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that in a place like china, it's very hard for your frustrations to be known because there are these bottom—up democratic institutions for people to vent their frustrations —— there aren't. so when they are very frustrated, it builds up into huge protests, and this is happened repeatedly in chinese history. i like to say it takes 1 million people to make change, it takes 1oo 1 million people to make change, it takes 100 million in china. in a certain sense, it's less stable in china because it requires these huge movements to make change. ﬁx, requires these huge movements to make change.— to make change. a fascinating insiuht, to make change. a fascinating insight. and — to make change. a fascinating insight, and in _ to make change. a fascinating insight, and in terms - to make change. a fascinating insight, and in terms of - to make change. a fascinating insight, and in terms of how. insight, and in terms of how people are organising themselves, how do you think they are doing that? what are you expecting over the course of the next few days in terms of the next few days in terms of further demonstrations, or even a crackdown? i of further demonstrations, or even a crackdown?— of further demonstrations, or even a crackdown? i think the big question _ even a crackdown? i think the big question we _ even a crackdown? i think the big question we are _ even a crackdown? i think the big question we are all- big question we are all wondering is how are they organising this? it's not that coordinated, these are very spontaneous — saturday night in

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shanghai, it was a smaller group of student organisers with their vigilfor a group of student organisers with their vigil for a room she, and then onlookers started dissipating. —— urumqi. videos that show protests are muted, that's happened to me too. so if there are not a lot of coordinators right now, how does the government crackdown without a set of ringleaders? let's not say this is a mass movement yet, like 1989 or even iran now, it'sjust too movement yet, like 1989 or even iran now, it's just too early, iran now, it's just too early, i wouldn't say that. so it's not a mass movement. how can the government really crackdown, short ofjust crackdown, short of just locking crackdown, short ofjust locking us up again? which i don't think will happen, i think the communist party is in a real pickle right now. indeed, frank, thanks so much forjoining us again on newsday. and you'll find much

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