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when he says things like i hurt the ones that i love the most. we talked about shelly. after randolph's funeral. shows up early. she might have said wednesday, but there was other information at randolph's funeral was on monday. anyways, shows up early. wants to come. in goes and moves vehicles. and then there's that rain coat. huge rain coat. she calls it a tarp, a huge rain coat. it's got a ton of gsr on the inside and found in a closet
that's why he lied. when confronted with new evidence that he denied, he backtracks, he pivots and tells a new story from that stand and looks you in the eye. and then when new evidence comes up on cross, he backtracks and pivots and tells another new lie. i'm sure if he could get up there -- let me rephrase that again. he said so many witnesses are lying on him. they're all lying on him. the one thing we know is that he lied to them. mark is lying, shelly is lying, blanca is lying. everybody is lying on the master liar.
9:22 to 9:32 is the steps and 9:31 you have two system startups. what did you hear from shelly? that he called but it's still took a number of minutes before he came in. that's about six minutes there. meanwhile what is he so busy there at alameda? meanwhile, rogan trying to call his friend to no avail. he tries to message maggie. tell paul to call me. neither one of them can respond. still busy guy at alameda. 9 9:35, 60 steps.
>> at our friend shelly's wedding he was so drunk. what's really out of it. when we got to the wedding, our friends were letting us know that michelle and jason were fighting. and they were referring to it as world war iii. >> jennifer powers told investigators about another fight that october. michelle wanted her mother to stay with him for the holidays and jason, who had a tense relationship with his mother-in-law, wanted to limit her stay. said so in an email. along with another nugget. >> he wrote that our marriage has seen better days and i don't see it trending up. and i remember that really struck a chord with me, because i did not know that their marriage had seen better days. >> so of course investigators wanted to interview jason young. maybe he could tell him something. but he refused to talk to them. >> he talked to the lawyer and then under the advice of
different things. i think at one time i did say that. you know, routinely through this thing, i kept saying, you know, when you get this data, you will see exactly. when you look at my phone, you will see exactly. you know? me giving the times was always given with the thought that, okay, there's onstar out there, there's whatever. >> when you had a conversation with miss shelly after the fact, you asked her to say that you were there longer than 20 minutes. >> you know, i heard shelly's testimony. i believe shelly to be a good person. i wasn't trying to influence shelly on any particular length of time because at the beginning of this, i believed that data
would show what data would show. for me to tell her to say something when my onstar will show something different doesn't make any sense. i can't answer that. what my recollection is is that i told shelly that law enforcement would be talking to her. we may have discussed how long i was there. at that point in time if i thought i was there 45 minutes, i may have said i was here 45 minutes. i can't tell you. >> is that the same thing that blanca testified to, that you closed to her about the clothes that you were wearing that made her uncomfortable, correct? >> ask that question again. >> it's similar to your conversation with blanca that she testified about when you talked to her about the clothes that you were supposedly wearing
including connection time? does that sound about right? >> that does sound about right. >> arrived at 9:22, does that sound about right? >> it does. >> and then at 9:24, you call -- that's the landline, is that correct? >> that is correct. >> you went inside, is that right? >> yeah, that's right. i called the house phone to get shelly to let me in. >> when you were asked by law enforcement how long you were at your mother's house, you said 45 minutes to an hour, isn't that correct? >> i think i said a couple of
made sure she was okay. >> did you stay seated on the side of her hospital-style bed or did you move around? >> i mean, i stayed there for a few minutes, you know. i stayed there and i talked to her. more than just a few seconds. and then -- but i didn't stay there. she was -- she did look tired. so i got up. and i went and i -- i think i sat on my mom's bed for a minute to start with, and then i laid down on my mom's bed, which is, you know, that's what i normally did when i went in there. there wasn't a lot of chairs to sit in. and i just laid back on the bed. >> and -- >> and talked to shelly and watched tv. >> are you referring to her regular bed? >> that's right. not her hospital bed. not the bed she was in, but her -- her bed, the one i was talking about with, like, posts.
-- i just talked to her, you know? i just talked to her. made sure she was okay. >> did you stay seated on the side of her hospital-style bed or did you move around? >> i stayed there for a few minutes, you know. i stayed there and i talked to her. more than just a few seconds. and then -- but i didn't stay there. she was -- she did look tired. so i got up and i went and i think i sat on my mom's bed for a minute to start with and then i laid down on my mom's bed, which is -- that's what i normally did when i went in there. it wasn't a lot of chairs to sit in and i just laid back on the bed. talked to shelly and we watched tv. >> when you are talking about your mom's bed are you referring to her regular bed? >> that's right. not her hospital bed. not the bed she was in. but her bed, one i was talking