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raising what they pay to their employees. this strikes me as a short-term move of shifting people into their stores where they have such a big investment. >> neil: guys, put you down as a maybe on that plan. in the meantime, i want to thank kennedy, i want to thank charlie , meanwhile here is a wake up call total u.s. household debt is near it $13 trillion and our guys have the stocks to pay a lot of that down, not all of it. can't pay it all down. we're going to pay a good chunk of it after this.
>> kennedy: the economy will do even better if republicans are finally capable of cutting spending. that's where you're going to be. >> neil: they're not capable of it. >> kennedy: but that would create the most hospitable market that charlie is talking about. >> ben: nobody can cut spending. >> part of this is the president listen, it is fashionable at this network to say oh, it's all those swamp dwelling guys in congress but let's be clear about where they go. they generally go where the leader of the party takes him. the leader of the party basically said let's do the tax cut, the personal side is insane you're essentially raising taxes on middle class people in new york and new jersey. >> neil: you're just angry they're raising taxes on you and you're taking it out on the president. >> in california, i just talked to ben about this he's not so happy and the small business tax is negligible and by the way the
businesses and it's that feeling that the government is getting out of the way that i think is bolstering a lot of this movement on wall street. and now if you could have-- >> ben: feeling is a lot of it. >> kennedy: you could have the actual companion they could walk hand in hand into the sunset of glory and prosperity we would all win. >> neil: what? >> ben: feeling is a lot. the business doesn't feel it if the government is trampling on them any more. feeling is a lot of it. >> i've been told to shut up. >> neil: really. [laughter] >> not the first time i'm sure. >> neil: forget coming together. is this the new theme at thanksgiving dinner? you might want to look at the extra stuffing. >> [laughter]
>> neil: all right, it's not going to happen this year. forget the kids, is that what adults are going to be doing at the dinner table next week? a recent study out of ucla, so you know its got to be right. that politics could be ruining turkey day, politically divided families cutting thanksgiving short but get this, an average of 20 to 30 minutes in my family that would be the entire dinner they wouldn't have it. kennedy what do you think? >> kennedy: this is a great rou se. so if you can't stand your family for non-political reasons all you have to do is cut the evening short and say to yourself how great is america, whose sick of winning at the table? it's going to be done in 15 minutes. go ahead and schedule your tinde r dates now. >> neil: ben stein, i can't imagine that this still exists a year later but i guess it exists
i don't shop really. >> neil: i kind of admire that. >> charlie: it seems like it's stupid. >> neil: you walk by the outside of the stores? >> charlie: thank god there's a clothing program here at fox. >> kennedy: you and jeff bezos. >> charlie: won't you just go to another online thing and buy it from them? >> neil: amazon is lowering the prices on these items. >> charles: but they have to do something to get people in the stores and they're doing a lot of other things with grocery delivery so on certain things people will be drawn by the fact that you can save money. ultimately the wal-mart shopper is about saving money. >> neil: wal-mart and amazon at these levels right now, with the broke undown money one or the other which would you pick? >> charles: i'm in amazon still i'm not in wal-mart i missed the huge move. they bought jet.com and i didn't think it was a big deal. >> neil: don't you dodge my question. >> charles: at the very moment
>> by the way, my nephew is no one to mess with. >> neil: is that right? >> but, even my niece, we throw the football around we have a good time and try to do that but my brother-in-law did pass like judgment last year and said listen, no politics, just in case because we do have some radical trumpkins in my family. >> neil: i kind of hate that though when you can't argue or discuss things. >> kennedy: can you imagine where everyone has a really strong opinion and they're all interrupting each other and they all want to say something? >> neil: but has it gotten to the point though that we just rule out conversations? no talking politics because we might hurt each other? that's sad. >> kennedy: but people feel that way they will physically hurt each other if they disagree so that's why it's best to-- >> but why can't you have one day where you focus on not the stuff that we argue about all day here and focus on hanging
out. >> kennedy: don't want to fight >> neil: but the cavutos were debating money supply at thanksgiving. it's the most boring thanks give on record. >> kennedy: one year we had a one very station what do you want your future to be like and it's fascinating because when people talk about that you don't talk about politics and you think it's uncomfortable but when you overcome those, then you can get into politics. >> neil: let's move into funeral s in the meantime mac and cheese, ritz crackers you name it, i call it my food pyramid but it looks like wal-mart is raising its online prices, and get this the retailer thinks that this is going to help sales and guess what? it already has. i'll explain, after this. >> today on forbes on fox the senate republicans tax cut bill repeals the obamacare mandate tax and democrats say that's bad for america, but actually, it's great for america, they will explain, plus calls growing for a special council, we'll look at the times between the clintons and the russians. hillary clinton says that would be an abuse of power.
>> charles: its already begun. after eight years of being in a foxhole corporate america is back and eager to get going and they hire it and build factories but they could do more with lower taxes. >> i agree i wish it was lower taxes for small business which create most of the jobs. >> kennedy: amen. >> but you remember what trump did brilliantly and this is the best part of the trump economic plan so far is he's deregulated the economy. i spent some time with tim scott the governor from florida one night. >> neil: who? very impressive. >> governor of florida and he ran a healthcare company back in the day, and he basically explained how deregulation is a tax cut. >> sure. >> kennedy: that's also critical to healthcare because you have to get more drugs to market and more cancer treatments and other innovations that will help people live longer, better, healthier lives the fda has to get out of the way one thing the president does understand and that also un shackles the economy and
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