the streets. reporter: potholes. major problem is is good education for our kids. reporter: why did nobody as the first issue bring up what s going on with the supreme court or russia? i think the issues thaw are being brought up are not only important issues, but they affect us immediately here. these are the things that we know will make a difference tomorrow. what most elected officials and what the media try to cover are not the same conversations you have down here locally. reporter: the other thing nobody brought up with will hurd was the southwest border and his district has a third of it. so we headed down there to eagle pass to see if we could figure out why. we re on the mexico side of the border wall but still in the u.s. it s no-man s-land. we just met frank who works construction but has time off and he s playing golf. that s mexico right there. that s the rio grande. if you can hit the ball far enough, it goes into mexico. let it rip, frank. not quite to mexico but not bad. so what are the big challenges of being a small business guy? things are a little slow. i got people i got to pay. i got material i got to pay. reporter: you need a strong economy in order for your business to be doing well. to be thriving, exactly. reporter: this is the rio grande right here? yeah, right there. reporter: so when you re golfing, are you thinking about, you know, all the politics people talk about with the border? no. reporter: what do you think about? let s go to work. what time is tee time? go golf. first of all cob, he was smart to lay up and then you don t want to go in the river. take out the nine iron then put it into mexico. the rio grande is the drink. love that. so instructive. you hear that district to district, claire mccaskell talks about this in missouri, the concern about obamacare, these are the issues on people s minds. it s not that they don t care about the supreme court or the russia allegations or what s going on with the border. that s something that didn t come up. it s that they don t bring that up first. they bring up potholes, things your continue person can t necessarily influence. that won t be between hurd and ortiz-jones. turnout is terrible. they have the third worst turnout and they need to figure out how to get people to come out if people like beto will win. kristen soltis anderson, this is a state by state, district by district question. but what do you think is motivating people to get out to the polls, particularly on the democratic side. i think on the democratic side there s a desire to get out and send a message about president trump. on the republican side i think voters are motivated to show a sign of support for president trump. this is a question pollsters have asked voters going back midterm after midterm after midterm. is your vote about the issues or the president? support or oppose? this election we re seeing record highs on both sides saying their vote will be about the president for democrats opposed for republicans, support. but i would love to take that package jakob did and show it to as many other folks as i can because i think it underscores a point that has frustrated me the last couple months, this idea that everything that happens in the news cycle. well, is this the thing that will cost republicans the house? is this the thing that will swing these races? it s much more slow burning and it s about pocketbook issues which is why someone like will hurd who has at times distanced himself from the president, made himself an independent voice, is able to be polling so well until a district that hillary clinton did so well in even in an environment that s bad for republicans. there s a chance for members to do the right thing and have their own voice to overcome a political environment. the thing is, the economy, the president continues to trumpet how well the economy is doing but when you go to places like this, people don t have jobs, people are leaving places like eagle pass to try to work in the eagle ford shale and oil business or going to wisconsin or going to wherever. i met all kinds of people where they re it s an older generation of folks and their kids are leaving town because they re not able to get work. so for the president to say the economy is doing great goes over these folks heads. there s also this perception we were doing our own polling on this. there s a perception that while the economy is good, the benefits have been tilted towards the top 1%. the tax cut package especially was supposed to be this great legislative savior for the republican party heading into the midterms and what we ve witnessed now is from an advertising standpoint republicans don t mention it. they don t mention it. from a polling standpoint it s fairly clear the public has concluded that the package was done to benefit the wealthy and i think that is a political killer for this president heading into the midterms because he can point to a good economy. he can point to good economic news but people are perceiving it as something that s benefitted wall street as opposed to main street. so let s look at florida. tell us what these numbers say to you and whether this mayor andrew gillum has enough momentum to help other parallel races happening. well, being up five is better than being even, but certainly what you ve got with this race is a candidate who is still introducing himself to the state of florida, you have ron desantis who is also still introducing himself but he had more of a prominent profile as a very big sort of trump supporter and now has seen this break with president trump. he criticized president trump s comments on hurricane maria because there is a large puerto rican population in the state. so president trump distancing himself from that so if you wind up being the trump guy who nonetheless doesn t have trump s support anymore, that s a really tough place to be. that s a lose-lose proposition. meanwhile, rick scott is generally well liked as governor of florida. bill nelson had been asleep and not campaigning that much. you can see her he has begun to turn his campaign machine on but it s remarkable that a senator who is reasonably well liked as bill nelson in this kind of political environment is facing such a strong threat from rick scott. elise jordan, florida as always is fascinating. well, in this year particularly given the parkland students and their organization and how that issue is ground zero. they got behind andrew gillum and you look at how ron desantis has struggled in this general election to recover from his gaffes and absolutist stance on donald trump and i wonder if we are going to see turnout we haven t seen before in some of these unlikely voters that don t turn out, that s what the progressive left is banking on. how often when you were in texas eating dairy queen it s a chocolate dip. i m jealous. that s a great trip. how often did you hear donald trump s name? is it top of mind? almost never and if it comes up they say i don t feel like i can control what s going on in washington. it s ironically the reason they voted for him in the first place. now that he s in there they say i don t know what s going to happen. i 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[laughter] (vo) go national. go like a pro. see what i did there? we may have to close up our country to get this straight. we either have a country or we don t. you can t allow people to pour into our country the way they re doing. these are the laws passed by democrats so we have open borders. they want open borders. we have to have borders, if you don t have borders you don t have a country. so we re going to have one. that was president trump suggesting closing the country s borders as an alternative to immigration issues. and our next guest also argues for a tighter u.s. immigration policy, executive editor for national review, rihan solemn joins us now. it s great to have you on. thanks for having me. he s the author of the new book melting pot or civil war. great to have you on the show. congratulations on the book. your response to hearing the president speak so just that last sound bite on borders. one thing that s really important to keep in mind is that americans are actually very attuned to whether or not they feel the immigration system is controlled, whether it is managed. they actually are necessarily so sensitive to exactly what the numbers are, they want to be sure it s in the national interest. in you get that right, if you re conveying that the system is controlled, it s managed and being managed in the interests of working americans, whether they re foreign born or native born, by the way, then people feel much better about the system. there s a feeling that this is out of control. and that s at the heart of the issue, i think. there are some democrats, some progressives, but i would say they re on the extreme, who are calling for open borders. but there s not really a chance that that is going to happen. in its purist sense. on the other extreme, you have separating families and putting kids in these detention camps. what s the middle ground between those two extreme positions? for democrats it s a real struggle. a lot of democrats actually want to have a pragmatic position but they feel very pulled by activists who are saying we re not saying open borders, but we will basically attack every enforcement mechanism. you hear people from the obama and clinton administrations who lament this development. on the republican side, similarly, there are a lot of rank and file voters who are saying i just want to be sure this makes sense for us, that we can absorb and integrate newcomers rather than have a system where we re creating burdens we re not willing to do with. some people will promise it s a free lunch. others are saying it s a tricky issue. we need to think about it long term. sam? what if i told you we can construct a universe in which you would clamp down on some employment issues with legal immigration, create a pathway to citizenship, but there would be hurdles. revamp the visa programs and asylum seeker programs and in exchange you would have $40 billion in border security measures to clamp down on those borders. would you take that? i wouldn t take that necessarily, sam. why not? if you look at the gang of eight, for example, what they did is it actually created guest worker programs, temporary work programs that actually are really hard to enforce down the line. it also increased legal levels by quite a lot. if you look at the american public, most folks actually want to keep legal admission levels steady rather than increasing them. don t you think as a general matter that this is the problem with immigration debates is that each side is like, you know what, your position is ridiculous, it s going to create a huge moral void in our country, it will cause problems with employment and there s no middle ground? i honestly think that the gang of eight was probably the sincerest effort. it was middle ground between employers who want low-wage labor and between folks who want amnesty. it was not a middle ground between americans who are concerned about whether or not we have control, whether or not it s in the national interest. and folks on the other side who, myself included, believe that you re going to need some kind of amnesty. it was a fake bipartisan compromise rather than a real bipartisan compromise based on the real divides in the country. and, you know, that s why a lot of elites thought, what s going on here? this is exactly how it s supposed to work. but no, it ignored the actual sentiments. one last question. isn t trying to move forward, though? we re on a status quo that i think no one is happy with. wouldn t it be better to try to move incrementally forward with those types of bills and then maybe improve on them? i don t think you can do that. that s why i say you can t just have a narrow amnesty for dreamers, for example. you need something bigger than that. why? because democrats will not agree to workplace enforcement, to mandatory ever fie unless you have something bigger, unless you do is a law me slicing. donald trump hasn t always been consistent on this issue in a way that s caused a lot of confusion on the republican side. kristen soltis anderson has a question. my question for you is reading your book i was struck by the notion that the way we think of what a compassionate immigration system is, i think, is very different in your view than what is traditionally thought of as a compassionate immigration system. i d like you to talk more about why you think sort of being restrictive about immigration is in any way more compassionate? the really key issue from my perspective is that immigration is not just about immigrants, it s about the children of immigrants as well. what we re seeing right now is that we re not doing a great job of integrating the children of working class immigrants. if you are an immigrant, you re moving from one country to another, you re uprooting yourself, it makes sense for you to do that. you feel i ve bettered my life for doing that. but if you re the kid growing up in a low-income household headed up by an immigrant, you don t necessarily feel grateful, you feel like i m a u.s. citizen, i deserve to be part of middle class. and we re not addressing that. so by fixating solely on this one generation we re losing that multigenerational perspective. that s going to be a big source of tension going forward in my opinion. well, i m just going to give the disclaimer i ve been a long time big fan of yours, and your writing is always provocative. and you re pushing the envelope in terms of going taking the debate to new places. and you really have followed the republican party for quite some time. and so with this book what is your determination about how important immigration is to the future of the republican party? as an issue. what i really want to drive home is that you cannot have a message that demonizes working class people who are first and second generation of the country. if you want to get control, if you want to have a system that works for all americans, you need to bring lots of people in. that means making tough compromises, not compromises that are just in the kind of elite circles, we re going to compromise with, you know, the folks in wall street and what they want to do and what folks on the left want to do. you actually have to bring ordinary folks in, including first and second generation americans, republicans need to get that most of all if they re going to connect with younger folks. all right. elise jordan is officially the official morning joe fan girl. your writing is so provocative. i happen to think she s the greatest too. there you go. there you go. the book is melting pot or civil war? a son of immigrants makes the case against open borders. reihan salam, thank you. and kristen soltis anderson, thank you. very quick final thoughts. i don t think it s an overstatement to say that tomorrow is a significant day in american history, that dr. ford testifying before the senate judiciary committee followed by judge kavanaugh. we heard from senator kennedy, the republican from louisiana, that he is open to changing his vote. he s a yes. he s open to changing his vote based on what he hears tomorrow. yeah, no, that s all i mean, tremendous implications for the supreme court, for how we process issues of sexual assault allegations in this country. you didn t even mention the other fact, which is president trump s meeting with rod rosenstein tomorrow. oh, my gosh, yes. we could potentially witness the defanging of the justice department, the gutting of the justice department and a real constitutional crisis if he goes forward with firing rod rosenstein. everyone has been anticipating that perhaps the testimony tomorrow will lower the temperature a bit. and that s just delusional. because it s going to get even more heated after both sides find their different camps to cling to. sorry to be debbie downer. i m going to end with, the world is laughing at us, literally. so yesterday, i think, was a really significant day. we don t talk enough, i think, about hoour place in the world d what this country has spent so many years building. and what is slowly being chipped away at before our eyes, before the world s eyes. and that is what s happening at this point. that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle, i ll see you in a half an hour. i ll be on your show. she picks up the coverage right now. thank you so much, micah. i look forward to seeing you in a few. we ve got a lot to cover this morning, setting the stage, 25 hours away from the ford/kavanaugh hearing. we now know the details, republicans have appointed an arizona prosecutor as their questioner. as an optimistic grassley schedules a committee vote for friday with some republicans thinking kavanaugh is still a slam dunk. we re going to be moving forward. i m confident we re going to win. the democrats are playing a con game-c-o-n, a con game. more and more republicans are signaling could his confirmation be in question? and no laughing matter, minutes from now the president will be back at the united nations, a day after his speech in front of the general assembly drew a curious reaction. my administration has accomplished more than
this is bbc news. welcome if you re watching here in the uk, on pbs in america or around the globe. i m lewis vaughan jones. our top stories: this is bbc news with the latest headlines remembering george floyd. the first memorial service is held for the man whose death in police custody launched a global movement. george was somebody who was a lwa ys george was somebody who was always welcoming and always made people feel like they were special. everybody wants justice, we want justice special. everybody wants justice, we wantjustice for george. he s going to get it. he s going to get it. two. applause. protests continue in cities across the us. this is washington a few moments ago as crowds gather outside the white house. back in control of tripoli: libya s internationally recognised government says it s driven out forces loyal to general haftar. and we re in indonesia, meeting the last family standing as their village is sinking. hello and welcome. we start in the us. the first of several memorial services have been held in minneapolis to remember the life of george floyd, the 46 year old black man, whose death sparked days of protests across the country and around the world. a lawyer for mr floyd s family said his death was the result of a pandemic of racism and discrimination . from minneapolis, here s barbara plett usher. this is the beginning of a period of official mourning for george floyd, but not the end of his story. a pause for breath after ten traumatic days. the unrest that has shaken the country in the wake of his death seemed to demand a collective display of grief, despite the risks of the coronavirus. # amazing grace. # how sweet the sound. one by one, members of mr floyd s family remembered what he meant to them in life. every day he walks outside, there would be a line of people just like when we came in wanted to greet him and wanted to have fun with him. he was powerful, man. he had a way with words. he could always make you ready to jump and go all the time. everybody loved george. like, he was this great big giant and when he would wrap his arms around you, you would just like, feel like, you know, you were everything could just go away. any problems you had, any concerns you had would go away. but this service was even more about what george floyd s death means to the nation about another black man in a list of so many killed in police custody, about beginning to shape the massive movement for racial justice it ignited. i saw somebody standing in front of a church the other day which had been boarded up as a result of violence, held the bible in his hand. i ve been preaching since i was a little boy. i have never seen anyone hold a bible like that, but i will leave that alone. laughter and applause. the civil rights veteran reverend al sharpton delivered a attack on the president s recent controversial photo op, but he was blistering about the violence of structural racism in the country. what happened to floyd happens every day in this country! in education, in health services, and in every area of american life! it s time for us to stand up in george s name and say get your knee off our necks! let us stand still. you that believe in faith, bow your heads. they were silent for eight minutes and 46 seconds the time that mr floyd spent with a knee on his neck. that number has become a symbol of police brutality for protesters. in new york, another memorial, seeking to build on momentum for change. chant: nojustice, no peace! ..promising that this time will be different. in minneapolis, streets bear the scars of the dark days that followed george floyd s death. residents hunkered down, trying to protect their livelihoods as protests turned violent, laying waste to hundreds of businesses. our lives are black and we matter. but the community has rallied strongly, creating a safe space to support each other, uniting against the forces that would divide them, determined to lead the country in pushing for lasting change. so it can finally be the land of the free. this has been a seminal moment for america to take a look at itself and ask in which direction it is going. barbara plett usher, bbc news, in minneapolis. our north america correspondent david willis was watching the memorial service. a very moving memorial service there in minneapolis, lewis, and we heard there from the reverend al sharpton, who said that it was time for black people to stand up and say get off our necks . and he went on to say that it does not matter if you wear bluejeans or a blue uniform, you must pay for the crime that you commit. thousands of people attended a memorial service for george floyd in new york as well today and there are more protests planned across the united states tonight, but we saw 5,000 people, perhaps more, at rallies both in washington, dc, and here in los angeles. both of those passed off entirely peacefully. and i know much is made of watershed moments in history and so on but, with these protests growing and growing more peaceful, this really is starting to seem like one. that s interesting, david, isn t it? and of course, we pointed out earlier on that this memorial that we saw in barbara s report the first memorial? that s right, yes, indeed. the first of a number over the next six days or so that will culminate in george floyd s funeral, and it seems that perhaps the momentum will grow steadily as those memorial services continue. they are being held in three separate states. but today, very, very big attendance at that one in new york, and as many people as they could possibly cram in to the service in minneapolis. as i say, i think this is the start of something that the reverend al sharpton has said will continue over the summer and beyond until, as he put it, there is reform, genuine reform of the criminal justice system here in america. and on the criminaljustice system, david, let s go back to the original incident and an update on the other police officers that were present at the time. absolutely. three of them appeared in court today, lewis, charged with aiding and abetting the murder of george floyd. no pleas were entered. now, if convicted, those three police officers face up to a0 years injail. 0ne one interesting thing it emerged that two of them, j alexander kueng and thomas lane, had been on the minneapolis police force for less than a week. and they were under the supervision of derek chauvin, the man who was captured on camera with his knee on george floyd s neck. now, mr chauvin is not due to appear in court until monday to face charges of second degree murder. but was david willis there. that was. brian watkins is a civil rights attorney and a legal analyst. hejoins us from san diego in california. thank you very much for being with us. lots of complicated issues legally arise from occasions like this and incidents like this. let s start with the protests, more broadly, though. what has been your reaction to seeing them? you know, this is a very, very tragic event but the one good thing that is coming out of this is the protest is an example of how people can come together. we are having protests here and all throughout the united states, in california, of all races, 70% of the protesters are white people, white, mexicans, as well as african america ns and even asians. we have protests in affluent neighbourhoods and in inner city neighbourhoods. it is something that has really united the people of the united states of america to gather this one because to stop police brutality. together for this one because to stop police brutality. it is not easy of course but what other challenges in trying to reform police incidents like this? it is difficult because we need police and police sometimes need to be physical. i mean, they are dealing with a criminal element and that is theirjob and how do you manage thatis theirjob and how do you manage that is a very difficult thing to do for police and for government to police the police. and so when we have situations where we have criminals that are uncooperative with police and violent towards police, police must in turn use violence to deal with them. so the question is is how can we monitor their actions effectively? 0ne is is how can we monitor their actions effectively? one of the things that needs to happen is the laws, as far as being able to prosecute the police and civilly sue the police comment need to be changed. they have been protected for a long time under something that we call qualified immunity. basically it isa qualified immunity. basically it is a law that allows the police to be immune from civil lawsuits and prosecutions, to an extent. now, no other profession has that. you know ifa profession has that. you know if a doctor messes up he can be sued for medical malpractice and ifa sued for medical malpractice and if a lawyer messes up and does not file your case within the statutory time he is sued for legal malpractice. but the police have qualified immunity and that is a law that is actually being addressed right now to try to get the law changed to make them liable for their actions. i see. changed to make them liable for their actions. isee. i m afraid we re running out of time but i to briefly ask you about body camp footage. i wa nted about body camp footage. i wanted to briefly ask you. bodycam. we have some footage of live of a recent incident but is police, you know, obviously, shot video, protest we believe leaving in their car and being tasered at one point. it is an example of the kind of footage that went out, that we are seeing footage that went out, that we are seeing across footage that went out, that we are seeing across media. what difference will body cam make? it makes a world of difference. you know, one of the biggest thing we had was during the rodney king case in 1992 where the officers were filmed beating a black man. now that was ina beating a black man. now that was in a time period where we did not all have cellphone cameras. it happened to be one person on his balcony playing with his new toy called a camcorder which was a hand held video camera and it had just come out in the early ‘90s and he filmed it and it brought police brutality to light because now people believed it because now people believed it because they saw it on camera and the body cameras will continue to monitor police actions so we don t have to ta ke actions so we don t have to take their word for it as to what happened that we can actually see and judge it for ourselves. brian, thank you so much for speaking to us and we appreciate your time. you. thank you. let s get some of the day s other news. police say they have received hundreds of calls from the public about a new suspect in the madeleine mccann case. german prosecutors say madeleine a 3 year old british girl who disappeared in portugal more than a decade ago is assumed to be dead. german police are investigating a german national previously convicted of sex offences on suspicion of murder. nba basketball is planning a return to the court. the board of governors approved a plan that allows 22 teams to resume the regular season. they intend to play all games without fans, in orlando, florida but the plan still needs approval from the players‘ association. libya s internationally recognised government says it s taken full control of the capital tripoli. the city has been besieged by forces loyal to general khalifa haftar for over a year. rich preston has this report. these burnt out vehicles are all that remain of the forces of general khalifa haftar as government troops celebrated their victory. horns blare. the mission to control the city was deemed a success with the recapture of the airport. it hasn t been used since 2014 but plays a symbolic role he who has the airport has the city. 1a months of fighting have ravaged tripoli. when general haftar‘s eastern libyan forces stormed the city last april, they bombarded it with rockets and artillery, sending ordinary people fleeing for their lives. hundreds were killed in the fighting. gunfire. general haftar had been loyal to the former dictator colonel gaddafi. eight years after he was toppled, many say khalifa haftar wanted to install himself as the new dictator. he had support from russia, the united arab emirates and neighbouring egypt. the internationally recognised gna the government of national accord is backed by turkey and qatar. speaking on a visit to turkey, libya s prime minister said control of tripoli was just the start of a bigger operation. translation: our battle is not over, and we are determined to defeat our enemy and take control of the entire nation, and for the eradication of all those who threatened our democratic free state. translation: turkey will continue to stand with the right side. we will never leave our libyan brothers. our support to libya s recognised government will continue. with its vast oil reserves, libya could be one of the richest countries in the world, but the rule of gaddafi, followed by years of violence, have left the country devoid of infrastructure and security. horn blares. diplomats now want to restart talks to bring about a ceasefire, with hope of long lasting peace for the people of this north african nation which has been ripped apart. rich preston, bbc news. stay with us on bbc news. still to come: pulling down the statues of america s slave owning past: confederate monuments are removed in the wake of protests. the queen and her husband began their royal progress to westminster. the moment of crowning, in accordance with the order of service, by a signal given, the great guns of the tower. tributes have been paid around the world to muhammad ali, who has died at the age of 74. outspoken but rarely outfought, ali transcended the sport of boxing, of which he was three times world champion. he was a good fighter and he fought all the way to the end, even through his illness. yes, he did. uefa imposes an indefinite ban on english clubs playing in europe. today is the 20th anniversary of the release of the beatles‘ lp, sergeant pepper s lonely hearts club band, a record described as the album of the century. this is bbc world news. the latest headlines: the family and friends of george floyd, the african american man who died while being detained by minneapolis police last week have paid tribute to him at his memorial service. the reaction to the death of george floyd has sparked a wave of protests across the us unseen since the 1968 assassination of martin luther king jr. over the course of a decade, dr king became synonymous with non violent direct action as he worked to overturn systemic segregation and racism. what would he have made of the current protests? clayborne carson is martin luther king jnr centennial professor of history at stanford university. i think he would have been very pleased to see young people standing up for american ideals that the nation doesn t live up to often. and, given that, we have had this violence at times, we ve had protests kind of spontaneously springing up. what are the strengths and weaknesses as far as you see, of what is happening right now? well, i think it is mostly the strengths. you know, i think the press sometimes turns too much on looting or vandalism, which has actually been a very minor part of this upsurge of activity. you know, if a few stores had been broken into during the march on washington, i hope that most people would have paid attention to the main thrust of the protest, not to some isolated incidents that have nothing to do with the protest. it s really more, i think, to me, it has to do with the police focusing their attention on peaceful protesters and leaving other potential targets for looters unguarded. so i think it s another example of bad policing. and on the protests again, then, what do you make of leadership in these protests? well, look, any time young people can turn out many times the number of people who were at the march on washington, which was 200,000, and i m absolutely certain that the total number of people turning out in this protest far exceeds that, they have to be highly organised. i think if there is any criticism at all, and it s something i think is part of the strength of the protest, and that s there s no central leader that you could go to. back in 1964 you could go to a couple of people and get their comments and that would represent the thrust of what was going on. today you have people independently organising massive protests in dozens of different cities and hundreds of different towns. so, obviously they know what they re doing. it s just that there are many voices. but i think the central voice is one of ‘let‘s stop this , that this is something that when you think about what it is like to grow up and come of age during a period when literally dozens of people have been killed in police custody, recorded on cellphones. so you have a younger generation that gets their news through social media, and what they ve seen is police out of control and not being held accountable. and any young person knows the difference between being held accountable and not held accountable by your parents, for example. so when you see policeman after policeman either getting acquitted or not even charged with murder, then that is going to cause a reaction. and i am very, very pleased that it s happened. it s long overdue. thanks to professor clayborne carson. the governor of the us state of virginia has ordered a key memorial to the slave owning confederacy to be removed from the capital, richmond. ralph northam said the statue of robert e lee, who commanded the confederate forces during the american civil war, had to come down. the bbc‘s tim allman reports. for more than a century, robert e lee has looked out over the city of richmond. but not for much longer. these protesters voiced their anger at what they see as an ongoing symbol of racial injustice. and state officials 110w seem to agree. yes, that statue has been there for a long time. but it was wrong then, and it is wrong now. so, we re taking it down. robert e lee commanded the forces of the confederate states in their rebellion against the north during the american civil war. some still think of him as a hero, fighting for a lost cause. but even his descendants have come to believe that enough is enough. this statue is a symbol of oppression, and if it is a symbol, it becomes an idol, and if it becomes an idol, i am convinced as a christian, that the idols must be torn down. cheering this issue is hardly new. various statues and symbols of the confederacy have been taken down in recent years. but the protests of the last few days over the killing of george floyd have added an extra sense of urgency. this is a surprise to us, but we re glad, like, they re taking actions and they re taking what we re saying seriously. so we re glad to hear our voices are being heard, finally. the governor says the statue will be removed as soon as possible. but even when it s gone, the legacy of slavery will remain. tim allman, bbc news. friday is world environment day and, to mark it, we re looking at communities tackling the crisis. the world s most populated island is java, in indonesia, but land there is sinking, threatening the lives and livelihoods of millions of people. the destruction of mangrove forests are blamed. only one family remains in the village of bedono and they re trying to save what s left.
you can reach me on twitter i m @ l vaughanjones. this is bbc news. hello there. the warm and sunny days of the start of the week feel like a distant memory now as it s turning to cooler, more unsettled to end the week. friday into the weekend will be cool and showery, longer spells of rain in the north. it s also going to turn unusually windy for this time of year as well. the culprit is this area of low pressure, which has continued to deepen just to the north east of scotland. it will continue to push in during the course of friday, bring some persistent rain across the north. further south, the winds picking up. it will be a blustery day for all with sunny spells but also blustery showers. some of these will be heavy and thundery at times, too. and those winds gusting 30 110 miles an hour. further north, 40 50 miles an hour, even stronger than that by the end of the day and this rain will become persistent and heavy across the north and north east of scotland. don t be surprised as well with these sorts of temperatures of only around nine degrees, you could see a little bit of snow in fact on the mountaintops of scotland. further south, around the mid teens celsius. we could just make 17 degrees across the extreme south. now, as we move through friday night, it stays blustery, further showers at times. the rain in the north begins to push southwards into northern ireland and into northern england, north wales. those temperatures falling to lows of around 6 8 degrees. area of low pressure still with us moving very slowly southwards on saturday. again, a real squeeze in the isobars, particularly central and western parts of the country. so in fact we are likely to see gales through friday night and into saturday as that area of low pressure slowly moves southwards across the country. we could see gusts of 60 miles an hour, which could give rise to some disruptions, particularly strong for this time of year. there s the area of low pressure spiralling off the east coast of england, bringing further bands of rain or showers. again, some of these will be heavy and thundery. further rain pushing into northern scotland but a little bit of a temperature recovery in the north. highs of 17 degrees there, in fact. mid to high teens further south. on sunday, a little bit quieter. our area of low pressure weakening still, just to the east of england. so, it looks like eastern parts of england could see most of the rain whereas further west will be a bit drier with a little bit of brightness breaking through. the winds will be later. so, it will feel that touch warmer across the board. as we head on into next week, looks like we ll start off rather cloudy and cool, mainly dry. but the winds will be light, and then if anything, it looks like high pressure will start to build back in through the week.
this is bbc news. the headlines: the first of several memorial services have been held in the american city of minneapolis to remember the life of george floyd, the 46 year old black man whose death in police custody has sparked worldwide protests. reverend al sharpton delivered the eulogy, and guests included civil rights activist jesse jackson. protests have continued in several cities across the us. hundreds marched through los angeles and gathered in front of city hall. this is the capital washington, where crowds are assembling outside the white house. tens of thousands of people in hong kong have defied a ban to turn out for a vigil on the anniversary of the tiananmen square crackdown. this year s vigil was banned by police, citing coronavirus measures. some protesters said they were also standing against china s growing control over hong kong. now on bbc news, hardtalk.
following riots over the killing of george floyd. a police officer sacked for his death has been charged with murder. clashes have also taken place between demonstrators and police in boston and atlanta. president trump has called on people to obey the law. brazil has reported nearly 27,000 cases of covid 19 in the past 2a hours a new daily record. it s now surpassed spain in the total number of virus deaths, with the fifth highest figure in the world. president jair bolsonaro says the spread of the virus is inevitable and the economy should be reopened immediately. the uk government has announced changes to the scheme that covers the wages of furloughed workers affected by the coronavirus lockdown businesses will have to start paying contributions, from august. wales‘ first minister has announced plans for relaxing restrictions there. hywel griffith reports from cardiff. too fast or too slow? the journey out of lockdown can feel exhausting. from monday, louise and her family will be able to meet relatives here in pontypridd with no limit on the head count, but they can t travel more than five miles, so family in the midlands will have to wait. i think they re making changes according to people s behaviour. as we can see, people are getting lockdown fatigue and i think people are breaking the rules and being maybe irresponsible, so i think it kind of makes sense in a way to be pragmatic. the changes in wales are meant to depend on data rather than a set of dates. the number of new coronavirus cases has gone down, but the rate at which the virus is spreading hasn t. staying local and not sharing facilities with other people we think remain sensible, precautionary steps when the r rate in wales is no better today than it was three weeks ago. shops have been told they may be able to reopen in three weeks, but some feel left in the dark. sian has several businesses here. she is anxious for pontypridd to recover after flooding earlier this year, but she s frustrated. i think the longer we are dragging ourfeet and we re not given any kind of clarity, it s going to harm. it s going to harm businesses, it s going to harm people s mental health. we are behind and it s causing issues. the welsh approach is unapologetically cautious. no plans have been announced for schools, as change comes one step at a time. hywel griffith, bbc news, pontypridd. now on bbc news our world. new york has been the epicentre of america s coronavirus outbreak, with nearly 30,000 deaths in the state so far. as the virus took hold in march, doctors and nurses from across the us answered new york s call for help. this is the story of four of those on the frontline, told through their video diaries as the crisis unfolds. a warning this programme contains scenes some viewers may find may find distressing. new york city has been the global epicentre of coronavirus. the president said this is a war, i agree with that. this is a war. people have died here than in any other city in the world. there has been times when i have walked out of the er and said to myself, what in the er and said to myself, what in the world has just happened? the er and said to myself, what in the world hasjust happened? things got so bad that the governor of new york pleaded for help. got so bad that the governor of new york pleaded for helplj got so bad that the governor of new york pleaded for help. i am asking healthcare professionals across the country, please, come help us in new york now. this is the story of some of the nurses who answered the call. and the besieged new york doctors fighting to stop their city being overwhelmed. i saw the row of ambulance stretches waiting to be triaged and empathy to myself, we re losing, we re losing. come here! come here. i come here! come here. lam christina ferguson and in a week, i will be heading out to new york to help in the bronx at one of their hospitals. i m travelling with a coworker of mine and having the skills, critical ca re mine and having the skills, critical care for me, er for him. we decided let s do it! this is the first time i have ever gone on an assignment such as this. it is a little bit different going into the epicentre ofa different going into the epicentre of a pandemic. this is one of my suitcases. i was therefore september 11 so naturally it feels like i should go back. to be a part of this and to help out in any way i can stop i have seven bags, there is the insta pot. i was thinking about some of the things i was backing up. as a nurse, this is we went to school for. this is what we do. going to new york for the sole crisis is basically like that, it s like throwing yourself into this situation. you don t think twice about it, you re just going. situation. you don t think twice about it, you rejust going. here situation. you don t think twice about it, you re just going. here we are at our favourite lake, my daughter and i do a lot of out your staff, and it is something really going to miss. but i would like to ta ke going to miss. but i would like to take these moments to think about the things i can come back to. take these moments to think about the things i can come back tolj take these moments to think about the things i can come back to. i do have my trunk packed, all of the medical supplies that we were donated to, ready to hit the road. so today has come, it is a five hour drive, and reality is sinking in that we are on our way. drive, and reality is sinking in that we are on our waylj drive, and reality is sinking in that we are on our way. i have my sleeping beauty and her best friend. i have some conflict about bringing her along but i don t want fear to steer me away from what i want to do and men who have had many conversations. we willjust take it one day at a time. some gorgeous views, it s kind of serene all of the same time knowing that once you get out of these mountains and into the city, there is no telling what is going to be waiting there for us. there is always some fear going into such a traumatic environment but the moment i walked into the er, it s go time. 0n on march the 13th, new york city recorded its first covid i9 at f. i m not sure how big this can be. within a month, or had died from the virus than at 9/11. i never really ever imagined in my life i would see the density of human suffering stop we will never think about healthcare in the same way. new yorker doctor eric is working at an emergency covert hospital that has been set up on staten island. an emergency covert hospital that has been set up on staten islandlj go has been set up on staten island.” go to people that i don t remember the days of the week anymore, i don t remember how many days i ve been doing this. ijust count it like coronavirus day 67, or something. new york has been through a lot and this is certainly testing us a lot and this is certainly testing us to our limits. i think we are well hopeful this is going to get better. it s been a marathon. we have been acting like it is a sprint. it s as if we were immediately post hurricane. except the problem is, it was like the hurricanejust the problem is, it was like the hurricane just came, hit the coast and then moved away. then we could start recovering. imagine a hurricane sitting over your city for 50 days. vacations have been deferred, birthdays have been deferred. we re doing is basically sleeping and coming work and dealing with the coronavirus. so, i have finally made it to my hotel room. a cute little kitchen. there is my famous insta pot. nancy isa there is my famous insta pot. nancy is a critical care nurse who will be working in the same hospital as doctor choi pena. working in the same hospital as doctor choi-pena. i let my daughter this morning but i m sad to leave her but i know she is in good hands. here is the bathroom, this is where the action is. make up, hair, i don t know what. a shower. it looks kind of cosy to me and i think i m going to be very happy here over the next eight weeks. christina and derek will be working in the bronx. there is our hospital. the borrower with the highest death rate in new york. we came two days early to get a tour. a lot of sick people. they are coming in quick. that right there is exactly what you think it is. they are about to take a truck away from the hospital. by early april, the situation in new york is so april, the situation in new york is so bad that refrigerated trucks are being used as makeshift bogs, and mass graves dug to deal with the number of bodies. so, it s the morning of my first shift. didn t really sleep very well last night. i m working a 12 hour shift today and tomorrow. so, i m just keeping my fingers crossed for the best. alrighty, wish me luck. this is my first shift and all day today we have been going through testing and honestly everywhere is just go time. we are doing the best we can. i heard the other day that if you can work in the bronx er, you can work anywhere. so, hopefully we get through these 13 weeks with my sanity intact. so wejust get through these 13 weeks with my sanity intact. so we just finished oui’ sanity intact. so we just finished our shift today, trying to decontaminate and disinfect everything. she is already taking off her shoes. laughs don t lose this now. we keep everything in a bag separate. don t lose this now. we keep everything in a bag separatem don t lose this now. we keep everything in a bag separate. it is unlike anything i have ever seen before. to see so many critical patients coming in at one time. the ambulances were non stop. it seems like every two or three minutes, there was an amulet coming in. there are other cases where you know the situation is not going to end well. whenever i see it to this degree, it is almost as though death is sitting on some of these patient‘s soldiers whispering in their ears. there s been times when i walked out the door and said to myself, what in the world has just happened? time to get out of here. nancy has been assigned to work in want of her hospital s pop up intensive care units. so firstly. which have been created to do with the overflow of covid 19 patients. created to do with the overflow of covid-19 patients. time to go back. no rest for the weary. with the pep-up no rest for the weary. with the pop up icus, the issue is the lack of access to equipment we need to ta ke of access to equipment we need to take care of the patients. the nurses are spending a good majority of their time running around hospital trying to find supplies. i think all of the nurses are doing the best that they can but it definitely stressful. it was busy, it was definitely an experience today. i got in there and they were so today. i got in there and they were so shortstaffed that they tried to give me four icu patients, which is kind of unheard of. usually two is the norm, three is a lot. but four, there was no way. so we will see how it goes. i am on for another 12 hour shifts tomorrow. i m just going to ta ke shifts tomorrow. i m just going to take some strength to get myself upstairs. it has become all consuming. i m getting reminded by my family to ta ke getting reminded by my family to take small breaks, especially when i m my kids. when i m at home, there is almost like this guilt that i am not still there. there is much more fighting to do. there has been a lots of absentee fathering unfortunately. i got up early to put my son to bed last night and the thing he was sad about yesterday was that he doesn t get to see me, which breaks my heart. he s going to remember me not being that more than the pandemic and the virus and that hurts. it s definitely something that leans on me and affects me, and affects them. after i get my scrubs on and my compression socks, every nurse should wear compression socks. we are at high risk, the virus is everywhere. no matter how many times we wash our hands, honey times we sanitise, the risk is very high. i have a scrub. right now, we have 40 people from our agency picking up the work for the nurses that are out sick. there are more of us working in the er right now than the regular employees. it is extremely busy, it isjust a employees. it is extremely busy, it is just a constant flow stop one after the other after the other. an ambulance brought in an elderly person, about 15 minutes, 20 minutes later, they were out in a body bag. they come in alert, and then it is mind blowing how fast theyjust go. after this is over and the healthcare workers don t get the therapy they need to process the stuff, i think the statistics are going to be high with suicide attempts. with healthcare workers, so attempts. with healthcare workers, so there is something we really have to watch out for. as somebody who works in psychology, i know that it isa works in psychology, i know that it is a possibility. well, we just finished our first three days in a i’ow. finished our first three days in a row. i am wiped out, i am tired. you don t realise how much it takes, wearing all of this ppe. my head feels like it is £100 heavier on my neck. it has been a long night, it is after midnight, we have been here since noon and it is time to hit the road, decompress and. shower! shower. nancy hasjust finished a shift on a covid unit. where all of the patients are dependent on a ventilator. generally, just people that are in that unit are not likely to survive. since this whole virus situation started, there has only been two patients who have made it out of the unit and survived. that is very, very little. the age range was pretty great. there was a patient there who was 26. which i thought was really eye opening because it just further thought was really eye opening because itjust further reiterates how the covid back virus affects everyone. but this young girl, she is still there and still fighting for her life and it is sad. home, sweet home! time to get these scrubs off. my feet are killing me! it has beena off. my feet are killing me! it has been a long day. pants, they are going to go into the basket. i think now people are exhausted and i think people just want respite. i think the nurses want to get back to what they were doing, you know, before this happened. with the units have been turned so upside down. but i think at this point people are just ready to quit. quit the covid crisis, i mean, not theirjob. you know, as a nurse, we give all of our energy to others and keep none for ourselves. i think that is why we are always tired. across the city in the bronx, the virus is highlighting stark inequalities. you have the projects, lower income housing, a large immigrant population. we are seeing mostly impoverished individuals, you see the black latina community as well. these are essential workers, you know? they are bus drivers, theyjanitors, they are bus drivers, theyjanitors, they are those that deliver food, deliver mail. and so, while many people are able to quarantine themselves or they have the luxury of working at home, essential workers don t have that opportunity. so it gives them an increased chance of being exposed to the virus. black and latina new yorkers are dying at twice the rate of white residents of the city. after developing symptoms of fatigue and a headache, christina has been sent home from the hospital.” and a headache, christina has been sent home from the hospital. i was crying. i was just more scared because i didn t want to be, like some of the patients that we ve seen, i mean, i get really, really sick. and today, she is going for a test. if it is positive ijust hope that i have built up some type of immunity. i m pretty nervous. i m hoping it s not but ijust feel like a truck hit me and my muscles hurt. any symptoms right now? just fatigue and a headache still. and my stomach. tilt your head back. all the way back, as far as you can. i will! all right, you re all done. the way back, as far as you can. i will! all right, you re all donem ta kes 24 will! all right, you re all donem takes 24 hours to know the results so takes 24 hours to know the results so that is going to be really hard to sit and wait on the results. so if things for me get really bad, to where i have to go in the hospital, derek has graciously told me he will ta ke derek has graciously told me he will take care of chloe and the dog. if it gets really bad and i don t make it gets really bad and i don t make it out of the hospital, then chloe andi it out of the hospital, then chloe and i have had the discussions about, you know, where she would go and who she would go with. and who she would go withm christine attests positive she will be one of the growing number of infected nurses. and some are becoming gravely ill. if christine attests positive. when i was training in brooklyn there was a nurse there who worked the night shift and she kind of hazardous reputation of being a battleaxe and obviously i grew to love her and knew that she had the biggest heart in the world. and i was told today bya in the world. and i was told today by a colleague that she is in critical care in the icu on a ventilator with coronavirus. and this is. symbolic of a lot of the banks and the hurt that happens with healthcare workers because we are not only watching patients die but you re also hearing about colleagues that are suffering and so, it feels like an attack on all fronts and it feels like it is a personal attack and a professional attack and it is ha rd and a professional attack and it is hard sometimes i think to see past that and to get through that because it is really acute stress and it feels like it is unravelling a lot of our lives as healthcare workers. that is the most challenging part is that these patients are kind of a loa n that these patients are kind of a loan and the families are not able to be there. kind of loan. there was a gentleman that i was caring for and he was just was a gentleman that i was caring for and he wasjust not in a good way and i was holding his hand and i was like i am going to get some coffee and i will come back and i came back with a coffee and he was dead. yeah. he died. so, iwas gone maybe 15 minutes. and there was nobody with him. so it was sad. and i felt, to some extent, like i did a disservice because i was not there andl disservice because i was not there and i went to get coffee. so, um, i hate that. um, i hate that more than anything. and then after that experience, you just flip back into nurse mode, you know? now you have tojust do what nurse mode, you know? now you have to just do what you have to do. well known er doctor here in to just do what you have to do. well known er doctor here in new york a battle to save the lives of so york a battle to save the lives of so many others. took her own life after weeks of treating patients with covid 19. she died in virginia sunday. when i heard about doctor breen, i wasn t surprised, it is tragic and in the same day we heard about an ems technician who also killed himself and ijust think it is the tip of the iceberg. the other day i was talking to a tech who was responsible for putting the bodies and the bags and he said that is all idid, day and the bags and he said that is all i did, day after day. i would put a body in a bag, take it downstairs and then there was no room downstairs, they were just everywhere. that is when the trucks came. they would fill it up with 55 bodies and it would leave and then another truck would be right there and they would fill it up and he said it was horrible. i said you have to talk to somebody about it. it will never go away. the end of a really long and hard week. ijust finished the zoom memorial service for a colleague, doctor lorna breen. lorna was a former colleague and friend. and last sunday took her own life. you know, her family says that it was related to the stress of coronavirus and that really hurt. in addition, the head nurse but i think i mentioned in one of my previous diaries passed away last week as well. a nurse manager that i know also passed away. and an intensivist downstate where i trained also passed away. so last week really, for me, was the worst week of this. it really did feel like a war. and any other event you would stop, you would be with people. tough week. i hope next week is a little bit better. by early may, hospitals are finally starting to see fewer admissions and fewer deaths. and new york is beginning to ease lockdown restrictions. it has been a crisis and a painful one. but we are coming out of the other side. christina s coronavirus test was negative but she and her daughter chloe have returned to missouri.” she and her daughter chloe have returned to missouri. i will talk to you guys tomorrow. nancy is about to head back to marilyn. to see her daughter and mum head back to marilyn. to see her daughterand mum maryland. and derek is continuing in the bronx. daughterand mum maryland. and derek is continuing in the bronxm has been a great adventure, it is challenging, but the whole thing has been great. over challenging, but the whole thing has been great. 0ver100,000 people have died from coronavirus in the us since march. just under 30,000 of those are in new york state. it has survived what its governor called a war. now, it has to come to terms with how life has changed. we tickled the break in new york. the system was about to collapse. it com pletely system was about to collapse. it completely disrupted normal in every sense of that word. there is no normal there is no longer that and we honestly will never be the same again. well, friday was a very warm day across the uk. in fact, the hot spot was scotland temperatures got up to 28 degrees. and saturday, in most parts of the uk, will be every bit as warm at least the low to mid 20s in most major towns and cities. it s been so reliable during the lockdown that the spring has ended up being the sunniest one on record, so this has been confirmed by the met office. now, high pressure is in charge of the weather across a large chunk of europe. it s centred across scandinavia and it s clearing the skies across the uk, ireland, much of western and central europe. these are the 6am temperatures. a little fresh in parts of east anglia. maybe in the rural spots, temperatures could be around 6 degrees, but elsewhere, not quite as nippy. very quickly, the temperatures will rocket during the course of the morning and into the afternoon. let s take a closer look. so on friday, we had temperatures up to around about 28 in some parts of western scotland. probably not quite so hot on saturday more like the low to mid 20s. very warm there in glasgow, 24 celsius. we ll match that in liverpool, in birmingham, and probably the hot spot will be somewhere in the south of england temperatures will get up to around 25 degrees celsius. now, the sun will be very strong as well you can see high uv levels pretty much right across the country so take note if you re planning to enjoy that fine weather outdoors. saturday night s looking absolutely fine and then sunday, we do it all over again the winds are light, the skies are clear, the temperatures are going to rise. in fact, in one or two spots, it could reach around 26 or 27 celsius, so a hot day on the way, especially across western parts of england on sunday. and over the next few days so this is including the weekend and into next week that warm plume of air from the southern climes continues to spread across the uk, as far north as scandinavia and even pushing to the arctic circle, so those temperatures are expected to, in fact, peak across the south of the uk come tuesday. we could see temperatures getting up to around 28 degrees celsius. but after that, a big change on the way. look at that back into the teens by the time we get to the weekend. in fact, next weekend, we re expecting colder air coming in from the north. that s it for me. bye.
welcome to bbc news i m lewis vaughanjones our top stories: teargas and troops, protesters ignore the curfew in minneapolis as demonstrators and buyers continue over the killing of george floyd. a police officer sacked over his death has been charged with murder. clashes in atlanta continue where hundreds of activists and police have held running confrontations on the main roads of the city. the mayor makes a passionate plea for the rioters to stop. you are disgracing our city, you are disgracing the life of george floyd and every other person who has been killed in this country. this was the scene in boston earlier where hundreds of activists and police clashed at protests over police brutality. in other news: coronavirus deaths in brazil pass 27,000
protesters and police have clashed as curfew orders are ignored in minneapolis and several other us cities. there are now curfews in place in 13 us cities. demonstrators are calling forjustice after the killing of african american, george floyd, by a police officer. england s deputy chief medical officer has warned of a very dangerous moment in the fight against coronavirus. professorjonathan van tam said easing the lockdown would not affect the infection rate, but he urged the public not to tear the pants out of the new guidelines. the first commercial spacecraft to carry people into space has successfully launched from cape canaveral in florida. the capsule, built by elon musk‘s spacex, has two astronauts onboard, and they are now on their way to the international space station. here, private tenants are more likely to be in financial difficulty than home owners because of the pandemic, according to a new study. the report by the think tank the resolution foundation says many renters have seen their incomes fall. the government insists it s taken action to support tenants, including banning evictions for three months, as our business correspondent, katy austin explains. paying the rent has become too much for denny while her hair salon is shut. her landlord has agreed to postpone two months‘ rent, to be paid back in future. at the moment we owe april and may, and thenjune is due the 1st ofjune. i feel sick, actually. because at the moment, now, that s obviously one of our biggest outgoings, the rent. citizens advice estimates 2.6 million tenants expect to fall behind on rent because of coronavirus, and the resolution foundation think tank says one in five private renters have been furloughed or lost theirjob. it says they are struggling with payments more than homeowners. going into the crisis they had lower levels of savings, for example, and critically they also spent considerably more of their income on housing costs in the first place. government has brought in measures to try and help struggling tenants. in march, evictions were banned for three months but a committee of mps has warned a crisis is looming in the private rental sector. citizens advice says further measures will be needed when the eviction ban ends in late june. what we want the government to do is make sure that there is protection for people who have fallen into arrears due to coronavirus, and then also to accept and make sure the landlords have to put in place things like affordable repayment plans. landlords say they are working out solutions with tenants wherever possible. the ministry responsible for housing said support for renters and landlords is being kept under review. katy austin, bbc news. now on bbc news, our world. new york has been the epicentre of america s coronavirus outbreak, with nearly 30,000 deaths in the state so far. as the virus took hold in march, doctors and nurses from across the us answered new york s call for help. this is the story of four of those on the frontline told through their video diaries as the crisis unfolds. a warning this programme contains scenes some viewers may find may find distressing. new york city has been the global epicentre of coronavirus. the president said this is a war, i agree with that. this is a war. more people have died here than in any other city in the world. there s been times when i have walked out of the er and said to myself, what in the world just happened 7 things got so bad that the governor of new york pleaded for help. i am asking healthcare professionals across the country, please, come help us in new york now. this is the story of some of the nurses who answered the call. and the besieged new york doctors fighting to stop their city being overwhelmed. i saw the row of ambulance stretchers waiting to be triaged and i thought to myself, we re losing, we re losing. ellie, come here! i m christina ferguson and in a week, i will be heading out to new york to help in the bronx at one of their hospitals. i m travelling with a co worker of mine, and having the skills, critical care for me, er for him, we decided, let s do it. this is the first time i have ever gone on an assignment such as this. this is a little bit different going into the epicentre of a pandemic. this is one of my suitcases. i was there for september 11, so naturally it feels like i should go back, you know, to be a part of this and help out in any way ican. i have seven bags, there is the insta pot. i was thinking about some of the things i was packing up. as a nurse, this is what we went to school for. this is what we do. going to new york for this whole covid crisis is basically like that, it s like throwing yourself into the situation. you don t think twice about it, you re just going. here we are at our favourite lake. my daughter and i do a lot of outdoorsy stuff, and it is something we re really going to miss. but i would like to take these moments to think about the things i can come back to. i do have my trunk packed, all the medical supplies that were donated. we ll get ready to hit the road. so the day has come, it is a 17.5 hour drive, and reality is sinking in and we re on our way. i have my sleeping beauty and her best friend. i had some conflict about bringing her along but i don t want fear to steer me away from what i want to do, and we have had many conversations. we ll just take it one day at a time. some gorgeous views, it s kind of serene all at the same time knowing that once we get out of these mountains and into the city, there s no telling what s going to be waiting there for us. there s always some fear going into such a traumatic environment, but the moment i walk into the er, it s go time. on march the 13th, new york city recorded its first covid i9 death. i m not we could have fathomed how big this could ve been. within a month, more had died from the virus than in 9/11. i never really ever imagined in my life i would see the density of human suffering. we will never think about healthcare in the same way. new yorker, doctor eric cioe pena is working at an emergency covid hospital that has been set up on staten island. ijoke with people that i don t remember the days of the week anymore, i don t remember how many days i ve been doing this. ijust count it like coronavirus day 67, or something. new york has been through a lot and this is certainly testing us to our limits. but i think we are all hopeful this is going to get better. it s been a marathon. we have been acting like it s a sprint. it s as if we were immediately post hurricane. except the problem is, it wasn t like the hurricane came, hits the coast and then moved away. then we could start recovering. imagine a hurricane sitting over your city for 50 days. vacations have been deferred, birthdays have been deferred. all we re doing is basically sleeping and coming to work and dealing with coronavirus. so, i have finally made it to my hotel room. a cute little kitchen. there is my famous insta pot. nancy is a critical care nurse who will be working in the same hospital as doctor cioe pena. i left my daughter this morning but i m sad to leave her but i know she is in good hands. here is the bathroom, this is where the action is. make up, hair, i don t know what. a shower. it looks kind of cosy to me and i think i m going to be very happy here over the next eight weeks. christina and derek will be working in the bronx. there s our hospital. the burrough with the highest death rate in new york. we came two days early to get a tour. a lot of sick people. they re coming in quick. that right there is exactly what you think it is. they re about to take a truck away from the hospital. by early april, the situation in new york is so bad that refrigerated trucks are being used as makeshift morgues, and mass graves dug to deal with the number of bodies. so, it s the morning of my first shift. didn t really sleep very well last night. i m working a 12 hour shift today and tomorrow. so, i m just keeping my fingers crossed for the best. alrighty, wish me luck. this is my first shift and all day today, we ve been going through testing and honestly everywhere isjust go time. we re doing the best we can. i heard the other day that if you can work in the bronx er, you can work anywhere. so, hopefully we get through these 13 weeks with my sanity. so we just finished our shift today, trying to decontaminate and disinfect everything. she s already taking off her shoes. laughs don t lose this now. we keep everything in a bag separated. it s unlike anything i ve ever seen before. to see so many critical patients coming in at one time. the ambulances were non stop. it seems like every two or three minutes, there was an ambulance coming in. there are other cases where you know the situation is not going to end well. whenever i see it to this degree, it s almost as though death is sitting on some of these patient‘s shoulders whispering in their ears. there s been times when i walked out the door and said to myself, what in the world has just happened? time to get out of here. nancy has been assigned to work in one of her hospital s pop up intensive care units. so thirsty. ..which have been created to do with the overflow of covid 19 patients. time to go back. no rest for the weary. with these pop up icus, the issue is the lack of access to equipment we need to take care of the patients. the nurses are spending a good majority of their time running around hospital trying to find supplies. i think all of the nurses are doing the best that they can but it s definitely stressful. it was busy, it was definitely an experience today. i got in there and they were so short staffed that they tried to give me four icu patients, which is kind of unheard of. usually, two is the norm, three is a lot. but four, there was no way. so we ll see how it goes. i m on foranother12 hour shift tomorrow. it s going to some strengthjust to get myself upstairs. it has become all consuming. i m getting reminded by my family to take small breaks, especially when i m with my kids. when i m at home, there s almost like this guilt that i m not still there. there is much more fighting to do. there has been a lots of absentee fathering unfortunately. i got home early enough to put my son to bed last night and the thing he was sad about yesterday was that he doesn t get to see me, which breaks my heart. he s going to remember me not being there more than the pandemic and the virus and that hurts. it s definitely something that leans on me and affects me, and affects them. after i get my scrubs on and my compression socks, every nurse should wear compression socks. we re at high risk, the virus is everywhere. no matter how many times we wash our hands, no matter how many times we sanitise, the risk is very high. i have a scrubcap. right now, we have 40 people agency nurses from our agency picking up the work for the nurses that are out sick. there are more of us working in the er right now than the regular employees. it s extremely busy, it s just a constant flow, one after the other, after the other. an ambulance brought in an elderly person, about 15 minutes, 20 minutes later, they were brought out in a body bag. they come in alert, and then it is mind blowing how fast theyjust go. after this is over and healthcare workers don t get the therapy they need to process the stuff, i think the statistics are going to be high with suicide attempts in healthcare workers, so there is something we really have to watch out for. as somebody who works in psych, i know that it s a possibility. well, we just finished our first two days in a row. i m wiped out, i m tired. you don t realise how much it takes, wearing all of this ppe. my head feels like it s 100 pounds heavier on my neck. it s been a long night, it s after midnight, we ve been here since noon and it s time to hit the road, decompress and. shower! both chuckle. nancy has just finished a shift on a covid unit where all of the patients are dependent on a ventilator. generally, those people that are in that unit are not likely to survive. since this whole virus situation started, there s only been two patients who have made it out of the unit and survived that s very, very little. the age range was pretty great. there was a patient there who was 26, which i thought was really eye opening because it just further reiterates how the covid virus affects everyone. but this young girl and she s still there and she s still fighting for her life and it s sad. home, sweet home! sighs. time to get these scrubs off. ugh, my feet are killing me! it s been a long day. pants they are going to go into the basket. sighs. i think now people are exhausted and i think people just want respite. i think the nurses want to get back to what they were doing, you know, before this happened. their units have been turned so upside down. but i think at this point, people are just ready to quit quit the covid crisis, i mean, not theirjob. you know, as a nurse, we give all of our energy to others and keep none for ourselves. i think that s why we re always tired. across the city in the bronx, the virus is highlighting stark inequalities. you have the projects, lower income housing, a large immigrant population. we are seeing mostly impoverished individuals, you see the black and latino community as well. these are essential workers, you know? they re the bus drivers, they re the janitors, they re those that deliver food, deliver mail. and so, while many people are able to quarantine themselves, or they have the luxury of working at home, essential workers don t have that opportunity, so it gives them an increased chance of being exposed to the virus. black and latino new yorkers are dying at twice the rate of white residents of the city. after developing symptoms of fatigue and a headache, christina has been sent home from the hospital. i was crying. i was just more scared because i didn t want to be like some of the patients that we ve seen i mean, they get really, really sick. ..and today, she s going for a test. if it is positive, ijust hope that i have built up some type of immunity. i m pretty nervous. i m hoping it s not, but ijust feel like a truck hit me and my muscles hurt. any symptoms right now? uh, just fatigue and a headache still. and my stomach is not right. you ve got to tilt your head back all the way back, as far as you can. 0oh! great. all right, you re all set. it takes 2a hours to know the results so that s going to be really hard, to sit and wait on the results. so if things, for me, get really bad, to where i have to go in the hospital, derek has graciously told me he ll take care of chloe and the dog. if it gets really bad and i don t make it out of the hospital, then chloe and i have had the discussions about, you know, where she would go and who she would go with. if christina tests positive, she ll be one of the growing number of infected nurses. and some are becoming gravely ill. when i was training in brooklyn, there was a nurse there who worked the night shift and she kind of has this reputation of being a battleaxe, and i obviously grew to love her and knew that she had the biggest heart in the world. and i was told today by a colleague that she s in critical care in the icu on a ventilator with coronavirus. um, and this is, uh, symbolic of a lot of the angst and the hurt that happens with healthcare workers because we re not only watching patients die but you re also hearing about colleagues that are suffering and so, it feels like an attack on all fronts it feels like it is a personal attack, it s a professional attack, um, and it s hard sometimes, i think, to see past that and to get through that, because it s really an acute stress and it feels like it s unravelling a lot of our lives as healthcare workers. that is the most challenging part is that these patients are kind of alone and the families are not able to be there. there was a gentleman that i was caring for and he wasjust not in a good way and i was holding his hand. i was like i m going to go get some coffee and i m gonna come back . i came back with the coffee and he was dead. yeah. he died. so, i was gone maybe 15 minutes. and there was nobody with him. so it was sad. and i felt, to some extent, that i did a disservice because i wasn t there and i went to get coffee. so, um, i hate that. um, i hate that more than anything. and then after that experience, you just flip back into nurse mode, you know? now you have to just do what you have to do. a well known er doctor here in new york who battled to save the lives of so many others. 49 year old dr lorna breen took her own life after weeks of treating patients with covid 19. she died in virginia sunday. when i heard about doctor breen, i wasn t surprised. it s tragic. and in the same day, we heard about an ems technician who also killed himself, and ijust think it s the tip of the iceberg. the other day, i was talking to a tech who was responsible for putting the bodies in the bags. and he said that s all i did, day after day. i would put a body in a bag, take it downstairs and then there was no room downstairs they were just everywhere. that s when the trucks came. they would fill it up with 55 bodies, it would leave and then another truck would be right there, they d fill it up. he said it was horrible. i said you have to talk to somebody about it. it will never go away. the end of a really long and hard week. ijust finished the zoom memorial service for a colleague dr lorna breen. lorna was a former colleague and friend and, last sunday, took her own life. you know, her family says that it was related to the stress of coronavirus, and that really hurt. in addition, the head nurse that i think i mentioned in one of my previous diaries passed away last week as well. a nurse manager that i know also passed away. and an intensivist downstate, where i trained, also passed away. so last week really, for me, was the worst week of this. it really did feel like a war. and any other event you would stop, you would mourn, you would be with people. tough week. i hope next week s a little bit better. by early may, hospitals are finally starting to see fewer admissions and fewer deaths. and new york is beginning to ease lockdown restrictions. it has been a crisis, and a painful one. but we re coming out of the other side. christina s coronavirus test was negative but she and her daughter chloe have returned to missouri. i will talk to you guys tomorrow. nancy is about to head back to maryland to see her daughter and mum. and derek is continuing in the bronx. it has been a great adventure, it is challenging, but the whole thing has been great. over 100,000 people have died from coronavirus in the us since march. just under 30,000 of those are in new york state. it has survived what its governor called a war. now, it has to come to terms with how life has changed. we tickled the brink in new york. the system was about to collapse. it completely disrupted normal in every sense of that word. there is no normal anymore. there s no going back from this. we will honestly never be the same again. hello there. saturday brought more dry, sunny, and warm weather across the whole of the united kingdom. now, it was a fine end to the day in london and west london did quite well for temperatures. heathrow got up to 26 degrees. but for the most part on saturday, the highest temperatures were across the north and the west of the uk with kinloch here in the highlands of scotland, the nation s hotspot with highs of 27. we re going to see similar kind of temperatures for these western areas as we get on into sunday as well. now over the next few hours, most of us are going to keep the clear skies but probably some low cloud and some fog begin to push onto the eastern shores of scotland and although temperatures in the towns and cities between around 8 13 degrees, in the countryside the coldest spots get down to about 3 degrees so it will be quite chilly for some of you to start sunday morning. sunday, well, that low cloud and fog can take the first few hours of the morning to clear away from east scotland. maybe a bit of misting this as well in north east england. but otherwise, a sunny start to the day and a sunny afternoon. now, the highest temperatures in scotland probably again to the north west of the country, the highlands doing ok with highs probably reaching around 25 26 degrees celsius here. you might see another 23 or 2a for westernmost areas of northern ireland. and some of the highest temperatures in england across western areas and wales too. you could see highs locally hitting around 27. now for monday s forecast, the high pressure is still in charge of our weather, so we ve got more of that dry weather to come. more of the sunshine as well. temperatures still on the high side for the time of year, looking at highs of 2a in glasgow, 26 or so in cardiff, but from then on we re going to start to see the weather changing somewhat because an area of low pressure is going to start to develop to the north of the uk and move in as we head towards tuesday and wednesday. so, that is going to be bringing some cloudy skies with rain or showers pushing southwards and as well as that, the area is going to be getting cooler. so temperatures will be coming back down close to normal for the time of year and normal isn t something we ve seen for quite a long time. so, scotland is going to be cooling down as you can see, there will be some rain and showers around as well as we go through tuesday and wednesday. perhaps some of the heaviest rain actually working through during tuesday night. further southwards across england and wales, still hanging onto some warm sunshine on tuesday but the change comes really on wednesday with thicker cloud. again, rain or showers working in. that s your latest 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this is bbc news welcome if you re watching here in the uk or around the globe. i m lewis vaughan jones. our top stories: tensions in minneapolis as protestors and police clash as curfew orders are ignored. police and national guard troops fire tear gas and flares are thrown back. the governor urges people to stay at home. and it s very clear on this. this is a very simple order. there is a curfew issued by the mayor, and backed by the state, that you shouldn t be on the streets tonight. and i will leave it at that. when you decide to take the decision to go out on the streets tonight, the assumption is that you re