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who knows obama, i don't think he's ever willfully ignorant. i think you can certainly disagree with the policies. but the question is is there a strategy -- and you know we throw that word around strategy and it really means planning a year or two out, not just doing stuff. >> and -- >> there's no planning going on here for the whole region. >> unfortunately, katty, it seems very reactive. you have -- i wrote a column for politico this morning where we've had two failed presidents i believe, as commanders in ef choos because you had one reacting to 9/11 overreacting. and then you had his successor, overreacting to his extremes to the bush/cheney extremes. this was opening paragraph. if anyone disagrees, this follows up with bob was saying
the rash impulses of a former president on behalf of a potential one. whether this will work is a great unknown of the 2016 race. if mr. clinton veers far off script with just one stunner of a comment, the campaign could stumble. >> robert gibbs you're smirking because you were a mean mean man. you baited bill clinton time and again. and he always took the bait. >> he did often take the bait. and i think much of what patrick writes is very true. i think the real thing from that reporting and from what we saw was he really lacked confidence in the strategy that she had and the team that she had, so he would call people up and he would tell his guys, i'm going to go basically on stage and fix our strategy right here. i think the strategy now of having him inside that tent a more active participant in how that strategy unfolds and how it gets communicated makes him a potentially very important weapon on the campaign trail if
clinton and. incluesed him in these discussions. this is not having somebody backstage and wags his finger and coulds him when he's off message. it's somebody that puts him and i'm parts him into this strategy. he's the best political communicator we've seen in a really long time. >> thank you so much. greatly appreciate it. luke, stay with us. coming up, with the deadline looming, dr. brzezinski will be there for the latest on the iranian nuclear talks. you're watching "morning joe." 20? purina one true instinct has 30. active dogs crave nutrient-dense food. so we made purina one true instinct. learn more at purinaone.com many wrinkle creams come with high hopes, but hope... doesn't work on wrinkles. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair has the fastest retinol formula... to work on fine lines and even deep wrinkles in just one week. neutrogena®. don't just visit orlando
traveling staff with him, not some sort of huge, you know going to attract its own media attention. mostly about having sort of a senior level traveling aide not just a body man to carry, you know, his luggage, but a senior aide who is going to be back stanlg with him right before he goes on at events who is going to be prepping him, focusing him on her message. you know as much as possible. look, this is a guy, bill clinton, some of his brilliance comes out from the improvization. they don't want to put him in a box that you know is never going to work. but they really are looking at having a much different operation than in 2008. >> robert gibbs? >> i will just say, patrick, robert gibbs, how do you not just -- because as you just said, the brilliance of bill clinton is his ability to get people to see things that might not be so obvious. so it's more than just having somebody standing backstage that says don't go off script. it really is a strategy for how you use all of his immense
political talents. isn't that the case? >> absolutely. and a lot of that is behind the scenes involving him more in the strategy in messaging, in looking at the polling. look, a lot of his frustration, robert as you remember in 2008, was the fact that people involved in hillary's campaign were very used to keeping him at a distance for protecting hillary clinton from bill clinton a lot of the times. this time i think there's a hope that if you sent the size if you bring him into the operation much more in a dieynamic way he will be happier, he will feel like he's part of this message and he will be of service to her in a greater way. >> all right. patrick, thank you so much. greatly appreciate it. >> i will say this. >> that's great, patrick. >> i think there's two really important people here right? john and robbie both of whom -- i know john does and we read that robbie does as well, has a great relationship with bill
never happen again. my son and everyone on that plane should not be forgotten ever. >> that was katy tur reporting. let's go to the "new york times" which is reporting the hillary clinton election team is grappling with how to deploy former president bill clinton out on the trail. the article by patrick healy says mr. clinton's role was so mismanaged in 2008 that it caused some of the campaign's most damaging moments. in it healy writes quote, in that race the former president was at times a frustrated and unpredictable presence operating on his own, calling up some of his wife's aides to second-guess strategy and shifting the news media's attention from her to him with stray remarks, such as when he set off african-american anger by diminishing barack obama's success in south carolina. this time advisers and political associates say both clintons understand how critical it is to harness both the rare gifts and
go down to south carolina and, you know sort of muck it up as much as it happened. 2016 really hoping, gn again, he's going to focus on reaching out to black voter, reaching out to hispanic voters and let her do the retail politics. the question is can he stay on message, what does he need to stay on message? >> let me just say, bill clinton seen as america's first african-american president by bill clinton. luke russert? >> patrick healy, luke here. t question for you. it seems to me that unlike any other presidential campaign in this case the spouse will certainly have as large a microphone as the actual candidate. are they planning on running parallel campaigns here? and if so is there any change specifically for bill clinton from the team that was around him in '08 which many people thought enabled him too much and played right into the strategy that mr. gibbs to my right set for them all those traps? >> luke very much so. it's a whole new team that's going to be around bill clinton. they're looking at a small