so because they believe america brought the terror war on its own. the far left is very consistent. it s always america s fault. therefore, anything that weakus. these people drive much of the debate about torture. the cia controversy is similar to the anti-police movement we re seeing. that was ignited by the deaths of michael brown and eric garner. over the weekend there were a few well-planned demonstrations implying that american police and prosecutors do not value the lives of black citizens. in new york city, a college professor was arrested for attacking police. there is the attack. two nypd officers were injured in the melee. the man, eric linsker, teaches at the city college of new york and has been charged with assault on a police officer and insi inciting a riot among other sing it out. mr. jackson is entitled to his opinion. and it would be interesting to see if he can defend it. but a far more serious question is, does new york city mayor bill de blasio distrust his own police department? some police officials are acc e accusiaccus accusing de blasio of that and there s a petition that police officers are demanding the mayor not attend their funeral should they be killed on the job. jesse watters will have more on this intense situation later on. some demonstrators continue to shout hands up, don t shoot. even though 15 out of the 20 eyewitnesss testifying before the grand jury in missouri apparently did not see michael brown with his hands up in a surrender position. 15 out of 20. the protesters continue to put forth that scenario. they do so because they don t like the police. and they want to see the justice system torn down. last week, russell simmons said on this program that blacks selling hard drugs like heroin, cocaine, and meth were not committing violent crimes and should not be incarcerated. of course, that opinion would lead to anarchy in the streets and first world destruction of poor neighborhoods. the anti-police coalition is an interesting mix. comprised of race hustlers like sharpton, radicals like the new black panther party, white radicals like the loopy college professor who knapsacked the policees contained three hammers and a mask. political outliers like the communist party and other tear the system down groups. their numbers aren t large, but they can cause big trouble in the name of justice. which is the last thing these people really want. like the cia, american law enforcement is there to protect the folks. and generally speaking, they do a damn good job of putting their lives on the line. the police certainly make mistakes, but they do not deserve the demonization they re receiving from these protesters and some politicians. talking points believes a backlash is coming and the folks who want to destroy america s defense apparatus will soon be marginalized. let s hope that happens soon because what we are seeing now is hazardous to the health of every american. and that s the memo. next on the rundown, later, watters seeking new york city mayor bill de blasio. back in a moment. nobody told us to expect it. intercourse that s painful due to menopausal changes it s not likely to go away. .on its own. so let s do something about it. premarin vaginal cream can help it provides estrogens to help rebuild vaginal tissue and make intercourse more comfortable. premarin vaginal cream treats vaginal changes due to menopause and moderate-to-severe painful intercourse caused by these changes. don t use it if you ve had unusual bleeding, breast or uterine cancer, blood clots, liver problems, stroke or heart attack, are allergic to any of its ingredients or think you re pregnant. side effects may include headache, pelvic pain, breast pain, vaginal bleeding and vaginitis. estrogens may increase your chances of getting cancer of the uterus, strokes, blood clots or dementia so use it for the shortest time based on goals and risks. estrogen should not be used to prevent heart disease, heart attack, stroke or dementia. ask your doctor about premarin vaginal cream. the mercedes-benz winter event is back, with the perfect vehicle that s just right for you, no matter which list you re on. 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i think when anybody asks questions about excessive force by police or something like that, you know, then all of a sudden there are people who are going to say, oh, you hate the police. i don t think that s the case at all. why? did you not hear the channelcha? people admire the police greatly. we don t want to live in a police state. that led to the revolution. i don t think any sane person thinks they re living in a when you have unarmed people shot in the streets, people are going to raise questions. raising questions are fine. saying that they want dead police officers as these demonstrators did is not fine. that s a small group. by highlighting them, it looks like you re making a political argument rather than dealing with the case. i m reporting the news, juan. mary catherine, what about the police? what about the police samuel l. jackson is speaking about? apparently mr. jackson, multimillionaire, doesn t think he s free or, you know, not free. i was a little surprised at that. yeah, i would disagree with samuel jackson s political argument in his song, possibly with the idea of him singing more songs, but what i do think is that, yes, when people some of this stuff has revealed abuses. the senate report on the cia should not be treated as if it is even handed or comprehensive because it obviously is not. but when there are abuses and when the police go to excess, those things are worthy of protests. here s the thing. you re going to have jerks at a protest. and frankly, the left leaning a protests you might have more defecating on cop cars. same things. hold on. hold on. the left gives them a pass for that. entire movements, the left, media, try to this to them. entire movements should not be discounted i m not discounting anyone. i m reporting what s happening. you said what s going on now is hazardous to the health of every american. yes, to try to manage the they re allowed to assemble and do this. sorry, mary katherine. the goal of the protesters is diminish the power of the cia and undermine the authority of the police. that s the stated goal. the leadership, juan, is al sharpton on the and a bunch of i can t say that about senator feinstein, but a bunch of other very left-wing senators like in colorado who i m trying to bring perspective. this isn t a popular uprising like vietnam or anything like that. that s not that. it s organized by these people i mention ted mentioned. it s targeted by tsh that s where it is. i m listening to you. i have such respect. there are people demonstrating in streets across the country not many. five cities. five cities, juan. no, let me tell you, there are cities all over. maybe major, five. i have to tell you, there are cities all over the country with demonstrations. with regard to the cia and the lake, don t doubt that the american people, we fund the cia greatly. we appreciate their bravery and all that. but it s breaking the law. when you break the law, when you torture people, i think defenders juan, the poll clearly says most of the people back cheney. all right? so you re what do you mean it s not true? that s not true. look at the poll you just cited. 51% would approve of it. 50% said they did or didn t 29% were against it. 20% said they don t have an opinion. it s like 50/50. people are split. that s a spin. that s a spin. it was an easy question, juan. you have to take the law it was an easy question. majority of folks sided with chain. go ahead, mary. this is largely not a politically popular movement. i m maybe a bit more libertarian than most of americans on such issues, especially on surveillance and that kind of thing. many people do think we overstep. you re right this is not a politically popular movement, but there are people who have grievances and there are abuses and excesses. as long as they re legitimate because they re bad apples doesn t mean the fact country need to be traaddressed. if people feel they re not getting good policing or fair shake from people who have power over them, they absolutely should demonstrate. you should tell us why and exactly what. many people are doing that. i m going to leave you with this. if you re going to hold up your hand and say hands up, don t shoot, when 15 eyewitnesss that s symbolism. symbolism. all right. you re right. find another symbol that s accurate, juan, and i might respect it. good debate, you guys. directly ahead, on some liberal college campuses exams are postponed because of ferguson, staten island situation have students so upset. oh. later, watters confronting the mayor of new york city. some police officers believe do not like that. you can use it to track your actual energy use. find rebates that make equipment upgrades more affordable. even develop a customized energy plan for your company. think of it as a way to take more control over your operating costs. and yet another energy saving opportunity from pg&e. find new ways to save energy and money with pg&e s business energy check-up. harvard, columbia, georgetown university students are demanding that their exams be postponed because they say they re traumatized by the situations in ferguson and staten island, new york. with that, student at harvard law school, also went to georgetown undergrad, right? that s right. now, i find this very hard to believe. i really do. is it true? is this true? it s true. the letter that they sent to the dean actually said she was denying them humanity, denying the victims humanity by not delaying exams. it s ludicrous. who sent the letter. a group of harvard students. it was a coalition of about ten of them that sent the letter. and they want to have exams postponed? that s right. because they re traumatized. they can t handle this. they re too emotional at the moment. too emotional. harvard, to they credit, they have not extended exams. columbia has. you had an exam today? i did. eight hours. i could have used a so what s wrong with you, kayleigh, you re not emotionally broken up by this? i m not saying look, it s an absurd situation. let s face it, if you re in school and there s national tragedies all over the place. are they traumatized by isis beheading the americans captured by the terrorists? were they traumatized? did you see a letter written by harvard students an that? i didn t. a cop dies every 58 hours. one week before ferguson, an officer confronted a gunman off duty and was killed. there were no protests. there was not a but it s not the same thing, though. i have to be fair. when you re a police officer, you re trained, you re armed, and you know you re in danger. when you re standing on the street selling loose cigarettes, you re not expecting what happened to him. now, is it his fault that he didn t cooperate with the arrest? yes. do we hold police to a higher standard by not by backing away from situations? garner thing never should have happened. the brown thing, brown attacked the officer i think it s clear beyond a reasonable doubt that he did. that s it. game over. if you physically attacked an officer, the officer has the right to take your life. and that s what happened. so these people with their hands up, don t shoot, that i was referring to don t know what they re talking about. let s get back to these students. harvard law is the best and brightest, supposedly the smartest people in the country get in there. are they that immature that they can t fulfill the responsibilities because of things that happened they don t like? look, they re an isolated group of people leading the protests who i think feel that they don t have the time to study for exams. that being said, there are a group of students who have latched on to that movement and are using it as a they always do that. for their laziness. national review said social justice ate my homework. that s a good motto. how radical is harvard these days? the law school, these are strivers, people who want to be wealthy. they want to take part in the american dream. they want white privilege or black privilege, whatever it may be. they want to make it. i mean, are they very far left, your peers? not at all. having been to oxford, georgetown, and university of miami and harvard, i can say without fail, hesitation, harvard is the most bipartisan campus i ve been on. the federalist society, they re a thriving movement. they may not be as loud as the ferguson protesters but they re there. they re not all loons. this is a ethnic society that s primarily moving this, right? 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i don t know. i do i believe that he is tilting toward running, but looking, working for 41 and 43, i learned something a long time ago. 1977, george h.w. bush said i m not going to make a decision about whether or not i m going to run until after the 1978 election. i want to do everything i can in 77 and 78 to lay the predicate but i m not going to run until after the november 1978 election and we see if jimmy baker gets elected attorney general of texas. he did not make the decision until after the 1978 election. george w. bush said you can go out there, put on your propeller hat, do the things you think are necessary but i m not going to make a decision until after the 1998 election and i ll let you know whether i m running for president. yeah. so when he says there s something about these bush men when they say, i m not running he didn t say i haven t made a decision, i m going to make a decision. he s got to raise money, got to get in there. now, if he runs, some conservatives are not going to like it because of immigration primarily and other things. on balance, he was a good governor in florida. eight years. education, he s very, very good on that. but he s off on immigration and that s going to hurt him. well, it s going to. be something he has to dole with. i thought it was interesting, this interview is incidentally up on the website, wplg, it s worth watching if there s a political junkie. it s sort of like trying to divine what somebody is going to think and do in the future. he does talk about how if he runs it will be about big ideas, about a positive vision, about focus on his ideas rather than on his competition in the primary and he will run in the primary like he s going to run in the general election because he makes an excellent point which i ve long agreed with that if you try and be one thing in the primary and something else in the general election, people are watching and it undermines their confidence in your authenticity. all right. let s, you know, you re a political pinhead. you love all this stuff. most people, they vote on personality. he s different from w and different from his dad. what s the biggest difference between jeb bush and george w. bush? well, jeb, both of there are a lot of similarities. it s hard to pick out differences. one difference would be that jeb bush broke away from texas and moved to florida and he did so in order to create his own image, his own life. he loves florida which is sort of odd for people who don t understand florida, and i readily admit i don t. then, he as governor was a very involved, very as you say on education, a pioneering governor. yeah. he s not as outgoing as his brother. no. he s a more cerebral guy. his brother is flamboyant. his brother has the common touch, more reserved. he speaks better spanish than his brother. heck of a lot better spanish than his brother. okay. now, the bush dynasty may work against bush because people say, look, enough of the bushes. just like hillary clinton. enough with the clintons. right. how big a factor is that going to be? i think it s going to be a substantial factor. i think there are going to be two issues, two questions he s going to have to resolve. does he have a big and positive and optimistic agenda for the future that allows him to keep the focus on what s coming rather than focus on what s behind? second of all, whether or not hillary clinton runs for president. she is the one person who largely erases the issue of do we want to go back and have another re-round of bush? the question is do you want to of course she s going to run for president. what are you doing sitting here telling me maybe look, i think it s a more complex decision than people give her credit for. i think she s likely to run in large part because they have such a thin bench and pressure is going to be enormous for her to run. i m going to tell you right now she s running. you know how i know? i ve got friends in westchester county where she lives and they have seen, they have seen with their own eyes the vans coming into her driveway with the pantsuits. they have more pantsuits, pantsuits for every state, every color, every fabric, every season. all right? you don t start getting that many pantsuits if you re not running. all right. look. i had an interesting experience last week. i wrote a column, it was critical of her i mean, she s been a lousy candidate thus far. you re a republican, of course you re of course i m going to be critical. i get this e-mail late at night from a close supporter, a guy i happen to know saying how dare you do this? we expect you to say unpleasant things about her, keep saying the things. i wrote him back and said, i m happy to have gotten your e-mail, i hope she s surrounded by people like you who say you had a great book tour, your book is terrific, you ve got a great message, you re a fantastic candidate. i said, i want her to be surrounded by people like that who don t speak the truth to her. all right. are you going to resign from fox and run bush s campaign if he goes? no. no. i ve been detailed of keeping track of you. keep track of me. all right. exactly. educate you on politics. don t beget me if she runs business. you have to get with the pantsuit thing. that s the key to it. karl rove, everybody. when we come right back, megyn kelly on a big hollywood scandal caused by hackers. and then watters confronting the mayor of new york city. moments away. i m j-a-n-e and i have copd. i m d-a-v-e and i have copd. i m k-a-t-e and i have copd, but i don t want my breathing problems to get in the way my volunteering. that s why i asked my doctor about b-r-e-o. once-daily breo ellipta helps increase airflow from the lungs for a full 24 hours. and breo helps reduce symptom flare-ups that last several days and require oral steroids, antibiotics, or hospital stay. breo is not for asthma. breo contains a type of medicine that increases risk of death in people with asthma. it is not known if this risk is increased in copd. breo won t replace rescue inhalers for sudden copd symptoms and should not be used more than once a day. breo may increase your risk of pneumonia, thrush, osteoporosis, and some eye problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking breo. ask your doctor about b-r-e-o for copd. first prescription free at mybreo.com people, the new york times, variety, hollywood reporter, other outlets. embarrassed sony executives as well. angelina jolie, leonardo dicaprio, president obama got involved. sony is demanding the media stop printing stolen e-mails. the new york times for one says it will not stop. here now is the anchor of the kelly files and immediately after this, megyn, who s an attorney. they hired david boyce, big gun attorney, represented al gore in the 2000 election, to threaten never goes over well right. the media saying all these hacks that you re getting, you better not publicize them or else. we re going after you. is there an else here? he s faking it. those letters are not worth the paper they re printed on. no legal leg to stand on whatsoever. the press has every legal right to use the material though it s stolen. though it s the product of an illegal hack. we had this same conversation in 2008 when sarah palin, when running for vice president, had her personal e-mail hacked and talked about whether news organizations could publish those materials. and i told you back then, when it was a republican who was the victim, that they could do it. i tell you now that it s liberal hollywood executives at the news organizations can do it. i told you in both circumstances, i maintain this as well, the original hacker, of course, can be prosecuted. in palin s case he was. they believe it s north korea. you know, you know, what, sony made a movie that mocks the president of north korea. the plot line is kim jong-un gets assassinated. the north korean intelligence agencies hacked in and embarrassed that s the belief. they deny it, of course. the fbi is in charge of tracking down the hackers. but it s really hard to do that because most of them are overseas and go through a million different myriad ways to get in. even if you get them, it s out there. it s out there. it s out there. you can still send them to jail because the guy who hacked o reilly.com six or seven years ago, two years, he s an akron college student. he got two years. good. he served them. good. he had to make restitution, too. the fbi did a great job, by the way, getting this guy. he was a clown. he wasn t like, you know, the north korean secret service or whatever. right. the e-mails, themselves, basically chronicle executives who send e-mails back and forth disparaging stars. but you and i do that every day, kelly. i mean, we mock people all day long. first of all, we don t employ those stars to make our movies so that s dicier. they re talking about angelina jolie and talking about dicaprio. how despicable he was. that s i guess sort of juicy for the entertainment that s why they re publishing this stuff. the most incendiary stuff they came across so far, the hackers are promising a christmas present, is their conversations about barack obama. these are two liberals who run sony who are barack obama donors. they love him. who are participating in a big fund-raising breakfast for barack obama. before this breakfast they re having an e-mail exchange saying what should i ask him? oh, why don t you ask him to donate money for movies or whether he wants to finance movies? what movies do you think he d be interested in? these two go on to ping-pong back and forth. starring black actors. it s more than immature. that s immature. bernie goldberg, your friend is coming on the kelly file tonight and his argument is going to be those are not racist statements. i think it s immaturity. i think those are racist statements. you do? i m not saying these are racist people. you can make a racist statement without being a racist in your heart. explain to me the joke was, okay, he ll finance another jango. every single one was a black movie. why is that racist? they re taking a 52-year-old man, president of the united states, leader of the free world who has had all of these rich experiences that you and i will never have and you re making fun of them. reducing him to one thing. that is his race. that his interests in the world must only have to do with his skin color. let me get that by definition is racist. when i see someone who hates an ethnic group it doesn t have to be hate. just when i see someone who hates an ethnic group, i say that s a racist. right. when i see someone who makes a foolish, immature, thoughtless jest that wasn t funny, i don t ascribe them that label. i just think it s over the top. i don t agree with you because i think it doesn t have to be fueled by hatred or anger in order for it to be racist. i m not saying they are racist people. from what i ve read, their life work doesn t suggest they are racist people. let s admit these are racist comments and deal with snem. i m saying they re immature. the hypocrisy in the media giving them a pass on these comments and not giving people like donald sterling, not that he deserves he was a lot worse. the other thing we have to ask ourselves before we go is whether this is the kind of society won t to be in where somebody gets their private communications hacked and the media feasts on that s where we are. it s not going to change. shouldn t there be a moment s pause before we jump into that life in 2014 modern day two words. christmas island. no internet. can t get internet there. that s where you should go, kelly. misfit toys? 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happening. if the tea party were out here on the streets shutting down down bridges, would you be okay with that? what do you think de blasio s biggest accomplishments have been so far? i d be hard pressed to say, actually. it s not about like the mayor doing his job, it s about us coming together with him to help him do his job. when it snowed last year, our roads were the last to be plowed. because you re in the rich neighborhood. i think he s better than the previous right wing creeps that we have. do you know who de blasio is? no. he s the mayor. oh. you never heard of him? no. do you live here? no, i live in brooklyn. oh, he s the mayor of brooklyn too. now, de blasio wants to raise taxes. families here in new york have to live within a budget, why can t the new york city government? i think we should pay more taxes. why should we pay more taxes if the city just wastes it on corruption? i de blasio is basically co-mayor with sharpton. he likes to make everything a black and white issue. i ve got nothing against sharpton. do you know who al sharpton is? not really. i envy you. he won t come on the o reilly factor, why not? because it s terrifying. i think bill is the man. i m a big fan of bill s. if you re the mayor, you should be able to sit in the hot seat. he should step up to the plate? maybe he s trying to maintain his mystique. do you think it s going to happen? i doubt he ll change his mind. i m very persuasive. bill o reilly has a question for you. okay. are you his emissary. yes, i am. do you know watters world? i m sorry. i m watters, and this is my world. okay. we ve been trying to book you on our show for weeks. and your staff hasn t been very respectful towards us. i m sure they re very respectful. actually they aren t. i m sure they are. we re just trying to get to know you better. what s the problem? i appreciate the invitation and my staff will follow up. okay. let s take some serious questions. can you help us out, mayor? i ve talked to you, my 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that we seize it. my presidency is entering the fourth quarter. interesting stuff happens in the fourth quarter. and i m looking forward to it. going into the fourth quarter, you usually get a time-out. i m now looking forward to a quiet time-out. christmas with my family. i want to wish everybody a measure wrimerry christmas, a happy hanukkah, a happy new year. i hope that all of you get time to spend with your families as well because one thing that we share is that we re away too much from them. and now, josh has given me the who s been naughty and who s been nice list and i m going to take some questions. reporter: thank you, mr. president. starting with north korea since that seems to be the biggest topic today, what does a proportional response look like to the sony hack? and did sony make the right decision in pulling the movie or does that set a dangerous precedent? let me address the second question first. sony is a corporation. it suffered significant damage. there were threats against its employees. i m sympathetic to the concerns that they faced. having said all that, yes, i think they made a mistake. in this interconnected digital world, there are going to be opportunities for hackers to engage in cyberassaults both in the private sector and the public sector. now, our first order of business is making sure that we do everything to harden sites and prevent those kind of attacks from taking place. when i came into office, i set up a cybersecurity interagency team to look at everything that we could do at the government level to prevent these kind of attacks. we ve been coordinating with the private sector but a lot more needs to be done. we re not even close to where we need to be. and one of the things in the new year that i hope congress is prepared to work with us on is strong cybersecurity laws that allow for information sharing across private sector platforms as well as the public sector so that we are incorporating best practices and preventing these attacks from happening in the first place. but even as we get better, the hackers are going to get better too. some of them are going to be state actors. some are going to be non-state actors. all of them are going to be sophisticated and many of them can do some damage. we cannot have a society in which some dictator some place can start imposing censorship here in the united states. because if somebody is able to intimidate folks out of releasing a movie, imagine what they start doing when they see a documentary that they don t like or news reports that they don t like. or even worse, imagine if producers and distributors and others start engaging in self-censorship because they don t want to offend the sensibilities of somebody s sensibilities who probably need to be offended. so that s not who we are. that s not what america is about. again, i m sympathetic that sony as a private company was worried about liabilities and this and that and the other. i wish they had spoken to me first. i would have told them do not get into a pattern in which you re intimidated by these kind of criminal attacks. imagine if instead of it being a cyberthreat, somebody had broken into their offices and destroyed a bunch of computers and stolen disks. is that what it takes for you to suddenly pull the plug on something? so we ll engage with not just the film industry but the news industry and the private sector around these issues. we already have. we ll continue to do so. i think all of us have to anticipate occasionally there are going to be breaches like this. they re going to be costly. they re going to be serious. we take them with the utmost seriousness but we can t start changing our patterns of behavior anymore than we stop going to a football game because there might be the possibility of a terrorist attack. anymore than boston didn t run its marathon this year because of the possibility that somebody might try to cause harm. let s not get into that way of doing business. reporter: would you consider taking some sort of symbolic step like watching the movie yourself? i have a long list of movies i m going to be watching. reporter: will this be one of them? i never release my full movie list. let s talk of the specifics of what we now know. the fbi announced today and we can confirm that north korea engaged in this attack. it says something interest about north korea that they decided to have the state mount an all-out assault on a movie studio because of a movie starring seth rogen and james flacco. i love seth. i love james. but the notion that that was a threat to them i think gives you some sense of the kind of regime we re talking about here. they caused a lot of damage, and we will respond. we will respond proportionately and we ll respond in a place and time and manner that we choose. it s not something that i will announce here today at a press conference. more broadly, this points to the need for us to work with the international community to start setting up some very clear rules of the road in terms of how the internet and cyber operates. right now it s sort of the wild west and part of the problem is you have weak states that can engage in these kind of attacks. you have nonstate actors that can do enormous damage. that s part of what makes this issue of cybersecurity so urgent. again, this is part of the reason why it s going to be so important for congress to work with us and get an actual bill passed that allows for the kind of information sharing we need because if we don t put in place the kind of architecture that can prevent these attacks from taking place, this is not just going to be affecting movies. this is going to be affecting our entire economy in ways that are extraordinarily significant. by the way, i hear you re moving to europe. where are you going to be? brussels. helping politico start a new publication. congratulations. i think there s no doubt that what belgium needs is a version of politico. [ laughter ] the waffles are delicious by the way. sheryl, you have been naughty. go ahead. reporter: thank you, mr. president. looking ahead to your work with congress next year, you mentioned as an area of possible compromise tax reform and so i m wondering, do you see a republican congress as presenting a better opportunity for actually getting tax reform next year? will you be putting out a new proposal? are you willing to consider both individual and corporate side of the tax ledger there. also, are you still concerned about corporate inversions? i think an all democratic congress would have provided an even better opportunity for tax reform, but i think talking to speaker boehner and leader mcconnell, that they are serious about wanting to get some things done. the tax area is one area where we can get things done. and i think in the coming weeks leading up to the state of the union, there will be some conversations at the staff levels about what principles each side are looking at. i can tell you broadly what i would like to see. i would like to see more simplicity in the system. i would like to see more fairness in the system. with respect to the corporate tax reform issue, we know that there are companies that are paying the full freight, 35%, higher than just about any other company on earth if you are paying 35%. and then there are other companies that are paying zero because they ve got better accounts or lawyers. that s not fair. there are companies parking money outside the country because of tax avoidance. we think it s important that everybody pays something if in fact they are effectively headquartered in the united states. in terms of corporate inversion, those are situations where companies are headquartered here but on paper switched their headquarters to see if they can avoid paying their fair share of taxes. i think that needs to be fixed. so fairness, everybody paying their fair share, everybody taking responsibility. i think it s going to be very important. some of those principles i heard republicans say they share. how we do that, the devil is in the details. i ll be interested in seeing what they want to move forward. i m going to make sure that we put forward specific proposals building on what we already put forward. one other element of this that s important is i ve been on this hobby horse now for six years. we ve got a lot of infrastructure we ve got to rebuild in this country if we re going to be competitive. roads, bridges, ports, airports. electrical grids. water systems. sewage systems. we are way behind. and early on we indicated that there is a way of us potentially doing corporate tax reform, lowering rates, eliminating loopholes so everybody is paying their fair share and during that transition also providing a mechanism where we can get some infrastructure built. i would like to see us work on that issue as well historically obviously infrastructure has not been a democratic or republican issue, and i would like to see if i can return to that tradition. julie pace? reporter: thank you, mr. president. i wanted to ask about cuba. what would you say to dissidents or democracy advocates inside cuba who say policy changes could give castro regime benefits without addressing the human rights or political system. when you lifted sanctions on miramar, you sought reform. if i could follow up on north korea, do you have any indication that north korea was working in conjunction with another country, perhaps china? we have no indication that north korea was working in conjunction with another country. with respect to cuba, we are glad that the cuban government has released slightly over 50 dissidents, that they re going to be allowing the international community red cross and united nations human rights agencies to operate more freely inside of cuba and monitor what is taking place. i share the concerns of dissidents there and human rights activists that this is still a regime that represses it people. as i said when i make the announcement, i don t anticipate overnight changes. what i know deep in my bones is that you have done the same thing for 50 years and nothing has changed, you should try something different if you want a different outcome. and this gives us an opportunity for a different outcome. suddenly cuba is open to the world in ways it has not been opened before. it s open to americans traveling there in ways that it hasn t been before. it s open to church groups visiting their fellow believers inside of cuba in ways they haven t been before. it offers the prospects of telecommunications and the internet being more widely available in cuba in ways that it hasn t been before. and over time, that chips away at this society. i believe offers the best prospect then of leading to greater freedom, greater self-determination on the part of the cuban people. i think it will happen in fits and starts. but through endpajment, we have a better chance of bringing about change than we would have otherwise. do you have a goal of where you see cuba being at the end of your presidency? it would be unrealistic for me to map out exactly where cuba will be. but change is going to come to cuba. it has to. they ve got an economy that doesn t work. they ve been reliant for years on subsidies from the soviet union and then on subsidies from venezuela. those can t be sustained. and the more the cuban people see what s possible, the more interested they are going to be in change. it s country specific and culturally specific. it could happen fast. it could happen slower than i would like. it s going to happen and this change in policy is going to advance that. leslie clark? reporter: i have a number of questions as well. do i have to write all these down? how many are they? reporter: as quick as i can. i want to see if you have any assurances from the cuban government that it would not revert to the same sort of sabotage as it has in the past when president presidents have made similar overtures to the government. be specifically. what do you mean? reporter: when the clinton administration made overture, they shot down planes and have this pattern of doing provocative just general provocative activity. reporter: any time the u.s. reached out a hand to them and what s your knowledge of whether fidel castro had any role in the talks and when you spoke to raul castro, did fidel castro s name come up, have you asked about him? how is he doing? people haven t seen him in a while. and given deep opposition from republicans in congress to lifting the embargo to embassy to any changes that you re doing, are you going to personally get involved in terms of talking to them about efforts they want to do to block money on a new embassy? leslie, i think i m going to cut you off here. this is taking up a lot of time. all right. so with respect to sabotage, my understanding of the history of the plane being shot down, it s not clear that was the cuban government purposely trying to undermine overtures by the clinton administration. it was a tragic circumstance that ended up collapsing talks that had begun to take place. i haven t seen an historical record that suggests they shot the plane down specifically in order to undermine overtures by the clinton government. i think it is not precedented for the president of the united states and president of cuba to make an announcement at the same time that they are moving toward normalizing relations. there hasn t been anything like this in the past. that doesn t mean that over the next two years we can t anticipate them taking certain actions that we may end up finding deeply troubling. either inside of cuba or with respect to their foreign policy. and that could put significant strains on the relationship. but that s true of a lot of countries out there where we have an embassy and the whole part of normalizing relations is that it gives us a greater opportunity to have influence with that government and not. so i would be surprised if the cuban government purposely tries to undermine what is now effectively its own policy. i wouldn t be surprised if they take at any given time actions that we think are a problem, and we will be in a position to respond to whatever actions they take the same way we do with a whole range of countries around the world when we do things they think are wrong but the point is that we ll be in a better position to actually have some influence. they may be carrots and sticks that we can then apply. the only way that fidel s name came up, i think i may have mentioned this in the interview i did, i delivered a fairly lengthy statement at the front end about how we re looking forward to a new future in the relationship between our two countries but that we are going to continue to press on issues of democracy and human rights which we think are important. and my opening remarks took about 15 minutes, which on the phone is a pretty long time. at the end of that, he said, mr. president, you re still a young man. perhaps you have the at the end of my remarks i apologized for taking such a long time, but i wanted to be sure before we engaged in the conversation that he was very clear about where i stood. he said don t worry about it, mr. president. you re still a young man and you still have a chance to break fidel s record. he once spoke seven hours straight. and then president castro proceeded to deliver his own preliminary remarks that lasted at least twice as long as mine. and then i was able to say obviously it runs in the family. that was the only discussion of fidel castro that we had. i sort of forgot all of the others. reporter: i have a few more. how personally involved are you going to get with respect to congress, we cannot unilaterally bring down the embargo. that s codified in the act. what i do think is going to happen, there s going to be a process where congress digests it. they re bipartisan supporters of our new approach. they are bipartisan detractors of this new approach. people will see how the actions we take unfold i think there will be a healthy debate inside of congress. i will weigh in. i think ultimately we need to go ahead and pull down the embargo which has been self-defeating in advancing the aims that we re interested in. i don t anticipate that happens right away. people will want to see how does this move forward before there s any serious debate about whether or not we would make major shifts in the embargo. all right. reporter: under what conditions would you meet with president castro in havana? would you have preconditions you would want to see and on the hack, i know you said you re not going to announce your response but can you say whether you are considering additional economic sanctions on north korea? can you rule out the use of military force or some kind of cyberhit of your own? i think i m going to leave it where i left it, which is we just confirmed it was north korea. we have been working a range of options. they ve been presented to me. i ll make a decision on those based on what i feel is proportional and appropriate to the nature of this crime. with respect to cuba, we re not at a stage here where me visiting cuba or president castro coming to the united states is in the cards. i don t know how this relationship will develop over the next several years. i m a fairly young man. i imagine at some point in my life i ll have an opportunity to visit cuba and enjoy interacting with the cuban people. there s nothing specific where we re trying to target some sort of visit on my part. colleen mccain nelson? reporter: you spoke earlier about 2014 being a breakthrough year and you ended a year with executive actions on cuba and immigration and climate change. you didn t make much progress this year on your legislative agenda and some republican lawmakers have said they are less inclined to work with you if you pursue executive action so aggressively. are you going to continue to pursue executive actions if that creates more road blocks for your legislative agenda or have you concluded it s not possible to break the fever in washington and the partisan gridlock here. i think there are real opportunities to get things done in congress. as i said before, i take speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell at their words that they want to get things done. i think the american people would like to see us get some things done. the question is going to be are we able to separate out those areas where we disagree and those areas where we agree. there are tough fights on areas where we disagree. if republicans seek to take healthcare away from people who just got it, they will meet stiff resistance from me. if they try to water down consumer protections that we put in place in the aftermath of the financial crisis, i will say no, and i m confident i ll be able to uphold vetoes of those types of it provisions. on increasing american exports and simplifying our tax system and rebuilding our infrastructure, my hope is that we can get some things done. i ve never been persuaded by this argument that if it weren t for the executive actions, they would have been more productive. there s no evidence of that. so i intend to continue to do what i ve been doing, which is where i see a big problem and the opportunity to help the american people, and it is within my lawful authority to provide that help, i m going to do it. and i will then side by side reach out to members of congress and reach out to republicans and say let s work together. i rather do it wou. immigration is the classic example. i was really happy when the senate passed a bipartisan comprehensive immigration bill, and i did everything i could for a year and a half to provide republicans the space to act and showed not only great patience but flexibility saying to them, look, if there are specific changes you would like to see, we re willing to compromise. we re willing to be patient. we re willing to work with you. ultimately it wasn t forthcoming. so the question is going to be, i think, if executive actions on areas like minimum wage or equal pay or having a more sensible immigration system are important to republicans and they care about those issues and the executive actions are bothering them, there s a very simple solution and that s pass bills and work with me to make sure i m willing to sign those bills. because both sides are going to have to compromise. on most issues in order for their initiatives to become law, i m going to have to signoff and that means they have to take into account the issues that i care about just as i m going have to take into account the issues that they care about. all right. i think this is going to be our last question. reporter: thanks so much. one of the first bills that mitch mcconnell said he ll send to you is one that would authorize construction of the keystone excel pipeline. i wonder if you could tell us what you would do when you receive that bill and also what you see as benefits and given the drop in oil prices recently, does that change the calculus and whether it makes sense to go ahead with that project? i don t think i ve minimized the benefits. i think i ve described the benefits. at issue in keystone is not american oil it is canadian oil that is drawn out of tar sands in canada. that oil current ly is being shipped out through rail or trucks and it would save canadian oil companies and the canadian oil industry an enormous amount of money if they could simply pipe it all of the way through the united states down to the gulf. once that oil gets to the gulf, it is then entering into the world market and it would be sold all around the world so there s no i won t say no. there s very little impact, nominal impact on u.s. gas prices, what the average american consumer cares about, by having this pipeline come through. sometimes the way this gets sold is let s get this oil and it s going to come here and the implication is that it s going to lower gas prices here in the united states. it s not. there s a global oil market. it s very good for canadian oil companies, and it s good for the canadian oil industry, but it s not going to be a huge benefit to u.s. consumers. it s not even going to be a nominal benefit to u.s. consumers. now, the construction of the pipeline itself will create probably a couple thousand jobs. those are temporary jobs until the construction actually hams. there s probably some additional jobs that can be created in the refining process down in the gulf. those aren t completely insignificant. it s just like any other project. when you consider what we could be doing if we were rebuilding roads and bridges around the country, something that congress could authorize, we could probably create hundreds of thousands of jobs or a million jobs. if that s the argument, there are a lot more direct ways to create well paying american construction jobs. and then with respect to the costs, all i ve said is i want to make sure that if in fact this project goes forward, that it s not adding to the problem of climate change, which i think is very serious and does impose serious costs on the american people. some of them long-term but significant costs nonetheless if we have more flooding, more wildfires, more drought, direct economic impacts on that and as we re rebuilding after sandy for example, we re having to consider how do we increase preparedness in how we structure infrastructure and housing and so forth along the jersey shore. that s an example of the kind of costs that are imposed and you can put a dollar figure on them. in terms of process, you have a nebraska judge determining whether or not the new path for this pipeline is appropriate. once that is resolved, the state department will have all of the information it needs to make its decision. i ve just tried to give this perspective because i think that there s been this tendency to hype this thing as some magic formula to what ails the u.s. economy and it s hard to see on paper where exactly they re getting that information from. in terms of oil prices and how it impacts the decision, i think that it won t have a significant impact except perhaps in the minds of folks when gas prices were lower maybe and less susceptible to the argument that this is the answer to lowering gas prices. it was never going to be the answer to lowering gas prices because the oil that would be piped through the keystone pipeline would go into the world market and that s what determines oil prices. in terms of congress forcing their hand on this, is this something where you say you re not going to let congress force your hand on whether to approve or disapprove this bill. we ll see what they do. we ll take that up in the new year. reporter: any new year s resolutions? april, go ahead. go ahead. reporter: thank you, mr. president. last question i guess. six years ago this month, i asked you what was the state of black america in the oval office and you said it was the best of times and the worst of times. you said it was the best of times in the sense that there has never been more opportunity for african-americans who have received a good education and the worst of times for unemployment and the lack of opportunity. ending 2014, what is the state of black america as we talk about those issues and race relations in this country? like the rest of america, black america in the the aggreg is better than when i came into office. the housing equity that s been recovered. 401 pensions that have been recovered. a lot of folks are african-american. they are better off than they were. the gap between income and wealth of white and black america persists. we have more work to do on that front. this is a legacy of a troubled racial past. it s not an excuse for black folks. they are out there trying to get an education sending their kids to college but they are starting behind often times in the race. and what s true for all americans is we should be willing to provide people a hand up and not a handout. help folks get that good early childhood education. help them graduate from high school. help them afford college. if they do, they ll be able to succeed and that s good for all of us. we ve seen some progress. the education reforms that we ve initiated are showing measurable results. we have the highest high school graduation that we ve seen in a very long time. we are seeing record numbers of young people attending college. in many states that initiated reforms you see progress in math scores and reading scores for african-american and latino students as well as the broader population. but we ve still got more work to go. now, obviously how we re thinking about race relations right now has been colored by ferguson, the garner case in new york, a growing awareness in the broader population of what many communities of color have understood for some time and that is there are specific instances at least where law enforcement doesn t feel as if it s being applied in a color blind fashion. the task force that i formed was supposed to report back to me in 90 days not with a bunch of abstract musings about race relations but concrete practical things that police departments and law enforcement agencies can begin implementing right now to rebuild trust between communities of color and the police department. and my intention is to as soon as i get those recommendations, to start implementing. some of them we ll do through executive action. some will require congressional action. some will require action on the part of states and local jurisdictions. but i actually think it s been a healthy conversation that we ve had. these are not new phenomenon. the fact that they are now surfacing in part because people are able to film what have just been in the past stories passed on along a kitchen table allows people to make their own assessments and evaluations and you re not going to solve the problem if it s not being talked about. in the meantime, we have been moving forward on criminal justice reform issues more broadly. one of the things i didn t talk about in my opening statement is the fact that last year was the first time in 40 years where we had the federal prison population go down and the crime rate go down at the same time, which indicates the degree to which it s possible to think smarter about who we re incarcerating and how long we re incarcerating and now are we dealing with nonviolent offenders and how are we dealing with drug offenses, diversion programs, drug courts. we can do a better job and save money in the process by initiating some of these reforms and i ve been pleased to see that we ve had republicans and democrats in congress who are interested in these issues as well. the one thing i will say, and this is going to be the last thing i say, is that one of the great things about this job is you get to know the american people. you meet folks from every walk of life and every region of the country and every race and every faith and what i don t think is always captured in our political debates is the vast majority of people are just trying to do the right thing. and people are basically good and have good intentions. sometimes our institutions and our systems don t work as well as they should. sometimes you ve got a police department that has gotten into bad habits over a period of time and hasn t maybe surfaced hidden biases that we all carry around. if you offer practical solutions, people want to fix these problems. it s not a situation where people feel good seeing somebody choked and dying. i think that troubles everybody. so there s an opportunity of all of us to come together and to take a practical approach to these problems. and i guess that s my general theme for the end of the year, which is we ve gone through difficult times. it is your job, press corps, to report on all of the mistakes that are made and all of the bad things that happen and the crises that look like they are popping and i understand that. but through persistent effort and faith in the american people, things get better. the economy has gotten better. our ability to generate clean energy has gotten better. we know more about how to educate our kids. we solve problems. ebola is a real crisis. you get a mistake in the first case because it s not something that s been seen before. we fix it. you have some unaccompanied children who spike at a border and it may not get fixed in the time frame of the news cycle, but it gets fixed. and part of what i hope as we reflect on the new year, this should generate some confidence. america knows how to solve problems. and when we work together, we can t be stopped. and now i m going to go on vacation. thank you, everybody. the president of the united states at a news conference a year-end news conference. he s off to hawaii tonight with his family for a little r&r. a little vacation. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i m wolf blitzer reporting from washington. the big headline, the president of the united states saying sony pictures made a mistake in canceling the release of the film the interview. a film about north korea, the north korean leader kim jong-un. i want to play the clip. here is the sound bite from the president saying sony pictures made a mistake. sony is a corporation. it suffered significant damage. there were threats against its employees. i am sympathetic to the concerns that they faced. having said all that, yes, i think they made a mistake. we cannot have a society in which some dictator some place can start imposing censorship here in the united states because if somebody is able to intimidate folks out of releasing a movie, imagine what they start doing when they see a documentary that they don t like or news reports that they don t like. or even worse, imagine if producers and distributors and others start engaging in self-censorship because they don t want to offend the sensibilities of somebody whose sensibilities probably need to be offended. the president also saying he wishes sony pictures had discussed the issue with them before they decided to pull the release of this film. he also said north korea was responsible echoing what the fbi said earlier in the day that north korea deliberately did this. he promised the u.s. would respond but he refused to say how the u.s. will respond. he said only it would be proportionate and the u.s. will respond in his words when we choose to do so. he s not going to release that information in advance. jake tapper, strong words from the president. he surprised a lot of us by going as far as he did. i thought he would be more cautious and talk about how he knew where sony was coming from as a business. he gave a sweeping statement about free speech and not giving in to threats from people like kim jong-un especially when it came to a comedy film and then he started talking about the precedent it set. what happens if they don t like documentaries? what happens if they don t like news? where does it go from there? it was very strong pro-free speech statement from the president and you re right. i m very surprised. evan perez, you have new information. you re learning right now, you re our justice reporter, about the fbi and how they came up with this decision that it was in fact north korea no doubt about that. reporter: there was no doubt, wolf. i have to tell you one thing real quick. what the president just said echoes what i m hearing from u.s. law enforcement intelligence officials. they are outraged. they understand sony did what they did but they are outraged that a dictator won censoring the american movie industry as a result of this hack, wolf. the fbi pretty quickly thought they knew where this hack was coming from and they said that they they say that there was some telltale signs despite that north korean hackers did a very good job to try to mask where this was coming from. they tried to route the attacks through several countries in asia and europe and even latin america. in the end, what the fbi found was telltale signs and lines of code, encryption cal algorithmst show where it came from matching an earlier attack from last year that was carried out against south korean banks and media companies and so this is one way they were able to very quickly this is unprecedented for them to make a determination so quickly and go public with this. the president also said that there is no indication any other countries were working together with north korea. he said he has seen nothing along those lines. this was a north korean operation. gloria borger, you know, the president almost seemed liberated, if you will, to go out and speak cannopenly about many issues. he didn t want to engage. he said when we respond it will be proportional at a time and place of our choosing. i won t raise their profile anymore than it already has been raised over a comedy satire. i can t remember the last time i saw the president so cheerful other than when we won re-election actually. he went out of his way to say i m energized and excited and this is the fourth quarter and great things will happen in the fourth quarter. a lot of interesting stuff happens in the fourth quarter, which it often does. he was clearly sending a message to the american people as we ve been talking about before he had his press conference. they may call me a lame duck, but i m going to keep quacking here. this is not over by any stretch. i think he is boyd by what happened over the last several years. what will the united states do to retaliate against north korea? no question the president is setting out an unyielding position. we ll decide how to respond and it will be on our own time and had a dismissive comment for the north korean leader. it tells but the tells you about the regime if they are upset over this movie. he had a message to the american people saying we as a country have to respond to this dismiss it, go on, go to the movie theaters, et cetera. despite that, north korea because of this hack rocketed to the top of the national discussion even in a year 2014 when we have all of these other grave international challenges. he only had brief mentions of ukraine and russia. ebola. the fight against isis. we ve got two ground wars in asia still going on. afghanistan and iraq big commitments of u.s. troops there. not a single question about those issues. and consider all of the stories and discussion we were doing on that earlier this year. he only took seven or eight questions. all from print reporters. really typical style, he gave lengthy answers. he tends to do that. something else that s interesting that i suspect a lot of republicans in congress are paying attention to is the fact that he basically issued veto threats. he said if republicans in congress bring me bills that weaken wall street reform legislation, he ll veto it. he also while not saying he was going to veto the keystone pipeline legislation that republicans in the senate said would be the first order of business, he made the case for vetoing it saying it will have only a nominal effect on u.s. gas prices. this will benefit canadian oil companies but not really have an effect on the united states. he didn t say i ll veto it but he laid out the case for doing so. let me bring in jay carney. jay, did you get the same sense that he s laying out the case to veto that keystone pipeline legislation because republicans clearly want to put it on the table very, very quickly in the new session. woflf, i know he s ambivalen about it. in many ways both sides of this argument have turned it into a much bigger issue than it factually is. keystone if it s built will not create the number of jobs that proponents claim it will. nor will rejecting it save the global environment the way some environmentalists claim it will because tar sands will be exploited regardless if the pipeline is built. i think he s been of two minds of this and it s hard to predict where he will go. it s true that some of the senators, democratic senators, who would have been most vulnerable if he vetoed it will no longer be in the senate so that may give him more political leverage. i tell you, i think gloria said earlier talking about how upbeat he was and buoyant he was. i was there as press secretary for three end of the year press conferences and this one was quite different. what was going on at the end of the year. no fiscal crisis. no international crisis. at least not yet knock on wood. he does clearly feel in the wake of the midterm election that he s been able to demonstrate that he s relevant and that he can execute and get things done and he feels good about it. let s get some reaction from a different perspective. cliff may is joining us, president of the foundation for defense of democracy. on north korea specifically, cliff, what did you think of what he said? i was glad that he said that a dictator shouldn t be imposing censorship on the united states or on the free world. i don t think it s sony s battle to fight primarily. i think it s our battle. he said that there will be a response. less so he assured north korea that it would be proportionate and that it would not be beyond that because there needs to be some deterrent. cyberwarfare is a dangerous thing. in this case it was used to shut down a movie and there were terrorist threats and cyberwarfare could shut down our entire society. we re not where we should be on cyberwarfare and there has to be a very strong response to such an attempt. this was on a company in the u.s. but it s really an attack on american freedom. in the past, we in the u.s. and in the west have not responded effectively to attempts to shutdown free expression. imagine if there had been nuclear weapons. his successor may have nuclear weapons and that was a subject not at all discussed and i think it s the most important national security threat we face today. let me get bobby into this conversation. another big issue that came up, cuba. the president pleased with what s going on in this improved u.s./cuban relationship although he played down this notion he was about to fly off to havana any time soon. he seemed to suggest it was much more likely he would return to being a private citizen than during his presidency, which is probably wise. it would be pretty bad optics for the president to go to cuba or have raul castro over to the white house. raul castro is not welcome to the grand halls of the world and major war leaders don t go to havana because everyone recognizes he is as the president said, a dictator. repressive regime. makes sense to get rid of an embargo that doesn t work. it was very interesting. the president started by invoking the cuban people rather than the cuban government. i think that was the key point. it s not the regime. it s people to people relations. he s hoping that just by allowing that to happen, the u.s. will have greater leverage, greater say in cuba s activities in the future. that s bank shot. it s better than no shot. that s a good point. if he goes to cuba, he would like to engage with the cuban people. doug brinkley, how did he do in this end of year news conference? who would have thought on midterm election day, he would sell this was a great year 2014 in america and it was a great year for him and it s all about the economy. you can almost feel how optimistic the president is in. he feels the country is moving in the right direction. dwight eisenhower with the great missile gap crisis in 1957 ended up creating nasa. i think this situation with north korea although newt gingrich calls it a war, it may be a cyberbattle with north korea, he may need to create cybersecurity agency or something. i think he would get bipartisan support. not that people want to see more government on the right, but we have to address this. i think something important and significant that we ll have to watch. i m writing on fdr. i m writing about public works projects. this is a president that is not green lighting keystone. i don t know how other ways you could tell him. you don t talk down your product and say, okay, i m going to do it. let s get a thought from dana bash. i m sure members of congress, democrats and republicans watching very closely. how is what the president said today likely to play with them? first of all, he s somebody who a lot of members of congress are looking at saying who is this guy and where has he been for the last six years? he s somebody as everyone mentioned in various ways who feels free to say what he wants and do what he wants. on what doug was just talking about, we should note that s the very first legislative battle in january in just a couple weeks. the new senate majority leader mitch mcconnell said he ll do it right out of the gate. if the president is going to use his veto pen and leaning into do that, it will probably be the first thing that we ll see. the other thing i just think that s worth noting, it may seem to our viewers to be naval gazing from reporters, he not only talk to print reporters, he only asked women for questions. he only called on female reporters. that s very telling for a white house that has gotten a lot of flak, maybe as they should have, for the women inside the white house not rising to the top and not having a seat at the table. the fact that he ended this year only calling on female reporters was no accident. let me ask jay carney, former white house press secretary, our cnn political commentator now, was that just coincidental or deliberate? what do you think? i m sure it was deliberate. i m sure it was discussed beforehand among the president s advisers. i think it was an excellent decision to make. there are a lot of superb female reporters that cover the white house every day. i think it was a fun way and smart way to end the year by calling on only female reporters. as a former print journalist even though i m on tv now, i like to see print journalist get
structure structures in our political system, as envisioned by the founders, that sometimes they re going to disadvantage democrats, but the truth of the matter is, is that if we have a strong message, if we re speaking to what the american people care about, typically you know, the popular vote and the electoral college vote will align, and i guess part of my overall message here as i leave for the holidays is that if we looked for one explanation or one silver bullet, or one easy fix for our politics, then we re probably initiative and school nutrition program is a greater threat to democracy than our government going after the press if they re issuing a story we don t like. i mean that s an issue that i think we ve got to wrestle with. and we will. people asked me how do you feel after the election? i say well, look, this is a clarifying moment. it s a useful reminder that voting counts, politics counts, what the president-elect is going to be doing is going to be very different than what i was doing, and i think people will be able to compare and contrast and make judgments about what worked for the american people, listen to some of what he said there. in early september, when i saw president putin in china, i felt that the most effective way to ensure that that didn t happen was to talk to him directly, and tell him to cut it out, and there were going to be some serious consequences if if he didn t. reporter: okay, now that warning and there will be consequences, obviously that didn t stop this process of selective leaks, of continued hacks that we know from intelligence officials still continue to this day. so obviously that warning of consequences was ineffective and the president didn t really address that aspect of it, but i think what he tried to do throughout this press conference was explain his behavior, his choices in great detail, and also defend them, and we saw a defense of how he handled the hacking initially. we saw a defense of the fbi and how they acted, defense of the timing of the release of that information, and also an extensive defense on how the u.s. has handled the situation, the absolutely wrenching situation ongoing in aleppo. listen to some of that. part of the goal here was to make sure that we did not do the work of the leakers for them by raising more and more questions about the integrity of the election right before the leck was taking place, at a time, by the way, when the president-elect himself was raising questions about the integrity of the election. reporter: so there you heard his defense of the timing, of naming russia, of the political forces involved. of course, you know, how that happened, how it all played out ultimately is the open debate that s raging right now. i mean, there has been criticism of how that happened coming not just from republicans, from democrats. so the president wanted to lay out why they felt in fact he spelled it out in those words. he said that he felt that he did what he should have done, how his administration handled it. he feels that his administration allowed the intelligence community to do their jobs, and he kind of left it at that. he also didn t want to wade too far into other, you know, really difficult issues right now like the electors, who might not vote, cast their votes for donald trump. the criticism of the fbi and coming from democrats that that may have contributed to the outcome of the election, so there are things that, you know, as expected, he didn t want to go into too much detail on but you saw him here wanting to fully take this opportunity at length to explain his decisions and once again maybe for the last time try to make the case to the american public of why he felt he was doing, you know, the best under the circumstances, and trying to protect them. jake? michelle kosinski at the white house thanks so much. the now to how the u.s. came to point fingers at russia. sources confirming an internal message sent from cia director john brennan that the fbi and u.s. intelligence, the national security director, as well, sorry the director of national intelligence as well as the director of the cia, all of them, including the fbi russia tried to undermine u.s. politics and this is important, this is significant, and that one of their motivations was to try to help donald trump win the election. joining me now cnn chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. jim, there has not been unanimity on what the motivation of russia was. the news that the fbi now agrees with cia director brennan, that seems significant. well it is. i think one point to make is that there was less disagreement than some reporting and then some gop lawmakers have been saying, speaking to multiple officials both in the intelligence agencies and in law enforceme enforcement, this is what is new today. cia director john brennan feeling the need to write the entire cia staff an internal message that said the following, there is strong consensus on the scope, nature and zpent jake noted it was key of russian hacking. let me add this caveat. you never know intent for sure, that s looking into the minds of president vladimir putin and people working for him. their analysis is there were multiple intents, one undermine the political process, sow doubts here in america about the presidential election. in addition to that weaken hillary clinton through the releases of emails and internal communications and thereby help donald trump. my understanding from speaking to multiple intelligence officials is that early on, even russia may not have judged that donald trump was going to win this election, but as he continued to improve his chances, there say perception, judgment and assessment inside the cia that they believe russia went, in effect, all-in for donald trump. again, that s their assessment with the necessary caveats that they can t know for sure but another thing here. there have been reports out there, also been charges you might say from lawmakers that the fbi and the cia are disagreeing that the cia is alone in making this assessment, that the intention may very well have been to help donald trump. in fact i m told by people on both sides of the river that, is from law enforcement and intelligence agencies that that disaxwreegreement is overblown. they find that plausible and the cia believes it has more evidence that was the the case. i ve spoken to a lot of people inside the agencies. there is enormous frustration and anger among intelligence agents and analysts and the cia, and a number of things, attacks on them, questioning of the work that they do, charges that they are politicizing the intelligence here, going in for hillary clinton, say by making this assessment. enormous frustration there. they re trying to do their job and what you re hearing in this communication from the cia director to them, listen, we re on the same page. don t hear what you say about disagreement between us and the cia. we like what you re doing, we respect what you re doing, up necessary message. let s bring in our panel now to talk about the president s press conference, we have usa today columnist keirston powers, republican pollster kristen soltis anderson, senior political analyst david gergen, as well as david axelrod. and let me start with you, keirston. the president coming out making a strong defense of himself, of his administration, of the decisions he s made and very specifically criticizing not just the russians, but things that donald trump, the president-elect, has said and done regarding russia. he also was pretty critical of the media as well, he felt the media didn t do their job covering the issue appropriately, that the media went overboard in covering things that he referred to was in the wikileaks emails basically sort of routine information that was embarrassing but shouldn t be getting the front page coverage that it was getting and basically saying we put the information out there and you guys didn t do enough with it and i actually agree with him on the coverage of the more salacious or silly stuff that wasn t relevant. i don t necessarily agree on the other side. i think it s the job of the people in power to make issues for people for the press to follow them and highlight them for being important, that s how things often get covered, and that s how people often know what s important. kristen, president obama citing a poll that suggests that 37% of republicans in the united states have a favorable impression of vladimir putin. i believe that s a higher favorable rating among republicans than president obama has, and his point being was that donald trump the president-elect has been cozying up for want of a better word, praising putin. we have become a very tribal nation so when people are listening to these poll questions they re responding from sort of partisan instincts. you ve seen not only improvements in the flafrt toward vladimir putin but wikileaks, where three years ago those numbers flipped p republicans slightly more positive toward wikileaks and a lot of this was in part aided by much of the discussion before the election about the need for this election to be taken seriously and treated as legitimate and now republicans, having won the election are feeling a little bit like well you told us we needed to accept these results. now we re being told this election was illegitimate. i think that s some of the emotional response. maybe we like vladimir putin and we like wikileaks. it s not all republicans and you ll see in some of the confirmation hearings for the secretary of state, some republican senators who are opposed to what russia is doing. some of the conflicts between existing republican senators and the new president-elect potentially coming out. at one point president obama knew about these hacks and suggested of course he did. take a listen to that. the intelligence that i ve seen gives me great confidence in their assessment that the russians carried out this hack. not much happens in russia without vladimir putin. let me go to david axelrod now and david, did anything president obama say surprise you? it seemed to me that he was very aggressively linking donald trump and the russians and i don t know that that s going to help make the case to the country, which some of whom did vote for donald trump, the president-elect that this russian hack should be taken very seriously. first of all on the previous point about the poll, i think the point he was trying to make is not that a third of the republicans are soft on putin, but the point that kristen made, which is that we have become so polarized, that even on something like putin, partisan tribal instincts kick in and you see these great shifts and what he was making the case that we shouldn t do that. i actually thought, jake, that he was trying not to be, to done thematory of donald trump, but he was making a point that trump, throughout the campaign, has or throughout this issue has minimized and dismissed this, and there s a danger in that. his overarching point it seemed to me was this was an incursion on our national sovereignty. this is not a democratic issue or a republican issue. setting aside of what the intent or motivation was, it was an alarming intrusion on our political process by vladimir putin, and that should be a source of concern to everyone, and on this point, jim sciutto mentioned earlier how dismayed the intelligence community, i assume the fbi is about the characterization of their roles in this. i thought one important part of this press conference was the president s stout defense of those people who do that work. he was talking about the fbi and he said they work hard, they save lives. it s important for the president of the united states to stand up for our institutions, and i think the president was trying very hard to do that in this press conference. david gergen let s talk about that last point. obviously the fbi just in the last 4 hours has really been under fire by former secretary of state hillary clinton, who in a room full of donors faulted james comey for the letter and her, what she perceives to be his interference in the election, costing her the election, and then john podesta, hillary clinton s campaign chairman, today in the washington post laying out in an op-ed how he thinks the fbi is really performing in a subpar manner and its behavior during the election was indefensible in john podesta s view. as david axelrod pointed out president obama a strong defender of the fbi today. he was a very strong defender of the fbi, and i think, jake, his whole press conference underscored just how dramatic a change we are having in american government. ever since the end of world war ii, when one president has succeeded another, the two presidents, the old one and new one almost always agree on the nature of the threat we face as americans, but disagree sometimes on the means of dealing with it. in this case, president obama has a completely different view of the threat we face from russia than donald trump does. he lay squarely on the russia, at the russian s feet, blamed for what s happening in aleppo we wouldn t have this slaughter were it not for the russians bringing in armaments and saving assad and the question on the election and the hacking. the russians are squarely behind that and here we ve got donald trump coming in with a completely different sense of reality in effect going we want to cozy up to the russians. vladimir putin can be our friend. he s the strong man i admire. i admire him and 37% of the american people follow along with trump and say that, too. we re in new territory here on so many different fronts, and i think it makes the trump presidency not just fascinating but it also makes it, you know, very, very, makes people feel very uneasy in washington in places like the fein and the cia, where they want to do their jobs and they fear they have a president who comes in, who is coming in, who is hostile toward them, who has a very different sense of reality and they don t know where that goes. of course, at home you might be forgiven for wondering if russia did all of this as the u.s. intelligence agencies and president obama allege russian officials did. what is the united states going to do about it? president obama did briefly address that. take a listen. i told russia to stop it, and indicated there will be consequences when they do it. our goal continues to be to send a clear message to russia or others not to do this stuff because we can do this stuff to you. clarissa ward is live in moscow. president obama saying there will be consequences for russia s actions. has moscow reacted to that threat yet and do they worry at all, given the fact that they are so overjoyed, according to your reporting and others, with the election of donald trump? reporter: well there s been no official response yet, and i wouldn t hold your breath in terms of any major shift in the russian party line which has been this is ludicrous, this is nonsense, prove it or move on. it s indecent, was the word the kremlin spokesperson used today to describe these constant accusations but i think you also heard president obama during that press conference really illuminating the two main reasons that it is so difficult to respond to russia and to respond to president putin in particular. the first one being that naming and shaming don t work. naming russia doesn t work because russia just denies it, whether it s hacking, whether it s when the little green men first appeared in crimea, you might remember president putin initially denied there was anything going on there. shaming we ve seen clearly doesn t work as in aleppo particularly, in that example. so there s a sense that you have a tough situation on your hands as a u.s. president, when you re trying to respond to something like this, because you can t name, you can t shame and the second difficulty becomes that because russia is engaging in what is essentially hybrid warfare, you can t really respond in a conventional way and you certainly can t respond in a public way, and unlike president vladimir putin, who doesn t really have to answer to his voters, i think the u.s. president does feel some pressure from the american people to answer to them to explain what is being done to punish russia or to retaliate or ensure something like this never happens again, and what president obama was essentially saying there is you can t really do that in this type of situation. so he then says i can t illuminate for you, i can t tell you exactly how i m going to respond and i m sure that s bound to leave some people feeling was that a weak answer, is it a copout? why won t he name president putin directly and say exactly what s going to be done in terms of retaliation. it struck me it illustrates some of the ways in which it is so difficult to respond to the unique set of threats that russia and president putin present to the u.s. jake? clarissclarissa, let me ask h your senior international correspondent hat, somebody who has covered what s going on in syria, from the front lines, president obama said he feels responsible every time he sees images from syria, whether it s children being killed by sniper fire or anyone being slaughtered but that ultimately, he said i understand the impulse to try to do something, but then ultimately when it came to a decision and finding a decision on what to do about syria and the civil war, finding a solution that was sustainable and realistic and good for the united states, that he ended up where he ended up and he doesn t know that it s successful but he doesn t know that he would arrive at a different decision, having covered what s going on in syria, what was your response when you heard him say that? i think my response was it s clear that president obama, that this does weigh on him heavily. he has said this a number of times, that it keeps him up at night, that he does feel some sort of responsibility. i think maybe privately he might acknowledge that there was a window at some point where the u.s. probably could have done more, where the u.s. potentially could have saved more lives, but what we ve seen the president do over and over again is try to present syria as a situation where there were only two options open to the u.s. do a little bit of not that much, which is what the u.s. ultimately went for, or go full scale boots on the ground, hundreds of thousands of troops invasion. personally, from what i have seen on the ground, from what i have heard from allies who were supporting the rebels, i do believe there was a middle ground option, although i do not think anyone would argue that there have ever been any easy answers in syria, but certainly we ve seen president obama repeatedly try to present this as it was a choice between what we did or a full scale invasion and i still think i did the right thing by doing what we did. obviously he s interested in preserving his legacy but i think you heard there as he talked about the ways in which he s haunted by quha is happening in syria he is aware history may not be so kind t may be a stain on his legacy. david axelrod, there are no easy answers about syria, but do you accept that president obama largely tries to present this as the two choices, either not really do much of anything, which is what s going on right now, or full scale invasion, and he kind of leaves out the fact that there were other options, including more fully arming syrian moderate rebels, creating a no fly zone, trying more emphatically to get arab nation troops on the ground there. what is your insight? first of all just knowing him as i do, when he says he anguishes over this, i know that to be true. i don t think anything influences him more than children. he said this is the first time i cried in the oval office, and whenever a child is in distress or being wronged, he s also someone who tend to ask the question then what? the question that wasn t asked when the invasion of iraq took place, so you heard him articulate it here. i don t think he was particularly defensive today. he was laying out his reasoning and history will judge whether it was right or wrong. his reasoning this would have sucked us into a conflict that would have grown and would have enveloped us in the way the past conflict did and the country could not afford that, couldn t stand that. whether he would disagree i m sure there was a viable middle ground and that again will be debated by history but i don t think anyone should conclude that he was looking for a way not to solve this problem i think he desperately wanted to find a seclusion. you talk to people around the white house this is something that haunts them. david gergen, it does seem as though presidents and historians judge themselves harshly when it comes to inaction in situations such as this, i m thinking about president bill clinton and rwanda. the public doesn t really have much interest getting involved in foreign wars or better or worse, often for worse when it comes to innocent lives being slaughtered. that s a very good point, jake. it s certainly true that george w. bush will be remembered far more for going into iraq than president obama remembered for staying out of syria. the syrian situation became a lot more complicated when there was a dramatic turning point when the russians got in. that made it a lot harder to look at any middle ground, and this thing has gone south ever since that happened. the russians have been blocking actions of the u.n. you would think by this time the u.n. would have teams in there to save these poor civilians and when you have the russian blocking thing you can t get anywhere. i just think that s why donald trump represents 180-degree turn in how we think about the russians, how to respond to them and how to move ahead in the world. kristen, what tuning about president obama s response when it came to talking about aleppo? he said i cannot claim that my strategy has been successful. i appreciate that president obama is anguished as we are when we see the horrific footage and photos. anguish doesn t save the children of alep poe. there have been folks all along before russia got involved that have been saying we need to arm moderate rebels there, because now you have situations where you have cities that were first taken by isis, liberated by assad and liberated from isis, because the one good potential side was never fully supported by the u.s. so a feckless half measure led us to where we are and created a vacuum where russia was able to step in and take stronger measures. president-elect donald trump sounds less interested in getting involved in syria and iraq than president obama was. i also think to a certain extent we don t know what would have happened if we armed the rebels. now the people can say if we just would have armed the rebels all of these great things would have happened. it could have easily gone badly. we ve armed rebels in the past and it s gone badly. we didn t know who the rebels were so we could be giving arms to potentially isis actually. the president did a painstaking step by step going through all of the different things he had to think through making this decision and it weighs heavily on him and i think he was in a really tough decision in making this call, and in a way we ll never really know whether it would have made a difference or not. kristen, kirsten, david, david, thank you so much. our breaking news coverage. congressman sean duffy, republican of wisconsin, when we come back will weigh in on president obama s final news conference of the year. stay with us. don t stare at me. see me. see me. see me to know that psoriasis is just something that i have. i m not contagious. see me to know that. .i won t stop 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if you remember in the middle of october trmp trrp was saying this election was going to be rigged. i ve come on cnn the election s not going to be requirigged. fair and free. president obama said to donald trump stop whining, mag the case to the american people. never did he say russia was involved in this election and now after the election the president s come out and we see leaks from the intelligence department, media reports have come out as well about russian involvement. the problem that we have is, we haven t seen any reports yet. the intelligence community hasn t come to the hill and briefed deb nunez, nor senator ron johnson, chairman of homeland security in the senate so we have great reservation how this played out and i think a key point is, one, if russia was involved, russia s hacking, i want to know that. i think the american people deserve to know that but the truth is, i agree with barack obama. we had a free and fair election, all votes that were cast were counted and the dnc hack or the hack in to clinton clintonhilla email through john podesta, nobody cared about the attacks. this didn t drive the opinion. they looked at the economy, security and strong leadership. they didn t care that the dnc was involved helping hillary clinton over bernie sanders or some of the internal scandals and strive inside the hillary clinton campaign that came out through the podesta emails. those were nonfactors so the hack didn t impact the outcome but that they were trying, we should actually know about that and i support any investigation to find out what involvement they are trying to have. one other point, jake, russia should be pretty good at hacking and if we re going to have some influence, try to have some real influence on the election. they were miserable failures if they just did the dnc and podesta. you might be conflating the idea of hacking into voting machines to change vote counts. that s one of the things that i think was being debated before the election, whether there would be an attempt to do that and that obviously did not happen and i think that s what president obama talked about before the election in terms of go out and make your case, but then in terms of what effect did the election, i mean i guess we don t know. hillary clinton could have gone to wisconsin after the convention, your home state and the kremlin didn t tell her not to do that. there s any number of factors that could have played a role, we re talking about 80,000 votes in three states and hillary clinton would be president-elect right now, so the idea that maybe this played a role, we ll never know but maybe it did. surely you would want to know what russia did. sounds like that s what you re saying, that congress needs to get to the bottom of it. i totally agree with that but i do think sometimes i think the media can conflate the two as well and say russia hacked and then therefore had an influgs on the election. i can speak for my part of the state of wisconsin, and it had no bearing on the decision that the people made on who they were going to vote for. it was embarrassing stuff but not really things that drove the electorate one way or the other, in my opinion, from the voters that i saw, and again going back to president obama s statements at the beginning in the middle of october, you know, if there was hacks coming in from russia, he should have talked about that with donald trump and said you know what? there is an issue here. this election could be rigged not by the voting machines but because of russian influence and we should have had a whole vetting of that in october but if not why won t the intelligence community come to the hill and vet members of congress? why are we getting this information through leaks instead of in a secure setting on the hill? that s a head scratcher for a lot of us in congress. we look forward to them briefing you and open hearings as well. congressman duffy thanks so much, appreciate your time thanks, jake. hillary clinton s campaign manager says the fbi s handling of the russian hacking shows something is deeply broken at the agency. does the nation s top law enforcement official agree? i ll ask attorney general loretta lynch next. y red tag sa. this thing is a beast. steel or aluminum? steel. why? science. it s gonna hold up over aluminum, big time. you can get special holiday pricing and when you find your red tag, you get thousands more cash back. that s two deals in one. two deals sound better than one. that s a for-sure thing for me. during the red tag sales event, get two deals in one. find your tag for an average total value over ninety-six hundred dollars on chevy silverado all stars. find new roads at your local chevy dealer. what makesheart healthysalad the becalifornia walnuts.r? the best simple veggie dish ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple dinner ever? heart healthy california walnuts. great tasting, heart healthy california walnuts. so simple. get the recipes at walnuts.org. signer attack on u.s. election systems, blames a long time grudge held by russian president vladimir putin. john podesta also took some time and blame for the sprawling hack that ensnared her candidacy. he faulted failures at the fbi and podesta called out fbi director james comey. now the fbi however is pushing back. evan perez joins me now. evan, you ve been reporting on fbi warnings of attempted hacks since the summer. how do you recall officials describing their response? jake, i think what s happening right now is members of the clinton campaign are trying to explain to their supporters how they lost this election and hillary clinton met with some of our donors and she described it this way. take a listen. we have to recognize that, as the latest reports made clear, vladimir putin himself directed the covert cyber attacks against our electoral system, against our democracy, apparently because he has a personal beef against mimi. against me. hillary clinton s campaign manager john podesta wrote an op-ed in the washington post in addition to the fact that the fbi director sent these letters just before the election that talked about the finding of new emails, he also said that the fbi did not work hard enough to investigate the dnc hacks, certainly not as hard as they did to pursue the email investigation. they left voice mails with an i.t. staffer. jake, we ve been reporting on this since the summer and our reporting scholes the fbi one official told me they called the dnc 11 times they reached out to the dnc, they reached out to the dnc s general counsel s office, they went so far as to invite the dnc to an exercise to a briefing where they could get an idea of how these things are done. the dnc declined. so the fbi did not do everything perfectly here but there was a little bit morrow bust response than podesta makes it out to be. some spinning coming from the dnc why this wasn t their fault. owe des ta suggested the fbi should have investigated the hacks by the russians with the same intensity and manpower that it used to investigate hillary clinton s private email server. is that a fair charge? are the cases too different to compare? they re very different. one case we re talking about the clinton and her staff being the targets of an investigation, of a criminal investigation, and then the other the dnc, they were victims of a crime. you could only go so far to encourage a victim to cooperate. if they decline there s not much more they can do. they didn t call the security company that she should have done and look at it from the point of view of the dnc, they don t necessarily want the fbi in their business. we can understand perhaps why this went this way. interesting, thank you so much. attorney general loretta lynch oversees the entire justice department and this includes of course the fbi. earlier today i sat down with her exclusively and i asked her to respond to what poe des spod said in his op-ed in his case against the fbi. he said he s surprised to read in the new york times when the fbi discovered the russian attack in september of 2015 it failed to even send a single agent to warn senior dnc officials. instead messages were left with the dnc i.t. help desk. is that an accurate description of the outreach to the fbi did to the dnc and if so, is that sufficient? so as we ve talked about earlier this year, the investigation into the hacks of the dnc and the d triple c is an ongoing investigation, an active investigation so i m not able to comment on the specifics of how people were contacted but i can say that the fbi has worked closely with those organizations, both to discuss what we ve learned about the hacks to gather information about them so that we can continue this investigation. whether or not you can get into specifics, is it true that there was this level of calling the dnc that doesn t sound particularly competent or doesn t sound like it had the urgency that one would think? is that basic description that podesta makes, is it accurate? i can tell you this investigation was taken seriously from the beginning. this is an incredibly serious issue. i can t comment on mr. podesta s sources or where he gets his information or why he has that view. what i can say is that he s not involved in the ongoing investigation so he wouldn t be privy to everything that would have been done or said to that. but as i said, he s entitled to his opinion, but what i m what he s not entitled to is facts. i wonder if his facts are accurate. he finds it downright infewer yaiting nearly the exact same time no one could bother to drive ten minutes from the agency. he is suggesting without question that hillary clintonese email server got more attention from the justice department and the fbi than this hack investigation by russia, which i think it s fair to say seems fairly serious. well that s an ongoing investigation so i would say it s been taken very seriously. did the clinton email investigation get more attention than the hacks? you can t characterize it and i don t think that it is going to be helpful to try and draw equivalencies to any investigation with others to say and therefore it means that one was more or less important. because as i said, one is resolved right now. one is finished and one is very active and very ongoing, so there you see a great deal of activity still continuing. i know you can t comment on the active investigation but let me just put it this way. john podesta is out there trashing the fbi. and he s saying that the investigation into the hacks of the dnc was substandard. that s clearly what he s saying. do you agree with that characterization? i don t. i don t. first of all, the investigation isn t even over, so i think it s impossible to characterize it in any one way or the other. again, i know where mr. podesta is on taking information. said the new york times, a big long new york times story which i m sure you read. i know also because of his involvement with the campaign he ll have a certain interest with this and a certain view of that, and so i again i allow him his opinion. everyone has a great deal of respect for him so i allow him that opinion but i disagree with that if that is the characterization he s trying to make. i think you ve got to look at every investigation separately. you ve got to look at every case separately, and you ve got to allow for the fact that the way in which someone may be contacted isn t indicative of the full relationship that they developed or the response that they may have gotten initially from that organization as well. and you can see my entire interview with outgoing attorney general loretta lynch this sunday. i speak exclusively with former republican presidential nominee senator john mccain. see both on state of the union at 9:00 a.m. eastern right here on cnn. coming up, an american hero displaying bravery. you may have never heard his name but you will hear his story next. 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greatest represented democracy in human history and that s us and happy halloween. and that s hardball for now. all in with chris hayes starts right now. tonight on all in why in the world the fbi would decide to jump into an election with no evidence of any wrongdoing with just days to go. fbi director james comey under fire. ten days to go? i think it s disgraceful. criticism coming from across the political spectrum. i think this is probably not the right thing for comey to do. but is the fbi decision actually impacting voters? we ll breakdown the state of the race with over 23 million votes already cast. jew usa!rom lock her up to jew sa! if in a donald trump close to the election. a second source later confirmed that same story to the huffington post. now, this all comes as comey faces growing backlash for his decision three days ago to announce the bureau had discovered a new trove of e-mails belonging to top clinton aide huma abedin discovered during an investigation of abedin s estranged husband, anthony weiner, for allegedly sending elicit texting to an underage girl. we still have no idea what s in those new e-mails and we have no idea if they have anything to do with the original investigation of potential classified information on hillary clinton s private e-mail server. the fbi has now began to review abedin s e-mails but it remains unclear if they are finished before election day. what we do know about the e-mails and the decisions to make them public 11 days before the election has come largely by leaked to the press. comey explains his thinking and acknowledges potential consequences. given that we do not know the significance of this newly discovered collection of e-mails, i don t want to create a misleading but i wanted you to hear directly from me about it. anonymous sources said he had two main reasons, a sense of obligation to lawmakers and testified this summer and concern that word of the new discovery would be leaked to the media and be reported as a cover-up. the clinton probe has been the subject of an internal feud at the fbi. some investigators pushing for a more aggressive approach. it s been widely reported that in disclosing the new e-mails, comey acted against the guidance of his boss, loretta lynch, and against department policy. earlier today, clinton addressed that issue in cleveland, ohio. i m sure a lot of you may be asking what this new e-mail story is about and why in the host janine piero. i think it s disgraceful. i m outraged because it s a violation of department justice policies and procedures, whatever. it was probably inconsistent with protocol so in that sense you have to question the decision. the protocols are put in place for a reason and ensures more consistent decision making and in that sense you have to question this decision. comey s actions violate not only long-standing justice department policy, the directive of a person that he works under, the attorney general. but even more important, the most fundamental rules of fairness and impartiality. even some of the gop s most famous flame throw ers have bee critical. joe walsh said, look, i think comey should have said prosecute her back in july but what he just did 11 days before the election is wrong and unfair to hillary. and then a member of the outspoken freedom caucus in the case of the a post-election leadership coup. i actually agree. i think this was probably not the right thing for comey to do, but this whole case i think they ve mishandled. i m joined by sheldon whitehouse. he s a former judiciary committee. basically, this would leak, so instead of the director of the fbi writing a letter, you would have reports popping up from unnamed official sources saying we found a bunch of e-mails and it looked like a cover-up so he had to do something. what do you think. if the fbi is not a safe place for classified information or confidential investigative information to go, that s a problem that he needs to address in a very, very serious way. there s a very important public right at stake behind all of this, which is that prosecutors and investigative agencies, like the fbi, get incredible power to look through our personal lives, to look through our papers, to look through our e-mails and they get that power at the price that they are not allowed to disclose it unless they are bringing charges. when i was the attorney general of my state with broad criminal jurisdiction, when i was the united states attorney, we had a very clear rule. any derogatory information that we developed in an investigation had to be listed in the charging document, in the indictment or in the criminal information or else we didn t talk about it. and if there were no charges, then we would never divulge derogatory investigative information, least of all opinion about the suspect who had never been charged. so director comey broke that rule right off the bat with his first press conference. the second bright red flag is that you don t engage with the legislature. he had no obligation to congress to clarify anything. once a prosecutor goes down the rat hole of trying to make sure that congress thinks that what he s doing is fair, there s no going back. and congress is perfectly able to manipulate that by denying its approval, by false criticism and so comey is caught in a terrible trap now of his own making and it s stunning to people who are prosecutors if someone has experienced and honorable as him would fall into this trap. it s fascinating to hear that from a member of the article 1 branch, u.s. senator, to say that this idea of sort of bending the congress or being worried that he was misleading the congress, you don t think that s a legitimate concern in this case? that s totally not a legitimate concern. of all of the people that investigators involved in a criminal investigation should be concerned about, they have no obligation to congress. look, they have an obligation to the integrity of their investigation. and the integrity of their investigation includes keeping information confidential and within the investigation until it s charged. you don t get to be a smearer at large with derogatory information and that s what that rule is designed to protect against and that s the trap that director comey fell into and it s astonishing. what s so insane to me and i ve got to give kudos to the team that reported this paul manafort inquiry, but it s the same problem there. this stuff should not be leaking. we re journalists. but from an ethical standpoint what was interesting, after the comey letter, you have three straight news days of articles with nothing but warring factions of the fbi leaking info without an investigation anonymously and prosecuting this in the court of the public opinion and shredding any presumption of innocence that might have existed. this is a terrible week for the fbi. i have never seen the agency with such indiscipline, with such disregard for these basic prosecutorial principles and ultimately when the dust settles, whether it s donald trump or hillary clinton, the institution that s going to suffer the most will be the federal bureau of investigation for having broken these very, very basic principles of fairness and of prosecutorial conduct. senator sheldon whitehouse, strong words. thank you for taking the time tonight. appreciate it. i m joined by jennifer granholm and richard painter, chief ethics white house lawyer under george w. bush. and mr. painter, let me start with you. i read your op-ed. it was somewhat surprising to me but there seems to be a collective gasp happening after what we ve seen played out in the last three or four days. well, absolutely. the fbi s job is to investigate, not to play politics and the fbi certainly doesn t have an obligation to report to congress but should not be reporting to congress. and the members of the house oversight committee have no business pressuring the fbi to deliver to them information on their political enemies. in this case, hillary clinton. now, in this situation, it appears that the fbi did not have any derogatory information about secretary clinton because they hadn t even gotten a warrant to look at the laptop. so they didn t even know what was in there and yet they are firing this letter up to the hill telling the members of congress that they have all these e-mails. that was inappropriate and, not only that, a violation of the hatch act. the only use of that letter only conceivable use is political. and that s exactly what was done with it and it went up on the internet and then they passed the torch to donald trump and this is a tragedy for the fbi. i am i want to ask you a question, jennifer, in a second. but let me just follow up on that. the hatch act is the federal statute that guides essentially that bars political activity while on the federal dollar. it creates bright lines between essentially civil service activity and political activity. it s a very important part of the civil service architecture of the country. you re accusing comey of violating that. that s a very serious thing to say. well, it s he did violate it. the members of congress, they are not subject to the hatch act. right. there s the president. but the president can t order the fbi or pressure the fbi to investigate his political enemies. neither can members of congress. and that s what s been going on here and we ve had it going on for a year and the fbi s conducted its investigation. they closed the investigation and, by the way, they did not reopen the investigation. i don t know where that came from. but once this letter was sent, it s been blown out of proportion in the media. it s being used for politics and the hatch act prohibits the use of official position to influence an election and i can t imagine a worst violation of the hatch act than the fbi getting involved in partisan politics in trying to influence elections. jennifer, the clinton campaign has been very aggressive on this. you know, they ve organized several phone calls, they ve been public in their frustration and condemnation of james comey. they ve accused him in the wake of the report of him keeping the fbi out of that letter about russia of a double standard, that he was careful about that, not here. is the clinton campaign taking a sledgehammer to an important american institution in precisely they ve attacked donald trump of doing? it s not just the clinton campaign doing it. you have 50 attorney generals who have signed a letter, bipartisan investigation officials, people who are not affiliated with either camp who have long spent their careers as professional investigators or prosecutors signing on saying this as mr. painter has said this is unprecedented. i do think, chris, the double standard issue is a really important one. tonight, you ve got this allegation, this acknowledgement that the fbi has opened an inquiry into paul manafort and his ties to russia and about a month ago there was another report by yahoo that the fbi and intelligence officials were investigating another official tied to the trump campaign named carter page and who was supposed to have ties to russia. those things are really explosive and if the fbi if comey came out and sent a letter to congress saying, yes, i m investigating the fbi for this, there should be there would be incredible outrage. but you don t hear any of that happening. let me stop you right there. the only way we have it is someone leaking it which is improper. that is definitely true. my point is, you don t have the director of the fbi coming out and confirming that. and he is the face of the fbi, which is why this is such a pickle and which is why only he, now that he s gone through this door, he needs to step through and tell us what he has. i know that it may be you know, we don t know how big the universe is, we don t know if it s just e-mails that huma sent saying print this or something like that, your car s outside. we have no idea what they are. but if it is an innocuous as i know the clinton campaign believes it to be, then he needs he has a duty to let the citizens know that there s nothing here, if he can. this entire episode is a reminder of what a thin line it is between the fbi independent and fbi rogue and for much of his life it was in the latter category. that s something to keep in mind. jennifer granholm, richard painter, thank you so much. you bet. still to come, the new unbelievable pro trump ad from white nationalists. that s after this break. you work at ge? yeah, i do. you guys are working on some pretty big stuff over there, right? like a new language for crazy-big, world-changing machines. well, not me specifically. i work on the industrial side. so i build the world-changing machines. i get it. you can t talk because it s super high-level. no, i actually do build the machines. blink if what you re doing involves 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[ crowd chanting jew sa ]. it will be a very, very high priority. that man has been identified as a 51-year-old and he says that s the way i say usa adding, i m around mexican people all the time. i speak spanish. that s just the way i say it. not making it up. seeing as he ended his rant by telling reporters, we re worried about the jews, okay? trump campaign manager kellyanne conway described his conduct as deplorable. we have seen a lot of anti-semites and racists and misogynists who support the trump candidacy. would you call that deplorable? it does not reflect our campaign or candidate. i have to push back on the adjectives that you ve described. these are usa-loving americans. absolutely. who want the country to be safe and prosperous again. the vast majority are not those who chant jew sa but william johnson leaves a quote, the white race is dying out and attacked evan mcmullin who is saying he s going to defeat trump. evan has two mommies. he s over 40 years old, not married and doesn t even have a girlfriend. i believe he s a closet homosexual. don t vote for evan mcmullin. vote for donald trump. in new mexico yesterday, trump falsely claimed hillary advocates, quote, open borders and certainly suggested she would allow 650 million people to, quote, pour in, more than twice the current population, in just one week. he also cited a baseless claim sayi saying immigrants will murder americans. they have warned that hillary s radical plan would result in the loss think of this of thousands of innocent american lives and an uncontrollable flood of illegal immigrants across the border taking jobs and crime would be rampant. joining me now is jason. i guess it s one of these things where you have this conversation, you point to all of these various people and say, look, it s really a thing that these people are supporting trump and the trump folks say and i understand why they do, you re painting with a broad brush and the overwhelming majority are not like that. people don t stand at the rally of a major party nominee chanting jew sa. right. right. donald trump was a racist and gets support by racists. this has not been a question for a long time. he started this campaign by saying there are rapist mexicans and good mexicans. and this is a problem. and it s not because we haven t had racist presidents before. we definitely have throughout american history. i would say that would be the norm, actually. exactly. he s not going to be the first. but he s mainstreamed it. even the turn alt-right. now we have hipster neo-nazis and that s considered fine and sexy. it s dangerous no matter if he loses next week. part of this i think is the atmosphere that is driven by the campaign, right? so there s not right. campaigns are not responsible for everything their supporters do. that s just a blanket, important rule. but they do not they have been slow to condemn certain things and here s wayne alan root at a trump rally talking about huma abedin and hillary clinton. take a listen. i have a name for the feature tv movie called driving miss hillary and the ending, if we all get our wish, is like thelma & louise. he s saying we all get our wish that these other two people will die. right. that is sort of par for the course rhetoric. yeah. and it s become normal. and i don t know, maybe that s his new trump tv show. i don t know. but what we ve seen here is that whether it s bill burr, a candidate in north carolina, donald trump, the idea of causing direct violence against your political opponent is a degradation of political discourse. the suggestion that i will jail my political opponent is a degradation of political discourse. the reason we have peaceful transfer of power, people don t worry if they lose they are going to end up in a ghoul la. it makes everyone much more concerned. i would not be surprised if we see violence after this election next week and that s not something anyone wants to see. i m praying that s not the case. richard burr in a neck-and-neck battle audio of him addressing it and i want to play that audio making a joke about hillary clinton in a gun magazine. take a listen. nothing made me feel any better than i walked into a gun shop i think yesterday in there was a copy of rifleman on the counter and it s got a picture of hillary clinton on the front of it. i was a little bit shocked at that. it doesn t have a bulls-eye on it. and he says, look, that was a joke and has since apologized. but there is you know, you cannot go to any event anymore where the range about the feeling of hillary clinton is either she should be in a jail or she should be dead. right. and here s what i see is ultimately the problem with this. kellyanne can say the trump campaign is trying to distance itself from it. this has been the problem in the republican party for years. this is what reince priebus tried to fix saying we need to open up the party but instead they have gone full and the long-term consequences of this, if you have sitting senators who can make jokes about killing someone who may become president, what that does is embolden less stable, less invested people in this country to attack, to shoot, to possibly try to capture a voting location and that s a problem. trump is responsible for it. let s all remember, it didn t start with trump. jesse helms joked about the president being assassinated if he came to north carolina back when bill clinton was president. thanks for joining me. thank you, chris. still ahead, the state of the race eight days out, coming up. and the seagulls they ll be smilin and the rocks on the san it s so peaceful up here. yeah. 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[whistle] [dance music playing] [record scratch] announcer: don t let salmonella get funky with your chicken. on average, one in 6 americans will get a foodborne illness this year. you can t see these microbes, but they might be there. so, learn the right temperature to cook each type of meat. keep your family safe at foodsafety.gov. legality of the actions of north carolina elected republican officials has once again been called into question, this time in a lawsuit alleging the state board of elections in three individual county election boards are purging voter roles in a manner disproportionately targeted against african-americans. naacp claims, canceling the voter registrations of thousands of north carolina voters has been targeted and the lawsuit offers details on the disproportionate impact on black voters. for example, in beaufort county, black voters make up 65% of the challenges even though the county is 26% african-american. there s an emergency hearing on that lawsuit on wednesday in u.s. district court in winston, salem. all of this may sound very familiar. it was this past july that a federal appeals court struck down a north carolina voter i.d. law saying its provisions deliberately targeted african-americans with almost surgical precision in an effort to depress and suppress black turnout at the polls. it was only a week ago that an analysis showed that the reduction in early voting sites in north carolina, again, pushed through by the state s republican governor, reduced the number of early votes. for example, guilford county, cut early voting locations from 16 to just one. it saw in-person voting decline roughly 85%. the picture is one of republican-controlled state and local government making it harder for african-americans to vote sometimes targeting the means of voting that they know will be disproportionately used by black voters. nationwide, there have now been 23 million early votes already cast in this election, nearly 12 million in battleground states and that early voting acts as a hedge against wild fluctuations in the final days. what effect is james comey s october surprise having on those polls? we ll talk about that, next. even a rodent ride-along. 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[music] [police siren] jess: how many did you have? shawn: i should be fine. jess: you should be? officer: sir, go ahead and step out of the vehicle for me. shawn: yes, sir. bud: see ya, buddy. today, shawn s got a hearing, we ll see how it goes. good luck! so, it turns out buzzed driving and drunk driving, they re the same thing and it costs around $10,000. so not worth it. so let s start with this idea of how much this is going to affect the race. which a lot of people are thinking about. what s your sort of general working theory right now? you know, we ve looked back at october quote/unquote october surprises in the past and some of them move the polls and some don t and if they move the polls, it s one or two points and so it s possible we get slight movement but no movement works perfectly well. christina, one of the reason i want to have you here, there s a way the political sicientists look at these polls and then the cable news does. right. the political science idea, the fundamentals are the fundenls and most of this stuff is noise. uh-huh. is that your general working theory? if you have asked me any other political year, i would say yes. the only caveat to this is that this year and this particular candidate, djt, i try not to say his name, he s so peculiar and unique because he s a celebrity, he s dominated the media, because essentially created a party within a party. yep. and because he has no record in public office at all, which is weird. not a drop. not a drop. so some of our theories right now are on hold. that s an understatement. essentially, they are out of the window in some ways. we should say right now the polling average has clinton up in the three or four-point we have her by five, but, yeah. somewhere around there. with 300 plus electoral votes if the election were held today, my general feeling about the election has been that a lot of the moving up and down with donald trump has been it drifts away as he attacks a judge or has a feud with a gold-star family or boasts about sexual assault which is later confirmed by 12 women saying on the record he did similar things, but that that number it s like a rubber band. they want to come back because they are partisan force a reason and he s the republican nominee. that s exactly right. before this friday, october surprise ever broke, we saw trump moving up slightly in the polls before then. even if he does rise, we can t necessarily say it was because of this. it is because he was getting more republicans than he was before after he shut his mouth. the key dynamic, even when he comes up to that ceiling, that is not and if you talk to the data folks who think about this a lot, they just think they have more votes. they think that the obama coalition is a bigger coalition and if they identify those voters, turn them out, that they have the bigger slice of the pie. so, i m of multiple minds of this and this keeps me up at night. i do think hillary clinton, if we look at the electoral math, if we look at the states that she needs, i think my political science brain says she has them. if people turn out, not even at obama levels, if we ve taken the average from 1992 until the principle, i think she s pretty solid. the issue is, i wonder if these trump people, who are first-time voters, who have never been polled. right. i wonder if they will turn out and they are the noise that we actually haven t been listening to. and there s a lot of uncertainty here. exactly. yeah. and with hillary clinton in a lot of ways, less is more. so the less democrats see of her and the less independents see of her, the more they like her. and so in some ways that s been a strategy, to sort of keep her although, i would disagree in this way. the less coverage they see of her, they like her. the more they see her, the more they like her. she s great one on one and with crowds. it s the coverage of her. that s the point. we have scandal, drama. we have sort of this throwback to 1992 and it s all of the baggage that the clintons bring. the two biggest things that have happened from a polling perspective, the conventions, hillary clinton talking to you and the first debate, here s hillary clinton. so the best things for her have been her actually out there with sustained attention of her as a person and her candidacy and then it ebbs and it moves back in the direction. the e-mails are a proxy for distrust. right. the more information we get about these e-mails, independents are struck with the fact that but the question about that is one of the things we re seeing is how strong the partisan fundamentals are even in parsing the e-mail story at this late stage of the race. asked about the october surprise and you see in fact the clinton voters saying, no, we actually like her more. right. and that s the question, in the big uncertainty, how many persuadables are left, how much this stuff affects them and introduced by the johnson/stein the only reason donald trump has closed the gap in the last few weeks, it s not because hillary clinton dropped. it s because donald trump went out and that s always the number to look at. if he s consolidating the republican base. it s still not been enough. harry and christina, thank you for that. thanks. still to come, candid close accounts from those who work with donald trump and how they coax him away from angry tweets. and lower your ability to fight them. tell your doctor if you are being treated for an infection or have symptoms. or if you have received a vaccine or plan to. inflammatory bowel disease can happen with taltz. including worsening of symptoms. serious allergic reactions can occur. now s your chance at completely clear skin. just ask your doctor about taltz. 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[burke] hot dog. seen it. covered it. influenced him most, an eye for an eye. joining me is michael steele and benji. it s also not like hidden. he s very much explicit about the role that vengeance, retribution, you hit me, i hit you, it s central to the way he s conducted his campaign and his world view. this is part of what people like about donald trump and what donald trump thinks himself as his guiding principle. i m a counterpuncher, he ll say, you have to fight fire with fire, he ll say and applies this to so many different things, i thought it would be good to take this as the way it explains his view and politically he ll attack opponents viciously, coming up with some excuse saying they attacked him but also with a policy level, torture, taking out families of suspected terrorists. killing terrorist family members is quite illegal. yes. michael, the thing i keep thinking about it, there s this creation with donald trump s campaign how he went to the last correspondents dinner and the president dressed him down and poked fun at him and i ll get you back. you wonder how that s going to be directed at the republican party should he fall short or even if he doesn t fall short, if he wins, either way, you know, we saw kelly anne conway when tammy duckworth threw dirt on the grave. you ve got to think retribution is going to be on the mind after this election, win or loss, against the people he feels wronged him. i think you ve already seen some of that. i think we can gather, from benjy s piece, that donald trump is an old testament guy. and because he s an old testament guy and really is coming out of the world of an eye for an eye and sometimes that extends into a lot of things that it shouldn t. for example, you ve already seen just in the last few weeks where the trump campaign is like, you know, we re not raising any more money for the party. we re just not. and that s just not what you do. right. you know, with two or three weeks left in the presidential campaign. so there s some aspects of this where donald trump has had enough of the gop. he s been fed up with this as he would look at them sort of elitists, weak-minded leadership and sort of taking a strike out on his own to finish his campaign up on his terms in the way he wants to and that, again, is a slap in the face to the party. part of it, also, this other sort of aspect of his personality, the way that people who work for him talk about him. let me say that, for the record, that there s a sort of common theme like staffers on capitol hill, you have to manipulate them, pro us doers in cable news led to water. this is sort of a common sort of trope among people who have to staff folks but it s another level with the way that trump staff talks about him. i mean, everyone around him is always talking about trying to kind of get this completely unruly undisciplined person to do certain things. it seems like a condemnation of the temperament of the person you want to give the nuclear codes to. you need to cajole him with brownies. we re talking about the most powerful job in the world. every president can use a few brownies. that s true. it s not like this hasn t happened in other administrations. that s true. there s a baseline. yeah, there is. but i take your point this way because there is something about the difference that has been a stark one for donald trump. here s a guy who s basically done a lot in business and in the private sector on his own against the odds without a lot of people telling him how to do it and, quite frankly, not giving a damn what they thought about how he was doing it from when his dad said don t go to manhattan and it s like, yeah, right, i m going to manhattan. it shouldn t surprise us that you take this asymmetrical person who has never had to account to anyone other than himself and bring him into politics and we re asking why aren t you doing what we tell you to do? it doesn t work that way and the expectation that it ever would is a shame on us for thinking it. right. although, discipline, it matters in the white house. no, it does. it s not like he s being wild and out of control, right? it goes back to this theme. judge curiel it s retribution.
we will hear from the girl and her mom this morning at 7:20 eastern. eric holder is making new announcements. is he adding fuel to the fire? log on for his debate. fox & friends starts now. bye. good morning. it is tuesday, december 2. i m elisabeth hasselbeck. it was a meeting of the protesting minds. president obama holding discussions on the ferguson fallout at the white house all while launching a plan to retrain cops on the taxpayers dime. that s you. is this really the answer? we report, you decide. why is al sharpton there? meanwhile the president threatens to shut down the federal government if republicans the bad guys do not fund his amnesty action. but how much will that cost us? we re crunching the numbers straight ahead. moses an inspirational icon in nearly every major faith but hollywood actor christian bale wonders if he was more like a terrorist. and if we should send in the drones. mornings are better with friends. hi everybody. i m huey lewis. stand by for the news. it s funny. he always laughs in the same spot there. it s amazing. yesterday i had no idea it s only four blocks from our house here at 48th and 6th. but u2 without bono was down the block. how come no one said anything? you didn t try to get into the show? it was a wide open show. bruce springsteen played the role of bono. number-one fan. i heard about it earlier. you knew? in addition to that gee began particular meeting of the minds in addition to that gigantic meeting of the minds musically, at the white house the president of the united states said i m going to do something about ferguson. so he did yesterday. he had a meeting. he called in clear why he called in clergy and cops and talked about what happened in the wake. the president did not offer an opinion, however, on the grand jury decision, which many in his party do not like, but instead he came up with a plan to keep it from happening again, he hopes. it is a four-point plan we can outline here for you. 50,000 police body cameras will be instituted here. it s going to be reviewed and implemented. the white house report a police militarization executive order on military-style equipment acquisition. we have military equipment. the military says why don t we give it to some of the police forces in some of the bigger cities in case they need t. for example, there is a nonstop terror attack and terror alert in our country. you might like some of this military equipment. should some of these dirty bombs go off or should there be widespread root rioting. the president said we ve got to address the problem. i would love to see someone say something positive about law enforcement. law enforcement is being thrown in the street as if everybody is bad and they all need to be massively retrained. they get more training for their job than 99% of americans get for our jobs. is any of the money being invested really by the taxpayers, is any of that going to be pointed to abiding by the law and maybe improving relations from both ends. it seems a little one-sided at one point when you look at that outline. president obama says he s deeply invested in this problem. a solvable problem but is one that unfortunately spikes after one event, and then fades into the background until something else happens. what i try to describe to people is why this time will be different. and part of the reason this time will be different is because the president of the united states is deeply invested in making sure that this time is different. that s great that he is deeply invested in it. i think we all are. the new york post this morning on their op-ed page has this editorial. it says in part, if the president wants a solution that will save lives, tell people not to resist arrest or assault. they want 50,000 body cameras. that s a good idea. i think it is a great idea. i don t see much push-back on law enforcement either. to spend $260 million on retraining. how many police forces out there are so bad they need to be retrained? that is an interesting point. that does infer that the training they have had is not enough? that says the cops out there don t know what they re doing. of course if you listen to al sharpton over on msnbc, he pretty much sounds like that all the time. there he is extraordinarily in the eisenhower office building sitting opposite the president of the united states. it is extraordinary that this guy who does host a show offense at msnbc was invited. but the lieutenant governor of the great state of missouri, peter kinder said this regarding reverend al. i cannot imagine any previous american president of either party welcoming an inciter of mobs like reverend sharpton into the white house, into his inner councils for sober advice. you re not going to get it from him. that may true especially people in new york. the one thing is he does pack the place. he goes into a congregation on sunday. the church is mobbed and he is considered by many a leader in the african-american community. but is he considered a peacemaker? he s a race baiter. you look at his history. you look atty what look at tijuana brawlly. you look at the fact that he owes millions on his taxes. how do you get away with that? i get a letter every week to pay $72. how do you get away with saying the fight is not over when you re in the white house, on the back of the president saying we should have peace on this. this doesn t seem to make sense. you either want someone who is going to help you maintain the peace or you don t. but the person in the oval office was al sharpton. a little concern by the lieutenant governor. al sharpton said this. we live in a country where we must support law enforcement but law enforcement must support justice. reverend al the grand jury did not indict officer wilson. if you re going to support justice you ve got to support that. one of the great sports personalities out there, he speaks his mind a lot of times controversially. you tell me if you think this is controversial or right on the mark. i m talking about charles barkley yesterday. we have to be really careful with the cops man. if it wasn t for the cops we d be living in the wild, wild west in our neighborhoods. i think we can t pick out certain incidents that don t go our way and act like the cops are all bad. you know how bad some of these neighborhoods would be if it wasn t for the cops? there s no excuse for those people to be out there burning down people s business, burning up police cars. and stopping traffic and blocking bridges when you ve got to get to work. listen. governor christie, whether he knew everything or nothing about what s happened on the george washington bridge he was vilified for his administration. people were fired for blocking one bridge on one day. every city in this country that is a major city in this country has been somehow diverted because of so-called peaceful and not so peaceful protests. don t stop us from getting to work or getting home and say i have a cause. you can hear from charles barkley which, where s the action for citizens to maybe perhaps get in line with what the police officers are trying to do in terms of keeping things civil? where s the training and budget for that? is it in there? we re all looking for it. is it a race thing or is it a crime thing? imagine if the police protested and didn t show up? what charles barkley is saying it would be utter chaos. if you re upset the rams came out and showed how they are supporting michael brown in ferguson? are you supportive of charles barkley speaking out like he did yesterday on the radio? do you want your sports stars to speak out about the news? weigh in, we ll be hopping on-line. we can t wait to read those. the cost of amnesty. president obama saying he s willing to shut down the government if republicans won t pass funding for his immigration policy. doug luzader is live in washington in the bureau with a breakdown on how much that is going to cost us. good morning. we re talking about the cost of legalizing these folks. we know illegal immigration brings with it huge costs of its own from enforcement to health care to actual tax evasion. that s the point the white house likes to jump on, as well as immigration activists saying if you legalize these folks all of a sudden they will be working above the table and that will help with u.s. tax receipts. we see that, a total of about $350 billion of economic activity would basically be taken out of the shadows and be essentially legalized. in terms of wage increases, we re anticipating about $12 billion a year. so will it be a net gain for the economy? the folks at the migration policy institute crunched some of the stats as far as who these individuals are. half have less than had a high school diploma. half do not speak english well or at all. 35% are unemployed or not part of the labor force. the illegal population overall has on average about a tenth grade education and earnings wise are probably going to be well below average. that s why most likely just as anybody with an average tenth grade education will probably not be a high earner and will end up paying less taxes than they receive in government services and benefits. one of the issues has to do with what s called the earned-income tax credit. that s for relatively low-income individuals. many of these illegal immigrants would qualify for the earned-income tax credit which means when they file their taxes at the end of the year, instead of sending money to the government, they get money back which is obviously a net drain on the treasury. steve, brian, and elisabeth back to you guys. in many cases it can be thousands of dollars per family. ainsley earhardt with her huge salary is with us today. you have a lot to bring us. let me start with this headline. the suspected serial killer wanted for murdering four people in west virginia is dead. police found 39-year-old jody hunt in his truck in the woods. they say he turned the gun on himself after an hours-long manhunt that supporters want students in north dakota to pass a citizenship test before they graduate high school. back to you guys. as long as we don t have to take a test. i think you d do okay, steve. i hope we all would. coming up on this tuesday morning, attorney general eric holder making bold guarantees on the heels of ferguson, missouri. this will institute rigorous new standards and robust safeguards to help end racial profiling once and for all. but what did the death of michael brown have to do with racial profiling? we re going to talk about that. no dolls or trucks for christmas? the new idea called no gender december attacking the toys right under your tree. how dare you. when you take advil you get relief right at the site of pain. wherever it is. advil stops pain right where it starts. relief doesn t get any better than this. advil. in the coming days i will announce updated justice department guidance regarding profiling by federal law enforcement. this, this will institute rigorous new standards and robust safeguards to help end racial profiling once and for all. that was attorney general eric holder yesterday in atlanta discussing racial profiling in the wake of the fallout in ferguson, missouri. this as the president announces a taxpayer-funded plan to retrain police officers across the country, and reverend al sharpton urges a continued fight for justice. is this really making matters better or maybe worse? joining us is milwaukee s county sherrif david clarke. good morning to you, sherrif. good morning, sir. how are you doing? doing fine. thanks very much. why the sudden push by the white house to do something about ferguson? what is the white house doing here? it s all theatrics. the white house understands the optics of this situation and so they create this flurry of activity and people mistake activity for accomplishment. i will resist any attempt by eric holder and the president of the united states, with all due respect, to try to run my office here at the local level. policing is a local issue. we do not need federal involvement. all they re trying to do is create this situation where the neighborhoods at the local level that need policing the most will get it the least because it will cause people to back off when they really should be aggressive in terms of taking care of business. i think it s a shame that the attorney general paints this broad brush of law enforcement officers all across the united states of america. the cops at the street level and i love street cops they don t have a voice e right now. i think it s time to push back. i think every chief and sherrif in the united states of america and all these organizations like the national sherrifs, major county sherrifs, major county chiefs should begin to push back at any attempt of the federal government to run local law enforcement agency. absolutely. chief, let me ask you this. so many are trying to make this about race. is this a race thing or a law enforcement, a crime thing? i don t know that it s either of those two. i don t look at it as an either-or proposition. the president held some summit at the white house yesterday and invited, he said law enforcement and other people. i wish he would have invited me because i would have looked at him and i would have pushed aside the thee i can t theatrics and say mr. president our people in milwaukee can t find meaningful work. you spent $1 trillion on a package you said would create jobs. where are the jobs? why do our kids in these urban centers have to attend failing public schools where they are shackled to a life of crime and violence? these kids will not reach their potential. we need better schools for our kids. those are the issues. the creation of the welfare state has not helped this thing. it s created a growing underclass and we saw the behaviors of the underclass on display last week. i would say why don t you issue an executive order and have it audit programs that have made it worse because they keep people addicted to handouts. that is what is wrong in these ghettos. it is not the police spoivment you got you got it right. sherrif, always a pleasure. thank you for your straight talk. more in a minute. memorabilia including scripts, props and war droap. wardrobe. ask people who moses is and they will probably say he parted the red sea. but ask actor christian bale who plays him in the movie exodus, he has a different answer when asked that. absolutely seen as a freedom fighter. hebrews but terrorist in terms of the egyptian empire. what would happen to moses if he arrived today? drones would be sent out after him. here to weigh in is fox news religion contributor father jonathan morris. interesting take. moses a terrorist? i think he said in relationship to the egyptian empire and the egyptians were holding the hebrews as slays. slaves. in today s terms? then the drone thing, it makes it sound like the big bad guys are the ones who use drones. of course that would be the u.s. and the west against terrorism. i don t like the comparison. put it that way. do you believe that is fair to what moses did? no. he certainly wasn t thinking about drones. he was a freedom fighter, no doubt. but a freedom fighter called by god to go up against an empire that was keeping the hebrew people enslaved. i guess when you hear the word terrorist now. because you re saying drones. you re looking in the past, not looking at now. it doesn t seem to people he was alluding to how they would have seen him then. he was describing modern terms. he also referred to moses as a schizophrenic. when you go back to the director, he talked about religion being the greatest source of evil. this is a few years ago. but religion being the greatest source of evil now. i don t think they re going after religion here and i think there is a lot that could be gotten out of this movie. i love the fact we re going back and doing epic biblical films. think of noah was there some good in that? yes. could it have been great? yes. was it? no. what was missing? the spirit of faith. i think there s three elements of a great religious film. one is great art. great art, great acting and then, third, a perspective of faith. the bible s not just a history book. it s not a history book. there s history in it, but it is a book of faith. when you get those three elements you re going to have an epic film. let me ask you about the film you re consulting on, a.d. does that contain those three elements? it absolutely does. otherwise i wouldn t be involved in it. the fact that they brought me in to be a part of it means they re trying to get it right from that perspective. i think a lot of organizations and directors could learn from that and say we re going to make this right. we re going to make epic films that have religious elements. give me a couple of words to describe moses, in your opinion? first of all, he was a humble man who listened to god and u the big things god was calling him to. he had a speech problem and he had to speak to the farrow. what am i supposed to tell him? i ll tell you when you get there. what kind of faith is that? dr. jonathan morris, always good to have you. thank you. this coming up, sorry? not sorry? the st. louis police say the rams apologized during this protest but the team is telling a dinner story. what is going on there? we re going to look into it. this boy scout is more than prepared. he went above and beyond to earn all 135 merit badges. he joins us live to talk about that rare feat next. good morning. first we re going to wish happy birthday to green bay packers quarterback aaron rodgers. he is 31 years old today. i m angela, and i quit smoking with chantix. people who know me, they say i never thought you would quit. but chantix helped me do it. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. it gave me the power to overcome the urge to smoke. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. some people had seizures while taking chantix. if you have any of these, stop chantix and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of mental health problems, which could get worse while taking chantix or history of seizures. don take chantix if you ve had a serious allergic or skin reaction to it. if you develop these, stop chantix and see your doctor right away as some can be life-threatening. tell your doctor if you have a history of heart or blood vessel problems, or if you develop new or worse symptoms. get medical help right away if you have symptoms of a heart attack or stroke. decrease alcohol use while taking chantix. use caution when driving or operating machinery. common side effects include nausea, trouble sleeping and unusual dreams. i m a non-smoker, that feels amazing. ask your doctor if chantix is right for you. children and adolescents in particular may be at an increased risk of seizures, confusion or abnormal behavior. the most common side effects are mild to moderate nausea and vomiting. so don t wait. attack the flu virus at its source. ask your doctor about tamiflu. prescription for flu. the white house christmas tree arrived this weekend. it is a 19 foot tall white fir from pennsylvania and first lady michelle obama was the first person to come out and take a look. watch. this is a big one. are they sure they can get this in the door? the secret service started laughing and said this is the white house. anything can get through the door. do they just throw the tree offense the do they just throw the tree over the fence. they re thinking about bending the fence out and having gymnasts try to get over the fence. set personal records. to have people try to hop in and see if they can stop them. why not? inch by inch. got to do some dry runs. we re going to run right now over to ainsley. let me tell you what s in the headlines this morning. thank you, elisabeth. a reward for any information about missing college student shane montgomery now raised to $25,000. but this morning still no sign of him. montgomery disappeared after leaving a bar in philadelphia on thanksgiving eve. that irish pub now kicking in $10,000 for any information. bar owners say montgomery was respectful when he was asked to leave after bumping into the d.j. table adding he was not acting drunk. is it an apology or is it not? st. louis county police and st. louis rams are now at odds over whether the team officially apologized for this hands up, don t shoot gesture. st. louis county police chief claimed the rams c.o.o. kevin demoff apologized for his players but demoff denies that: the police officers association called the gesture profoundly disappointing. a new campaign wants to make sure no little boys see these toys under the christmas tree this year. g.i. joe no gender december calling for a ban on toy favorites like g.i. joe for boys and barbies for girls. the movement calls on toy companies to be more inclusive asking supporters to only buy gender neutral toys this christmas. what is gender neutral in their opinion? one of last year s bestsellers, an eazy bake oven. here s a weather report that literally goes to the dogs. hey, king, how are you? live tv. how are you buddy? it s not your turn yet. you have to wait one more segment. that could on youtube later. miami weatherman ryan phillips getting interrupted by king the bulldog. king was supposed to be the on the show later in the segment called pet of the week but clearly king could not wait to become a celebrity. those are your headlines. is that a pit bull? it looked like it. he wants to come up and we said bulldog but it looked more like a pit bull. and that didn t look like an e-z bake oven. it looked more like a radio. let s see how we do with the weather. maria molina joins us from the streets of new york city where currently outside it s 38 degrees. it s a chilly morning. hello, everyone. speaking of a chilly morning, we expect a bit of a wintry mix across portions of the northeast. look at this system moving through. we have early this morning areas of snow and a wintry mix across portions of the mid-atlantic. later today into tonight we re going to see a more widespread wintry mix and even more snow from areas of new england spreading down to virginia and portions of ohio. accumulations are going to be very light so not a huge concern but it will be an issue on the roadways. farther west in california the story is the ongoing drought, extreme drought conditions in place still but we re getting much-needed rain in places like san francisco and also los angeles. temperature-wise much colder across the northeast. look at caribou, maine action highs in the teens. 40 degrees in new york city, a cool-down compared to yesterday. we were looking at temperatures into the 50 s. in texas also on the chilly side. highs there only in the 40 s and 50 s. let s head back inside. maria, thank you very much. brian, that is an e-z bake oven. meanwhile from american business to wood working, one 14-year-old in the washington, d.c. area has taken to heart the boy scott boy scout motto of be prepared as he achieved a rare feat. he earned every merit badge there is, all 135 of them. that boy scout josh mc coy joins us now. it is an honor to have you here. congratulations. thank you. what was your final patch and what was the most difficult one to get? the last merit badge that i earned was bugling merit badge. the one that was most difficult is a close tie between serving and bugling. you wouldn t happen to have a bugle there with you this morning, would you, because it is almost sunup in washington. yeah, i do. okay. let s hear something. as if we haven t already worked this out. what are you going to play? i m going to play taps. okay. [playing taps on bugle] very nice. i think he just woke up fred fare. impressive. it took you two years to learn all the songs, 15 songs to get that badge. well done. josh, why does it mean so much to you to get all these merit badges? a lot of people say it s enough just to be an eagle scout. i would say it means a lot to me to earn every single merit badge because, first of all, i hadn t chosen a career that i wanted to do before i joined scouting. second of all it was a lot of fun for me. that s great. what is the career you chose? i ve now chosen, i want to go into engineering. congratulations. that s terrific. while that will be a great business for you when you grow up and a great vocation, let me ask you this. the fact that you went after all 135 of the merit badges and i know your brother zach has 102 doesn t this have something to do with your father and the number of badges your dad got when he was your age? yes, it does. my dad got 82 merit badges. i m just an overall competitive person, so i wanted to beat him. by the time i had gotten to 83, there were just tons more merit badges that were fun left to do. and i just wanted to keep going. what did he say to you when you got your last? he said congratulations, and the deal was that if i beat him in merit badges, he would pay for me to do my scuba diving. congratulations. always cutting a deal. we know what you ll be doing next now, josh. i m going scuba diving with some of the people in my troop. is there a scuba merit badge? yes. i earned it. of course you did. all right. you have a badge for getting up early with fox & friends here, josh. congratulations. wish your brother well as well. he s right behind you. just for the record, it s an emotional badge. what is your troop number? i m from troop 1145 out of prince of peace lutheran church in springfield, virginia. thank you. well done. he s going to be a great engineer? sure is. a police chase starts with a car and ends with a skateboard. you ve got to see how this one ends. businesses supporting obamacare now being sued by the feds for complying with obamacare. how does that work? judge napolitano is here next. he says you can t make it up. i read his lips. i have $40, $21. could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement? 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we re going to ask fox news senior judicial analyst and author of a new book suicide pact judge andrew napolitano. thank you for being here. this is the mark of a government out of control when it writes laws that are so inconsistent with each other that in order to follow one law, you have to disobey the other. and the government enforces both, so you really are in a conundrum. what do you mean by that? if you re the owner of a corporation of 50 or more employees, you re required to encourage wellness among employees for chronic ailments like depression, hypertension, obesity. yes? but if you ask them if they are depressed, hypertension or obese, you violate the americans with disabilities act. if you follow obamacare by trying to find out if your employees need long-term assistance for chronic ailments the government will sue you for violating the americans with disabilities act. what kind of a government writes laws unless it didn t read the law before it became the law that are so inconsistent with each other and enforces them in such a manner that by obeying one you violate the other? this government and this obama administration. it puts the corporations in a position that s impossible. that s the interesting political part about this. a lot of corporate c.e.o. s went along with obamacare because they they wanted to go along to get along. a lot of insurance companies loved it. guess what? they re find out they hate it in large measure because of this particular conundrum. did the obama administration have to sue these corporations for asking their employees if they need some help with long-term health care? of course not. this was a discretionary act on the part of the obama administration. it s insane in the manner in which these laws are being enforced. how many times have we talked about selective enforcement on a myriad of issues? this government is excellent at it. let s talk about your brand-new book. it s called suicide pact. what s it about? it s not about suicide. it argues when the president takes a law into his own hands and the congress lets him, that is a suicide pact. suicide for our liberties. i didn t write this at the time president obama decided to change the immigration laws. obviously this book was written before that. but it s helping me to sell the book, because his presidency is an example of a president stealing power from congress, rewriting the laws, declaring war, doing it on his own and the congress letting him get away with it. relations with cuba could be next on deck as well as e.p.a. regulations, bypassing congress. hasn t this always been the case? haven t we always had an executive pushing against congress and vice versa? yes. in each presidency it s worse. the first half of this book is a history of presidential law breaking and lawmaking from george washington to bill clinton. the second half of this book looks at every executive order that we could get our hands on from george w. bush and barack obama post-9/11, all the things they did, both parties, both presidents exceeding their power under the constitution. but president obama has taken this to an entirely new level. in the book and this is the exit question, so you don t have to answer it in toto, just so we can help you sell a book, but who is the most lawless of our presidents? the present one. really? yes. to brian s argument, that may always be the case because they each rely on the behavior of their predecessors to justify legally and explain morally what they re trying to get away with. but within the pages of suicide packet the president present, barack obama, more than anybody else claimed he can kill americans without any due process. no president ever claimed that. check out the new book. it s called suicide pact. it s available everywhere. thank you. coming up straight ahead, is disney letting go of god? the disney website is under fire this morning for blocking a little girl s post saying she s thankful for god. i don t know if we can let that go. and it can happen any time you re out alone. an attack out of nowhere. we have one tough cop who just thwarted his own mugging with the skills mugging with the skills that could save your will that be all, sir? and often even more. it s reliable. just like kung pao fish. thank you, ping. reliably fast internet starts at $89.95 a month. comcast business. built for business. show them who is boss. here to show us how to protect yourself, former nypd detective and fox news contributor. welcome. i cannot believe a block away after you said good-bye to sean and geraldo, you ended up in trouble. it wasn t really trouble. i waited for sean to get in his car. then i start walking down the block, right here, 47th street. there was a big demonstration that night, if you remember down by times square. they were demonstrating on the shooting of st. louis, ferguson. so as i m walking down, my car was on 48th street. i had to go to 6th avenue, come around. i m walking. all of a sudden i saw these young guys milling around. i didn t think nothing of it. of course, they had hoodies on. so i still didn t think i limp because i broke my leg in my ankle. i limp a little late at night. i have a suit on. next thing is i walk in there, the one guy comes around front of me, he was tall, about 6 2. he came in my face and goes, where are you going? at that time i felt i knew what was coming down. remember, i was a decoy. i got mugged 500 times. on purpose. yeah, i had been stabbed, shot at. i felt it coming down. my initial reaction was how did i let them get so close to me and he was going to punch me. i looked in his eye and next thing was a shot in my face. moldly i put my hat under my jacket, i carry a gun legally. and i said to him, if you don t get out of my face, i m going to pop a cap. i used some vulgar language. but it was a street language where it s understood exactly what i meant. they knew i was armed. and they didn t want to do anything with it. how do we you re a tough guy, been through this before. but for many us, we have not had that happen before. you have basic hints that we could have if we re not armed. first, trust your instinct. right. if you re walk down the street, you feel like something is not right, cross the street. if you see someone standing there, be aware of your surroundings. don t be texting. that s the most important thing for people to be aware of their surroundings. also if you are confronted by someone, look right in their eye. let them know, i m not going down easy. so if you re going to rob me, you re going to have a problem. but most important thing is be aware of your surroundings. with christmas coming up with all the ferguson cash, all that, don t worry about that. worry about your surroundings. and don t walk into something if you uncomfortable, you re 100% right, it s not right. this is men and women. oh, yeah. if you have kids with you? yeah. this woman i saw on the news, she had a baby and they knocked it down and knocked her cell forelast night. the big thing is around christmas is the fact that be aware of your surroundings. when you shop and be aware of your pocketbook, your wallet sitting this, your cell phone. don t be not aware and then you won t become a victim. you got to drop geraldo and sean. they re nothing but trouble. let me tell you something, honestly, i m just glad it worked out the way it did. so are we. thank god you re okay to tell bus this story. when we come back, the latest on the ferguson protests.fer, don t go away. let it go let it go can t hold it back anymore a whole new world of censorship from the family friendly company. we re going to tell you about that as we re freezing here in new york city. freezing, frozen, get it? it s tuesday, you re watching fox & friends. this is sherry shepherd and you re watching fox & friends with my best pal, elisabeth hasselbeck. and those two other guys. that hurts our feelings. i thought she was nice. she doesn t mean it. you sure? she loves you guys. joining us to apologize, sherry shepherd, go ahead. nothing? i know she s actually watching. she watches in the morning. all right. let s talk about the news of the day. yesterday the president of the united states, so many people were saying, mr. president, you got to do something about ferguson. well, he did. he had a meeting there at the executive office building, the eisenhower building. he brought together clergy, as you can see there, police officer next to him, politician talking about the simmering tensions. what can the president do? well, you know what? he s got a four-point plan. it s $263 million in actual program push here for 50,000 police body cameras, a task force on police practices, white house report on police militarization executive order on military style equipment acquisitions. those are four prongs of the plan, which is costly for the taxpayer. 263 million. i feel like law enforcement had a very bad day yesterday because people were talking about all the changes that need to be done to their jobs to the way they go about it, the way they re even trained. the attorney general, while the president is having this meeting on how to make law enforcement better or modernized, he had the attorney general in atlanta pretty much convicting the cops of ferguson, saying that of course it was racial profiling that got this whole thing started on the wrong foot. listen to him. in the coming days, i will announce updated justice department guidance regarding profiling by federal law enforcement. this will institute rigorous new standards and robust safeguards to help end racial profiling once and for all. this is about racial profiling? keep in mind, that was never decide that had the case with officer wilson involved racial proceed filing, not once. it absolutely was not. just about an hour ago issues we had on this program milwaukee s sheriff, david clark. we asked him why the white house was doing this particular event and other things across the country and he was very clear. he said simply it is theatrics. they re just doing this right now to make it seem like they re doing something when, in fact, he sees what s going on in this country as an assault on police officers and sheriff clark is very clear, every police officer in the country should stand up now and be heard. here he is. policing is a local issue. we do not need federal involvement. all they re trying to do is create this situation where the neighborhoods at the local level that need policing the most will get it the least because it will cause people to back off when they really should be aggressive. it s a shame that the attorney general paints this broad brush of law enforcement officers all across the united states of america. the cops at the street level, and i love street cops, they don t have a voice right now. and i think it s time to push back. the black caucus weighed in yesterday, as well as marshal faulk, said everything has to change the think how bad everything is. on a if i m a street cop, making very little money, i know my life is on the line every day in the smallest and biggest city, i m saying, do i really need this job? if i m not going to get support from the highest level or from my police officers or from my sheriff who feels pressure from above, i don t know if it s worth the risk. think about it, with sheriff clark, he said it s theatric, that s why they re doing it now. i asked if it was a race thing or is it a crime thing, because michael brown roughed up the cop and assault and other things as well. he said it s not that simple. he said, you got to look at the bigger problem. the problems are in the black community, unemployment. you got to look at education. you got to look at opportunity as well. those are the things the president should be worried about. the trap of government handouts is something he noted. school system, which has them handcuffed to poverty. interesting to note that entire interview was excellent. it s beençó two weeks since n election, let s talk about the next one. 2016. senator rob portman says don t ask me to be president. and you have rand paul saying i m going to be a senator and probably running for president. the bigger news happened yesterday where jeb bush spoke. that s right. this is what he said about what it would take to have a republican leader step up. i m thinking about running for president and i ll make up my mind in short order. not that far out into the future. i don t know the exact timeline. it s the same decision making process that i ve always had. i don t know if i d be a good candidate or bad one. i know kind of know how republican can win, whether it s me or somebody else and it has to be much more uplifting, much more positive, much more willing to be practical. he s essentially laid out his blueprint, if he were to decide in short order. among his priorities, overhauling education, immigration, and the tax code. he also had some tough love for the incoming republican congress. he said stop trying to make a point. last year remember famously they are blamed for shutting down the government. he said, forge compromises. pass legislation and stop trying to repeal the affordable care act. instead come up with some alternatives when it comes to health care. that s right. let us know what you think about jeb 2016. we ll read it here. facebook, twitter. you can t argue with his resume for sure. ainsley, you have the latest news. i saw you working there. i do. let me tell you what you missed if you were sleeping. a suspected serial killer wanted for murdering four people in west virginia is dead. police found 39-year-old jody hunt in his truck in the woods. they said he turned the gun on himself after an hour s long manhunt that forced the lockdown of several schools in that area. friends identifying one of his victims as this lady. this is an ex-girlfriend of his who filed a domestic violence case against the suspect just last month. before his deadly rampage, he wrote this chilling facebook post. you will not hurt me anymore. you will not destroy my stolen heart as you tried so hard to do. a fox news alert now. the wife of the son of the isis leader being questioned in lebanon. two senior officials saying they captured them more than a week ago using fake i.d. cards. officials saying the woman believed to be one of the wives of isis leader al bagdadi. he was believed to be critically injured during an air attack back on november 8. but just days after, a new audio tape of him surfaced, calling for an increase in lone wolf attacks. there could be an immigration showdown in washington today as homeland security secretary jay johnson testifies before congress about the impact of amnesty on border security. president obama s new policies let 5 million illegal immigrants stay in our country. johnson argues removing illegals is not a priority. he calls the president s action common sense, by intense criticism from a band of republicans. even though injuries from a bike accident kept bono from performing on world aids day, he had some pretty good understudy ies. bruce springstein himself turning out for the free concert in new york city, performing with youtube. chris martin also filling in. he springstein and martin saved the event from being canceled after his injury. those are your headlines. bruce springstein for bono does not do it for me. he s still good. it was nice to stand in. best concert, u2, if you have a chance to go. great call. thanks for all that. ten minutes after the top of the hour. we told you the white house wants more spending to retrain police in the wake of the ferguson tragedy. is that really the answer? philadelphia mayor michael nutter who was in the room with the president yesterday joins us next. and government employees getting paid hundreds of thousands of your taxpayer dollars not to work. how does that make you feel? let me throw something across the room. hearing young people feeling marginalized and distrustful even after they ve done everything right. that s not who we are. and i don t think that s who the overwhelming majority of americans want us to be. president obama meeting with civil rights leaders at the white house following last week s fallout in ferguson. the president asking for $263 million to retrain police officers and fix what he calls a mistrust between law enforcement and the public. is more money, though, really the answer? joining us now, philadelphia mayor michael nutter, who attend yesterday s meeting with the president. mr. mayor, we thank you for joining us here. good morning. we continue to hear that the community feels marginalized, that there is a mistrust when it comes to the police. but what do you have to say as the mayor, to your law enforcement officials who feel marginalized and attacked by the efforts in the past week to really retrain their thinking and what is deemed as an attack on the black population? well, first and foremost, i have an incredible level of respect and appreciation and show support for the philadelphia police officers here in our city. these men and women risk their lives each and every day to make sure the rest us are safe. crime has been going down consistently in philadelphia during the seven years almost that i ve been in office. they have a tough and dangerous job. at the same time, we all work for the citizens here and the taxpayers. so treating people with dignity and respect has to be a part of their job and awful us as public servants. so at times there can be a disconnect. in communities, in any city, including our city, between how residents feel about the service that they get, how they are treated in their own community, and if that gap in trust grows, then you have a dangerous situation. citizens need the police. they re going to quality police. but at the same time mr. mayor, you used the term disconnect. is it a misperception that you think law enforcement has a different set of rules for the african-american community or minority community as opposed to the white community or is it the reality, in your mind? i think all of us come to our station in life with things that we ve grown up with, things we have in our mind, things that we see, things that we ve experienced, things we see, no disrespect to any of you, in the broader sense of media and movies and all kind of things, are going through our heads at any particular moment. so if you feel i mean, as i said yesterday across the table from president obama, why is it that black men in particular feel afraid when they are driving their car, maybe not doing anything issues but hear sirens go off behind them? there is a constant struggle of what is going to happen next. so whether it s real or it s a perception, it s the reality for that person and awful us have to deal with that. people don t want to feel that way. they want to call 911, know they re going to get good service and they want to see an officer walking down the street, or a car next to them and not have their heart start to racing because they don t know what s going to happen next. we have to deal with that as americans and come to grips with it. acknowledge that it s a problem and then take action. problem of feeling and perception what i m hearing, mr. mayor, right? 2012, 326 white i think for some in their own communities, it is the reality. they know someone who has possibly been abused. they know someone who may have been shot. sure. and so it s not just a feeling and a perception. for some people, whether in philly or halfway across the country, it is their own reality. mr. mayor, the president laid out the four-point plan, spend all that money on retraining. one of the new york papers wrote if the president wants a solution that will save lives, tell people not to resist arrest or assault police. well, i didn t see that particular piece. that s nicely written. but doesn t that make a great point? is there something to that? it s one point. but it s also about how officers interact with citizens. everyone has a responsibility here. every police officer is not how about having citizens react with the police officers. i mean, vice-versa. so everyone has a role to play here. i was taught i had the conversation, we call it mr. mayor, we have very little time. my father, a long time ago, about how to interact with police officers. so there is a mutual responsibility. great. you see, i agree with you, mr. mayor. i want to get a question in. it seems like the four-point plan is all about the cops changing. what about the community changing? what is the president s plan for the community? is it there? well, i think that the president did talk about not only 21st century policing and i m proud commissioner ramsey is the co-chair of that effort, but also the listening sessions of that attorney general holder just started literally yesterday in atlanta. some of those conversations will take place about what is the community s responsibility? how do we better interact with police officers? what is the right way to engage? so i think the president has been balanced in this effort. all of it may not have been completely laid out in the four points. but i think those four points are the right points. having community listening sessions, training police officers, engaging from the justice department in local communities, and also reevaluating how we give out the kind of equipment that we get from the military, which i support that program. but it needs accountability. i think all those elements will be there. the work of my brother s keeper, which we re strong supporters of here in philadelphia, so there is a community component to this and a responsibility to better understand what is policing about? why do officer december officers do what they do? but a lot of them do an unbelievable job and feel disrespected today about what s been happening over the last two weeks because they do an incredible job. thank you for joining us. we don t want them to feel that way. all right. thank you. 20 after the top of the hour. is disney letting go of god? its web site blocked a little girl s post, saying she s thankful for god. that girl and her mom are here next to tell their story. they must be bored over there. let it go, let it go can t hold me back anymore let it go well it looks like disney s frozen out god. when one little girl tried to post what she was thankful for on disneychannel.com, she was blocked because her reference to the almighty. apparently disney considers god s name a profanity. joining me now, lilly here with her mom. thank you both for being here. good morning. i know it s early. good morning. good morning. julie, i m going to start with you. i know lily by the way, happy birthday. i know it was this past weekend. we re excited for you. when lily went online to post what she was thankful for, what did she type in exactly? she typed in that she was thankful for god and her family and church and her friends. when she did, when she hit submit, it came up in red letters and the message that it said was please be nice. so she came and got me to let me know that something wasn t right and we started looking at it together and kind of playing with it and change words around a little bit to see what it was that it didn t like. and we found out that when we removed the word god from the post, the web site would allow it. so until you removed god, the word god, the web site would continue to tell you to be nice? that s correct. lily, how did that make you feel, when you just said what you were thankful for, and that was really nice note you wrote. how did it make you feel? it kind of made me feel a little bit confused about why it wasn t letting me send my message. sure. and that s what you were thankful for. i think that s a sweet message. we re excited you re sharing it here with us on fox & friends. julie, did you contact disney? what happened? here is your girl, she just turned ten, writing the sweetest thing on line. did you reach out to disney? i have not heard any response from disney. i reached out to todd sternson fox news and he s the one that did the write-up and shared her story for us so that we could get some sort of answer cause i just don t want children to feel like there is something wrong or something that they should be ashamed of in sharing their faith with their peers. lily, did you feel bad that they made you feel kind of bad about posting the word god? they made me feel a little bit bad because i couldn t write it. god is the reason that we have all this stuff that we have. you got a good heart. we did get a statement from disney. so i m gog read it here. maybe it will make you feel little better. it says, quote, because so many people attempt to abuse the system and use the word god in conjunction with profanity, in abundance of caution, our system is forced to catch and prevent any use of the word on our web site. what s your response to that, julie? you know, in a way it s understandable that what they re trying to prevent. but a big red message that tells a child that it s not nice to be thankful for god might not be the best way to handle that. lily, before we go, we will not censor you and we already know that you re a nice girl. so why don t you go ahead and tell america right now exactly what you re thankful for the way you wanted to the first time. go ahead. i m thankful for god and my family and all my friends cause he is the reason that i have all this stuff. you re an exceptional young girl. julie, you re a great mom of the we thank you for sharing your story here and for voicing your thanks to america loud and proud, lily. great work. thank you. thank you. you got it. she s got a good heart. this coming up, a reporter gets a little too close to his story. we re going to start with the hardest question of all. [ bleep ] my god. yikes. he was covering a shooting and almost became a victim of one? how that all happened next. talking hollywood politics and the president, up next. brian is joining him on the way to the curvy couch. good morning. the first ever interactive white house holiday card. see that? it s really cute. the way it works is you open the card, you enter your name and your social security number, and then you ll sign up for obamacare. happy holiday, suckers. amazing indeed. joining us on the curvy couch is steve gutenberg. he s got a new book out. good morning to you. another book. what s going on? i like to write. a little scribbling. what did you think of jimmy fallon taking a shot at the president? i know you have been a vocal supporter of the president in the past. well, we have a great country and the liberty that we have to be able to do that is fantastic. there are so many countries that you can t do that. it s great. there was emphatic support largely by hollywood early on. it seems it tapered a bit. what s your opinion about that? maybe shifting to hillary for 2016? i don t really see that. i don t think it s shifted at all. i think that everybody supports our president. it s the toughest job in the world, obviously. and you got to give the guy a lot of credit. he s got a lot to go up against. sure. but he s got critics when he does stuff that people don t appreciate. well, of course. we re always going to have critics. they re everywhere and that s what society is built on. do you something and everybody has an opinion about it. but i think we all love our country. not getting into it because i m just an actor. my opinion is just a single guy. you re an american. but i do believe that we re all fighting for the same thing. we have real troubles. we do. if you look at all the situations going on, we ve got a lot to go up against. it s important to have bipartisan, but at the same time, we ve got to work together. i think the biggest problem is personal ambition in government is taking over what we really have to fight for. interesting. just to make ourselves a great country. instead of the word service. it should almost be a sacrifice. i m putting my career on hold to serve. that s what the original intent was. it s not to get out and then make money. and i think that we ve sort of forgotten about that. but also just too much fighting. it s become uncivil. yeah. we got to put it together. i find there would be less fighting with me if people would agree with me more. i find for me to disagree. i find people would be happier if they went back to the days of disco. what are the odds, you got a book called the kids from disco. yeah. wait a minute. i m a kid from disco. i ve always wanted to write a book about uncles. people write books about children. that s the man from uncle. that s right. he wasn t an uncle. and i have two nieces and two nephews that i love very, very much and i m a great uncle. i m a very good uncle. and came up with this story about an uncle who becomes a super hero and employs his two niece and nephews to fight melvis pelvis. fantastic. because not many people fight the pelvis n no. until now. what are the keys to being a great uncle? nobody ever writes about that. the key to being a great uncle is to show the kids that you love their mother or their father, your brother or sister. i think that s the most important part of being an uncle is that they see i have two sisters how much i love my sisters and how you treat your sisters. so they can grow up and be like that, too. at the same time, they come over to my apartment and they can do whatever they want. free rein. yeah. good message. i want to bring up one thing, steve. you said something which is so insightful. casual give and at the same time but it really cut to the heart of the matter. what did you tell him before? which part are we talking about? when you went up to him and said, have you hung out with brian yet? that s right. the last time you were here, you said you both were from massapequa. there is no reason why you shouldn t be friends. that was two years ago. what the heck happened? well i don t want to hear excuse. we were hot and heavy. we went fishing fishing and boa. was it disco inferno hot? hold on. we might go clubbing. it s an uncle date. we ll take pictures and send them to steve. sunday, we ll go to christians. in massapequa. thank you very much. congratulations on the book. go get it. great message. the kids from disco. you ever toss to ainsley? no. here she is with the news. here she is with the news. what a great segment. y all are having so much fun. here is what s happening in the headlines. a 13-year-old boy found behind that fake wall in his father s georgia house is speaking out. doing great. i thank god. i downloaded an app. i called my mom. what a sweet young man. gregory, all smiles now, explaining how he escaped his father s house. he was held prisoner there away from his biological mother for four years. the teen-ager now telling police that he was beaten by his father and his stepmother. they re both behind bars and their bail was denied. meanwhile, the son is living now with his biological mother once again. tv cameras capturing the terrifying moments a reporter covering a shooting almost becomes the victim of one. he was interviewing a woman outside a store in west virginia when gun fire rang out. we re going to start off the hardest question [ bleep ] was there a shooting? yes. the two quickly running for cover behind a car. when i heard the first shot, my whole body got stiff. it was when i got behind the car that i realized how close it was because you could hear that zip. one man was hit, but he is okay this morning. police are still looking for the suspect. grayco in hot water over its latest safety recall. federal regulators are investigating a possible delay in reporting a safety defect which led to the biggest recall of children s seats in the united states. the buckles can get stuck, making it very hard to remove your child from the seat. the government says grayco was aware of the complaints as early as 2009, but never informed federal regulators. grayco insists it has been cooperative. imagine getting shocked every time you do something bad for you. that s exactly what happens when you wear one of these, padlock wristband. if you re in a bad habit, if you re doing something like spending too much time on line, not enough time at the gym, it will give you an electric jolt. it is nown sale for $200. so people pay to feel that? who controls that? otherwise it s like the invisible fence that the dogs use. thank you, ainsley. thanks. 20 minutes to the top of the hour. this coming up next. a fake hero learns the hard way if you re going to impersonate a u.s. army ranger, make sure there aren t any real ones nearby. i ve worn that uniform and i ve had friends get killed in afghanistan in that uniform, stolen valor, right here. wow. the real hero will be here next. right? thanks. one fake hero learns the hard way if you re going to impersonate a u.s. army ranger, better make sure there is not a soldier nearby. you re in rangers? there it is. where is your combat patch at? i gave it to a little kid. why is your flag so low on your shoulder? should be up here. got me on that one. why don t you just admit you re a phony. you know it s illegal, right? let me tell you something, i m a phony? yeah. then i wouldn t be wearing this uniform. you wouldn t? no. cause you are a phony. i called you out on ten different things. it s illegal what you re doing because i ve worn that [ bleep ] uniform and hive had friends get killed in afghanistan in that uniform. stolen valor right here! soldier burke, u.s. army veteran that confronted that phony is with us right now. thanks for your service. thank you. set the scene for us. looks like you re in a mall, you spot something and what did you do? i spotted this guy in an army combat uniform. he went into a store. i went in for a closer look because i like talking to fellow service members. as i got closer, a noticed a couple things were off with his uniform. his flag was low, boot lace were untucked. the badges on his chest were offcenter. so i took a step back and i just watched and talked to a little boy and kind of tell him stories about being in the military and this and that. and as he came out of the store, that s kind of when i initially confronted him about his uniform not being properly worn. we re hearing it. you have it you had your iphone and taping him. if you had the right earnings you would have backed off, correct? correct. initially did he have what could have been correct answers. when he approached me, i noticed he had two stars above his badge which would indicate he served in three different wars, which is almost physically impossible for his age. why does it bother you so much? well, i served in afghanistan and i ve had several friends get seriously wounded and a couple were killed in action who wore that same uniform, who put all that on the line and sacrificed that. to see somebody try and claim that type of sacrifice or dedication that my friends did really irked me. what about with your family? don t you have a my grandfather served in world war ii. he was also in the army. and just that legacy of wearing that uniform, so many guys put their lives on the line and have lost their lives wearing that same uniform. somebody to pose as an actual soldier when they haven t sacrifice as much as those guys have, it s just wrong. you also get discounts and praise when you don t deserve it. that bothers you on top of that. what has been the online response since this has been posted out there? generally in the military community especially, it s been positive from my end. i d say fort most part, everybody supported what i did and they agree with it. there has been a couple negative responses, but overall, i think everybody was on board with me and thought i made the right choice. and what happened to him now? as of right now, the video on line has millions of views. the law enforcement officials are actually in the process of contacting him to investigate further if this guy should be prosecuted or not. it is a crime. it s been posted on facebook, says i worked with him. always called him out and he always stuck to his story. thankfully there is someone with more military knowledge than me that could pinpoint the lies. i could not. thank you. this made my day. yeah. it means a lot. like i said, i think there is more than just this guy walking around posing as a service member, claiming that they sacrificed as much as some of my friends have and i think when it s seen, it needs to be called out and these guys need to be prosecuted. you dropped out of penn state to go serve. now you re back, ready to graduate. what do you want to do next? hopefully law enforcement is my main goal here. at 26. what a life you ve already had. thanks so much for your service and thanks for doing what you did and everybody else serve notice, don t steal the valor. this is only for the select few. appreciate it. who is on your wrist? private first class anthony nunn, killed in may of 2011 and sergeant summers, also killed in july of 2011 in eastern afghanistan. wow. and you are making sure their memory stays alive. appreciate that. thanks so much. coming up, how do you turn that seasonal job into a permanent one? cheryl casone is here with that way to make that permanent next. but first on this day in history, 1938, new york s la guardia airport opened for business and immediately every plane was lifted. in 1965, turn, turn, turn by the birds was the number one song in america. and in 1976, castro in cuba [sound of crickets] brii,brii,brii [male narrator] we ve all heard how military veterans adjusting to the civilian world may have. certain. issues. 2. 30. 70. if only everyone had this issue. no matter what challenge they face, easter seals is here for america s veterans. the business of christmas shopping already in full swing. that means employers are looking for people to do the ringing up at the cash register. cheryl casone from our sister network, fox business, is here with the top five companies hiring today. i ve looked at the list, i heard of all of them. i love all the companies. they re look for workers. let s start are amazon. to be clear, they re all still hiring and look for people. yesterday with cyber monday, they were very strong for cyber monday. excellent. everybody is in the amazon and you can work for them. 80,000 holiday positions available at amazon. thousands of these jobs will turn into full-time jobs. amazon has been on a hiring tear. yesterday you did a segment about how they ve got a bunch of robots. but they still need actual people. they need people for sorting, for package, labeling, things like that. those fulfillment centers. they re opening more and more, including some here in this area. so that s the first one. next up, i love this company, nothing says a holiday like a honey baked ham. food. i love it! so this is the spiral honey baked ham. the founder actually invented the spiral, like the way that you cut the ham. i hope he made a lot of money. anyway, 10,000 jobs, production, preparing glaze in the hams, customer service agents. a lot of their managers were seasonal hires. they like to promote from within. it s good culture, i will say. absolutely. you just said that cyber monday was a very busy day. fed-ex is a place that s looking for people. yeah. 50,000 seasonal positions. all these companies are still hiring. don t think they re not. a majority of the seasonal workers will have the opportunity to go full time, continue working even if it is part-time after the holidays and fed-ex has really good benefits. if you can get full time with that company, the health care, the retirement, everything is really strong at fed-ex. they re pretty busy now. let s take a look at target. so they re this huge price war right now with wal-mart. they re really kind of going head to head. 70,000 jobs, 40% of last year s hires went full time at target. you get a discounts as well. they ll continue to hire. they re expanding. they re kind of fixing up the stores. and finally, sports authority, which is right next to target in my town. is it really? yeah. very cool. if you need some weekend work, a little part-time i m off here at 9 request in the morning. you ve got the time. yeah. all right. so 50% discount if you like sporting goods items. 3500 jobs that are open. store managers, merchandising, sales, things like that. several hundred of those workers will become permanent. i think it s an opportunity you should consider. absolutely. and once again, i m sure today on the business network you re going to be talking about how so far the sales are looking better than on black friday? we re going to be covering retail sales because a lot more and more americans are doing their online shopping. and that s where everything is going. everything is listed at cassiniex casoneexchange. you could literally, if you walk into a stocks be hired that day. every day is christmas at casone exchange. don t miss cheryl on the fox business channel. thank you. thank you. coming up on this tuesday, the white house wants more spending to retrain police officers in the wake of the ferguson tragedy. retraining the cops? is that the answer? laura ingraham s got an opinion. she s next. and quiz time. what do goats and harlem globetrotters have in common? the answer next. that s baaad. ñi good morning. it is tuesday, december 2. i m elisabeth hasselbeck. the white house wants hundreds of millions of dollars to retrain cops. what about how the community treats police? where are those points in the plan? laura ingraham weighing in on that straight ahead. and the president threatens to shut down the federal government if republicans do not fund his amnesty plan. but how much is that going to cost? we are crunching the numbers and they are big ones, straight ahead. and caught on camera, wild police chase starts with a stolen car, then ends with a skateboard. not before a reality tv star jumps in to save the day. every word in that tease was true. it sounds like i made it up. but mornings are better with friends. it s time for fox & friends . that isn t sweet georgia brown, is it? this is giving tuesday. this is the harlem glebe trotters with some goats, a alpaca and llama. in the past we have told you about an organization remember a couple years ago, he have time it was my birthday, my wife would buy me a cow that would be donated to people in another country. they ve got a similar program, in fact, we ve been keeping one of the cows here in the studio they ve got a program where you can actually donate an alpaca and goats and fresh water. it s a wonderful program. it s a great program. on this giving tuesday, it s great way to share i could see how a cow could help. how about an alpaca? for the wool. it gives it up willingly. the alpaca is now offended. i want to make sure we weren t having alpaca for lunch. no. he s going to alpaca punch you. all right. we mentioned this a moment ago. the cost of amnesty, president obama now saying he is willing to shut down the federal government if republicans won t pass funding for his immigration policy. doug luzader has a calculator in washington, d.c., figuring out how much all that is going to cost. reporter: good morning. i need my green gadget this morning. a lot of numbers have been thrown around of the economic impact of the president s plan. let s talk about a couple of them. $40 billion. that s what the conservative heritage foundation estimates will be the cost to taxpayers of the president s new immigration plan. on the other hand, we ve got this number, $350 billion. one immigration advocate says that s how much economic activity will now be done above board. these are very strong net positives for the economy, particularly on the fiscal side. continued to pay heavily on the tax side and are the lowest users of government services. but is that really the case? you really have to look at illegal immigrants in general, the migration policy institute came up with this analysis of illegal immigrants. 50%, they say, have less than a high school diploma. 31% live below the poverty line. 51% don t speak english well or at all. 65% either unemployed or not part of the labor force. just as anybody with an average tenth grade education, will probably not be a high earner and end up paying less in taxes than they receive in government services and benefits. and that leads us to the earned income tax credit. generally low income earners don t pay an income tax to the government at the end of the year. instead the government actually sends them a check and the administration has been clear about this, that these illegal immigrants will, in fact, qualify for the earned income tax credit. back to you guys. because they paid in. doug, we thank you very much. great report. laura ingraham joins us live to discuss all that s been happening in ferguson and post. tensions rising across the nation. now a meeting in the white house. good morning to you. good morning. $263 million in ferguson spending to retrain law enforcement. is that a great way to spend the taxpayers money? first of all, let s look at what that whole scene looked like in there. when i just looked at the image, the screen shot of that, it looks and reminded me of one of those like thursday night seminars in college where everyone kind of sits around the table and talk about the world s problems and in the end, they just come up with the same conclusion, basically that the system is rigged; that minorities can t get ahead and that we need to spend more money. and indeed, that s exactly what happened yesterday at this meeting. there is never anything that happens in the country that the president doesn t believe can be fixed with the spending of more money and getting america deeper into debt. indeed, when you see the $263 million that he s proposing, i guess we could find that money somewhere. i don t know. we never talk about where we re getting the money. we print it. just take it from the military. that s what we re good at. and guys, i was thinking about this. body cameras, i think that s an interesting idea and i think obviously it would have vindicated officer wilson early on in this process. but maybe, why not put a body cam on the president, because i know a lot of people would like to know this how much time does he actually spend during the day on the u.s. economy? i m talking about jobs, opportunity for people, expanding economic opportunity, and running the government, versus doing the community organizing around the table. that body cam would be fascinating. so i m all in favor of spending money on that body camera. you know when would run all that, all his video would probably be the golf channel because he does a lot of that. great idea. they need some fresh programming. about an hour ago we had michael nutter, the mayor of philadelphia on. he was in the meeting with the president yesterday. essentially what he was saying is that the police need to be retrained so they know how to deal with the community. what about the community and their dealings with the police? listen to this exchange we had with him. treating people with dignity and respect has to be a part of their job and awful us as public servants. there can be a disconnect. in communities in any city, including our city between how residents feel about the service that they get, how they are treated in their own community, and if that gap in trust grows, then you have a dangerous situation. i think the president has been balanced in this effort. all of it may not have been completely laid out in the four points, but i think those four points are the right points. what do you think? how about self-reliance versus self pity? how about conforming our behavior to the law instead of bitterness? how about actually the principles of truth versus the principles of rabble rousing and spreading distrust, which i think this administration has done? actually speaking basic truths. i know that s a crazy concept in america today, but if you punch a cop, if you try to get into his car, if you walk down the middle of the street and rob a store, it s not going to end well. you re either going to end up in jail or someone is going to get hurt. it would be nice if the president of the united states with all of his education and all of his wisdom and all of his experience actually spoke truths to people and had the community really represented there. there was one police official there, but there were no shop keepers at that meeting yesterday and again nobody from ferguson. he always goes political at these meetings. he never goes pragmatic. and the pragmatic thing is people need jobs. stop giving opportunities away to illegal immigrants. actually focus on getting the communities at work because guess what? when you have to wake up in the morning and you have a job or child to really take care of, you don t have time to be out on the streets burning down buildings. sure. charles barkley, to your point and adding on there, said why don t we get practical here and imagine what it would be like without law enforcement doing the job that they re doing? be a wild, wild west. take a listen. we have to be really careful with the cop, man, because if it wasn t fort cops, we d be living in the wild, wild west in our neighborhoods. i think we can t pick out certain incidents that don t go our way and act like the cops are all bad. do you know how bad some of these neighborhoods would be if it wasn t for the cops? there is no excuse for those people to be out there burning down people s businesses, burning up police cars. laura? i would argue that the who has been more damaging and paid less attention to the true needs of minority communities in the country? the obama white house or state and local police? i would say state and local police has done more to help and assist minority communities than this administration has in the last five-plus years. so if you want to be mad at someone, i d be mad at the administration that hasn t spend really any time on getting real job, good-paying job noose this country. and instead is more recrimination, none of this is going to help the average minority in this country or working people. the attorney general hasn t left yet, was yesterday in atlanta and he was speaking out and he wants to end racial profiling, which i don t know how that figures into this case, but he came out and said once and for all, he wants to end it and that s the problem with policing today. do you think that was on message or off? well, i mean, this is the way they view the world. the racial prism is how the obama administration viewed the world at t very beginning of this administration and apparently it s worked so well for them, not, they re going to keep doing it until the 2016 election. again, i think people are fed up with this. i know a lot of people watching this right now are trying to figure out ways that they can actually buy christmas presents for their children this year. the people who are shutting down those stores, who are blocking the freeways, they re not the modern day rosa parks. most of them are very selfish and most of them don t really care about michael brown. they care about anarchy, chaos, and doing the whole anti-capitalist thing. that s what they care about. the president should have spoken about the dangers of what some of these people are doing on the streets and he didn t. yeah. maybe that s the message today, don t hold your breath. laura, thank you very much. have a great radio show. starts in about 50 minutes all across the country. thank you. we turn now to ainsley earhart, a lot to bring you this morning. what s going on this morning? thank you. the wife of the leader of isis now being questioned in lebanon. two senior officials saying they captured her and her nine-year-old son more than a week ago using fake i.d. cards crossing the border from syria. officials saying the woman is believed to be one of the wives of isis leader al bagdadi. he was thought to be critically injured during an air attack on november 8. but a few days after that, a new audio tape of him surfaced, calling for an increase in lone wolf attacks. a suspected serial killer wanted for murdering four people in west virginia is dead. police found 39-year-old jody hunt in his truck in the woods. they say that he turned the gun on himself after an hour long manhunt that forced the lockdown of several schools in the area. friends identifying one of his victims as an ex-girlfriend who filed a domestic violence case against the suspect just last month. before his deadly rampage, he wrote this chilling facebook post: you will not hurt me anymore. you will not destroy my soul and heart as you tried so hard to do. a reality tv star saves the day after a wild police chase near l.a it began when a suspect driving that stolen bmw slam noose a car stopped in traffic, then jumps out with his skateboard, as you can see. he skated away for about half a block with cops on his tail. it all came to an end when operation rico star in the red pick up truck cuts him off. police then took him into custody. see exactly what happened, see the guy running with his skateboard and running from the cops. they re right on him. there is six or seven cops. and he got on the skateboard and started moving and it s just instinct. blocked the guy off and slowed him down a little bit. apparently the star lost 150 pounds in the past year, so no one even recognized him. those are your headlines. back to you. you recognized hip. we all did. thanks. this coming up, the rioters in ferguson are running wild. but one group of armed volunteers patrolling the town from roof tops is being threatened with arrest. is that fair? one of those volunteers joins us next. and this wasn t on the radar. a weatherman caught by surprise when a playful pup takes over his weather report. good boy. oath keepers. who are you guys and gals? oath keepers are individuals that come from first responder backgrounds, military, law enforcement, firefighters, paramedics. they re the individuals that put themselves in harm s way to keep others safe. so when we hear this, this is a statement i want to read to you. it s from the st. louis county police department saying that you re not obeying the laws. quote, individuals from the group did not adhere to the st. louis county ordinance regulating security officers, couriers and guard. that ordinance prohibits anyone from providing security without first obtaining a license. what is your response to that? well, the rest of that has to do with being paid to be there. that wasn t the case with any of us. we re all volunteers. sure you are. and i know that there are a number of business owners forget about what the officials say. people who own some of those businesses and buildings were thankful that you guys showed up because you showed up when a lot of people wouldn t. that s true. there was a lot of hugs and tears. they couldn t believe that perfect strangers would come and do that for them. why did you do it? that s what we do. while others run from danger, we run into it. it s part of who we are. that s how we re wired. if indeed you are stopped from doing what you are meant to do, what you re wire to do do to help others, what will be the result, john? we won t stop. why? because no one else is there to stand in the gap. no one is there to do the job. that s why we had to roll out and do what we did, because everybody else was standing by. those that were in roles that were supposed to protect the town, they did not. i read a statistic that every building that you guys protected is still standing today. so that s a salute to the fact that the oath keepers were op the roofs keeping an eye on things. thank you for joining us. thank you. you bet. 20 minutes after the top of the hour. coming up, while illegal immigrants make themselves at home in the united states, american students now have to pass a citizenship test to graduate. does that make sense to you? would you pass? and a football player suing his high school, saying it didn t protect him from concussions. could the case be the end of high school football? arthur and ablow walk not guilty to take on the legal insanity next. a kid. i m just overall a competitive person, so i wanted to beat him. by the time i had gotten to 83, there were just tons more merit badges that were fun left to do and i just wanted to keep going. he did, but he ran through all of them. he says the bugling badge was the hardest to earn. but he got it last. brian, over to you and the guys. all right. former high school football player now suing the illinois high school association, claiming it did not do enough to protect him from concussions. standards, the ihsa has implemented are still fairly below the standards that we think are now the norm in the industry given the state of knowledge that we possess. wow. suing. could this spell the end of high school football? here to react, fox news legal analyst arthur aidala and dr. keith ablow. you like this suit, arthur? i like the purpose of it. i like what they re trying to do, they re trying prevent injuries on young people. from a very practical point of view, this is a class action lawsuit. that attorney you just showed, he could get multi generational wealth for him and his family if all of these high school players start popping up from generations past saying hey, i was hit in the head, i had a concussion, now i get headaches every day. by the way, how do you prove if someone really has a headache every day? i m not sure. if they know they re going to get a check? the attorney is a attacking joe, who has his heart in the right place. this class action suit, i know him. i talked to him. i did my homework. i know him everybody knows, everybody knows that hitting your head in football and the fact that you get blurry eyed and concussions, this was a risk. so the fact is, if you knew that and you were the people putting on this game, if you re the organizers of the game, that s called negligence. it s like i have to take the lawyer to school. the protocols in 2003, didn t play past high school. were they in place like they are now in the nfl? they re not. but the way the doctor opined, that everybody knew what the dangers are of a concussion, they re going to have to prove that everybody knew that there was a risk and that the risk was this suit is not just about money. here you impugne the reputation of a great attorney. i m not impugning it. i can tell you one thing don t misquote me. the nacc case as well, in that case, he was very focused on achieveing change. there are 8 million high school athletes, football players. 140,000 will get concussions on an average basis. so eight high school students did die playing this game. so it s a risk that you have going in. if these schools have to pay out this money, you have thoroughly destroyed the sport. i don t think you have. and guess what? i don t know if it s such a terrible thing if you do medical checks after somebody has a terrible head trauma on the field and you sideline the kid for the game. what s so bad about that? here is what the lawyer is saying. everything doesn t have to be accomplished through a lawsuit. you could accomplish this same goal through a series of meetings lawslaws are made this way. it doesn t have to be all the time. how can you get that pocket square? the suit has to be a very expensive suit. i will say this. everyone s heart is in the right place. everything doesn t have to be a lawsuit. the biggest take away is there is a target on football at every level. let s make it safe. absolutely. arthur, thanks so much. you guys are a handful. unbelievable. i can t watch him and argue with him and everything else. they actually like each other, believe it or not. coming up in the next 35 minutes, ray rice free o play in the nfl and now he is speaking out. if i never play football again, i ll be honest with you, i would sacrifice more so she could have a better future. more from his newest interview out this morning. and quiz time, what do goats and globetrotters have in common? elisabeth has the answer and she also has a coat. bought 17 books. including the laughing monsters, being mortal and heart of darkness. or as the cashier put it, are you okay? chicken soup for the presidential saul? you want to get that? that is quite a book reading list. did you hear what he said about chuck todd s book about him? he said sad. a sad picture of the president on the cover. is that what he meant? not that it s sad he wrote a book? maybe not. from sad to happy a great smile is just around the corner right there with ainsley earhart ready to bring us the headlines. you re so sweet. thank you so much. here is what you missed while you were sleeping. the reward for information about missing college student shane montgomery now raised to $25,000. but this morning still no sign of him. he disappeared after leaving a bar in philly on thanksgiving eve. that irish pub now kicking in $10,000 for information as well. bar owners say he was respectful when he was asked to leave after bumping into the d.j. table, adding he wasn t acting drunk. ray rice now free to play in the nfl with video surfacing of him punching his fiance. now what he thinks it will take for an nfl team to give him a second chance. one thing i think that they will have to be willing to, you know, look deeper into who i am and realize that me and my wife have one bad night and i took full responsibility for it and one thing about my punishment and everything going along with it, anything that happens is that i have accepted it. i went fully toward it. i never complained or i never did anything like that. four teams expressed some interest and rice is now a free agent. is it an apology or not? st. louis county police and the st. louis rams are at odds over whether a team officially apologized for this hands up, don t shoot gesture. st. louis county police chief john bellmar claims the rams coo apologized for his players. but the coo denies this, saying he expressed regret the players he actions were seen as offensive burks never officially apologized. the police officers association called that gesture profoundly disappointing. and here is a weather report that literally goes to the dogs. when i have it to reopen it hey, king. how are you? live tv. how are you, buddy? it s not your turn yet. you have to wait one more segment. is this going to be on youtube? miami weatherman getting interrupted by king, that one-year-old american bulldog mix. king was scheduled to be on the show a little later as the pet of the week. but couldn t wait to become a star. those are some of your headlines. maria has weather here. have you ever had a dog interrupt your weather? no, but bring it on. bring the dogs overt we have had dogs on the set and i have done a weather forecast with a dog next to me who did not interrupt me. let s look at the radar. we have areas of rain and even a little wintery mix across portions of the mid-atlantic early today. as we head into later this afternoon and this evening, we re going to be looking at more widespread areas of snow and also wintery mix developing across parts of new england all the way down to the mid-atlantic. 2003 have a number of winter weather advisories and freezing rain advisories out there across parts of pennsylvania and ohio. so be careful on the roadways. it will get slick out there. across california, much needed rain coming in to areas like san francisco and los angeles. temperature wise, you re much colder today across areas in the northeast. texas, also chilly. highs in the 40s and 50s. and across places like minneapolis, high temperatures there, only in the 20s. now let s head over to elisabeth and brian who are about 20 pete pete feet to my right. today is giving tuesday and to celebrate the harlem globetrotters have teamed up with christian organization world vision promoting the importance of giving back this holiday season. here with us now are two members of the globetrotters, alex and herb, along with a few friends. nice to see you. i thought it was reverse. i thought you could outjump him, but i m wrong. actually he can at this point in my career. but not in this weather. you are freezing. he was still able to teach a couple of tricks to us. talk about why you have furry friends with you today. we partnered up with world vision, so why not team up with somebody like them. we want to encourage our fans to give to underprivileged communities and a way to do that is going to the world vision catalog and you can find out more about the catalog at worldvisiongifts.org. you can find life-changing gifts such as llamas, cows, alpacas. you can get two soccer balls for 16 bucks. whatever you have more of in your wallet. whatever you can give, you give a lot of joy and you also keep people smiling throughout the year with some tricks. can you teach us one before you go? oh, yeah. you want to try something? sure. here we go. all right. i want you to go around your back, underneath your leg, off the knee. okay. around my back, underneath my leg. that s pretty good. you seem less than impressed. all right. for you you want to go around the body. okay? like that, back and forth. i think duke it. i saw you working on it. i ll try. there you go. like that? that was very good. let me trio get the ball from you guys. see if you can trio do that. i need a llama to help me. you need a llama? thank you for coming down. world vision, a great cause. always providing a smile with great talent. giving back to the community. jog it in. steve, take it away. thank you, brian. coming up, how are we dealing with the new isis threat against our military? by telling them to scrub their social media? really? is there freedom of speech, the latest victim in the war on terror. peter johnson, jr. weighs in on that next. and no dolls or g.i. joes for christmas. the new idea called no gender december attack the toys under your tree already. say good-bye to g.i. joe, barbie. god is the reason that we have all this stuff that we have. i just don t want children to feel like there is something wrong or something that they should be ashamed of in sharing their faith with their peers. disney s response says it was because of censoring software that catches people who abuse the system by adding god to profanity. that was their answer. steve? the f.b.i. has issued the strongest warning to date about possible isis attacks against members of the u.s. military. in a memo from the department of homeland security, the f.b.i., service members are told to scrub their social media accounts. quote, for any information that might serve to attract the attention of isil and its supporters. is free speech now the latest victim in the war on terror? peter johnson, jr. joins us live. it may be, but it may be necessary. this is first reported on fox back in october. let s talk about the joint bulletin. what it does is strongly urges service members to scrub their social media accounts, like twitter and facebook. removing anything that might bring unwanted attention or help extremists learn their identities or their families identities or locations because officials fear copy cat attacks like the attacks that we saw in can did and frankly, what we ve seen at fort hood in the past. radical extremists acting against service members here in the united states. sure. and it was in october that an air force guy and his son were targeted by social media. they said hey, go after these guys. absolutely. the issue becomes is this the first amendment going by the boards because of isil, because of al-qaeda, because of terrorism generally? do our service members and their family have to limit what has become really the face of the first amendment in the 21st century, their participation in social media? obviously it has a point. obviously locations, sensitive locations shouldn t be given away. obviously family members and military shouldn t say i m here, i m over there and then become subject first to internet attacks and then potentially slaughtered by terrorists, which is the fear of the f.b.i. and the department of homeland security. we ve had this in the past in our culture, in our history. look at world war ii. there were posters of the government put out, loose lips sink ships. meaning if you spoke about troop movements, if you spoke about where people were, then we might lose ships in the war against the axis powers. then also invoking the stetson hat, keep it under your stetson hat. keep that information under your stetson hat. but at the same time, though we understand that this is a great, great infringement on who we are as a people, that somehow a military officer, a veteran, someone who is a blue star or gold star or a silver star member or family should somehow disguise their service or be ashamed of it for fear that they or their family will be struck by terrorism. that s the balance that we re facing in this society now. and so i hope that our honoring of service, that our public acknowledgment of service in this country doesn t go by the boards, that there are ways that people can fly the blue star flag of service and that we can honor our patriots in this country without fear of being attacked by terrorists. i think we should spend as much time ensuring that they are safe as warning them about engaging in social media. obviously they need to be smart as we all do. but we don t need to succumb in a total way to their terrorization. otherwise the terrorists win. and they can t win and they won t win. all right. well said. thank you very much. 12 minutes before the top of the hour on this tuesday. still ahead, attorney general eric holder said he s going to end racial profiling once and for all. one sheriff says racial profiling not the problem at all. his message to the attorney general and your comments pouring in next. first let s check in with hem who are has got the show in 12 minute. how you doing? good morning to you. homeland security secretary testifies in the president s move on immigration. there is a big republican meeting this morning at the same time. what is the best way forward for the new majority? we re all over both stories. and a ordained drops out of the race for 2016. so who is in today? is iran helping the u.s. bomb isis? there is evidence apparently. we ll show it to you. martha and i will see you at the top of the hour on america s newsroom . welcome back. we ve been talking this morning about how the president of the united states has been told you got to do something about ferguson and yesterday he convened a meeting at the white house of religious leaders, civic leaders, and police officers. that s right. one individual who should have possibly been there ho had something to say to the president about leadership, law enforcement and communities and how things could actually get better is sheriff david clark out of milwaukee, the county sheriff there. this is what he had to say about his message and what it would have been to the president. policing is a local issue. we do not need federal involvement. all they re trying to do is create this situation where the neighborhoods at the local level that need policing the most will get it the least because it will cause people to back off when they really should be aggressive. it s a shame that the attorney general paints this broad brush of law enforcement officers all across the united states of america. the cops at the street level, and i love street cops they don t have a voice right now. i think it s time to push back. law enforcement did not have a voice yesterday. not in washington, not in the meeting that they had and not in atlanta with the attorney general where he came back and said, hey, we have once and for all got to stop racial profiling. instead of saying good detective work or we understand what you re up against, there was none of that. there was a lot of protest. he supported the protest that he had to walk through and deal with in his speech, said, i m not even mad at you. it has been decided that this case in ferguson, the death of michael brown that led to the nonindictment of officer wilson there involved racial profiling. nothing has been decided as it relates to that. in the new york post today on the editorial page, they said that last week the president said we need to accept the decision that where he said the grand jury was was the grand jury meant to take. it was their decision. if that s the case, they say that the attorney general should probably stop trying to make this a federal case. eric holder, who is out there saying that he s going to stop racial profiling once and for all. and come up with you have the president meeting with some leaders on coming up with a four-point plan, plus that s going to be on the backs of the taxpayer, $263 million, putting cameras on police officers moving forward. but then when you hear from those real boots on the ground, sowf the sheriff, the local feds going in there in terms of police work, their voice were not heard. but yours are on facebook. one stays, the less you have the feds involved, the better it is for the states, counties and our cities in the nation. the locals know what is best for the citizens of that particular state. the mayor of philadelphia was in support of the meeting which he was invited to. on facebook, one says, i m tired of all the criticism of law enforcement. unless you have put a uniform on, put yourself in harm s way, you have no idea what it is like. joanne is on facebook and she wrote this: bravo, at last a brave soul that is willing to tell it like it is. why wasn t he invited to the white house? the sheriff also said that what the white house is doing complete theatrics. that s it. one more post, at this point, i agree, they are making it more difficult for the police to protect themselves. thus protect our citizens in the long run. thanks for sending those in. keep them coming. also something that was curious is if you re going to have a meeting at the white house, talking about the problems with ferguson so they don t go forward in the future, you would have thought they would have invited somebody from ferguson. and invited some of the protesters, but none of the people in authority of ferguson, which seemed like they left somebody off the list. one of the individuals there said that the protests should have happened even before the verdict. that people should have opinion out there they said riots. they should have been lots of riots before the verdict. strong language. yeah. we ll see what happens in the aftermath of this and what are the president s four-point plan gets implemented. we ll see. more fox & friends in just a moment.