we seem to be muddling through quite reasonably given all the obvious problems rdz you worry about a number of things including the united states will never, ever, or you don t expect it to ever go back to the level of economic growth and gdp annually that it did in previous years. right. and i worry that the powers believe that it will. so clearly bernanke seems to believe it will go back to 3%, the good old days. rose: you don t think that s possible. well, the population, which is a huge input into gdp, its population times productivity. and or population plus productivity. and the population which often hit 1.5% while i was in america, has dropped all the way down to maybe 0.2, 0.3. and these are kind of official numbers adjusted for the fact that he work a little bit less each year. and women, who hardly worked back in the 50s really created a billing boost in the number of people hours offered to the work force. rose: so that acceleration of women in the workforce has will seed down. no its completely finished. it peaked out in about 2,000. so now we don t have a very rapid growth in people, women are finished. we work a little less. and as far as we can work out, we shouldn t expect more than about 0.2% increase in hours offered to the workforce. and in the old days it was, you know, well over 1. so it s dropped by a point. and yet bernanke s estimate of 3% hasn t dropped by anything. so by inference, he s assuming that somehow the productivity will accelerate by an offsetting 1%. and that is there is no possibility of that. last 30 years, productivity has been 1.3% a year. and in the 40 years before that, after world war ii, it was 1.7, 1.8, 1.9. so it s actually decelebrated decelerated. and there s plenty of reasons to think it will modestly decelerate in the future so if you have 1.3% productivity, and let s say you hold that, which is fairly optimistic, and you add on your 0.2% for extra man hours, you re at 1.5. and not at 3 or not at 2.5 which is the imf and the world bank. and even at 1.5 doesn t make me happy because it treats resources incorrectly. it treats trades an increase in resource cost as a boost to gdp. so if you drill, a much more complicated well that takes more steel and more people, the gdp goes up. when i think it s obvious to anybody that providing resources is a cost of doing business for the rest of the economy. and if you spend $150 producing a barrel of offshore brazilian oil, and the same barrel, exactly the same utility as the $10 soundee barrel ri is to you gone, you are not going forward. and yet the gdp measurement clocks in everybody s employment, and so the more people you need to get a barrel of oil, they think the economy is stronger. and of course it s weaker. so we worked that out. and we say how fast is the rest of the economy growing. take out the resource component, and the answer is in the last ten years, about .5% a year, .4, .5% a year less than is measured by the gdp. so we have to knock that off which takes our 1.5 down to a point. now when the price of resources was declining as it did for a 100 years up until about 2000, it was underestimated. maybe underestimated by almost a quarter of a percent. when the price of resources are going down t makes getting wealthy much easier. and in total the typical commodity dropped by 70% over a hundred years. and then it turned on a dime and gave the whole 100 years back between 2000 and 2002 and 2008. in six years it gave back a hundred years of decline. it went up more steeply than it did in world war ii it is quite amazing no one talked about it, there was no fuss, there was no world war three. but suddenly we seem to be running out of cheap resources. and when we look for the reason, incidentally, it seems to be steady population growth, and perhaps more importantly, the enormous china, 1.3 billion trying to grow faster than the 20 million south koreans did 20 years ago, growing their demand for resources at least 10% a year. and pretty soon you end up with numbers that don t seem to compute very easily. china is 53% of all the cement used on the planet, not traded, just used. they use 47% of all the coal, 46% of all the iron. these are unimaginable numbers. and if they mean to even slow down to 7%, it means 10 years from now we ve got to find another 47% coal, just for china. rose: but let me just stay with the demand in china. china is fridaying to shift from an exporting economic model to a domestic demand economic model. will they be successful at that? and if they do, because of a rising middle class in china, and population growth, will that also serve as new markets for europe and the united states, and latin america? of course it will. rose: and therefore economic growth. yes, it s a gooden begin in the short term for economic growth. the problem is it s incredibly energy intensive. and if they mean to keep growing at these rates, they are chewing up coal and oil. rose: an polluting their environment. that has enormous environmental consequences which in the end could be quite deadly. but in the short term it pushes up the price of oil. and what has happened, the most pont thing, really, in resources is that the price of oil, which was 25 bucks a barrel in 2000, is approximately a hundred bucks today. it s four times. it s also half the cost structure of all the other resources. so when if goes up four times, if you are mining copper, you ve got to spend four times the amount on your energy. plus the quality of your copper ore is declining, so maybe su have to spend 8 times as much. and so the price keeps going up. so if china continues to grow at these rates, yes it will stimulate global business and b it will keep pushing up the resource prices. and resource prices have been rising faster than global growth rate so they are squeezing the rest of the system. rose: why were you opposed to the keystone pipeline, because a lot of people think we need all the it s very simple math. fossil fuel we can get. there s a short term, medium term, long term argument against them. but the long term is the carbon math is pretty simple. we have pushed up the temperature by 0.8 degrees centigrade. rose: global warming. global warmingment and you see the affect. everybody sees the affect in new york floods and burning up the midwest and burning up the whole of russian wheat crop last year too and so on around the planet, for three years in a row it is really getting quite obvious. and spring arrives a couple of weeks earlier than it used to. you can t really miss it. and we know what it took to push it up, 0.8 degrees centigrade. it took a certain amount of carbon dioxide which we can measure carefully and we can calculate how much it would take to push it up to 2 degrees. 2 degrees is scently agreed by clime at scientists and others to be a boundary. you go above that and you will certainly have really dire consequences which will get worse for a long time because these things flow very slowly through the system. stay below 2 degrees and we might limp our way through this. and so we can calculate how much in the way of carbon it would take. it s actually 565 gigatons. it s a lot of carbon but the bad news is that we already have in our prove own reserves five times that kment is so we have enough to completely cook our goose and guarantee that our grandchildren are near starvation and so on with floods and . rose: do you think we will? no, i think i m not optimistic about the common sense of our species. rose: of our species or our politicians. no, of our species, particularly the politicians. but i do think that in a real crisis when things really start to go wrong that we will belatedly have some determined . rose: haven t things already really gone wrong? enough for scientists to be frightened. but not enough to frighten the average guy in the street. rose: here s what is interesting about you. to listen to you talk about economics an listen to you talk about the environment, you are a numbers man. yes. this is entirely numbers-driven. that s how i got into this trouble. you just look at the numbers and they say watch out, we re going to fry. and if you mean to pump tar sands, we re going to pump all the good oil, all the good old-fashioned high quality, low cost oil, we re going to pump all that and we re going to pump all the traditional natural gas. but if we mean to dig all the coal and we mean to scrabble through the tar sands, extremely costly and utterly ruin us environmentally, not just carbon dioxide but just terrible things that they are doing, then we re toast. we have no chance. and by licensing that pipeline we re saying to the world, we re going into round three. we re going to start facilitating the flow of such utterly dangerous energy resources that we have no reasonable hope of surviving with the planet as we know it. it s a very nice planet and it has a lot of biodiversity still left. rose: right. and undiscovered, even. yes. and we humans probably taking care of maybe 10% in the last 10 or 12,000 years. but we are racing through in terms of getting rid of biodiversity. this is known in the trade as the 6th great die off since the beginning of time. and it s happening at lightning speed by previous . rose: you are sounding malfusian. he wasn t interested in the die off of the species. rose: but he was interested in food. well, he described the past very accurately. we had spent let s say 12,000 years living with our noses pushed up against the boundary of food supply. and sometimes there would be four or five bad years and they would die. and sometimes they would have a great run of 20 years and they would multiply. but that was the determining factor, like a rat population. we just move back and forth. and right up until his time. and the terrific irony is as he is signing his book which is 1798, they re digging the first coal. so that the coal and then oil & gas bought us a time-out, an amazing, but short time-out which will probably be about 250 years in which you have almost infinite energy, a gallon of gasoline is something like 200 man hours of labor, try pushing an suv uphill and you will realize how powerful oil is and gasoline. and so ode people became, in a sense, richer than the kings had been in the past. and it meant surplus, food, population growth, civilization, science, all these wonderful things. but we only had a limited supply. millions of years of stored energy from the sun. it s in your bank account. and we re draining down the bank account without any real regard for what we re doing. and what it leaves our children and our grandchildren. its our inheritance and we re running through it. rose: what are you doing about it? basically everything i possibly can. rose: protesting a pipeline. no, no, we have a foundation for the protection of the environment. and the money we get goes into it. and we spend it as effectively as we can to combat some of the nonsense out there in the airwaves. if you have most of your stock value in the value of your oil reserves our your coal reserves, you will be pretty reluctant to entertain the thought that it would be poisonous to our long-term well-being to pump it out. so they are. and they oppose it. and they ve opposed it very effectively and the propaganda has been superb. but as i ve often said it leaves me with the question have they no grandchildren these people. rose: let me move to agriculture because i ve gotten a little bit interested in agriculture because of bill gates. bill gates is really interested in agriculture now. he just went down to mexico and he and carlos slim launched some project down there. you re interested in agriculture. certainly. rose: how did you become interested in it and what have you learned about it. and why do we care? we got into resources via the numbers. we had always studied asset class bubbles. right. and looking through the bubbles we thought we had found a situation where every single bubble had always broken without exception. and then i began to realize the oil had spiked quite a long time ago and was never going to come down to the old price it was $16 a barrel for 100 years until opec in 1974. and then it jumped to 35, what i call a paradigm jump which was unique in any large asset class. and it traded for about 30 years with the usual great volatility, oil is very volatile, around 35. and then in the last few years it took another jump to about 80, 85. which is a whole lot different from 16. and you can wait as long as you like until you die of old age. it s not going back to 16. rose: is it going back 20-to-35. no, this is cost driven, you go to shell, to bp, ask them what does it take in your mind to find a decent amount of old-fashioned oil. and they will tell you, 80 bucks, 85 bucks. rose: this is again how you look at numbers. there is an impending shortage of fertilizer, according to you, yes? there is a guaranteed long-term shortage. and that s what separates most of our work from that of other people. we find that oil is a paradigm shift. we then say well why shouldn t it apply to all the other things that are in the ground. and we found it did. then we created our index showing that the price had declined for a 100 years and then exploded. and then within that subset i started to say, and which is the tightest, most problematical situation and that brought to us phosphate oil ors to forous. and the scary thing abouts to for os which really does give me goosebumps when i think about it, it s an element. you can t make it you can t substitute for it and no living thing, humans, animals, vegetables, everything needs phosphorous to grow. you can t grow anything without it, and we are mining it in what we call big ag, big agriculture, we re mining it, it is a finity resource, now that should make you pretty scared am you can calculate how long it will take to run out. if you were for a second to take out one country, morocco and say we will ignore their wonderful, cheap, high quality reserves, a dried up ocean, incidentally, how much have we got left. and the answer is at 2% a year growth to allow the chinese to eat a bit of meat now and then, we ve got maybe 50 years. rose: and then it s gone. and then, you know, you ve got to be optimistic. we have found ways to develop new things all along. but you can t substitute, very few things in this world. you can t substitute for water, not really for soil, not potassium and not phosphorus. rose: how do you know we are not going to develop a desal inization process that will provide us all the water we need. well, that s well respondedment because i am willing, i am willing to not fight a war over water. because water desperately tries to recycle. i mean it s the most amazingly helpful product on the planet. rose: right. you take a really dirty polluted body of water, it evaporates, pure water and then falls where you need it i mean this is really helpful. phosphorous doesn t do that. it stays underground needing lots of energy to mine it. and it s amazingly high quality. rose: but hasn t science for the most part, i mean are you a numbers man again. but hasn t science generally, you know, helped us i mean the reason for 250 years. rose: yeah. what a coincidence. rose: science has helped us. science is to the going to stop. from about the time we found coal and oil, science has helped us. rose: right. where was science before that? isaac newton and the guys, these were scientists rrz yeah. and yet we lived to the limit of our food supply. we never started to develop this kind of arrogance that we can do anything with the infinite capacities of the human brain until coal and oil gave us this supermann power. and now, now, of course, we . rose: without chern oibl we never had the confidence in the science. we would have continued to have grown the science like it was growing in the time of, you know, amsterdam and so on. in other words, doing nicely in these little pockets of wealth, making nice scientific advances, progressing slowly, building the odd canal and chopping all our trees down. we would have been in tree hell within 100 years. rose: how many have stepped forward to say, you know, and i know the distinction you make with yourself. how many have stepped forward to say doom, doom, doom and doom, whether it s the economy, whether it s the planet, whether it s and all of a sudden you realize that it wasn t quite quite that bad, that something came along to avoid the result. before the last 250 years, before coal, what came along was the collapse of the civilization. one after another. they seem as one author has said to be hard wired to self-destruct. rose: right. they develop a kind of hutzpah an arrogance in the belief of what they can do whether the roman empire, or mayan empire question, do this. our scientists, our workers, we can build via ducts, we can get the job done. they overreach, the weather turns against them, et cetera, et cetera, and they collapse. not one or two, every civilization collapsed. and now we have a global civilization with you we have this amazing gifts of 250 years of accumulated sunshine. enormous energy. and everything you say about the optimists hinges on this little window of 250 years. rose: so the story of civilization over the last 200 years is the development of oil & gas. yes. rose: to fuel our economy, to fuel our automobiles, our planes, our everything. everything. rose: everything, and every wave of technology has been hugely energy intensive, coal and steam engines. oil and cars and refrigerators and air conditioning. and ipads. we all run around wondering whether our ipad and iphone is charged. they re huge absorbers of energy. however, i am an optimist in two ways. rose: i m waiting. okay. we have two gifts that none of those hundreds of failed civilizations had, that might, it s quite undeserved, incidentally, it is pure luck, might get us off the hook. and one of them is the fertility rate. malfius never dreamt for a second that as people got richer they would volunteer to have fewer children. rose: right. back in those days if you were rich you had 20 children. rose: right. 15 children. and now you have 1.5. rose: right. and we have made enormous progress. my favorite being iran. muslim society, 1960, 7 children per well and now it s 1.5, 1.6. rose: but it s gotten, ah, but at the same time, in a lot of societies now, they are worried about that demographic. of course they re all worried about short term wealth. rose: russia is worried to death. china singapore, singapore. nevertheless, on my rnz china and singapore had such strict baby policies that they are now worried so they have taken all those restrictions away. not all of them away. rose: not all of them, but singapore they are looking to import malaysians to help their economy and do the jobs. yes, if you have short term political problems, you behave in the short term way. and in the short term growth appears to be good. it s certainly . rose: with would be the long-term way to behave. in the long-term you have got to get the global population down. we have more population than we can sustain without carbon-based fuel. rose: if you look at, i m asking, if you look at emerging nations, it seems to me that one of the things that has driven their economic growth has been their population. yes, of course, it drives growth. it also drives . rose: you said population and productivity. it also drives long-term problems. rose: yeah. it increases the pressure on finity resources until they run out and then you are stuck. it s like the tide going out, you know, the tide goes out and left you high and dry. and you have no fallback unless, like the norwegian government, building up a great sovereign fund. but i never got to the second reason. rose: okay, please do. the second good reason, i have so few good points you have to let me get my two good points in. and that is alternative energy. rose: yeah. every wave of technology has been has required a wave of energy. here we have a wave of technology that does exactly the reverse. it suppresses the demand on our finity resources of coal and oil. every time you have a brilliant new idea, an ipo, capitalism at its best, developing an energy-saving technique, solar, wind power, storage, a grid, a any state of the ard grid system, all of those suppress the need to use our finity resources. that is wonderful. and that is happening faster than people realize. someone from duke power said for them the cost of a solar pan hell dropped in two years to 25 cents on the dollar. i mean these are morse law type reductions, the kind of efficiency increases we only saw in semiconductors. they have been coming down from ludicrously expensive to moderately expensive. rose: help me understand. i m not sure i got the point. so therefore. therefore we can get off there terrible trap of expanding as long as the coal and oil is there and then being left high and dry. we have the wherewithal to move fairly seamlessly if we chose to make the effort, to a renewable source of energy. that will not run out. rose: because the price has come down. no, because the sun never quits. so if you can capture the sun s energy, you can keep you can keep society going. rose: an technology will get us there because it will produce the batteries and be able to store the sun which is my point all along. this is the one area, and the only area where i agree that technology suterly critical rses science will save us. no, science won t guarantee to save us. science will only give us a possible out if we keep the population falling, despite the fact that people who should no better complain about it as a problem, when it s our last best hope that we have the population continue to decline. we have to come back in 2 years and have a population of 4 billion, not 10 in 200 years. and we have to have complete self-sufficiency in renewable energy. rose: how do we do that. we need good policy. rose: how do we have 4 billion. 4 billion is nothing, over 200 200 years that is nothing. that is 1.8. every developed country now is at or close to 1.8. rose: 1.8 children per couple. yeah, 1.8 children per couple. america just dropped to 1.9 with lots of immigrants. and there are countries out there, japan as you know an china who are way below 1.8. even iran, bangladesh is down to 2.2, amazing. but we need that. we need to encourage it. we need to get the population down as fast as we can. now of course it s a short term shock to the system, older people have to work harder. you have to have 74-year-olds. rose: like you. working but it s no big deal. we re not the 70-year-olds that we used to be a hundred years ago. rose: there was just the thing in the financial times that said 70 71 is the new 30. yeah, well, having played soccer until i was 62, i can guarantee that s not true. rose: at 62 you didn t play like you were 30. no, every year you watched the kid who was relatively slow 28-year-old get a yard faster. you can kid yourself at tennis but not soccer. rose: so let me just stay with this, we have to go back to agriculture. and those two things. you have a larger view about natural resources, about food as well, in terms of when you look at the world and the production of these resources, it s an ugly picture. it s an ugly picture and the economists say you don t have to worry about that. it s just a matter of price, to which i say oh you mean when half the world starves, the other half has enough? and that s what is going on. the rich half of the world is pricing out the other half. when china, china has made the cut. china is in the rich half. they re in the haves, not the have nots. and as they get richer and eat more meat the price of wheat goes up and moroccans, libyans, ton esians who live on wheat can t afford to buy it. rose: it s just the demand equation. just the demand equation, yeah. rose: you have had this really amazing ability to see bubbles. where does that come from? just the numbers. there is an enormous pressure in the investment business to deliver good news. trust me. good news sells better, stockbrokers thrive on it. investment houses thrive on it. to go out there in a bubble and talk about badly overpriced markets and downside risks is an invitation to get fired. they simply don t want to hear it as we found, we lost half our book of business in 98 and 99 as the great tech bubble roiled up. you basically said your clients, it s a bubble. it s going to burst and everybody is going to lose. the pricing of the market in late 97 went above 1929. in 97. rose: been the great recession. before at the top of 1929 before the great crash and the great depression, the market was the highest price it had ever been it went above that in 97. and it soared. it was actually 21 dollars for every dollar of earnings and it soared upwards to 35. i mean it was 70% higher than 1929 by the end. rose: okay. but no one was screaming that. the spokespeople for the great investment firm were saying oh, jeremy, don t be hysterical. everything will work out fine. we said look at the numbers. every bubble of an asset class in the financial world has always broken back to the original trend. rose: right. back to the . rose: this is very important. back to 16 times earnings. or 15 times earnings. and here it is at 35, in march of 2000. that is a pretty painful drop. and we had a ten year forecast. our ten year forecast officially distributes to all our clients, so the ten year outlook adjusted for inflation was negative 2%. rose: you generally are early on these things. painfully early. if it decides to go to 35, we weren t that early at 21 which was the 1929 level so we, i think, reasonably with hindsight even reasonably said i hear higher than 29, higher than ever in history, you now want to be defensive if it means to go to 35 because greenspan is a congenital distribute ever of ease and money and subsidized . rose: first rate believer in markets. and markets left to their own devices, which will be honest and straightforward and will look after the subprime instruments. rose: so what s your rule about markets? markets can be from time to time crazily inefficient as we have seen over and over again in history. and any pretense to the contrary is really in defense of some elegant economic theory. economic theory doesn t work with human beings. we re far too messy. so economic theory assumes that we re incredibly well informed. that the buyers know just as well as the sellers which is complete nonsense as everyone knows. and we re rational and cool and keep a cool head. you don t believe that at all. no one believes that, i think, except a handful of professors who made their career promoting an elegant formula based on that assumption. how about fed chairmen, do they believe in that? greenspan, 90% believed from it. and then every now and then he would surprise you by saying the housing market is showing some speculative frenzy. wloops. rose: or irraise exuberance. or irrational exuberance, actually earlier. but still, and then bernanke has inherited a more completely academic view that the markets are pretty efficient. let me talk about you again. japan, you saw the bubble in japan. yes, the japan. rose: you call that the mother of all japan, you know the old story, the land underneath the peferp errors palace was worth more than the state of california. we spent a couple of days researching that. it really was worth more than the state of california. i mean how ridiculous can you get. rose: that was the price of land in tokyo. in tokyo, under the em errors palace. and that was the biggest bubble in the history of the world. that was much worse than the south sea bubble or chile bubble. and right behind it was the japanese stock market bubble. rose: right. that didn t go to 35 times for every dollar of earnings. that went to 65 times. and they had never sold above 25. they went through their old record, they climbed and climbed and then, of course, we were predicting the end of the world and happily. and we had no japanese holdings. it was 60% of the benchmark against which we get measured. and we had none, nothing. rose: right. for a total of almost 7 years we had 0. rose: so what happened toed amount of money you were managing. well, the good news is we underperformed by 10 points a year for three years. then we got it all back with a lot of interest. we lost nothing. we lost nothing for some tre very interesting, important reasons, really. and that is our clients were sitting here watching the crazy japanese. they have very much their own economy, their own culture. and they were able to say wow, that s crazy behavior. and they believed us that sooner or later thing was work out badly and they were not willing to fire us. but when it came here in the tech bubble, most of our committees had a majority of people who believed more or less that it was some sort of golden newera which is what greenspan was saying. the internet was drive away the dark clouds of ig norance and other such nonsense. and how did you know different? we didn t know different. we just looked at the numbers and said every bubble has broken. this is the biggest in history. it will break. japan even bigger t will break. and they all have. rose: dow have some magic formula to define a bubble before we see it. oh, yeah. a bubble we had to make a definition long ago and we decided to have a statistical definition of the kind that would occur every 44 years in a random world. it isn t a random world but it s closer than you think. the kind of event that would occur randomly every 44 year os kurs in the real world every 30 years. it s much closer than we expected. people are getting used to black swans but they aren t as common. rose: so then comes the subprime crisis, did you see that. yes, oh. rose: that was easy. that was absolutely easy. because we were lucky. rose: do you know what it did to the global economy? absolutely. and we said it would, by the way. rose: if it was so easy. we can t do more. i tell you what. rose: are you the only smart man. no, no, not the only one. rose: are you the only smart man in? we talked to about a couple of dozen people, newsletter writers, economyist economists, stock advisors, about a couple of dozen am. they all saw it coming. it was not at all difficult. we re lucky in that we focus on bubbles. the u.s. housing bubble done statistically was a much more impressive bubble than the tech bubble. because the u.s. housing market unlike the stock market had been very stable going back into the midst of time it would bubble in chicago or florida but it would bust in california. so it was perfect. until greenspan and then a great surge of debt pushes up the price of houses, and on our data, it was the kind that would occur randomly every 10,000 years. by the way, bernanke did not see this. he said oh, the u.s. housing market merely reflects a strong u.s. economy. rose: john paulson saw this and became a multibillionaire. did you see it in the same way? and did you act in the same way? my job, just to focus on what i do, ask to inform our clients and write a quarterly letter. rose: don t you have money under management? our team, of 550 people run a hundred different funds. rose: worth over a hundred billion dollars. and i don t hesitate to nag them but i don t have line responsibility. i delivered my . rose: are they listening to jeremy at the time? mostly they do. but you can t you can t run a big firm on imperial fiat am you have to allow a small group of people with self-confidence to make their own decision. but i can tell you what i said. i said i have a problem, dear reader, in that i have been bearish for a long time. the market in my opinion was basically overprice for 20 years. so how am i going to get to you take this seriously. because this is the real mccoy. and i have thought about it for a couple of weeks, and there is it. and this is july 07. i believe at least one major bank will fail. broadly defined, meaning the definition of bank. rose: hello bear stearns. hello bear stearns, leeman, aig, et cetera, et cetera, plus a couple that would have failed but were taken out. plus a couple more very, very big banks like citi that would have failed unless we the tax pay her come to their rescue. rose: was that the good thing to do, come to their rescue? you had to keep a few banks. morgan and wells maybe n business. rose: so you would have let citi. i would have left a couple. rose: would you have let citi go. i would. it would would have sent a shockwave. rose: look what happened when lehman went down t they let it g look what happened. i know, once you let lehman go, i would have let citi go as well in order to make the point that we were not going to stand behind every enterprise that made ludicrous bets and then got bailed out by the taxpayer. then i would have, of course, you have to draw the line. you can t afford a run on the bank. any solvent bank, that famous american christmastime movie shows, if everyone comes to withdrawal their money, they go bust temp orally because it s all tied up in long-term mortgages. and that applies to the banking system. it is universally agreed that the role of a central bank is to make sure that a run on the bank doesn t happen. but it is not agreed that they should support a bank that is insolvent. citi was insolvent. a lot of banks were insolvent. in other words, f you just marked their assets to market they were underwater, they no assets. they had made mistakes. they called the market wrong. they should pay the price. rose: there was this circumstances. standard & poor s, look, and dow jones are approaching record levels. merger activity way up. war en warren buffett and brazilian investors just bought heinz, okay. everybody thinks things are getting better. you seem to say yes, short term, long term no, no, no. correct me. our long-term argument has nothing to do with the market. rose: right. you can do perfectly well in a portfolio in an economies that s growing very little it has to do with profitability. i have no reason to think good companies will not be profitable so this is not about the stock market. that s about the long-term economy, which is going to grow more slowly. rose: so what is this about? so you can make, you can page good money in the long-term in cheap stocks. what it s about is value. if you have a market that becomes overpriced, you will make a return too little given the risk you take. the u.s. market is not too bad for the great franchise companies, the great coke coles. they re not, they re a little bit expense piv. but the balance of the market is very expensive. and it s very expensive because we assume profit margins will go back to normal and prices in every way will go back to normal. back to the trend line. and if we do that, we get miserable 0 returns from the rest of the market in the u.s. now you get better returns overseas. you get almost reasonable returns from emerging market equities. so it s not a terrible situation. 07 was overpriced across the kitchen sink. everything in the world this is merely. rose: it s amazing so few people saw it. well, that isn t true, by the way. i have a story up my sleeve here and that in the you ve been waiting to pull. in the great bubble of 2000, there weren t many people who were willing to debate the bulls. and so they dragged me out over and over again. and i thought if we re going to go down with the ship, we might as well go down with the so i went out and debated them. and my price for giving a talk amongst professionals, say the annual bash of the financial analyst 1200 people in los angeles, was to say how many of you are full-time stock professionals, and 300 people put their hands up. i say just two questions. if the price earnings, the measure of how expensive the market is currently if it goes down to 17, which is trend line, will it guarantee a major bar market? every single one of the 300 agrees. and by the eni had 1200 votes of full-time professionals. so they all agreed, every single one of the 1200 f it went down to 17 times earnings, it guaranteed a major bear market if it happens within a 10 year window. so the jackpot question is how many of you think it will. and it was so shocking to me i had to rephrase the question three times before i would actually . rose: did anybody raise their hand. only seven people thought it would not go down. rose: right. so 99% of the engine room at all the great firms knew very well that the market was vulnerable, would go down and would guarantee a major bear market. but the spokespeople who employed those guys, the spokespeople for the firms were on the podium with me saying oh, we ll muddle through quite nicely. i won t mention their names on the air. but they re very famous people and they said oh don t get hysterical, we ll muddle through. jeremy is always putting down the things. absolutesly. but the people doing the dirty work knew better. they agreed with me. and the reason is simple, being bullish sells. you will not easily hear honest advise when it is bearish. okay. so just in case somebody tuned in to this late, so you are, where are you today? to repeat what you said within we re slightly underweight global equities. heavily underweight in the u.s. outside the quarter of the market that are the great coca-cola franchise companies. and i m not touting coca-cola. i m just using them as a generic. yeah. so it s not a terrible outlier situation like japan that we described or so on. it s just be careful when you re buying ode american do you see a bubble out there? well, the nis thing about bubbles is you don t have to predict them, you just wait and see. and when you see one you jump. rose: are you seeing one. you want me to guess. rose: yes, i want to you guess. what bubble and when? i think bernanke is as i was writing, is whipping this donkey that can only grow at 1%, this economy, because he thinks it s a racehorse that should be growing at 3. so he s going to keep on wliping this donkey. this donkey can t run. until it either drops dead or turns into a racehorse. yeah, right. and you are betting on dead. and i m betting on dead so, it is a very unsafe situation to have the most powerful person in the economic world by far. rose: but he s trying to do something. he s trying to use the fed to create employment, how about that. they don t have the tools to generate employment. they shouldn t have that in their mandate. they should just have in their mandate. so it won t do it. absolutely not. you need fiscal means. if you have people unemployed, by all means do useful projects to employ them. go and install sensible solar panels, what i am trying to say is insulation. go and insurance late every northeast and every cold area, it will have a high societal return. you ll never regret it. redo the grid system. he ll never regret it. so in other words, you re saying if you want to create jobs, create jobs to build something we need. absolutely. and debt is vastly exaggerated which is a huge, huge debt is exaggerated. a huge topic. so you and paul krugman are right on. one of the same voice. let me tell you something about debt. in 1982, if you added all the debt up it was 1 and a quarter times the size of the gdp. and then, and it had been fairly flat for a long time, drifting slowly up. and then it kinked 45 degrees and it goes shooting up steadily without too much volatility. just goes straight up. when was that. 82, 1982. and it goes steadily upwards to 3.5 times. so we had this amazing. when ronald reagan was president, 82. yes, right. and so we had this amazing experiment. the biggest economy in the world. almost tripling its ratio of debt. over a block of time that really counts, 30 years. and what happened in terms of the growth rate of the system, it slowed way down. now there are other reasons. i grant you that. but there s no room in that equation to believe that increasing debt has anything to do with long-term growth. is there? that you triple it, what more can you do, and the growth rate of our system slowed materially? it s so contrary, isn t it. they are the facts. they are so contrary to the general belief. we have been conned into believing by the financial world that debt is everything. let a bank go, oh my god it would be the enof the world there are plenty of reasons why this economy coulds lad, by the way, quite sufficient. you don t even have to use anything to do with the collapse of the financial system. we had a housing bust. we had a housing one and 10,000 year event. if that was to go back to trend, you were going to lose 10, 11, 12 trillion dollars. everyone was going to feel poor. it was going to devastate consumer spending and consumer confidence. secondly you had the price of oil triple. look what happened in the oil crisis of 74 and 79. they a big recession each time. so you not only tripled the price of oil, you tripled the price of food, you tripled the price of k07er, of all the metals. why would that not have caused a major recession. they had three great reasons. the housing market collapsed and commodities just squeezed you to death. you don t need a third reason to explain why we had the most serious recession. and housing market alone explains why it has been very, very slow to recover. because there s nothing more dangerous than messing with houses. so you are, you are an unre you were just a pure keynesian. i am a a pure numbers guy. but are you causes me to shall did are you not? no, i wouldn t is a say thatness why would you not say that. because i m a great admirer of chapter 12 of the general they are general theory which is about the stock market. he was wonderful in the stock market. he was about 60 years ahead of the economic world. you don t know how many years ahead he was because they still haven t caught up. he basically said it s animal spirits, guys, that can mess up everything. and he pointed out the game we play in the stock market is managing your career. never make a bet on your own. would keynes have agreed with you about debt? i don t know. i really don t know. it s such a different world now. the levels of get are so much higher. we probably have some ingenuous new theory. okay am but most people believe that we do have, i mean they look at the percentage of gdp to debt or debt to gdp. i can prove that debt does not generate long-term growth. i have given you the numbers. it does not prevent. it doesn t cause long-term growth it doesn t create it. debt, we triple the debt and gdp growth rate went down. there is no evidence that increasing debt increases gdp. and yet that mandate has been given to bernanke who thinks apparently that it does. by keeping interest rates low, you re transferring money away from retirees who spend every penny and are really hurting. and by the way, there s far more of them every year now than there ever was when economic theories were being panned out. you take money from them, and who are the beneficiaries. the guys who run the hedge dpunds. and the banking system in general. and speculators. and corporations theoretically can use it to build. but they re building less now than practically in history. there is no major league capital spending boom going on. what should be the levels, for example of new revenues to spending cuts? let me say i am not an expert in this. and i don t want to represent myself as such. it is wickedly complicated. i have enough trouble in the stock market where life is simple. the economy is extremely difficult. the debt in the long run is not as significant as people think. how you manage debt is an art form. right. whether you do it this year, next year, how you spread these things out. how high is too high, i have not spent my career in those areas. i feel, i guess that it s substantially too high. i guess that you shouldn t try and make it low in a hurry but you should have a 20 year plan to chip away. that is what i was we ve gotten into a bit of a rat hole and we should be careful getting out of it. but it is not the overwhelming thing that will dominate our future. what it does is it distracts us from the real world. debt is an accounting world. it s paper. the real world is the quantity and quality of your people. and the quantity and quality of your capital spending. are you building new machines. are you building inventive. are you training your people. is your high school system delivering the same education that it used to relative to the south koreans, relative to the norwegians, no it s not. we should worry more about the real world and less about the paper world. and shower s in this death grip that only paper things matter. and so there is much too little attention spent on educate education, training, capital spending, finding a way to beef it up. and also i would rather stimulate the economy directly through government spending than i would like to play games with the monetary system. and games with the interest rate. inflicting great wounds on retirees and so on. and transferring wealth to people who won t spend it. transferring wealth from the poor to the rich by keeping interest rates low. i m not even sure the economy gains at all by a low-interest rate. and furthermore no one is established convincingly that it is a good idea. it s a tradition that is a good idea. that s not the same. we ve had lots of traditions like the market would look after itself. people wouldn t be crooks because economic theory assumes that they re not. but they often were crooks, and greedy and short-term oriented and willing to dance until the music stopped. although they said the music had actually stopped long before. rose: thank you. thank you. rose: it s been a great pleasure. yes, it was fun. rose: lots of things you have said that i think people will think about and talk about and we will continue the conversation at another time. i look forward to it. as we have more numbers. yes. rose: jeremy grantham, thank you for joins joining us. wilt s see you next time captioning sponsored by rose communications captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org . funning for charlie rose has been provided by the coca-cola company, supporting this program since 2002. and american express. additional funding provided by these funders. and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. this is nightly business report. lucky number seven. the dow and s&p 500 posted a seven-day winning streak. and the dow set, you guessed it, another all time high. investors are re-examining their retirement portfolio. and women in the workplace. cheryl sandburg ignited a fire storm with her new book. we will weigh in. good evening and welcome to our public television viewers. early in the day, maybe not so much. but by the end of the day, absolutely true. stocks did overcome a flat and maybe even down-ish open. that pushed the blue chip dow index. quite a streak. the dow added 50 points to close up 14.447. and the s&p 500 rose five points. it is less than ten points away from its own record close. more than half of all americans are invested in stocks and bonds with most of that money in retirement savings plans. with the s&p 500 closing in on its own, many of us are following the markets more closely than ever, retooling our accounts and seeing if the 401 ks are getting bigger every day. jane wells has more. reid ruker is checking his 401k again. i have looked at it more in the last four months. and investors like him are starting to call financial adviso advisors. the
i first met ruth payne invited a russian immigrant, marina oswald to live with her while her husband looked for a job. lee harvey oswald. basically he was saying he didn t like the u.s., and they went to the soviet union thinking it would be better, but tfrtn t better. ruth thinks oswald was the lone assassin. it s not that i had known the assassin, but that we lost a really wonderful president. and all the things that he might have been able to do. my fellow americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. he gave people hope, optimism. a presidential historian s latest book called camelot court. it s a shining moment in history. the idea that he was something special. november 22, 1963, the day give begins with an excited welcome for president kennedy outside his ft. worth texas hotel. outside dallas, oswald is going to work with a rifle. i think it never occurred to michael that there might be a gun. it is 8:45 central time. in less than four hours, president kennedy will be dead. back inside the hotel, jacqueline kennedy makes a grand entrance. i m getting that same sensation. john kennedy was highly intelligent, witty, and charming man. after breakfast, the kennedys fly to dallas, a stop some of his advisors thought was unfriendly territory. they landed at love field at 11:37 a.m., for the next leg of their two-day trip. the election is two months away. secret service agent clint hill is assigned to protect mrs. kennedy. the crowds were enormous outside the city of dallas. traveling with the president are vice president john connelly and his wife nellie. he headed into the crowd to shake hands. they shake hands, because the whole idea of being there in texas was to demonstrate his popularity, and his appeal. 11:50 a.m. t motorcade leaves love field for lunch at the trade mart. as the clock ticks away on kennedy s life, people like abraham zapruda film his last minutes. the crowd was very exuberant, very friendly. some people are on balconies and on rooftops. toward the end of the parade, we had to i remember seeing the motorcade turn right on houston street. bill and gail newman are the closest eyewitnesses, they re on the grassy noll. i turned around to the president. and i said, mr. president, you can t say that dallas doesn t love you. just as we were approaching the book depository. oswald has a clear shot from hiss sniper s perch on the sixth floor, but he doesn t take it. we made the last turn on to elm. we saw the car turning towards us. i was standing there in the grassy area. we had gone, i suspect150, 200 feet when i heard what i thought was a rifle shot. i heard this explosion noise over my right shoulder. i immediately started to scan towards that noise. i saw president kennedy grabbing his throat. so i jumped and ran toward the presidential car. i was turning to look over my shoulder. i was hit. i was knocked over. james tague is standing in the median of the triple underpass. a fragment puts a woungd on his face. tague s testimony is first ignored by the government, suggesting one of oswald s three shots missed the car. i heard mrs. kennedy say, they have shot my husband. as we got closer, i could see that something was wrong. i could see governor connelly stretched out in the car, and president kennedy was looking into the crowd with a puzzled look on his face. as i approached the presidential vehicle, i was almost there. and i heard another shot. the eruption of blood and brain matter and bone fragments came over the car and over me. i then managed to get up on the back of the car, and the driver hit the gas and the car surged floor. and i slipped. and i took a short step and continued to get back up on the car. mrs. kennedy was trying to retrieve some of the material that came on the back of the car. i grabbed her and put her in the back seat. unfortunately, i wasn t able to get there. his eyes were fixed, there was a hole in the upper right rear of the skull. i screamed at the driver to get us to a hospital. we thought the shots had come from over our heads, behind us, from the grassy noll. they like some others were never interviewed by the fbi. their statements to the media and police did not support the conclusion of the lone gunman. the fatal head shot came from the left rear. federal investigator felt the in my research at the archives, i was one of the few private citizens to be given access to the magic bullet, the president s clothing, and the bullet fragments. orr wrote a detailed analysis on his own time. he spoke skooufly the fbi tested some of the fibers and found tiny pieces of human skin still on it. could this break through in a mod everyone crime lab finally confirm or dismiss the lone assassin conclusion? 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[ beep ] gotta go. at any mfraud could mean blower credit scores. gotta go. and higher interest rates when you apply for a credit card. it s a problem waiting to happen. check your credit score, check your credit report at experian.com. if le lee harvey oswald wasn t the lone assassin, who else had the skill to murder the president in a moving, open limousine and get away with it. the first thing robert kennedy did when he heard that his brother was killed, was call the house and secure his files. they don t want johnson or hoover getting those files. jfk did not trust linden johnson, hated him. they had been taught that by their father, always protects the president. mark lane was one of the first to question the government s findings that oswald was the lone assassin. blaming oswald and having osz walled killed. no trial. more than 40 years ago, lane published his book rush to judgment. i was contacted by the central intelligence agency. 50 years later, a clear majority of americans don t believe the warren commission s lone gunman conclusion. linden johnson early warren to hear it. when earl warren was brought into linden johnson s office, he broke into tears because he knew the burden that had been put on his shoulders. we have got to take this out of the arena where they re testifying that krusz che and castro did this. world war 3 might break out because the trail might point toward cuba and ultimately russia. the commission was supposed to investigate the assassination. the warren commission in the end, just flat ass lied to us. garry cornwell was deputy chief council on assassinations. he reopened kennedy s case in 1967 to see if there was a conspiracy. that memo that he wrote to bill moyers who were president johnson s white house assistant, they wanted a blue ribbon panel of highly respected people to convince the american public that lee harvey oswald was the sole asass seven. 50 years later, ypeople still have doubts about the investigation. because it wasn t a clear investigation, and i have some unanswered questions, but there s no doubt that oswald killed him. he was such a crazy guy that he could have confederates that were helping him in some way. did the fbi, did they drop the ball in their tagging of oswald? the fbi was watching oz waltd, but they never really took him seriously as a threat. the fbi came out and left his card and visited and came out a second time as well. i gave the card to oswald when he came out on the weekend. my feeling was, sure the fbi is going to want to know where he is. he s been in the soviet yu unio he s been back. the cold war was in full tilt. after oswald was killed, hosti said he destroyed the letter. but that wwasn t known until 20 later. most people heard three shots, three empty shells were found in the sniper s nest in the depository. garry mack, the sixth floor museum cure rate for. even though some people heard more. i believe when james tague had indicated that he had possibly been the victim of a bullet or a bullet fragment. the warren commission had a bit of a problem. they no longer had three shots that hit three targets in the limousine. the commission s revised conclusion was the single bullet theory, one bullet that wound. all of the things that should be done in a homicide case, were never done by the warren commission. if it was a conspiracy, they would do whatever the minimal investigation they thought was required to drop it. 15 years after the warren commission, the hsca concluded the assassination was probably the result of a conspiracy, partially based on controversial acoustics testing that proposed a second shooter was behind the grassy noll. but if oswald did not act alone, who was he working with? who else wanted president kennedy dead? the russians had motive. the right wingers in the south had motive. the kennedy administration was trying to undermine fidel castro s cuban dictator ship. it is clear the forces of come in addition are not to be underestimated in cuba or anywhere in the world. he confronted a person, behind the fence and the man had secret service credentials, let s remember, the cia created all the credentials. garry cornwell offers a different conclusion. mafia come police si. we can t discount the possibility that individual members did not have a role in the assassination. is there new evidence linking organized crime to the assassination? and later, why one man insists the honestly, i m a little old fashione i love chalk and erasers. but change is coming. all my students have the brand new surface. it has the new windows and comes with office, has a real keyboard, so they can do real work. they can u bing smartsearch to find anything in the world. or last night s assignment. and the battery lasts and lasts, so after school they can skype, play games, and my favorite.do homework. change is looking pretty good after all. the recent increase in cafeteria prices is not cool. when you vote for flo, we ll have discounts. ice-cream discounts. multi-cookie discounts. pizza loyalty discounts! 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[ silence ] finding you discounts since back in the day. call or click today. i like her. as we re surrounded by these stunning imageses of jacqueline kennedy here at the museum. we re also reminded that strip club owner jack ruby claimed that he killed oswald so the first lady would not have to sit through a lengthy trial. was oswald s murder just a loan act. did you kill the president? nobody has said that to me yet. just two days after the assassination of john f. kennedy. accused killer lee harvey woz walled i attempted to turn oswald behind me, but i was too close to him. we ll never know what oswald was going to say. was he just a lone nut case? a trial might have answered questions of conspiracy, but with oswald dead, investigators focused on ruby. how was he able to get that close to the most wanted man in the world. because all the cops in dallas liked him because he gave them free stuff including hookers. the actions by ruby in shootishoot ing oswald were not spontaneous in that he probably had assistance. he examined ruby s activities and unusual access to police headquarters. i certainly believe that officer dean who was in charge of security let jack ruby into the basement. pat trick dean s involvement has remained a question. he had failed a polygraph at the time of the investigation. investigation i m not sure was turned over to the fbi. but ruby s time with law enforcement went beyond dallas. j. edgar hoover said back in 69 that they had had regular contact with jack ruby. david kaiser is a historian and author of the road to dallas. he couldn t make the payoff. he was looking for help wherever he could get it. jack ruby made calls to individuals associated with organized crime. the report aboutruby s sister, ruby got a phone call right at this time and went in the other room and threw up. maybe he got a phone call that said, ruby, we need you to do something for us. but mark lane insists the cia had the means and the motive to kill kennedy. the cia decided better him than us and killed him. following the disastrous attempt to topple castro in the bay of pigs invasion, the president was furious with the cia. this was a struggle of cuban patriots. castro s troops outnumbered the cia-backed operation. the president felt humiliated and promised to, quote, splinter the cia into 1,000 pieces. he already had plans to set up a new intelligence agency where robert kennedy was going to head this new vacancy. what robert kennedy didn t know when he first came into office, was that they had been recruited by the cia, but also marcello to assassinate fidel castro. they had enterprises, gambling, horseracing, they wanted to get back into the business of making money in cuba. two months before kennedy s murder, odds walled applied for a cuban visa at the cuban embassy in new york city. oswald was try there were numerous such plots, they were ongoing in 1963. some were organized by the cia, some by the mob, exactly who was behind this one, i don t know. but the mob grew angrier with the attorney general s all out war against organized crime. did you say that sob, i ll break his back. if they could kill john kennedy, linden johnson would become president. they hated each other bitterly and that would be the end of robert kennedy. cornwell tracked mob indictments during the hsca. this enormously effective organized crime program that bobby kennediy eheaded at the department of justice disintegrated after john f. kennedy was assassinated. he was in the united states illegally. he was not a citizen. our investigation led us to a special sting operation in 1985. fbi files recombed through at the national archives reveal informant jack van landingham shared a cell with ruby. he told us about jack ruby, marcello had met him in dallas, texas. he was talking about his favorite subject, the kennedys and being deported. hi flew into a rage, cussing the kennedys, he said yeah, i had that little sob killed and i would do it again. marcello of course denied it and that indicated to me that there was an informal report to that effect. the fbi has the classified recordings and then landingham says the tapes also have marcello naming oswald as his hired gun. you got to explain ruby and oswald. both of them had years associations with mafia figures, and ruby knew the head of the mafia in dallas. oswald had grown up in new orleans. his uncle, dutch moraff. that s the reason the mafia case is probably the stronger of any of them. next, how a 3-d animation next, how a 3-d animation along with the for over a decade millions have raised their hand for the proven relief of the purple pill. and that relief could be in your hand. for many, nexium helps relieve heartburn symptoms from acid reflux disease. find out how you can save at purplepill.com. there is risk of bone fracture and low magnesium levels. side effects may include headache, abdominal pain, and diarrhea if you have persistent diarrhea, contact your doctor right away. 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[ female announcer ] now with kellogg s family rewards you can get even more from the products you love. join today at kfr.com. welcome back to our program. 50 years of questions, the jfk assassination, i m bill hemmer. the year was 1963 and the air of the modern crime lab we see on csi, it was still decades away. but new computer technology can describe how a rifle bullet like this became a single bullet conclusion back then. there was some question as to whether president kennedy was struck by one or two bullets. this is the gun that fired the shot. it s a bolt action rifle. lou keg, a forensic firearms expert believes oswald acted alone and supports the warren commission single bullet theory. oswald put a bullet through kennedy that went on to hit connelly. it did exactly what it s supposed to do, it got two with one shot. it s microwave radiation, it follows a bullet right through the object and through the other side. the wound ballistic labs had never fired it. they shot animals, they shot meat, they shot gelitan. investigator allen specter, he created the controversial single bullet theory. which is admittedly an extraordinary path of a bullet. president kennedy was hit in the back of the neck and slashed his trachea, exited through his tie. the bullet entered the governor s right armpit. it exited from his chest, leaving a four-inch hole under his right nipple, went through his wrist, and lodged in his thigh. sometimes truth is stranger than ficti fiction. but in 50 years, our ability to enhance visual images has gotten better. with a new digitized version of the zapruda film really indicates that there are questions about the single bullet theory. governor connelly believes he was hit by a single second shot and not a bullet attributed to the single butt let theory. the president slumped simultaneously. as i turned, i was hit. if you look at the trajectory, there was no way that bullet would have struck governor connelly behind the right armpit. dr. sero wect has been challenging that theory for years. i think it s important to be as realistic as we can. we ll use a different car than the limb zone in question, or not even the same model. because kennedy s car was unavailable. the secret service car was used. but both rows of seats were a different height. the stand in for the president, was measured ten inches higher when measured off the street. the commission tried to make allowances for the different dimensions and the single bullet theory was born. we compared john orr s analysis to our own animation, based on the enhanced version of the zapruda film. this is the second shot at z 236. and we have used the actual zapruda frame, it exactly matches the positions of the bodies. this is not a restructuring photograph in order to make sinmake they moved connelly over to his left. to get the right armpit lined up. that bullet indeed would have continued on, missing john connelly and could well have been the bullet that went on to strike the windshield in the car. given that oswald in his window in the sixth floor, was at all times to the right rear of the limb zone, is there any way that oswald could have fired this single head shot? with the president s head in the position, there s no way that that head shot could have been fired by oswald. the animate for actually set up the positions of the bodies, and it led to this spot in the county records building annex and if you were going to fire the shot to mimic oswald s angle as close as possible from the different buildings, this would be the logical place. the warren commission determined only three shots were fired. orr disagrees. this shot was fired about three-quarters of a second a after the fatal head shot. if i m to believe you, this has to be incredible coordination. not indiacredible these are hard military bullets. you can see the lead corps, that s where the lead fragments come from. it s an expanding soft point bullet. the jacket peels back as soon as it enters tissue or a skull. the snowflaking pattern seen in the president s brain and the x rays of the skull raises a serious question, because military ammunition should not beginni begin to ddisintegrate in that fashion. whether it s softed nosed or hard bone, the bullets will strike the skull and be left behind. military bullets are unique in several respects. it s got to be a bullet that stays instability. now let s shooth the same bullet weight, 160 grain bullet. but it s a soft point, it s an expanding bullet. the same kind of target, and you ll see something very different. everything was recorded on the doppler, it shows honestly, as much as i love this job, i plato do a lot more. i need a new laptop for my pre-med classes, something that runs office and has a keyboard. but i wanted a tablet for me, for stuff like twitter and xbox, so my downtime can be more like uptime. that s why i got a windows 2 in 1 which does both works as a laptop and a tablet. so i can manage my crazy life, and also have life. 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like esurance for example they were born online and built to save people money from the beginning. that s what they ve always ne. not just somhing they.cheep about. that s insurance for the modern world. esurance. now backed by allstate. click or call. the moment president kennedy s body left dallas, the investigation would be riddled with doubts and suspicion. mistakes were made during his autopsy. and many tried to keep jfk s health history a family secret. these two reasons helped fuel many conspiracy theories. president kennedy has been given a blood transfusion at park land hospital. there s so many things about this case that just cry out, what in the world was going on here? the government decided to keep things secret. doctors michael baud and seral wect agree that the president s botched. if the autopsy had been done by a board certified pathologist, there would be no doubt where the bullet holes were. protocols were broken, starting with the body itself. they had improperly moved the body to bethesda. we didn t want mrs. kennedy sitting there for a long period of time. hands on guns, a lot of profanity, actual physical threats. it became somewhat heated and they forced their way out. to call in two people who had never done a gunshot wound case, this is unbelievable. dr. hume should not have been chosen to do the autopsy. dr. hume s never identified the exact locations of the wounds. by the time the autopsy is finished, lots of mistakes had been made. there was a naval photographer who was trained to take autopsy photos. and then exposing the film and chases him out of the autopsy room. they had somebody else from the secret service who had never taken photos of a dead body and didn t take the right photos. a lot of problems in terms of how the documentation of the autopsy was conducted. bobby kennedy wanted to protect that president kennedy had addison s disease. the adrenal glands are not mentioned in the autopsy report. he was taking all sorts of med skins, steroids and painkillers. bobby kennedy told his brother jack, who knows what s in this stuff. and kennedy said, i don t care if there s horse piss in this, it makes me feel better. adding to the secrecy, the warren commission with held gruesome autopsy photographs from evidence. come conspiracy theoryists think the photos were tampered with. john orr believes he noticed something the forensics panel dismissed. a disk that he says proves that kennedy s head shot was not from oswald s rifle. the rifle that oswald was firing does not have a 6.4 millimeter disk. that was just part of the bullet fragment. dr. baud still maintains there was only one gunman, while dr. wect believes there were more. there was a different kind of bullet that has a circular disk at its base which can then become detached upon impact with the skull. the presence of the circular disk rules out any doubt this orr found another piece of evidence that points to a second shooter, a bone fracture in the president s back. dr. wect who had never considered a bone fracture agrees. you can see a clear defect there at the level of the first thoracic vertebrae. orr says after the bullet hit kennedy s back it hit bone and traveled upwards. the warren commission the panel s measurements were wrong. instead he used the hsca s dimensions, which placed the wound about four inches lower. the only thing that s going to cause it to be defect tiff would be something firm and here that means bone. i decemberisagree with that, not thick enough to cause any kind of bone anrnold purdi as i look a those facts that the bodies lined up, that speed and the angle and the impact of a bullet, i came to conclude, much to my shock the single bullet here which was possible. single bullet theory people say that the bullet was yawing or tumbling. i examined governor connelly s back and it was struck sideways. but the doctor who actually treated connelly at park land is a strong indication that the governor was struck by a completely different bullet from kennedy s. he said it was not indicative of a tumbling or yawing. if they reexamine governor connelly s clothes, what would you be able to prove? the punchout holes in the shirt and the coat leading into that back industry wound, they re all completely consistent, typical of a pristine bullet. photos and x rays proved to orr the governor s wrist injury was actually from a third shot through the head, not from the magic bullet. when i saw the picture from the zapruda film, i drew a line from the governor s strong confirmation to orr, the wrist wound was caused by a tumbling missile. it s a perfect shot almost dead center to the back of the head, far beyond oswald s capability. it came from a different shooter from a different building. from a different building. it exited above the year and ou could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. mmmhmmm.everybody knows that. well, did you know that old macdonald was a really bad speller? your word is.cow. cow. cow. c.o.w. .e.i.e.i.o. [buzzer] dangnabbit. geico. fifteen minutes could save you.well, you know. i love chalk and erasers. but change is coming. all my students have the brand new surface. it has the new windows and comes with office, has a real keyboard, so they can do real work. they can u bing smartsearch to find anything in the world. or last night s assignment. . . . and m . . u. for 50 years, there had been persistent questions about this case. what happened in the missing frames of the zapruda film. in the late 1990s suddenly, that testing stopped. i saw his head practically open up, all blood and everything. i think that pretty well expresses the entire feelings of the whole world. this is a very strange sensation being up here with a camera, identical to what zapruda used. then when kennedy s limousine appeared, he followed the car staying in the center lane and then shot started being fired. and how he was able to keep filming, i don t know. kodak developed his .8 millimeter film. he sold the original to life magazine for $150,000. it s the only complete film of the assassination known to exist. four frames were damaged to the point that they could not be reinserted into the film. where you see president kennedy s head literally explode, that takes about four frames also. so clearly, a lot can happen in those missing frames. the warren commission thought kennedy was first shot between frames 210 and 225. you can see kennedy who was wounded and connelly reacting. but not necessarily at the same point in time. rarely seen by researchers, we located a secret service copy of the film and 35 millimeter enlargementses of the missing frames. the four missing frames have been extremely hard to come by over the years. these missing frames allow us to see what experts refer to as the jiggle effect. it s when zaprud erker flinched the sound of the gunshots. these are flames that are a split second after that. the missing frames indicate a strong jiggle effect at 209. orr believes it helps confirm the first shot by oswald at 204. the first shot was aiming at the president s head. he missed it by more than a foot down low. five bullet fragments were recovered from inside the limb zone. the fragment that was found on the front seat of the limousine, went through the president s back, exited above his neck and hit the chrome strip above the windshield. he spotted some trace evidence still attached to it and wrote his own gunshot analysis. the justice department originally recommended that i be basically detached from my regular job with the anti-trust division to work with the fbi in setting up this test and helping them carry it out. if orr s analysis proved correct, it would destroy the single bullet theory and scientifically prove a two-money began theory. the national archives turned to a unique expert to test orr s discovery. there were fragments of material on the bullet that killed president kennedy. dr. michael i was called in on this case because these fragments had become dried out and mummified. they were all maybe two or three millimeters in the greatest dimension. and i felt that it would be worth while to rehydrate them for microscopic examination. and zimmerman found something remarkable. this is skin and muscle tissue. it could be from literally anywhere in the body. while technology still can t determine the part of the body the skin came from, sophisticated dna tests can match it to the blood in kennedy s clothing. could that tissue have come from the scalp of the president? i didn t find any hair. could it have come from the wrist of the governor? there s never anything wrong with investigating things. again, and a positive result can lead you someplace else. there are things that some of the top dna testing laboratories are doing today that were not available 20 and 15 years a ago. so you re talking about key evidence that absolutely should be re-evaluated at this time. dna, remember, has no temporal death testing. we showed the fbi memo by the u it it suggested a bat think of tests including fiber analysis. all these other tests, i don t think they were actually ordered by the fbi, at least not from my reading of the report. we asked the fbi for a comment about the test and they responded, it would not be appropriate for the fbi to revisit the results of forensic tests conducted on the material already included in the narrow release. i expected all that material to be tested, to be scientifically analyzed to determine if they could isolate what those white cotton fibers were, what the other apparent miscellaneous fibers were, what the little black speck was and they weren t, according to their own report. our investigation also found this bullet worksheet omitted from the hsca s final report in 1979. it again refers to the same fibrous material on the same fragment and recommended further analysis. in 2013, the level of testing we have now is so further advanced that we have ever had, would you be opposed to further testing? no i would not be opposed to further testing at all. it would be interesting to see what the findings are, not just the skin, but also the muscle tissue on the slide. those fragments of tissue can yield dna. they found small black particles that they suggested was ammunition residue, but they made no effort to confirm that. why not complete that testing? i agree with what you say, a lot can be learned. i don t think anything that s going to be learned is going to satisfy all the different conspiracy theorists. congress passed the jfk act in 1992 so americans could have access to some 5 million government pages. it also requires all asass nation records to go public by the year 2018, unless they jeopardy national security. from the museum in washington, d.c., thanks for watching, i m d.c., thanks for watching, i m bill hemmer. overmany discounts to thine customers! 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necessarily mean britain army rebel groups right now. the french have been a little more forceful, but the issue will now be passed to foreign ministers to decide. the current embargo expires at the end of may. if no compromise is found, britain and france could choose to let the embargo last and then go it alone. that would be controversial, but they have certainly use the second anniversary of the conflict to send a message we are not doing enough. overr more on the debate whether to arm the rebels and what if anything the major powers can do to stop the with georgee spoke w. bush s national security adviser. a year ago, you argue that farming syria s rebels was desperately required. where do you stand now? series rebelsg was desperately required. we are late. we should have done more before now. will britain and france get anywhere? i certainly hope so. that would have a good impact within the united states. we have a new secretary of state. i know he is assessing the situation. that could be an opportunity for a renewed dialogue within the administration about what we should be doing, but if britain and france were to take the lead and, particularly, if they could bring the eu as a whole are around to their point of view, that would be a huge breakthrough. arms ship from here? i would hope so. if we are not willing to do that, then i hope one of the things we would do is to coordinate the flow of arms that come from other countries. so as best we can and this is an imperfect science as best we can, those arms get into groups that support the syrian national coalition, that support and inclusive cross- sectarian syria, that those opposition groups and fighters get weapons. rather than the current situation where most of the weapons are going to the more extremist elements and to the al qaeda-related organization in syria. that is a big concern, is it not? we saw that weapons from the libyan conflict ended up in mali. where, potentially, could arms and up if they were shipped to the rebels in syria? one of the issues was after gaddafi fell, we did not get on the ground in an active way to try to help the libyan authorities stabilize the situation, so, as a consequence, both weapons and fighters went from libya into syria and into mali, for example. there are arms going into syria now, and the people who have those arms, which are increasingly extremist, are using those to knock over arsenals of the syrian army and seizing more arms in syria. my point is this there are arms going in now. they are going to the most extreme elements. that is not a good situation. let s level the playing field and get some arms into some groups that are more willing to have an inclusive and democratic solution. do you think that could potentially tip the balance against the president at this point? i think it is remarkable how well the under-armed opposition groups are doing. one of the things they keep complaining about is they cannot match the heavy weapons of syria, which is tanks and aircraft. if we would give them anti-tank weapons and anti-aircraft weapons limited numbers i think they can create their own no-fly zones and their own no- tank zone. we do not need to put boots on the ground. we do not, in my view, need air operations over syria. what we need to do is to enable these fighters, the ones that we hope would be the basis for a more moderate syrian regime, to give them the weapons so that they can equalize the situation on the ground and topple assad. thank you for joining us. nice to be here. an internal report by the british minister of defense says nato cannot with its campaign against the insurgents in afghanistan purely through military efforts. the report says there are extraordinary similarities between the nato operation and the failed soviet invasion of afghanistan. after weeks of political maneuvering, the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, has reached a deal with the former coalition government. they could sign an agreement on friday. for the first time in a decade, there will be no ultraorthodox parties included in the coalition government. the body of the late president of venezuela has arrived at the military museum where it will be laid to rest. tens of thousands of venezuelans have lined the streets of caracas to catch a glimpse of the hearse carrying mr. chavez s body to its final resting place. venezuela will hold an election to choose a successor to hugo chavez on april 15. a bbc team deming the members of the movement for democratic change were caught up in the a bbc team filming the members of the movement. our correspondent reports. zimbabwe is supposed to be on the mend. peaceful campaigning today for a new constitution supported by all major parties. elections were due to follow suit. but look how quickly the mood can change. i will not allow you, she says. the attackers are supporters of president mugabe. the man they are beating now is planning to run for parliament .or the rival party this is how politics works on the ground here. s supporters then turn on us. we are journalists! well, that was not pleasant. the crowds turned on us. it is a pretty stark reminder of the violence that comes to the surface here. people in zimbabwe long for peace. they long for democracy. they long for free and fair elections. but they continue to abuse the justbwean, as you have witnessed. justesident mugabe has turned in. runpproved, he could zimbabwe four more years. organizations that work on the elections. andhere is still optimism some real progress here. things are a worrying reminder of the nation s unresolved tension. in the u.s., the defense secretary announced today that the military is taking a number of steps to defend against an attack from north korea. the plan included adding 14 interceptors to a missile defense system in alaska. hagel said the move is designed to stay ahead of the threat from north korea. to discuss the move is the director of the center on international security. is this announcement aimed more at north korea or iran? i think it is definitely aimed more at north korea for a couple of reasons. one, the missile defense plan the administration announced was very much focused on iran. aheadt of tries to stay of the iranian threat. i think this is more focused on north korea because we have seen developments recently over the last six months that are troubling in terms of their capability to have long-range missiles to hit the u.s. they launched a satellite into orbit. it did not stay in orbit very long, but it did demonstrate the technology needed for long-range missiles and the recent nuclear test as well, so this is staying ahead of the threat, i think. not beinterceptors will deployed until 2015. the prudent measure for the 2018 time frame when north korea might have that amount, we are talking about a couple of dozen intercontinental missiles around that time frame. it is a prudent measure for them. i expected a little more about today. in other words, the deterrence today is very strong. there s 20,000 u.s. forces, very strong alliance, but i think that ally needs reassurance. i would have expected more enhancement to our posture in the region, moving ships that can launch missile defense interceptors, adding counter battery fire to deal with the north korean military threat, a little more insurance to our new ally, the new president in south korea. how much do we know about north korea s capability and how much it would take for nuclear missiles? it is clear they have tested one missile that could launch a satellite into space that tells us they could probably launch a missile that could range to another continent including the u.s. would it be accurate? nope. will it be any time soon? no, but in a few years i would say three, four, five likely there is the danger that this country could do something like that. would they do something? are they that crazy? no, because of the deterrent, the military posture we have in place. this adds to it, and i agree with your suggestion. it does not add a lot, especially for today, but it does help a little bit. will south korea be reassured? the most important part of the package was the second step that was mentioned, and that is whichr radar in japan will help to defend japan as well as the u.s.. it will help to look into north korea and helped target them. that does a lot to reassure japan. what i would like to see is more cooperation between japan and south korea because they have faced this threat. the u.s. has been trying. i think we need to try a little bit harder. thanks for joining us. you are welcome. there s no place for pessimism. while he has only been on the job for two days, the vatican has already been answering questions. it strongly rejects claims that pope francis stayed silent during systematic human rights abuses in argentina three decades ago. just a few days ago, some of these men dreamt of being elected pope, but for now was gone.their chants this man was chosen. the vatican is a bit like enable monarchy. medieval monarchs. let s never surrender to pessimism, he said, as he urged the cardinals to take the fate to the four corners of the world. every thought he expresses, everything he does is being held up to the like. very down to earth. after cardinal was moved he was elected. his first gesture was to go halfway down the sistine chapel to greet the cardinals. it was a touching thing to do. the area has been elected, and his first here he is, being elected the head of the church, to his first gesture is reach out. journalists have been hearing dr. stories about this new pope s past darker stories. there has never been an accusation concrete or credible in his regard. argentinian justice interrogated him several times one time, they interrogated him as a person who was informed of the facts, involve in the facts, but nothing was ever computed against him. pope francis has only been in charge of the vatican a few days, and already, he is having to deal with a serious controversy. you are watching bbc world news america. still to come on tonight s program, getting ready for an adventure to enacted. these wounded combat veterans are off on a race that will put their endurance to the test. artistic director of russia s bolshoi ballet was nearly blinded in an attack in january. he has been speaking at the clinic where he is being treated. he is being treated at the biggest hospital in germany. his public appearance today was dramatic and theatrical. a russian journalist gave him flowers. at one stage, he raised his hand in front of his face to show how doctors tested his sight by asking him how many fingers he could see. the attack that led to those injuries happen on january 17. a masked man confronted him and threw the acid in his face and then fled. the bolshoi is notorious for infighting, and a dancer there has been arrested on suspicion of organizing the attack. he told a court that he had known of it but had never expected the actual perpetrator to use acid and cause such injury. so what is the prognosis? the doctor said facial scars will probably remain but that he might regain some usable site, at least in his better i. the cases are very complex, and they do not always unfold in a predictable way. all i can say is we feel there is a good hope that he will regain usable vision for returning to normal life. he is likely to remain in this hospital for some months. he said that when he recovered he would be ready to return to moscow and look whoever attacked him in the face. he would not comment on the investigation and the arrests. he said he is in daily contact with the bolshoi but his main task is to recover enough to return. first, it was richard iii, and now another discovery has been unearthed in england. a high-tech project has come across a burial site believed to date back to the black death in the 14th century. 13 skeletons have been found so far, but archaeologists believe thousands more could be there. underneath this quiet space in central london lies a pit dug in a time when the area was described as no man s land outside the city walls. this is just part of the rich history of chophouse square. there just meters away from burial ground of many thousands of victims of the black death. been last, remains have unearthed of londoners who died here as bubonic plague swept through the capital. it is not the first discovery, but it is the most important medieval find made by archaeologists working beside the team tunnelling their way through the city. they knew there was a mass grave somewhere here, close to st. paul cathedral. now they have actually hit the spot. two verye uncovered withully laid out rose carefully spaced barrels, not in coffins but in shrouds. days of theearly epidemic when numbers of deaths took time to build up. dna taken from the skeletons may help to track the development and spread of the bacterium that caused the black death. those living nearest the excavation are pleased that public concerns have already been laid to rest. it was raised in the house of lords would tunneling under charterhouse square reignite the black death? the answer, thankfully, it is no, it will not. further forensic examination should tell us more about these 14th century londoners their fizzy, the general health, not just as victims of the plague, but as individuals, our ancestors. from that here discovery to a race like no other trekking across antarctic that is a challenge for anyone, but that is exactly the task which three teams of service members injured in combat are about to attend. our correspondent went to meet them, and they are getting a taste of the conditions to come. it feels like the end of the earth. a mountain blizzard in western iceland. they are trained for one of the toughest challenges of their lives a race across antarctica. one minute, you think you are going good, and the next, a blast comes in and blows you over. it is intense. three teams of servicemen and women will be competing from the u.s. and the commonwealth. everyone here has suffered life- changing injuries in combat. they ve been shot, blown up, burned, and traumatized. the charity behind this is walking with the wounded. unable to walk after my own gunshot injuries nine years ago, i went to see them training. [inaudible] many of the wounded are amputees. this u.s. soldier is totally blind. for him and many others, this is their first time ever on skis. [inaudible] also people who have never skied before. [inaudible] in these conditions, it helps them to remember why they are doing this. 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catholic church and bring it into the 21st century. pope francis began his first full day as pontiff praying at the basilica in rome this morning. last night, white smoke pouring from the chimney atop the sistine chapel signaling the pope had been elected. and after two days of conclave meetings and five rounds of voting, cardinal jorge mario bergoglio, the former archbishop of argentina, became papa of 1.2 billion catholics around the world. i was delighted. in latin america, i was really hoping that one of these times we d come with a latin american and here we did. reporter: while his papacy became effective immediately, the newly elected head of the catholic church will be formally installed at a ceremonial mass here at the vatican early tuesday morning. from the balcony of st. peter s basilica, francis, the first pope from latin america wearing the traditional white robe, addressed the tens of thousands who gathered at the square below and millions watching worldwide. [ speaking foreign language ] reporter: the 76-year-old pope prayed for the church, the papacy and for retired pope benedict. and then asked the faithful to pray for him. [ speaking foreign language ] he s our papa, you know. we re behind him all the way. reporter: and pope francis will be celebrating mass about two hours from now at the sistine chapel with the cardinals who elected him. we should also note president obama one of the first leaders to send out his congratulations yesterday, saying as the first pope from the americas, his selection also speaks to the strength and vitality of a region that is increasingly shaping our world, and alongside millions of hispanic americans, those of us in the united states share the joy of this historic day. matt? we ll be at the mass on tuesday. there was a tug of war between the old guard and the reformers. earlier this morning, we spoke with cardinal timothy dolan, the archbishop of new york, who was there, and i began by asking him which side won. i ve got to be honest, matt, within the sistine chapel, i didn t sense that tug of war. i sensed a rather remarkable resigned consensus we needed a man obviously who is holy, a man of theological precision like benedict was and john paul. we also needed a man, though, who had a good track record of sound effective pastoral governan governance. and we got one. as the cardinals began to look around and see the man we wanted. jorge berg golly i don t came to the fore. the old-timers, veteran cardinals remembered him from the last time. the more we got to listen to him, to know him, to hear our brother cardinals speak about him, it was pretty clear that s where the holy spirit was leading us. do you think some cardinals felt an obligation to choose a pope from the americas, the latin america given the growth in that part of the world. i don t think i would use the word obligation. in addition to the ones that i just mentioned to you, the fact that he knew a lot of languages, and the fact that he was from latin america, the fact that he had a particularly radiant slittude for the poor, that was almost gravy that made even more attractive the man who had sound qualities we already needed. that enhanced our eye traction. you ve always encouraged me to speak frankly, and i hope you understand the tone that s intended. i think when he spoke out yesterday, there was some stunned silence for a second. i think some had expected a younger man. he s 76. some had expected someone who at least visually seemed to epitomize a more modern church. when you looked at that image of the new pope standing with some members of the church high arky, visually, cardinal dolan, it didn t exactly scream a modern church. do you understand what i mean? i do, matt, and i appreciate your candor. by the way, i just enjoyed here with natalie watching the events of last night, because i hadn t seen them. we were behind the scenes literally so thanks for showing them again. i know what you mean, but we always say this. the long-term people who watch the church universal, and i would count you among them, you have the balcony moment, but then the real pontificate begins today. that s where we ll begin to watch. we cardinals noticed some things immediately that he was doing differently. i don t know if we have time to go into them. just give me one. very simple. the protocols calls for all the cardinals to come up. as soon as he s elected pope and changes, they put the white chair out up on an elevated platform. he s to sit there while we come up to express our love, gratitude and allegiance. when the he said, no em standing down here, so he greeted each of us as brothers, just literally on the same level we were. you heard the story. when we left to go over to st. martha, where we ve all been staying, they had his limo ready, he got back on the bus with us, like he had been doing for the whole conclave. those are little signs that send signals, matt. you mention an important signal last night on the balcony, you mentioned some of the pluses and minuses of that, but boy, let s watch close. i think we re going to see a lot of renewal. real quickly, personal disappointment at all? your mom was interviewed, by the way, and she said about you not being chosen as the next pope, i m feeling relieved. it s not that he wouldn t have been good for the church, i know he would have done a great job, but i want him here. spoken like a true mother. ah, i haven t talked to mom yet, but i send her my love, and she s got a new grandson. i have a new great nephew, charlie. no, i had relief, matt, only because we ve got a pope and a darn good one. you listen to the people last night in the square. all they want is the pope. the that we had the chair of st. pete you are was empty. now it s full again. that gives us hope, renewal. that s the real relief i sensed last night. i thank you for your time, your eminence. matt, good to be with us. nbc s lester hold is? st. peter s square with more on the path to the papacy. good morning to you. reporter: there was almost a sense of bewilderment. there was almost a sense of, who? boy, when he stepped out on that loggia, the crowd erupted in cheers. he s a quiet guy, a simple guy, even media shy, according to his biographer. he was born in buenos airs, born of five children born to italian immigrants, he studied to be a chemist, but in 1969 turnds to the priesthood. he joined the society of jesus. the formal name, and adopted an austere lifestyle. as archbishop, he could have lived in a palace, but instead lived in a modest apartment. he even rode the bus. this is a true man of god. this is a true man of god, a man of deep, deep spiritual life. a man who knows what the church needs in the 21st century. reporter: in his native argentina, bergoglio made it his mission to work among the people to fight on behalf of the poor. he was elevated to cardinal in 2001 by pope john paul ii. and in 2005, bergoglio was runner-up to cardinal ratzinger who would become pope benedict xvi, the man he succeeds. this is a man of dynamic orthodoxy, genuine missionary fervor. he could be very appealing to young people. this is a man who knows there s a lot that needs fixing in the central machinery of the church here in rome and i think he ll go about fixing it quickly. bergoglio told the cardinals he was taking the name francis in honor of the 13th century st. francis assisi, who gave up his family s wealth to live in poverty. that spartan outlook was evidence in his choice of simple white robes as he was announced to the faithful around the world. he s never actually worked inside the vatican but some have no doubt he s up to the task. this is a wonderful choice. we have a decent compassionate, strong, smart man. a man who now becomes the first cardinal from the americas to head the roman catholic church, again. he went through a lot as a young man. as a teenager he suffered from a serious infection. they had to take out one of his lungs. he has only one. i m notice that the souvenir shops here has new bits of souvenirs with the new pope francis. how is he being receiving in his home country? miguel almaguer is in argentina. reporter: good morning. born and raised in this country, the pope has deep roots here, as well as in the cathedral just behind me. he s the first non-european pope ever elected. he wall street celebrated around the world and all across laden america. reporter: on the streets, joy, excitement, sheer pride. translator: incredible sensation, feeling like bursting into tears. reporter: argentina has the first latin-american pope in the 2,000-year history of the papacy. catholicism in this region is a way of life. one of the greatest moments in the history of our country. reporter: 4 out of every 10 catholics live here. church insiders believe the election may build that base. we immediately knelt down and started to pray. reporter: known as a champion of the poor who lives a simple life. he first became archbishop of the largest church in 1998. regarded as conservative, church insiders say he s committed to the religious doctrine and social justice. he as all then cat in his poverty, prayers, commitment to study and to the poor. reporter: his appointment has led to pride spanning from sports to the spiritual. the saying right now is we have messe and now we have the pope. that means gourd is argentinian. reporter: the celebration crossed borders and seas. in the u.s., from denver to miami, catholics say they ve always had faith one day they would witness history. it s new for all of us. we are all happy and excited about that. reporter: hope, excitement and a pope that marks a new beginning. while the celebration ended just a short time ago, the controversy has already begun. many have criticized the pope for not doing enough during a bloody dictatorship that began in the 70s and ending with some 30,000 people disappearing. savannah? thank you, miguel. natalie is over at the vatican. tamron hall has some of the other stories making headlines this morning. passengers aboard another card van cruise ship facing disruption. it s docked in phillipsburg st. marten. passengers are not being left off the ship. the ship never lost power, though there were interruptions to elevators and toilets for a few hours last night. the situation comes to us one month after the carnival triumph was stranded in mexico for almost a week. police stormed an abandoned building this morning in herkimer, new york, and killed a gunman. curt myers had killed at least four people, police say. they say officers opened fire today after myers shot at a police dog. the president heads to capitol hill today for more meetings with both republicans and democratic lawmakers. this after senate democrats revealed a, quote, concrete plan to spur economic growth with some $1 trillion in new tax revenues over the coming decade. now for a check of the market, mary thompson has the latest from cnbc world headquarters. good morning. good morning. stocks are higher this morning following the seventh straight record close, coming after mixed economic news. first time unemployment claims unexpectedly dropping last week, but producer prices rose last month mostly because of the higher gasoline prices which right now are turning lower. samsung announcing its galaxy smartphone today. the first lady is next month s cover woman for vogue. in an interview she fires back at critics who say she and the president don t socialize enough in washington. instead, she said, quote, our number one priority is making sure our family is whole, and she said she and her husband relieve the pressures of their job by spending time with daughters sasha and malia. it s now 7:17 on the west coast. what i like about this, she picked out her own clothes. usually they give you a stylist. and she s wearing, and forgive me, because i m a hill billiy texas, reed krakof. it sounds great when you say it. don t look at me. i m a hill billy from new york. where s jed clampitt when you need it? second time for vogue. we ll see what it looks like. i know you have to meet jethro, but in the meantime, let s talk about our friends on the west coast. we are looking at more moisture in the pacific northwest. nothing like they ve had over the last few days. along the coast, we have dense fog advisories, dense marine fog advisories as well. the temperatures there along the southern california coast in the 60s but inland temperatures will be hitting the 90s. we ll gets to your local forecast in a moment, but first this message. 7:19. thursday morning. i m christina loren. taking a look high atop san bernardino mountain. gorgeous day, not as warm as yesterday. you will hit about 80 degrees. great-looking weekend shaping up as temperatures will level off on saturday. 75 inland. a great looking st. patrick s day. hope you have a beautiful day! all right. we are back. and let s just kind of wrap up that huge story of yesterday, the election of pope francis. we were all watching, i would imagine, live. you were on the air. yeah. most of us were in front of the tv set getting closer and closer as the moment appeared. i was afraid to sit down. at one point, i had to go to the bathroom and i was afraid to. i didn t want to miss it. i was afraid you were going to bring that up. what about the moment where, about 20 minutes before the pope emerged, that guy came to the window and pulled the curtain aside. i was like, that s not right. they re not supposed to be doing that. he s thinking, i wonder if there are people out there. yeah. a few hundred thousand. at one point on the handle and i m live on msnbc, and i m like, this door cannot be that difficult to open. come on out. there s so many moments of true suspension, any more, and this is one of them. we re all waiting, we re going to hang on the words, what is the name of the new pope? roll the tape. cardinal bergoglio. bergoglio. [ speaking foreign language ] francisco. francisco. your eminence? i know him very well. i like him very much. what s his name for those of us who missed it? thank you, brian. we were all wondering the same thing. what did he say? nobody wanted to mess that up. there was no question about it. but it was exciting and joyous moment. and the faces of the people in the crowd to be there for history. it was great. well, coming up, a lot more on the historic election of pope francis and what it means for the future of the catholic church. and new opposition to the decision to allow knives back on planes for the first time since 9/11. this morning the head of the tsa addresses the concern right here. in an exclusive live interview right here. but first, this is today on nbc. still ahead, a heated dispute involving spanx, why the same company is being asked to stop making some of its products. and why we love our morning coffee. 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[ male announcer ] now learn about a program committed to you and copay assistance that can reduce monthly orencia out-of-pocket drug cost to $5. if you re not satisfied after 6 months, you get that money back. call 1-800-orencia. it is 7:26. good morning. i m jon kelly. a sex offender was, in fak, on board a busloaded with high school students on their way to a field trip. students from andrew hill high school and silver creek high school were traveling on a bus on february 13th when a sex offender was discovered. it is unclear how the individual got on board. the school superintendent tells us, per our discussions with the san jose police department, the preliminary investigative findings are that the individual in question did not have contact of any kind with any student on the bus that day. we ll, of course, have an update coming for you during our 11:00 a.m. newscast. right now, let s turn to a much brighter note an take things outside. christina loren says another good look and feel. good morning, jon. you can see the sky from san bruno. really pretty live shots. the sun coming up now. beautiful start to the day here over the bay bridge. you can see the high in the mid-level clouds in addition to the other clouds. fairfield, a half mile of visibility available to you. these numbers have been drifting in and out as we have been heading through the morning hours. we are expecting the fog to be at its worse between 9:00 a.m., 71 degrees in fremont, 72, san jose and 72 in los gatos. mike, you have had that issue on the rhodoads. it seems like it is still out there. a tow truck driver finishing cleaning up the parts after the early morning crash. north of 680. you see slowing at the scene, much improved. headed into the 50s as you are coming past the area. the slowdown back towards the 85 interchange. that will need to improve. your morning commute kicks in through the northbound routes through here. 880 where the traffic continues to build. the lou clouw clouds are drifti through. mike, thank you very much. we hope to see you back at 7:56 for another update. it is 7:30 now on a thursday morning, 14th day of march 2013. a live look at vatican city at . it is 7:30 on a thursday morning. 12:30 in the afternoon at the vatican where pope francis is spending his first day as the leader of the catholic church. we are going to go live to the pope s hometown of argentina. savannah gurthrie. are you enjoying your morning coffee right now? as we often do. americans drink 400 million cups a day. is it the caffeine or is it the culture that keeps us coming back for more? i m going to vote caffeine. do you know how much caffeine is in your favorite brands? we ll get into that and other surprising facts about coffee. okay. we know we are addicted to it. let s be honest. we re going to begin this half hour with the growing backlash against the tsa s decision to allow passengers to carry small knives on planes starting next month. the head of the tsa is hearing it from all sides now including the nation s flight attendants. but first, tom costello at reagan national airport this morning. good morning. hi, savannah, good morning to you, the tsa continues to insist it will allow small folding knives about 2.36 inches on the blade no bigger than that because the tsa says they pose little risk because looking for them clogs up check points like this one and because the tsa says it needs to be looking for explosives. but the agency is also now facing a tsunami of protests. first, it was the frequent fliers who found the new knife policy unsettling. i don t know why they would allow people to carry knives on the plane. it s ridiculous to me. reporter: now mounting opposition from all of the key players in aviation safety. the union representing the 45,000 tsa officers. we are opposed to it. we believe there is no place for knives on airplanes. reporter: the union representing air marshals also opposes the plan. and five unions representing the nation s flight attendants. wednesday, they took their concerns directly to the tsa chief. every single day, we experience passenger disturba e disturbances that we deescalate or ask passengers to help us contain the problem. you introduce a deadly weapon into that scenario, and it s not a good idea. reporter: at least three major airlines are joining their unions in objecting the tsa s decision. u.s. airways, american and delta. in a letter to the head of the tsa, delta airlines ceo writes, if the purpose is to increase security check point blow, there are much more effective steps to take together. but scissors and knitting needles, small knives are allowed on flights overseas. and the man who runs the tsa says terrorists remain focused on using explosives to bring down a plane, not knives. i understand the concern of some of the constituents out there. our focus has to be on we re best poised to detect and deter a possible terrorist at a check point. reporter: this morning, chief pistole will be on capitol hill defending this plan. some republicans support him. but there is also a bipartisan bill on capitol hill that would prevent the tsa from putting this plan into action. tom, thank you. and let s hear from the man himself, john pistole, the administrator of the tsa is with us this morning. good morning to you. good morning, savannah. we ve heard you re taking a lot of heat for this policy. and i guess the first question is why fix it if it ain t broke? flying public is used to these rules, why the change in policy? the policies have been under revision and review for a number of years. really since tsa was stood up after 9/11. and this was part of our ongoing initiative called risk-base security to move away from the one-size-fits-all approach to help us focus on the highest threat items such as the nonmetallic improvised explosive devices. those liquid bombs that could bring down an aircraft. and as noted by tom costello, the fact is since 2005 we ve had a number of items that have been allowed on the aircraft and billions of passengers in the u.s. who have traveled and since august of 2010, billions of passengers internationally who have traveled with small knives and not a single incident involving a threat to an air crew and we recognize the concerns of the flight attendants and those others who have raised concerns. that s why we have been in a close partnership with them, for example, allowing them to go through an identity base screening so they don t even go through regular screening. 95% of those, the flight attendants go through an identity screen. let s take this piece by piece. the organization not capable of both watching for and confiscating knives and watching for these improvised explosive devices that admittedly pose more of a catastrophic threat. why can t the agency do both? well, we can and we have, the challenge becomes if we focus on something that will not cause catastrophic failure to an aircraft and miss something that could, we haven t done our job to the millions of people, 12 1/2 million people who travel every week, 630 million people every year just in the u.s. we want our focus to be on the highest threat items. fair enough. but now you have tsa screeners, the union itself saying, in fact this new policy is more disruptive because now rather than just a hard and fast no knives rule, you have set up a situation where they re going to be litigating potentially with passengers. how big the knife is. is it less than 2 1/3 inches long. isn t this more disruptive and counter to your goals here? well, if they were aware of the protocols we will be putting in place, i don t think they would have that opinion. i received input from the workforce prior to us having collective bargaining agreement with the union. it was recommendation from the workforce we modify this list. and as the protocols become apparent to all, i think people will see that we won t have that situation just as in 2005 with the change in list, there was a transition period and it s gone smoothly since then. another thing that people have been mentioning and that they re very scared about is while they acknowledge a small knife isn t going to cause a catastrophic event like the plane being brought down, can t you envision a scenario in which it is incredibly dangerous where you have a coordinated group of terrorists like 9/11 getting on with some of these knives and causing great havoc among passengers and flight attendants. isn t that a real threat and perhaps hijacking the plane on that basis? it is a possibility. part of what we do is base our decisions on the intelligence that s out there. there s intelligence about terrorists continuing their interest and attempts to blow up an aircraft whether passenger or cargo planes as we ve seen in three plots since christmas day. there s no intelligence about that scenario you described. the tsa is at one end of the continuum for the united states, with other agencies collecting intelligence overseas, others doing things here domestically and we are really that last line of defense with the federal air marshals, with the pilots and flight attendants and the passengers who, i think, will respond in a different way than what we people may be imagining. well, i know you ve been getting it from all sides and you re going on the hill to defend your policy. thank you for your time. we appreciate it. thank you, savannah. now let s get a check of the weather from al. savannah, thank you so much. a little bit on the brisk side here. we ve got another clipper coming across. take a look. starting tomorrow, this thing dives down out of canada, makes its way across the upper midwest. bringing rain to the south, snow to the north, and exits and drops a little snow into the northeast. snowfall amounts, nothing too horrible. we ve got about a 6 to 9 inch band from fargo right through detroit on into erie. make that 3 to 6 inches and generally around that, about 1 to 3. it s nothing all that horrible, but we ll bring some snow. we are looking at a lot of wet weather in the pacific northwest. rip currents down in florida. plenty of sunshine with heat from texas, into the southwest and southern california. l.a. today getting up to 80 degrees downtown. but they have fog and temperatures about 20 degrees cooler right at the beach. 7:38 on a thursday morning. you are so close to that weekend now. temperatures are actually going to hold up so you can get out and enjoy this. what a gorgeous sunrise we are getting this rng month. th that was the bay bridge. we have high clouds in addition to the fog. slated to hit some records today. 75 degrees on the way to the north bay as we head throughout santa rosa today touching on a temperature record but overall, a difference, 5-8 dropoff from yesterday. still ahead today s professionals weigh in on punishments that shame your children. up next, the man behind a major game changer in the presidential race. the video of mitt romney s 47% comment. he breaks his silence about why he taped those comments right after this. i ve been claritin clear for 12 days ! when your allergies start, doctors recommend taking one clinically-proven claritin every day during your allergy season for continuous relief. 18 days ! 17 days ! i m still claritin clear ! 22 days of continuous relief. live claritin clear. every day. take the claritin clear challenge: get continuous, non-drowsy allergy relief or your money back. go to claritinchallenge.com for details. with new lean cuisine salad additions. the perfect combination of grilled chicken plump edamame ripe pineapple crunchy broccoli colorful carrots all topped with a savory ginger vinaigrette and crispy noodles. for 300 delicious calories. all you have to do is bring your own lettuce. we ll dress it up. new lean cuisine salad additions. just byol. they re the hottest thing to hit the frozen aisle. nestle. good food, good life. to make peanut butter so deliciously creamy. it can even be a game changer. that s why choosy moms and dads choose jif. you have to let me know [ female announcer ] when sweet and salty come together, the taste is irresistible. sweet and salty nut bars by nature valley. nature at its most delicious. i ll tell you what we do. i want you to go out on the field and look for anything with an o . we will win this for mother russia! coach, eat a snickers®. why s that, chief? 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the cheerleaders. they left. they didn t have coats. seriously? we ve got the band. they don t have any jackets. anyway, we re here. i m savannah guthrie. this is matt lauer. so glad you made it. meantime, we have natalie morales at the vatican with all the headlines this morning. big day for pope francis. she s at st. peter s square. we ll check in with her in a few minutes. in our studio here god, they are loud. in our studio here, we ve got our professionals standing by including suze orman. one of the topics they ll discuss. a woman in maryland got pulled over on the highway for going two miles below the speed limit. got a ticket because she was in the fast lane. and they ticketed her for failing to move to the right. what s up with that? is that right or wrong? we ll talk about it. yesterday, we thought, you know, we had a piano player, let s kick it up a notch. we ve done that. love it. that s right, nascar driver jeff gordon has a great time on line where he takes an unsuspecting car salesman for the ride of his life. is he in on it or not? we ll show you, and you can decide. and why we are attached to coffee. surprising facts about it. do you think darker roasts have more caffeine? interesting answer to the question. what does that mean right now silence? yes. one more time! [ cheers ] let s go inside. we have more from the newscast on the headlines. hey, guys. the new leader of the world s 1.2 billion roman catholics began his first full day as pope by praying for about a half-hour this morning at rome s main basilica dedicated to the virgin mary. pope francis was elected last night on the fifth round of voting by the cardinals at the papal conclave. it was cheered by tens of thousands in st. peter s square. the 76-year-old former archbishop of buenos aires, argentina, is the first pope chosen from the americas who will be formally installed at a ceremonial mass at the vatican on tuesday morning. [ cheers ] in an apparent show of defiance, the web site that allegedly posted the personal information of celebrities and politicians has now published what it says is the credit report of disgraced former penn state football coach jerry sandusky. the fbi, secret service, and los angeles police have teamed up to track the culprits who earlier published what appeared to be the credit reports of first lady michelle obama, donald trump, beyonce, and many others. president obama said wednesday that the case shows the government and private sector must continually improve their defenses against determined hackers. nearly two months after general elections, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has reached a deal to form a new more centrist coalition government. it will be the first israeli government in years that does not include ultra-orthodox religious parties. netanyahu s new administration is expected to take office next week just days before a visit by president obama. and now for a look at what s trending, our quick roundup of what has you talking on line more than five million views have made this day-old pepsi max commercial a viral sensation. nascar ace jeff gordon dons a disguise and supposedly takes an unsuspecting chevy dealer on the test drive of his life. a standard, of course. ahhhh! watch it! watch out! stop the car! stop the [ bleep ] car right now! oh, my god. ahhhh! whoo! okay. people are raising doubts about whether this is real or some kind of re-enactment, it was staged, what do you think? you ll have to decide. and the teen detective drama veronica mars, people have surpassed the $2 billion goal kick-starter to turn it into a movie. the first million in the first hour. that kick-started a record. kick-start lets creative types propose a project and raise funds through a grassroots effort. as soon as a new pope was introduced, digital detectives searched the internet for celebrity lookalikes. take a look. examples include david letterman s musical sidekick, paul schaefer, and then there s sopranos star uncle junior. others see the pope s likeness in comedy genius carl reiner. and this is interesting, woody allen? hmm. now let s head back outside to the guys. they can decide who they think my vote is uncle junior. let s go to natalie morales at the vatican. or me. which is closer. hey, so the syracuse the sour citrus society band, they re here for the big east. they re playing tonight, right, at the game. they re going do a little can t turn me loose. all right. hit it. one, two, one, two, three, four! yeah. a little blues brothers music. we ll show what s going on in your neck of the woods. first of all, we re looking at catalina island. dense morning fog. 66 degrees. and it is hot out west. look at that jet stream way up to the north. palm springs, 92. phoenix, 93. amarillo, 79 degrees. you come to the east, temperatures from five to 15 degrees below normal. big finish yeah! all right. thank you very much, sour citrus that was really good stuff. thank you, al. good morning to you. a great-looking day shaping up. a little bit of fog is going to linger over the san francisco bay almost all day long. otherwise, we re still headed towards near record warmth yet again. 77 for livermore. 80 in gilroy. 72 in los gatos. throughout the next couple of days, temperatures will stay mild. then we ll drop off sunday into monday. we bring in the rain wednesday of next week. hope you have a great day. all right. back to you, savannah. i can t take it. al has his own marching band. he s marching away. coming up next, today s professionals are here, does punishment of shame of your kids actually work? and why we re attached to our morning coffee. and later, gerard butler live in our studio. but first, these messages. how do we take an unpolished room and make it shine? we get doing. .with a store full of ways to get it done. we can all throw on our work clothes. .and throw out any doubt. because right now s the time to take those rooms from. . think i can do this? to. . let me show you what i just did. more saving. more doing. that s the power of the home depot. outsmart your budget with this pergo presto flooring, just $1.88 a square foot. if yyou ve got thegood whenwrong toilet paper.room, you want it to get you clean. gently. as long as i use quilted northern ultra plush® i m happy. and positive i m clean. quilted northern ultra plush with the innerlux layer. for a comfortable, confident clean, or your money back. 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i was on the united flight two days ago. two flight attendants came up to me and personally asked me if i could take this on. they said it s not about bringing down a plane, they re worried about their safety. i have to back them. i think it s nuts, number one. i think they listen, why don t they do something that makes sense? let us wear our shoes, let us keep our belts and jackets on and let them keep their knives off the plane. the real issue that tsa says is that they re looking for things that can, quote, take down a plane. and they don t think these knives can. not that i agree with them, but that s at least their argument. john pistole was on the show this morning and savannah asked the question and i asked it, as well, after billions of dollars being invested in security and safety post 9/11 at our airports, don t the american people deserve a system that can do both things? yeah. and we also deserve a system that would allow you to look through the luggage. we don t look through everybody s luggage. do you think he should stand firm on this? when you ve got the flight attendants, air marshals, airline executives, members of congress saying this is a bad idea, should they reconsider? they should listen to the people who are on the plane. they should stop thinking that they know and listen to the people who deal with the people every single day. that s exactly right. and when you fly as much as we do, you know there s not even continuity among the airports. so until you get that stuff done, listen to the people who are on the front line. give me my shoes, i say. let me move on. we ve done stories about shaming punishments on this segment before. this one is one with a twist, though. a mother in colorado, an 8-year-old daughter says she had the mother says the daughter has a problem with stealing from stores and everyone else. so she makes the daughter wear a t-shirt to school that on the front says i steal steal means taking property that belongs to someone else without permission. on the back it reads, i steal, please watch me. what do you think about it? just because she can t parent her child well, she is now turning it over to the school. she s putting the school in the middle of a parenting issue. well, you re getting to the twist here. so you think the idea of sending the kid to school with that t-shirt is a modern version of a stockade. yeah. it s a lot deeper. like mom, get real help for your kid. the principal at the school the girl goes to school with the t-shirt, the principal makes her cover it up. apparently the principal did not agree with this form of parenting. is it the school s place it is not no, yes, it is the school s place to say this is not appropriate attire. but if this child is a kleptomaniac and maybe problems for later times, she needs therapy, she didn t need a t-shirt. what do the other kids understand about somebody wearing this t-shirt? and i understand this little girl was teased. you end up setting the kid up for bullying. be a mother and stop trying to be a friend and getting your picture on youtube and we might be able to solve the problem with your kid. number three, this is the one that you three barraged me with this morning, okay. cheryl samberg, she s one of the top female executives in silicon valley, she s at facebook, written a new book called lean in, among many things in the book seems to be this idea about women in the workplace in corporate america not being held back by a glass ceiling, being held back by themselves. what do you think about it? my 24-year-old graduated, accomplished, brilliant young businesswoman called me the other day from d.c. crying because a man at work said you re too aggressive, you re too bossy. and she called me with self-doubt. and i told her to tell him to go screw himself. you didn t use that word. and to lean in. because the reality is, we learned later in life to lean in, and we ve harnessed our voices later. we want our 16-year-old and 17-year-old and 18-year-old girls to know we want more ceos. the backlash she s facing. there s a special place in hell for women who don t support other women as madeline albright said a long time ago. i m not sure it s that basic hateration or you have your own self-doubt and you don t want to hear the truth. she s laying it out. you have to understand her true message. you can t go, oh, it s because we don t want to. you have to understand the socialization process between men and women and how that affects us unconsciously in every move that we make. if you read the book, listened to her, as i have. you will find out that one of the best books, most intelligent women with one of the most provocative and intelligent messages i ve heard in a long time. it s not about being rich, not about having nannies. we got sidetracked. we re leaning in. everybody lean in. let me end on this one. draw that one to a close quickly. here s a subject that infuriates a lot of drivers, all right. a woman in maryland driving on the interstate in a 65-mile-an-hour zone gets pulled over and given a ticket for going 63 miles an hour. the reason for the ticket, she was in the far left lane and she failed to move to the right. we ve all been there. we ve been behind one of these people. does she deserve a ticket, though? yes. yeah. yes. yes? absolutely. would she have gotten a ticket if she was going two miles above the speed limit? no. you give this woman a ticket for that? yes, because she was in the wrong lane and going 62 in the right lane, she wouldn t have gotten a ticket. go in the middle. you have to go exactly 65 miles an hour or faster in that lane? in the middle! leave the flow of traffic. what s wrong with you? you could cause an accident. i m not sure i disagree with you but i m trying to add sanity to the segment. what if she d been in the hov lane? with a blow-up doll. isn t that amazing. you can only go as fast as the slowest driver. i m sorry. and with three people. all right. up next, america s obsession with coffee and some things you may not know about your morning cup of joe right after this. 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survey americans pay an average of $2.98 for their jolt of java at coffee shops. one cup a day adds up to $572 a year. our caffeine obsession a booming business, a $30 billion a year industry. and it s more than just a drink. coffee is now part of our culture, even used as an expression. let s do coffee. there s even a national coffee day on september 29th. coffee is not something we want to live without. i feel very grumpy if i don t get my morning coffee. i get jittery if i don t have coffee. people are obsessed with coffee because it s a vehicle that contains caffeine. caffeine has very real effects. it is a stimulant, and if someone is using caffeine on a daily basis, they become physically dependent. many are not willing to give up their cup of joe. i d rather give up some form of food as opposed to coffee. i d give up cake and cookies to keep my coffee. in fact, in a today.com poll, 85% of you said you cannot do without your morning cup. and here to answer some of your coffee questions is monica, a licensed nutritionist and author of the nutrition diva s secrets for healthy diet. good morning to you. morning, savannah. i think every day is coffee day, not just september 29th. i would have to agree with you. the first thing is, we actually test eed some of the major brands to determine which had the most caffeine content. what did we find? there was a pretty big range in the brands we tested. at the top with the most caffeine was starbucks with about 250 milligrams of caffeine in a 12-ounce, the tall size and that was the medium roast. and then on the other end of the spectrum was seattle s best which is owned by starbucks and half as much caffeine, 125 milligrams per 12-ounce. and right in the middle were dunkin donuts and mcdonald s both about 165, but the serving size for dunkin is a little smaller. real quickly, how much is the recommended amount or safe amount per day? under 500 milligrams a day would be good. if you re drinking, you know, dunkin, maybe three cups, starbucks, maybe only two. we ve got questions from our viewers. heather tweeted a question, do darker roasts have higher caffeine content? actually the opposite. the darker roasts have less caffeine, but not as big of a difference as i thought. the differences are small. what makes a bigger difference is how much coffee you re using, how strong you re brewing it. that s a surprise to me. rebecca tweeting, does coffee really stunt your growth? our moms used to tell us, coffee would stunt our growth as kids, that s not true. but caffeine you take during pregnancy can affect the growth of a baby and lead to low birth weights. definitely pregnant women want to stay away from caffeine. and i would assume you want to keep it down for your child, for your kids. i think it s a good idea to limit the caffeine. we don t need to give them an unfair advantage. jodi tweeted i drink several cups a day, wondering if coffee hydrates or dehydrates me. i m glad we got this question. caffeine is a diuretic, that means it makes you pee more, but coffee contains a lot of water. and in the end you end up taking in more fluid than you lose, coffee is hydrating. that s a shocker. i feel better about my intake. and we ve got is coffee better than tea? well, two different plants. you re going to get different benefits. they both contain caffeine. the benefits due to the caffeine you get from both. three times as much tea, though, to get the same benefits. thank you so much. here s a good question. is it an appetite suppressant. some people think it is. maybe if it takes up a little room in your stomach. you get a tiny bump in metabolism, but not more than five or ten calories. well, good questions about our favorite drink. thank you so much, tweet us ab good morning to you. 8:26. i m laura garcia-cannon. investigators have linked a san francisco company to the hackers who published credit reports for michelle obama and other u.s. officials and celebrities. computers from the company cloud fair were used behind the scenes to redirect visitors to a russian website where the stolen credit reports were being published. the hackers apparently used personal details about their victims to access the reports through a free credit report website. cloud fair says it does not comment on its users. let s check the morning commute with mike. we re looking over here toward the south bay where we have the low clouds and the fog drifting around the bay area. that s one of the issues you see here but also the traffic going off to the left, that s northbound 880 off of 280. we had an earlier crash at 280 and the interchange that has cleared. but look at the slowing coming toward us. we ll flip the map around, you see that 17 up to 880 up toward the airport, very slow for that stretch through the middle of your screen. the rest of your northbound routes are okay. southbound 880, slowdown. here s the peninsula. low clouds but not a problem for visibility. another local news update for you in half an hour. hope to see you then. it s 8:30 now on a thursday morning. kind of a breezy and chilly thursday morning here in new york city. the 14th day of march 2014. looking down at some of the people who have been gathered here in our plaza for the better part of two or three hours now. nice of them to stop by. and huddled together as a group. i m matt lauer along with savannah gurthrie, al roker and tamron hall. tamron is here while natalie s over at the vatican. and coming up in this half hour, gerard butler is in our studio. he s starring and i mean this, in an action-packed new movie called olympus has fallen. star jones gave he her review of the movie and said it s a thrill ride. and so we re going to talk to gerard about that film in a couple of minutes. also ahead, news about a new treatment that may provide hope for children who have got severe food allergies. and we want to be the first to wish you happy pie day. it s 3/14, celebrating the mathematical number. however, this morning, we re going to do it with actual pies. and gerard butler is going to help us. let s face it, who doesn t like pie? gerard, do you like pie? yes, gerard butler likes pie. and it s also national world kidney day. so you could have kidney pie. okay. all right. that s right. we ll go there. plus, also, don t forget tomorrow on today we re highlighting some of the stars of tomorrow. we ve got a baker, designer, singer and painter all on the edge of 16, who will be here to show off their skills. and the designer has something i ll be wearing. let s hope you can keep it. all right. mr. roker, how about a check of the weather? a little brisk out here, but all in all, not too bad. and we are looking for a little bit of a clipper coming across. snow showers in the great lakes, mid mississippi and ohio river valley. the heat continues in the southwest, phoenix today, 93, more heat tomorrow in the southwest on into texas. another clip will bring some snow from the dakotas right across into western new york. nice and mild through the gulf coast. sunny and cool in the mid-atlantic states downright cold in northern new 8:32 on a thursday morning. good morning. i m meteorologist christina loren. this is san bruno looking down over the san francisco bay. and you can see we have plenty of low clouds. we ll have to wait for those clouds to burn off. once they do, lots of sunshine is going to bring our temperatures up toward record levels. 75 on the way to santa rosa, rivaling a new record. i think we ll break that record. down in the south bay, also warming. gilroy, 80 degrees. down from 87 yesterday. 72 for san jose. and 68 degrees in san francisco. staying steady this weekend. weather. all right, al. thank you very much. starting this weekend, nbc and nbc sports network begin coverage of more than 200 hours of the formula 1 and indy car racing season. we want to welcome in some nice gentlemen right now. a four-time izot indy car driver. guys, good morning to both of you. morning. what do you think people don t understand about your sport other than that the drivers do not wear coats in cold weather? i think it s a physical aspect of it. it s difficult just to drive the car with the physical exertion we go through. with the g-forces, it s one of the questions we get asked all the time. are you? yeah, five days a week in the gym, twice a day. i think that answers the question. you were actually diagnosed with type i diabetes in 2007. the first driver in indy cars to deal with that. how are you handling that diagnosis? and are you trying to send a message about it? well, it takes a whole team to manage diabetes, not just a race team, but a health care team and i ve got good teammates like dario and together we re promoting diabetes awareness within the campaign to prove to people that you can still live your dreams with diabetes and do what it is you want in life. how fast are you guys going? do you realize do you feel the speed when you re going that fast? you only feed the speed when something goes wrong. as soon as something starts to go wrong and you have a slight, all of a sudden you want to go slower quickly. how fast do you go in your regular cars? i m a car addict, yeah. how many cars do you own? too many. any minivans? no? not a chance. not usually, not for race car drivers. you know what i want to ask you about. have you seen this jeff gordon video where he s supposed to freak out the car dealer. do you think that s real or fake? the road seemed very quiet. quite fun, nonetheless. most people that ride with us react similarly. all right. we want to mention, again, first of all, we re happy that you can catch formula one s grand prix sunday 1:30 a.m. nbc sports network will have complete coverage of that race, as well. guys, go get warm. thank you very much. and have a safe ride this year. thank you. coming up next, new treatment to help kids with severe food allergies. but first, this is today on nbc. today s health is brought to you by nicorette. and we re back at 8:38 with today s health. and a radical new treatment for kids who suffer from multiple food allergies. here s kristin dahlgren. reporter: not long ago, a speck of her favorite whipped cream could ve cost tessa her life. what were you allergic to? wheat, eggs, nuts, and shellfish. that s a lot. yeah. tessa wasn t even 2 years old when spilled milk put her into shock. were there times you thought she was going to die? yeah. when you suppress the whole thing, you walk out and say, my god, if i were five minutes later, she would have been dead. and when you get that call. it s awful. when you get there and your daughter s in your wife s arms barely looking at you. it took years off me. reporter: despite extraordinary vigilance, she had more life threatening episodes taking a physical and emotional toll. she didn t want to leave the house. she stopped eating. did you always feel different than the other kids? definitely. some people actually teased me, which is really weird because like there isn t really something different, i just can t eat something. but i did feel different. that had to be hard, i m sure. yeah. kim and i had gotten to the point where we d said, we have to do this because we already know what can happen. this was a first. a treatment that would tackle most of tessa s food allergies at once. the first time my mom and i were walking in, i actually said to her if i die, this is your fault. because she was the one who told me i should do it. there you go. itching our tingling? the children s hospital heads the study. this is called oral immuno therapy. we give them the very thing they re allergic to. and that might see paradoxical, however we start with small doses and work up and increase the dose about every 25% every two weeks. new york times reporter wrote about this new multiple food treatment after watching her son almost die. this treatment is really amazing. she doesn t use the word cure because she s a scientist and she s very careful so they use the word desensitizing the child and having them tolerate the food. but the fact is, from a parent point of view, it is a cure. your child is eating the food and as long as your child eats the food every day, they re done with their allergies. on tessa s last day of treatment, she celebrated like most kids do. you are the first one in the country in the world to do this. wow. i m proud of you. what s the biggest change? the biggest change is that i don t have to be scared anymore. and i don t have as much anxiety. and i can just be a normal kid. for today, kristen dahlgren, mountain view, california. and you can learn more about the treatment and how to manage food allergies on our website today.com. coming up next, gerard butler on his new thriller set at the white house. first, this is today on nbc. we re back at 8:44 with gerard butler, star of the new movie olympus has fallen. plays a disgraced secret service agent who finds himself trapped in the white house after the president is taken hostage during a terror attack. take a look. yes. the president s in the bunker. being held hostage. what do they want? we ll try to find out. who s in charge? are there any survivors with you? negative, sir. they wiped us out. they re roaming the hallways with enough explosives to take out an army. gerard butler, welcome back, good to see you. good to see you. this movie is about without giving anything away the north koreans are the terrorists here. they take over the white house and capture the president and you have arranged just as you re promoting the movie to have the north koreans make all kinds of strange gestures toward the united states threatening nuclear war. how did you do that? well, it wasn t so much me. we have a very powerful publicity department. we just make some noise and say some ridiculous things and then we called dennis rodman. got him involved. you re pulling all the strings. you re a producer of this too, i should mention. are you asking the audience to suspend their belief system here and just have fun with the ride? or is this something that you p want us to consider? i mean, this is not usually where we think of the threat coming from when it comes to trouble here in our country. well, i think it s important to point out that the north koreans are more involved with the political fallout of the movie. and it s obviously very relevant because of the tensions, but this is a terrorist organization that go in and take the white house. so it s more like an osama bin laden than an actual government force. and i think it s a bit of both. it s entertainment and it s very, very very, very exciting somebody s screaming out there. no, that s you. that s you in the movie. oh, it s me. sounds like a maniac. you re hearing voices now. that s great. you know, but, no i think it s very provocative, as well. we live in this threat of terrorism. what would it look like? and we have totally pulled an audience in and that s what gets you, how real it feels. you re actually in there. and then you re in the crisis room involved in the nitty-gritty and what we wanted to do was get to the substance and meaning and humanize it. these are real people having to make decisions, you know, split second, they make mistakes. i m listening to you talk about this. and i m smiling only because i ve watched you in so many movies. and i ve heard you do these spot on american accents. and you ve got this gorgeous scottish accent. and as someone who could never do your accent, i don t know how you do this. and just switch that heavy accent off and sound like you re from the heartland of america. yeah. it didn t come easy, let me tell you. i did i ve probably done 1,000 dialect sessions in my life. and there came a point when i realized i have to just walk around speaking like an american and my friends would be like, you sound like an idiot. it doesn t matter, i have to learn to breathe, sigh, laugh, to keep it all like that. do you catch yourself slipping in and out? totally. they give me such a hard time in scotland. i go back and i always go to the starbucks and say cafe latte please. and they click me back into that scottish accent. you re on twitter now, right? how are you enjoying that experience? it s a daily thrill ride, isn t it? i was never a fan of it before, never really went on it. and now i thought this is something i should embrace. i went on it. i m kind of loving it. are you really? it s an exciting thing. you ve already been asked to dinner by someone. asked to take a bubble bath with a total stranger. so this is going well for you. someone asked what size is your bath? do you ever answer any of the negative comments? do you get negative comments? there was a point where we had a five minute break and i said i ll take some questions, we got 400 questions in five minutes. i m in the middle of a press tour. i did 80 interviews in one day. you can t answer all of them, but i thought the bubble bath question was definitely worth taking a shot at. what s up next for you? i m just doing this press tour then i m taking some time off. i made too many movies i m chilling. i really want to make the right choice for the next one. well, in a brave decision, you ve also agreed to take part in a segment we re going to do right after this. a little pie tasting where we re going to blindfold you and you re going to join the group. and it has really nothing to do with the pie tasting, it s just savannah wanted to see you in a blindfold. i don t understand the handcuffs. i m not sure about this. i don t understand the handcuff thing, but i didn t know about that. gerard butler. good to have you here. coming up next, he s going to help us celebrate national pi day. but first this is today on nbc. back at 8:50. we ll explain the pies in a moment. but it is justin timberweek on late night with jimmy fallon. a few of it will highlights from last night. life is but a dream row row row your boat gently down the stream merrily merrily merrily you need a suit and tie. my partner is a suit and tie expert. i ll call him in. can you sing about how quickly you work? oh, you want me to sing? i will make you a suit and tie let me measure your inseam seriously, let me measure your inseam. all right. well, time to explain these pies, it is march 14th, 3/14 also known as pi day to celebrate the mathematical constant pi. we re not as good at math as we are at eating. we have the food editor here to celebrate pi. happy pi day. gerard butler decided to stay with us. thank you. any chance to eat pie. exactly. you re going to have us try three rather unusual pies? yes, you re going to be blindfolded. okay. you ll have to guess what they are. okay. gerard, here s your blindfold. here, al, you have one. yeah, we all have them. will we be tasting that? maybe. maybe. okay. all right. they re going to walk these out. all right. is someone going to hand us the fork? he s admitted his sense of taste is not the sharpest. i m not going to say why. i m not going to say why. will the pie be handed to us in our hand? well, he s handing you a fork. i ll step back. let s start here. all right. hold on. matt, can you smell it? can i smell it? do we taste now? we need pie feeders. this is a weird fork. i can t miss my mouth. this is horrible. that is horrible. this is a bacon. take a leap of faith and try that. this is macaroni and cheese. yes! ding, ding, ding. what do you think about that, gerard? it s macaroni and cheese. al blurted it out. and then bacon lettuce crunch. can we look now or no? there s another next. okay. are you handing it? i m going to hand it. okay. are any of them good? i hope so. thank you. this smells better. give gerard another section of that. i think he wants it more than i do. okay. be careful with this part. peanut butter and chocolate. how do i know you re not giving us rat poison. there s another element. caramel. yes! poor gerard is only eating the stuff and not getting a chance to guess. we re all blindfolded, matt. this last one is kind of the hardest. i m really excited for you to try it. i ll take that. i m going to take these off. i ll take that. hey, guys, taste it and hold your answers for a second. okay. what do you have here? here s your pie. i m sorry. there you go. careful. ready? is everyone ready? gerard is eating his now. go ahead, gerard, he s still getting the macaroni and cheese are we supposed to see? he s eating the last sample. let gerard go first. what do you think that is? pineapple? no. strawberry. strawberry. but that s not the secret ingredient. okay. i m going to give you a hint. it s spring vegetable. turnips? no, it s green. lettuce? green. oh, my gosh. a letter of the alphabet. it s a beet? somebody should stop al before he gets to 49th street. where is he? what about the second one? can we take these off? i don t know. okay. thank you for being a good sport. good morning to you. 8:56. i m laura garcia-cannon. a documentary about palo alto native jeremy lin will kick off the cam fest tonight. it follows his burst to stardom with the knicks last year. let s check the forecast with meteorologist christina loren. how s it looking out there? still have some fog but it is clearing quickly. daytime highs will be on the warm side. in san bruno, the fog is starting to clear. it s going to linger over the san francisco bay for most of the day. good-looking st. patrick s day weekend. then the rain moves in tuesday into wednesday of next week. hope you have a fantastic thursday. it s not what you think. it s a phoenix with 4 wheels. it s a hawk with night vision goggles. it s marching to the beat of a different drum. and where beauty meets brains. it s big ideas with smaller footprints. and knowing there s always more in the world to see. it s the all-new lincoln mkz. welcome to today on this thursday morning, march 14th, 2013. inside studio 1a, i m willie geist along with al roker, tamron hall and e! s jason kennedy. serious kicks. that s a comfort shoe. that s a nike bottom deal. very comfortable. i haven t heard men talk about shoes this much since ever. i m with it. i m game. what was happening the pie-eating contest. i walked in from across the street, you re wearing blindfolds eating pie. well, today is national pi day. since we re math idiots, we thought let s do real pie. they blindfold us, it s amazing how different things feel and sensation when you re blindfolded. i didn t know where you were i could tell you didn t know where i was going with it. i didn t it was the way you looked at me. hey, natalie where the faithful are still celebrating the announcement of the new pope. francis. natalie, please save us. natalie, you know what i m experiencing. you know. reporter: i will try. but perhaps i need to say some prayers here for you guys. it seems appropriate. good morning to you all once again. and, yes, as you mentioned, everyone here still celebrating the fact that they have a new pope. pope francis i. of course, formally known as the archbishop of buenos aires jorge bergoglio. he is, of course, getting about the business of his papacy today being the first full day in action already. earlier today, we saw him praying at the santa maria church, and later on this afternoon, he s going to be holding mass with the cardinals who elected him as their new pope at the sistine chapel. now, he is very busy as you can imagine in the coming days preparing for the inaugural mass held here on tuesday in the morning. but we do expect tomorrow he will have a private meeting with his predecessor pope benedict xvi, and that is expected to be, again, in private tomorrow. the choice of the new pope francis, of course, being celebrated around the world by catholics. they see him as a compassionate man. yet still conservative in line with the thinking of the catholic values and the catholic church. but many hoping he will bring about the reform that the catholic church so needs right now. he s clearly the first pope. a lot of firsts. the first pope from south america significant, of course as 40% of the catholics in the world are from latin america and south america and seeing that he will perhaps be the person who can bridge the gap between the old world and the new world. and already, guys, as you can imagine, they re very busily starting to turn out the souvenirs including i got my hands on the first rosary beads here with pope francis right on. that s something to hold on to. but you know what will really be something that will be, i think, worth a lot of money some day is the vatican stamp, which if you ve been here, you know that you can only get the postmark here from vatican city. but this is the stamp. this is the only time they ve ever produced this letter or this card and the stamp. so this right here, my friends, is coming home with me and i think it s going to be worth something some day. beautiful. there you go. couple extras too, natalie. natalie morales in vatican city. yeah. yeah. please help us. because do say those prayers. these two are almost like they re married. he s talking, she s looking at him. no idea. no, i paused because willie was looking at me as if to say i agree. and i was trying to defer to you, it s your show, to let you say something and you jump all over me. did i jump on anyone? i didn t see any jumping going on. jason, stay out of this. let your parents argue, okay. tamron, we ll talk off the kids are in bed. okay. all right. let s go to our take two right now because we ve got a really good one. we re already talking about it. it s a sitcom smackdown. this comes from new york magazine s always entertaining vulture blog. they re holding a bracket in honor of march madness. 16 of the greatest sitcoms of the past 30 years, remind you. it s important to point out there s old ones missing here. laverne and shirley, happy days. what s happening. this is the bracket we have it down to here. each week a different writer is picking the winners. we have the final four now. let me rattle these off and you tell me what you think is missing here. this is from, cheers the office, southpark, malcolm in the middle, cosby show, sex and the city, 30 rock. no full house, no everybody loves raymond, 30 rock knocked out by sex and the city ? delegitimatizes the whole bracket because there s no curb your enthusiaiasenthusiasm. do you watch tv? i have a confession. willie, i know you re going to go in, i ve only seen two of these shows. really? sex and the city and 30 rock. never seen an episode of cheers or the office or arrested development. simpsons, it s been on for 20 years. mark s hyperventilating. south park. i ve never seen i m going to take my show on the road. seinfeld s going to win in my opinion. cheers. i know what seinfeld is, i have not seen. cheers or simpsons. based on what? 20 years and still as good as it is today as it was 20 years ago. one of these four is going to move on in the next couple of hours and you still have a week to go, it s my understanding. is it roseanne roseanne does not belong in this group. why? come on. the simpsons/seinfeld match-up is so great because they re so different and influential in their own way. it s hard to pick. but i bet you re right. cheers / simpsons. and when will we know? why would you care? because i might watch the series. it s too late now. your loss. mail in your votes. hey, but you re part of our take three. this is huge. this is amazing. take three, tamron s new tunes. tamron s got a show on msnbc. at 2:00 eastern. five days a week, i should say. it has a new theme song. wait for it. composed, performed by her biggest fan prince. unbelievable. roll it. by the way, this is the new at newsnation theme song composed for my team than none other than music icon prince. wait a minute. i ve heard that before. this is the theme from the cosby show. you are such a hater. no. that s one of the greatest theme songs of all time. and this this. now you re happy. i don t recognize that. the a-team. i haven t seen that either. tamron, back to the story here. how does this happen? the song s title originally was seventeen and then prince decided to change the name of the song, that prince, the only one, to the newsnation theme song. but why? how? what do you mean why? do you know prince? he doesn t do that for most shows. he s obviously a fan. prince is a news junkie, he s incredible, thoughtful person, engaged with what s going on in the world and so it evolved into this amazing opportunity for me to have this song. it blew me away when i got the e-mail. and he s just he s you are the coolest person in the world. no, he s the coolest person you get the coolest person to do a theme song for you, that makes you cool. here s the best part. i had the song for about three weeks, his people sent the song to me. and i was so nervous i didn t want to reveal the song. i was grooving to the song by myself at home. i ll show you my prince groove. okay. suddenly not the coolest person anymore. there s my other theme song. tamron, is he going to do one for take three. have you talked to him about that? would he do one for take three? jason, you re pushing it. i wanted to ask. this is the part i ve never revealed. guess how long i can use my own theme song for? what? six months. i m sure i can get an extension from prince, i thank him very, very much. he s one of the most amazing individuals. congrats. very cool. thank you. i m blushing. the show every day 2:00 on msnbc, five days a week, right? is it by the way, jason s theme song is from color me bad. fantastic in the 90s. i was 4. all right, tamron, pull yourself together. i ll try my friends. well, there s new research out today on the long-term risks of radiation treatment for breast cancer patients. a study, in fact, of 2,000 women in northern europe found those patients were more likely to develop heart problems years later. doctors say there s no reason to panic because of benefits for radiation patients are the top priority and women can cut their risk of a radiation induced heart attack by controlling your weight and cholesterol. the president heads to capitol hill today for more meetings with democrats and republican lawmakers. this after senate democrats revealed a quote concrete plan to spur economic growth with some $1 trillion in new tax revenues over the coming decade. the budget plan also increases spending, a move that house republicans are opposing with their own counterproposal slashing spending by some $4.6 trillion over the coming decade. and a shift in attitude from american moms. according to a new poll from the pew research center, there s been a major spike in the number of moms who want to work full-time. listen to this, 47% of moms now want to head back to the office. that s up from 21% five years ago. analysts attribute the change to the recession. that makes perfect sense. and mcdonald s is cutting some breakfast calories. the new egg white delight will be a yolk-free version of the egg mcmuffin served on whole grain version of the bread. the new sandwich will have 250 calories compared to 300 50 calories, oh. every amount counts, it s on sale nationally this spring. it is now 11 minutes a of the hour. yo uh don t think 50 calories is a big deal? just do it. go big or go home. that s like diet spam. doesn t work. come on. it s an extra 50 calories allows you to put some jam on it or. go big. if you re going fast food. go with the egg mcmuffin. forget it. egg white delight. prince could sing the theme song for the egg white delight. i don t think that s going to happen. he ll never talk to me again now. it s like the people go to mcdonald s and you order the biggie sized meal with a diet coke. it matters. whatever you say, tamron. how about a check of the weather? good idea. let s see what we ve got for you. for today, we ve got a clipper coming across the great lakes. that s going to bring light snow from minneapolis on into chicago. western new york, no big shakes there. we re looking for plenty of sunshine in l.a. today. although right along the coast, there ll be morning thaw, temperatures there only about 60, about 80 degrees as you make your way into downtown l.a. look for plenty of sunshine down through florida, but rip currents a problem on the east and west coast of florida later 9:12 on a foggy start to the day this thursday morning. taking a live look over san jose. we re going to check on that drive here with mike in just a moment. but i want to let you know that fog is going to clear quickly and temperatures are going to be warm today. also you ll probably notice a layer of haze. we re in the good to moderate air quality range across the bay area. 77 for santa teresa. 68 degrees in san francisco today. getting into the weekend, temperatures stay steady into the mid-70s. have a great day. and that s your latest weather. all right, al, thanks. prince. quit saying that. we can t get over the prince thing. you re making me blush. will you sign my notes. you re going to make me blush, jason. jason wants your autograph. i think it s because i look like prince a little bit. oh, no, i didn t say that. yeah, by the way, there s no mustache, okay. because i shave it. oh, make it stop. i set them up, she kicks them through. jason kennedy, i m sorry you had to sit through this today. thanks for raising the game with the shoes. how to look five years younger in an instant. shave your mustache. new honey bunches of oats greek yogurt and whole grain. here we go. honey cornflakes and chunks of greek yogurt. i m tasting both the yogurt and the honey at the same time. i m like digging this yogurt thing. i feel healthy. new honey bunches of oats greek. you ll really dig the savings at the petsmart spring savings sale. save up to 25% on thousands 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[ male announcer ] combat 8 signs of aging hair. nexxus youth renewal. raise your standard. this morning on today s beauty. what every woman wants to know. how to look five years younger in an instant. a celebrity make-up artist and president of mally beauty. good to see you. good morning, gorgeous. how are you? i m fantastic. is this easier said than done? absolutely. just these little secrets and tips. all you have to do is know how to do them, do them every single day and they will take five years off you. it won t cost us a fortune and we don t need surgery, right? no, honey, that s not how we play. all right. and you still look amazing. always beautiful and these are tips you actually apply to your make-up? absolutely. for myself every day i m 41, always trying to find these cute little ways to make you look fierce instantly. are. okay. let s get to our first proof in the pudding. the first model, let s look at her before picture. shayla 63 years old, here she is now. what did you do? here we go. ready? for me, the rule is this. it is all about the translucent powder being the enemy. oh, girlfriend. hello. there she is. thank you. but look again how beautiful her skin looks. that s what we want to keep. translucent powder is the enemy, will make you look older instantly. why? because it sits in the wrinkles and fine lines and makes every pore look ten times bigger and looks dry and ashy. this is a clear powder. so when you use a clear powder, what it does, it does everything translucent powder wants to do without the nasty side effects. going to make your skin look amazing. fast, quick and easy without all of that cakiness. she still has a glow. absolutely. and if you have any warmth to your skin like you do, the sh. you look beautiful. let s look at our next before picture jen. she is 43 years old. yes, ma am. you look beautiful now as well, jen. and here she is. let s look at the after. flash that beautiful smile. work it, girl. okay. so, again, as we age, we all know we tend to lose color in the face. the cheeks, the lips, the whole nine yards. a beautiful pop of pink blush on the apples of the cheeks. i call it the cinnamon bun method. little in the middle do we really smile when we apply? yes, always on the apples of the cheeks like a beautiful little child. there we go, she got it and that gorgeous pop of lip color, that gorgeous pink. that that s going to make us look younger. the three of us are quite arranged here. yes, in fact, we can all wear it. a soft blue pink if that makes any sense. it has a little bit of a lilacy tone to it. do you feel like you look five years younger? i love it. yes. i really do. i also noticed her eyebrows. we need to make sure they look a little more full? absolutely. it s an instant way to make yourself look younger. thicker eyebrows, lifted eyebro eyebrows, that s going to make you look younger, as well. you re so beautiful. thank you very much. and next up, let s look at the before picture of inga. apparently not disclosing her age because it s not on my paper. and there she is. yeah, there you go. isn t it great? and you focused on her eyes. absolutely. about lifting the eyes, opening up the eyes, curling the lashes. i ve never used an eyelash curler. should we all be using? 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i would do that and then jay-z would find me and beat me. we don t want that. we don t want that to happen. i m willie geist along with al and tamron while natalie is in vatican city this morning. celebrating st. patrick s day. it is this sunday. we ve got ideas on what to wear, what to serve and how to decorate your party with some do-it-yourself green projects. very nice. and speaking of the irish, we are trying out delicious home cooking with hearty beef and stout stew. that s right. we had a misspelling a little earlier said beef and trout stew. probably not as good. not definitely not good. and as kids get older and their parents age, when is the right time to discuss your family s finances and long-term care? really important advice you need to know. we ll get into that in a little bit. but first al has a check of the weather. let s look ahead starting off with today. we ve got sunny skies along the eastern seaboards. lake effect snow showers, little clipper will bring snow from the dakotas into minnesota. plenty of fog along the california coastline, especially the southern california coastline. rip currents along the eastern and west coast of florida. beautiful day tomorrow around the gulf into the southwest, sunny and hot, nice and mild, interior sections in nevada into california, look for showers continuing in the pacific northwest with a clipper bringing more snow from the dakotas across minnesota on into western new york. 9:32 on a thursday morning. good morning, i m meteorologist christina loren. this is san francisco looking out from high atop san bruno mountain. we have quite a bit of low cloud cover lingering. a lot of this is going to stick to the san francisco bay throughout the day. if you want the sunshine, it will be out along the coastline today. you re going to get great beach weather. 97 in livermore. 91 in fremont. 72 in san jose. 68 degrees on the way to san francisco. we ll keep cooling you down just a touch for tomorrow. throughout the next couple of days, temperatures leveling off. nice st. patrick s day, 71 inland. all right, al. thanks, this morning on happy st. patrick s day today, diy green, this sunday going to need a little more than green beer and shamrock shakes for a good party. lifestyle expert. today s your lucky day. this is it. we re getting lucky today. we re going with green diy today, keep you pinch-free for the weekend. now we re starting off with some wearables. the key is to keep it subtle. you don t want to overdo it with the green. all right. so the first one is fabric button earrings and cuff links. i don t know if you ve ever seen this cover button kit. no. but it s an easy way to make your own fabric buttons. grab any sort of fabric, cut out a circle, you place the fabric on top of this button cover here, grab your button, press down. and all you have to do is actually tuck in the rest of the fabric into the button and add in the final back. press down pretty hard and once you remove it, look, you can see here. there you go. and it hooks into here? yeah, you add the fabric earrings to the back of them to create earrings and we make cuff links for the guys. you re liking the head bands this year? every woman has ribbon and hair elastics at their house. cut them in half, measure about a foot or so of decorative ribbon, and you can see all of these beautiful head bands here. again, it s a little pop of color. you don t need to go crazy with the green. okay. next up, color blocking, i don t know if you ve been paying attention to the runways. this is a big trend. very carefully. we re taking the color blocking to your shoes, green shoes to be exact. we ve got green flats here. you put a plastic bag on and spray paint them gold. you can do the tips, the heels. just hardware store spray paint? yeah, super easy. great way to class up your heels or flats. and keep that look after st. paddy s day? something you wear year round. cool. moving to the guys. what do we got here? these are last-minute if you re in a pinch. see what i did there? yeah. amazing. the tie bar. this is something i didn t know was popular. so we ve actually used paper clips and nothing but this cord ribbon and all you do is tie a knot around your paper clips and start wrapping. and you can see at the end that s a paper clip? this is a paper clip. very cool. isn t that amazing? may i? yes, of course. and you can use the same with these little piles really, really simple way to go green. and if you want to go next level, bow tie. if you don t have your own tie, you can create a bow tie. again, last minute, if you have ribbon left over or even a scarf, you tie it in a bow, wrap it around your neck and make for a fun little tie to wear on st. patrick s day. that might be alittle aggressive. i think we ll start with the tie clip and go from there. moving on food to wash down the beer, of course. this is a fun thing i found on pinterest. put your cupcake liners in the tin, use marbles, put in food coloring and creates these shamrock cup cakes. we decorated them with frosting and punch straws. this is wonderful. i introduced you to the concept of hombre. yeah, i didn t know it until you. now we do it with hair and now hair, fashion, and now pretzels. it s the lighter shade of a color to the dark shade of the color. like the gradient effect. we made it here. using white candy melts. melt them up, add food color to get a darker version of the green and we topped it off with yummy green circles. i like that. i want to get to the beers. tell me quickly about the bottles. yeah. quickly if you want to dye your white flowers green, put more food coloring in the water. and use painters tape and gold spray paint to put interesting patterns. water, beer, all you need there. let s talk business here. we ve got green beer here. how did you crease this? we create this? it s food coloring. we created a pretty chevron pattern. it is all about the beer this sunday. take a regular beer, couple of drops in. tastes the same, i promise. happy st. paddy s day. up next, getting parents and adults to see eye-to-eye about money right after this. 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[ dogs barking ] hoda hasn t barked, are you going to make us wait? you gave us a little woof and that was it. i need to have a lot more incentive than you saying we should do it. last night, jimmy fallon had some fun with us. there was a study that came out yesterday that talked about how taking a resveritrol i can t say it i have to drink it. if you took it in a pill form. it would be the equivalent of 100 glasses of wine and that could keep us alive well into our hundreds. jimmy had some fun with that. a new study found that a chemical in red wine could help humans live to be 150 years old. which explains why the fourth hour of the today show is renewed for 200 more seasons. we love those guys. no matter what he says, we never get mad at him. we love him. and justin timberlake has been killing it on that show. he s on a roll, boy. it s been such fun to watch. he and jimmy together. they re like little boys in a candy store, aren t they? yes. breaking news from yesterday, you guys know now there is a new pope and it was so interesting to watch this whole thing unfold on this particular day. from the smoke that came out of the chimney to the introduction of a person who a lot of us of course are seeing for the first time. and i got to say, my first impression just watching him on tv was there was such a warmth and a connection with him and the crowd. and the fact that he started off this moment, instead of blessing the crowd like i guess the way popes have done for so many years. he asked for a blessing for himself to pray for him. so it was very humbling i thought in a nice way to begin his papacy. apparently that s not a show, that s the essence of the man. we all know how he lived so simply. he is actually living testimony to what the gospel really is. the gospel means good news. and it s good news to the poor. and he is a beautiful testimony of service. do you know that in buenos aires he would clean, wash and clean and kiss the feet of aids patients. yes. this is what s been missing in not just the catholic church, but in many churches around the world, is service in the name of a loving god. and it s really, really thrilling to see. i am not catholic, but i cried. i just loved his tender heart. i loved that he didn t wear all the robes and stuff. if he says he s a follower of jesus, jesus was the poorest of the poor. didn t have a stone was his pillow. you know. and if you re going to represent him as the vicar, you know, then identify with him. and i think this is a brilliant start. he s 76 years old and a lot of people first looked at it and said, wait, 76? you know that s they thought maybe they would go a little younger. we re here to tell you and we re going to list some people who are older and really rocking it. okay? here we go. besides frank? besides frank gifford. who should be first on the list. queen elizabeth, 86 years old. she s ten years older. she s doing great. warren buffett, 82. uh-huh. the kink of saudi arabia, 88. the prime minister of india, 80. rupert murdoch, 82. the formula one ceo, bernie ecclestone. senator frank lawsuitenberg of new jersey, 89 lautenberg. and ralph hall from texas, will be 90 in a couple of months. it makes me feel a little bit better about my milestone coming this summer. how do you feel about that milestone? you know what? it s just starting to dawn on me and it s like, i m just surprised by it all the time. that i m going to be 60 years old. how the heck in honor of the pope, did that happen? would i love to be 40 again? in some ways, but i had cass when i was 40 and i ve got a beautiful almost 20-year-old and cody is going to be 23. and i think when you start thinking about ha you ve lost in life, you lose the moment right now you lose the joy and the gift of right now. that s why it s called a present. i like that. it s right now. and you just, if you just concentrate, hoda on what you do have, still have a lot. you know a lot to be grateful for. and we talk about the james taylor song kw the secret of l is to be enjoy where you are at the time. so here s bad news, if you re on a carnival cruise ship. this is not great. another issue with carnival, you guys. the carnival cruise ship dream is docked, in port at phillipsberg in st. maarten. they re having according to some people on the boat, power outages and overflowing toilets. 5,000 passengers could be on board. apparently carnival cruise put out a statement that said there s a technical issue, but at no time did the ship lose power there were some periodic interruptions of elevators and toilets. i obviously have a soft spot for carnival, i worked with them for 20 years as their spokesperson. they got very big after that i m not sure what the situation is here. but i know they take everything very seriously. i hope they solve the problem very quickly. you can t have all of these kinds of things happening before it starts affecting things. i wish them all the best. but you can t blame this one on me, you know what i m saying? blame it on george bush, okay? the best speeches in the united states, by trip adviser. here are a couple of suggestions. a bunch of people on the website weighed in. on their favorite beaches and here they are the third best beach is the gulf island s national seashore in pensacola, florida. i agree, you can camp on the beach, 150-mile stretch of it, it runs from cat island, mississippi, to santa rosa island in florida, it s like sugar. i ve never seen such white sand in my life, it s glorious. number two, siesta key, a public beach in sarasota. clean, hard-packed sand there. the number one and i have to agree with this one as well, top beach in the whole country is kanapali beach in hawaii. great for long walks, swimming, snorkeling, sunsets, and views. let s go. hoda needs to take her thong. this is so exciting, i have such a great i heart hoda. just when i was in a good mood. this is about people shopping in a thrift shop. people shopping in a thrift shop. we got the clean version, so no one freak out. it s by macklemore. so first you have to feel a little of the beat. are you feeling little bit of it? no. come on. okay, here it comes. i get it, i get it. and i hate it. how can you hate it? i love it. how can you from singing cinderella yesterday, where there s actual music by rogers and hammerstein. we went to see we had to leave early because of the pope announcement. but your reaction was different from mine. yes, cinderella we just have a couple of seconds, because we have to talk to sara. i loved it for my niece. i think she will totally go crazy over cinderella, the costume change, the beautiful scenery. they were all very excited. for people like me who grew up on the leslie ann warren one and whatever year it was, i missed that story and missed hearing all of those songs in their entirety. so that just shows you it s a generational thing. but everybody is good in it. very good. hey, miss sara haynes. today to announce johnson s baby of the week. celebrating new moms and their bundles of joy. first up is kiley james macarthur. next up, surprise, surprise, is elliott joseph holland dodson, who made his debut on january 11th, in california. mom and dad, are so happy 2-year-old ava is a big sister. and finally our third today s johnson baby of the week is kennedy claire fagan, born to kelly and gregory of los gatos, california. a big congratulations to all of our babies. if you d like your baby to be considered for johnson s baby of the week, go to our website, at klgandhoda.com. you re our baby, sara. our hair and makeup team have worked their magic. two lucky ladies reveal their ambush makeovers. and justin timberlake s new gig. and i believe our friend jason is here in our weekend chat is here, we ll be right back. you re doing okay, mom. i can call you mom, right? i know we haven t known each other very long, but you seem like a real keeper. you re not perfect. but you re trying. anyway, i want you to know how much i appreciate you. you know, right? how much i love you. you re doing okay, mom. yeah, he s a liquid gold digger. babe how about you make me some of that velveeta cheesy broccoli soup i love so much? oh and you re so pretty. 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how about the call ? with halle berry. she plays, pretty scary, she s a 911 operator, she gets a call from a teenaged girl, abigail breslin. that s one, she spends the hour trying to save her from her abductor. we re leaving out wonderstone. if you want to lighten the mood and go to the box office, they pay competing magicians. is it funny? it looks cheesy, but that s my concern. it looks a little cheesy. if you re going to stay home and pop the popcorn, what should we watch? a lot of this stuff coming out, have been nominated nor oscars. visually stunning, it didn t win an oscar. by i thought it should. ang lee directed this. and hitchcock his relationship with his wife while they were shooting psycho. was it psycho ? i think so. if it was, i want to see it. and life of the guardians an animated movie, an all-star cast. they team up and take down an evil man who is trying to steal kids dreams. can i tell you what i m addicted to on netflix? house of cards. i watched 13 episodes. i m done. it s so good. that s how you do it. i m learning, i m learning. you know hoda when she falls in love. celebrity news, adam sandler and drew barrymore are teaming up again. it s the wedding singer 1998 the first time they got together, and then they did 50 first dates. the third romantic comedy for them doesn t have a title, but they play a couple at a family resort. they get trapped there with their kids from a previous marriage. i think it will be fun. kyra has a beautiful picture with that baby. i love that she s doing this. because many times when celebs don t do photos like this the paparazzi go to crazy measures to get the shots. there s gerard pique, her man. he s a soccer player. and the little guy is rocking daddy s jersey. the voice is getting ready to start. your favorite show. and shakira is gearing up to be a judge. blake shelton. it will be a good season with the two new judges, right? 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terry greeg is a volunteer with the colon cancer awareness and the chairman of the wonder glow foundation. and dr. is the director of gast gastr gastroenterology. i ve been very fortunate, i feel for the most part wonderful. i have some weeks when i m going still through treatment that are a little rough. but i continue to train and run marathons and do half ironmans and hopefully another ironman in the fall. that s unbelievable, if you don t mind my saying. it s incredible. thank you. and you were just 28, how are you doing? doing well. i just finished my 46th round of chemo on monday and flew here on tuesday. but i m doing well, running the foundation and working out. lifting weights, playing basketball. and the doctor, we have to ask this. we know that the guideline is the age of 50 to start getting your colonoscopies. and a lot of people are terrified of them. but the truth is, the thought of them is much worse than the actual treatment. the preparation is the bad part and that s nothing. but if it s caught early, it s so easy to cure. yes. and these ladies, they were caught quite late. and they re doing so well it seems, are we making huge strides now? tremendous hope with this disease. the first point is as you say, don t wait until you get symptoms, when you re well is the time to talk to your doctor about screening and prevention. colon cancer is one of the most preventible and curable of all cancers that we know of. the earlier we catch it, the greater the chance of curing it. when you got diagnosed and learned about it you spoke to some of your family members and we have your sister is over there. and tell us what happened when you talked to your sisters when they got checked. i was 48 at the time and screening is at 50 and my sisters were over 50 and had never been screened. immediately after i was diagnosed. they went and had colonoscopies, my one sister had precancerous polyps and my other sister was diagnosed with stage three colon cancer. this was all within two weeks of my diagnosis. so it s familial then in this sense, it s genetic? exactly. there s about a 20% to 30% chance of it being spread from a family member. so you have a family history of colon cancer, young people in the family with colon cancer, sometimes uterine or ovarian cancer can be related. polyps or colon cancer is a family issue. you are so young. did you have, what symptoms if any did you have? i had plenty of symptoms, because i was so young. i think people sort of wrote them off, including myself. so i went to the bathroom frequently and they weren t impressive performances. you had a lot of diarrhea. i felt myself bloated at night, things like that it didn t stop me, i was working 14-hour days and working out. and when things got to really severe point i thought i had food poisoning, i couldn t keep anything down. even in the hospital, it took six days for me to get a colonoscopy and that s when they found the massive tumor in my colon. did you have bleeding? no. so it s not always bleeding. no. actually the symptoms can be very, someone could just feel tired and have anemia as a presenting form. and 50 is a magic number. just like with breast cancer screenings, they say wait until you re a certain age there are people who are exceptions to this? absolutely. if there s a family history. the key is not to make the decision yourself. but talk to your doctor about it. any bowel disease, my sister had acute colitis, the more you talk about it and get it out in the open. it s nothing to be ashamed of. but bowel issues are called the silent diseases. nobody wants to talk about them. if you don t talk about them, you can t fix them. you guys are amazing. thank you for coming in. and thank you, doctor. we ll take you to today s kitchen for some down-home irish cooking. but first, this is today on nbc. we re back with what s cooking on st. patrick s day. and this weekend, everybody is irish, so we re making traditional irish comfort food. apparently this dish needs a little coddling. chef rachel allen has a brand-new cookbook. rachel s new irish cookbook. aren t you like you re beautiful. like an irish spring commercial. we re going to make some coddle. dublin coddle. which is like a big cuddle in a bowl. but it comes from a term to simmer slowly. it s one of those economical dishes, that s always made on a thursday before the no meat day on friday. to use up all the bacon and bacon we ve got, ham as you call it and potatoes. really simple. you have to have potatoes. so basically the first thing you do, i ve got finely chopped onion. and throw those in. and i ve got some breakfast sausages chopped up. like this. and then peeled, chopped potatoes. i m using your russets, actually they are work quite well. and some stock. or you could use your ham cooking water. if you cook your ham. all do you is put this on. allow it to simmer for about ten, 12 minutes, until you come to this. a little boil. a little boil and you can see here, that the potatoes are just soft, i think. and then i m going to add in ham and i love it when it kind of shreds, this cooked ham. this is traditional irish food, really simple as you can see. hearty, nutritious. you know, if you re feeling poorly, if you re feeling cold, this is the thing. this is the thing to eat, comfort food and some chopped parsley. there we go. and a little salt. i m going to give it a little taste. because the ham and the sausages. we might not need any salt. this is, this is great as it is. actually i ll put a bit of salt in at the beginning, but oh! and then, you just that is about as easy as it gets. hey, hey. you know, something, it s quite, this kind of food is quite cool again in northern ireland. but it s traditional and lovely. what about the dessert you have on the table? porter, porter being stout, it s got stout in it. and actually sometimes people even used to pour some begin he is into the coddle. but i don t like that. don t guesseinness your codd. it looks delicious. and you two kind of like having a little we like having a little bit earlier in the morning. while you re making us your drink, we re going to go over a little okay or not okay. so this we rant out of time. is it okay or not okay to kiss your tv guests on the lips? here s what we had to say about that. absolutely. i still haven t gotten over my kiss from tom sellick in 2,000. yes, it s okay, but only if it s george clooney. or tom sellick. oh yes. thank you so much for this. delicious. all right. tomorrow we have a great performance by the group, the celtic thunder and we also want to warn you we want to warn you now. hide the children tomorrow. you will discover things about hoda and you. never dreamed possible. if you like shrimp, then you re going to love sizzler s shrimp combos starting at just $9.99! four kinds of shrimp, seasoned just right and served in three new combinations. at sizzler! right now at 11:00, a mass celebrating newly elected pope francis is just wrapping up in rome. we ll show you how he spent his first day as head of the catholic church and the unusual thing he did right after being elected. we now know how a registered sex offender was allowed to join a high school field trip in the south bay. i m bob redell. that story coming up. we take you north to san francisco. how about a nice live look at the transamerica building. a beautiful day outside. we re expecting a very pleasant one but rain could soon be on the way. meteorologist christina loren will have your complete forecast coming up in a matter of minutes. good morning, everybody. thank you for joining us. i m jon kelley. i m marla tellez. it has been a very busy first day for pope francis. he began his morning with a private prayer service and less than 24 hours on the job, he s already turning heads for his unique style of leadership. nbc s tracie potts has more from rome. reporter: ducking in a side entrance, pope francis made his first public appearance this morning at santa maria, a handful of well-wishers among the first to greet the new pontiff. this afternoon, celebrating mass with the cardinals in the sistine chapel where he was elected, humble, yes, but the vatican says he also has a sense of humor. he said, may god forgive you for what you ve done. reporter: the simple jesuit from argentina riding the public bus, the pope s humble lifestyle now on display all over rome. i think they re going to all be in shock. this may not be a man who wants to wear silk and furs. reporter: last night after