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The History of Comedy-20191027-06:07:00

now, without its figurehead, a man willing to lead its followers to death, but only from the shadows. >> a startling moment where isis has received a body blow in their ideology. make no mistake, the grievances, the sense of disenfranchisement of brutalized life that allowed them to grow in the first place, and in iraq, where many of the sunnis feel disenfranchised. these people are aggrieved. something like isis will continue to regroup, possibly thrive, despite the death of its leader. but a seismic blow. let me talk a little bit about what we know about this instant. we know the special forces commandos. and that's a ground raid. it was an idlib province. that's enormously significant for the story.

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The History of Comedy-20191027-05:43:00

isis and lost people in it, too. a man who preached hate and managed to take the most disenfranchised and most suffering parts of the middle east, the sunnis, syrians and iraqis, to congeal into a hateful caliphate and a existed vision of islam, it seems deceased. >> it's with a shudder that al baghdadi said, i'll see you in new york. that's why there's trepidation and relief in cities around the world. in 2014, we had an isis-inspired attack with a truck. this has impacted people around the world. and unfortunately may continue to. nick paton walsh, continuing to stand by. we continue to cover a u.s.

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The History of Comedy-20191027-07:44:00

baghdadi marks the end of a chapter, certainly, in isis' history. he was the man who authored the ideology. it was born from the insurgency in iraq against the u.s. invasion presence there and sort of morphed or metastasized. taking on, exploiting the grievances of sunnis in syria after the lengthy bombardments of the assad regime in the north of the country, allowing that to f foement the loathing. the nhatred. to create a bridge. but certainly, today, a question about the documentation of this, the location of where this occurred, the official confirmation from the united states that it is abu bakr al baghdadi before we move on to what the implications are for

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The History of Comedy-20191027-04:18:00

part of the idea. that was part of the message. and there were some who say what they were effectively doing was after years of brutality in the syrian civil war inflicted upon sunnis in the north and other parts of syria they were coming forward and saying we are cape avl similar military brutality. there are others who say part of this strategy was to create extraordinary distance between those who are followers of isis and the rest of the world. one of the broad failings of all of this is that they managed to create themselves as so much of the other, people who we simply can't seem to understand how people would get behind such a radical, brutal ideology. but never ever bothered to really work out what their actual human grievances were. a lot of isis stems from the discontent of sunnis in parts of iraq and syria who'd been bombed, who'd been disenfranchised, who feel totally marginalized and then found themselves actually welcoming a group like isis to provide some sort of stability or at least rules, at least some sense of military protection. none of this excuses what they did, but the broad failing you

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Lockup San Antonio - Extended Stay-20191027-05:30:00

and there was initially a period of stability. but then after it became clear that the u.s. invasion changed the dynamic on the ground in syria profoundly, that the sunnis in power, who had been in power for decades -- saddam hussein was a sunni. in fact, sunnis had been in power for centuries in iraq. when the united states invaded, it changed that dynamic by bringing democracy, by bringing an open vote. sunnis, who were the -- excuse me. shia, who were the majority, suddenly took power, and the sunnis there felt increasingly isolated. they felt increasingly ostracized, angry, and a sunni insurgency began. and baghdadi was part of this sunni insurgency right from the beginning. the insurgency changed names many times, about you it eventually came to be known as al qaeda in iraq. al qaeda -- an al qaeda

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Lockup San Antonio - Extended Stay-20191027-04:46:00

now. what can you tell us about the history of baghdadi and how he came to power? >> reporter: so, baghdadi has -- well, may have been, was the latest in a line of isis leaders. isis began as a faction of iraq, of al qaeda in iraq. so when u.s. forces went into iraq in 2003, the initial invasion which you remember quickly, the first six months to a year they were more or less welcomed in. but then the situation on the ground turned worse and worse, and the people realized that suddenly the u.s. invading force had changed the political dynamic and sunnis were now on their back foot, that sunni -- sunnis had been pushed out of power, and that the shi'a moment had come. and this led to a great deal of

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Lockup San Antonio - Extended Stay-20191027-04:47:00

anger, a great deal of frustration, alienation among sunnis. some of those sunnis aligned up with elements of the -- with the ousted saddam regime, and some of those sunnis formed together and they formed a group that went by a variety of names, but eventually came to be known as al qaeda in iraq. baghdadi came from this group. zakawi was also killed in a special operations raid. he was perhaps the group's most notorious leader the first time around. he was the one who really characterized the group's modus operandi, which was to terror ize civilians, to capture hostages, to behead them on video. like bin lauden himself, he was america's number one enemy. baghdadi did something different.

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New Day Weekend With Victor Blackwell and Christi Paul-20191019-11:19:00

non-kurdish sunnis who live there. when you see a guy like mitch mcconnell who's very careful about criticizing the president and come out so strongly in this washington op-ed, that's a signal not that this decision is bad but he thinks it's going to be so bad he wants to put the republican party on the right side of it and he wants to make sure they put a marker in the ground to say they knew this was going to be a terrible decision. that's not just a blow for american credibility or the kurds. it's a problem for the whole region that we haven't begun to even wrap our minds around. >> absolutely. and aless a huge blow for civilians who they're dealing with. i want to talk more about that, but i want to get you to first fact-check the president. he tweeted this. think of how many lives we saved in siri and turkey by getting a cease-fire yesterday. thousands and thousands and maybe more. is there truth to that, and tell

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Up With David Gura-20191013-12:52:00

there. and that will undermine trump's alleged purpose of i want to end the endless wars in the middle east. he kicked the war down 5 tore 10 more years by doing what he is doing. it is a mess. >> i'll ask you to assess the threat from all of this. we see the prisoners escaping. they are talking how the caliphate was under control. he talked about this in statist terms. what you write about in the book was a post-state threat. you are dealing with an entity that is beyond borders. >>y he. >> there is a narrowness of focus on the president's part incident to get to your point. how fearful should we all be of the people escaping prisons. >> as president obama said, isis is not an existential threat to the u.s. one of the larger themesis this weaponization of grievance happening around the world. they represented the sunnis. putin is with russians felt left

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The Lead With Jake Tapper-20191009-20:39:00

fighters. now that was far-fetched frankly back then and more far-fetched when he suggested it again today. they are held by syrian kurds who would be under attack by turkey so somehow amid that pitch battle this hand-over of 2,000 or more of the most dangerous possible people on the planet would occur. that is one problem. certainly. the second is isis was created in a vacuum. that is how they came to be in the horrors of syria civil war representing disenfranchised sunnis who needed someone to look out for them and however brutal, there is another vacuum now as the syrian kurds rush north to try and stop turkish military forces coming in as there is general chaos and possibly in the south the same syrian kurds see russian or syrian regime forces move into areas there. we've seen the occasional attack inside of raqqah, the former de facto area that used to be called their caliphate and one

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