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i'm sorry, minister, butjust, just saying that they've got a court order doesn't really address the question of why on earth the intelligence agency would be using the most potent spywa re to secretly surveil a leading financial journalist. that was the first revelation. but then it turned out the leader, the man who is now the leader of the pasok opposition, and, according to one newspaper investigation, a whole list of other politicians, including senior members of your own government. why on earth would that kind of secret covert surveillance be happening? i think you're confusing different stories here. first of all, the government doesn't use spyware. the government, when they need to tap somebody, they do it through the telephone networks with a court order. so the use of spyware is not something that this government does. but we know that spyware was used. forgive me, but we do know that. the financial journalists that i mentioned found out quite specifically and explicitly that his phone was infected with this predator spyware.
taken measures... i'm sorry, minister, butjust, just saying that they've got a court order doesn't really address the question of why on earth the intelligence agency would be using the most potent spywa re to secretly surveil a leading financial journalist. that was the first revelation. but then it turned out the leader, the man who is now the leader of the pasok opposition, and, according to one newspaper investigation, a whole list of other politicians, including senior members of your own government. why on earth would that kind of secret covert surveillance be happening? i think you're confusing different stories here. first of all, the government doesn't use spyware. the government, when they need to tap somebody, they do it through the telephone networks with a court order. so the use of spyware is not something that this government does. but we know that
just saying that they've got a court order doesn't really address the question of why on earth the intelligence agency would be using the most potent spywa re to secretly surveil a leading financial journalist. that was the first revelation. but then it turned out the leader, the man who is now the leader of the pasok opposition, and, according to one newspaper investigation, a whole list of other politicians, including senior members of your own government. why on earth would that kind of secret covert surveillance be happening? i think you're confusing different stories here. first of all, the government doesn't use spyware. the government, when they need to tap somebody, they do it through the telephone networks with a court order. so the use of spyware is not something that this government does. but we know that spyware was used. forgive me, but we do know that. the financial journalists that i mentioned found out quite specifically and explicitly
to tap somebody, they do it through the telephone networks with a court order. so the use of spyware is not something that this government does. but we know that spyware was used. forgive me, but we do know that. the financial journalists that i mentioned found out quite specifically and explicitly that his phone was infected with this predator spyware. absolutely. and we have very vocally said that the government has no relationship whatsoever with the use or ownership of any spyware. you know, spywares are not the prerogative of governments or of the greek government, for that matter, for which reason somebody would have access to this kind of software and would like to listen illegally — because under greek law, it's illegal to wiretap anyone through the use of spyware — remains to be seen. and that's the subject of a judicial review. what surprised us, and i don't want to bring too much domestic politics into bbc hardtalk is that it was a serious felony illegal wiretapping. the previous left wing government made it a misdemeanourjust before the elections, and we had to change the law again
had a judicial philosophy that he seemed to do it here too, like justice thomas or justice scalia or justice alito. now with president trump poised to nominate what he has said he will do in the campaign, a strict originalist, to replace a very unproductive but kennedy, democrats are now sharpening their spears, just like they did back in 1987. let's go down memory lane. before reagan nominated anthony kennedy to the supreme court, he did tap somebody who was a judicial genius. he tapped a strict constitutional originalist. his name was george robert ford. hell-bent on preventing them from becoming a supreme court justice, senate democrats engaged in a disgusting smear campaign which culminated on the senate floor without white allies from senator ted kennedy. watch how low they can go. take a look. >> his america is a land in which women would be forced into back alley abortions, blacks