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The conservative leadership in the Congress does not accept that cutting defense is the right path restoring fiscal responsibility. The Republican candidate for president has already come out in favor of not cutting defense. Regardless of who wins in Washington in November, conservatives are unlikely to abandon their rediscovered commitment to defense -- as long as they also retain their commitment to low taxes and entitlement reform.
>> i think perhaps you're right. he certainly had academic patter down a lot better than a lot of them did. to me, and i grew up in massachusetts, paul ryan is the biggest fake i've ever seen in politics. i mean, nobody's close. if he's not doing this, you know, phony wonk thing, you know, where he's -- he's putting together his budgets with magic asterisks, he's going down the old jack kemp fwral how he cares about poor folks. paul ryan cares about one thing and only one thing shoving as much wealth up to the very, very top of the food chain and making sure it doesn't trickle back down again....
Know, phony wonk thing, you know, where he's -- he's putting together his budgets with magic asterisks, he's going down the old jack kemp trail about how he cares about poor folks. paul ryan cares about one thing and only one thing shoving as much wealth up to the very, very top of the food chain and making sure it doesn't trickle back down again. that's the summation of paul ryan's legacy. >> that's a much clearer through line than deficits and debt i think. of you said look at what he's done. although there is something that is interesting in his career, ruth, which is the ryan budget. i thi...
>> -- i think trump was right. every time ryan would present one of these budgets, everybody else in the republican caucus would hide behind the drapes rather than attach themselves to it because they knew what political poison it was. >> that's exactly right. you saw it as two moments. the bush social security privatization fight and the ryan budget where there's an uncommon degree of it and in both cases you saw massive political blow back. ruth, what you get is a lot of bait and switch which is basically what we got with the tax bill. >> yeah. i think the other thing that's important to not...
That. i mean, you know, my abiding memory of paul ryan will be joe biden laughing at him during a debate, which as far as i know is unprecedented in american political debating. that was the -- you know, it was an economic discussion that brought out the word malarkey which had never appeared in a presidential or vice presidential debate before. yeah, with the donald trump thing, you know, there's a story about a blind pig and an acorn, but i think, you know, with his kind of ferrell predator instinct for political danger -- >> exactly. >> -- i think trump was right. every time ryan would pres...