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spent an entire week at one of his golf course. it should not be that hard to find out whose interest the president is serving if own the congressional leaders would say subpoena his tax returns. more likely to support a candidate who promises to be a check on the president. fresh off another round of encouraging election results on tuesday, democrats have a message of their own, they are in the words of nancy pelosi clean up corruption. what does that mean? cleaning up corruption. how do you do it? we have to make sure that we can get big money out of politics. what we have seen is dark money
risk of not getting kavanaugh confirmed. it is not a matter it is a matter of timing. that sounds like they support in impeaching rod rosenstein but not doing it now. the plot which is to go after rod rosenstein but allow the senate to jam the supreme court justice. do that work and then return after the midterm elections to try to jam up rod rosenstein. most people can remember that the clinton impeachment took place in the aftermath of the midterm election. it appears they want to go out and do the same thing. it was in 1998 midterms breaking with history. a stunning rebuke of republicans who lost seats in congress and continued in that lame duck
session. do you think that is what they would do? it wouldn t shock me. if they lose the house and well, a few months left, let s impeach rosenstein. of course, that is what they do. the so-called chairman of the intelligence committee is a complete embarrassment. what is worse is that you have the number four-person signing off on this and we can t believe what the leadership is saying. when we know what donald trump wants to do is get rid of rod rosenstein because he wants to get rid of the investigation. nunes is a special case in terms of the extraordinary lengths he has gone to. that is basically most of the way the republicans feel about this. significant members of house republicans are what i call the
cover up caucus. their sole objective of life is to deny the fact that we have a criminal conspiracy that appears to have taken place to sell out our democracy. they want to turn a blind eye to that and distract the american people in part by doing things like going after rod rosenstein. they are not spending a ton of time legislating. we want to lower prescription drug prices and raise pay. for more on the mounting corruption scandals joined by chris lew and former u.s. attorney harry litman. is it surprising to you that
how little investigative work the oversight has done. it is about ferreting out waste, fraud and abuse. scott pruitt, only one of them being done by the house oversight committee. any one of those things would have tripped him up. there was no issue that was small enough that the republicans would not investigate an obama cabinet member for. i remember back in 2011, this thing about $16 muffins used at a department of justice conference. that was an issue. that was a three-day story. i remember it. now talking about
$120 million with wilbur ross that likely would never be investigated. one of the things that comes through with the tapes is the control of the house is everything in terms of what happens, what is exposed and what we could get to the bottom of independent of the mueller investigation. totally right, as chris says a sea change and it is not simply that the shoe is on the other foot. much stronger bipartisan tradition among both the house and the senate committees that nunes in particular has demolished. remember, that fundraiser is for a member of the leadership of the house who is going along with the whole kind of program. it is clear that they placed themselves as vessels to the white house as protective for to
them and one corollary is that it makes them important that one force in town going after truth without fear in favor robert mueller be allowed to do his job. particularly bad not only trying to protect the president but demonize mueller. weird broken government. working in concert with the white house against a part of the executive. i want to get your response to giuliani talking about this back and forth with the mueller which again, take it with a grain of salt. i have no idea what is going on and this is his concern about why he doesn t want his client to testify about a perjury trap. he knows the answer to every question that he wants to ask. he is going it ask him did you tell comey to go easy on flynn. the president is going to say no i didn t. hey, bob, you know it.
why do you want to get him under oath? do you think we are fools? you want to trap him into perjury. we are not going to let you do that. how great is this? and the other one, chris, is even better. the other question that giuliani says is a paradigm of a perjury trap is why did you fire comey. as to that, we have heard eight different answers from the president of the united states. they have shifting and inconsistent and seven of them are lies. the gotcha strategy by the prosecution to want to hear the truth on this question on which criminal liability and the sort of integrity of the government rests is ludicrous this is exactly the opposite of a perjury trap. this is mr. president, what were you doing and why. what was your state of mind which by the way we do not know contra giuliani and don t know
what he is going to say. he said so many different things so far. this is down the center of what a legitimate prosecutor wants to find out. not just for criminal conduct but for the country and history. can you imagine pressure on the president from congress for him to actually talk to mueller? no. not under this current environment and that will be the issue coming down the road as to having the democratic congress that conducts oversight and doesn t impede a lawful investigation. i find the giuliani statement is amazing. and one of the favorite tweets today, tweeting it is only a perjury trap if you are a liar. there is no perjury trap if you tell the truth. i find giuliani slightly hard to follow and i will confess, and maybe that is me.
the president is going to lie, the premise of that thing is the president is going to lie. and lie about important material things not about was it a tuesday or wednesday which is what a perjury trap would be about. thank you both. thank you, chris. the manafort trial, day eight why the judge had to apologize to the mueller team. and how desperate paul manafort was when he entered the trump team. with drivewise. it lets you know when you go too fast. .and brake too hard. with feedback to help you drive safer. giving you the power to actually lower your cost. unfortunately, it can t do anything about that. now that you know the truth. are you in good hands?
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the courtroom. i was probably wrong in that. that s big of him. the judge had in fact been wrong. told the prosecution at the beginning of the trial, an expert witness could attend a trial unlike most witnesses allowed in the trial and yesterday lambasted the prosecution for doing that. i don t care what the transcript says, maybe i made a mistake. i am joined by national security and justice reporter julie ainsley. and judge nancy gertner. nancy let me start with you. you have run trials and lots of people reacting to judge ellis s disposition. what is your read on this? this particular one is interesting. the trial begins with a
government saying can we have this expert in the courtroom. the judge says yes, and puts him on the stand. the judge goes on and essentially criticizing the government in front of the judge for having welch in the courtroom during the testimony of other witnesses. the government did something interesting which they haven t done about other comments. literally filed a motion in front of him overnight showing him a transcript of what he had said and the motion he had approved. when the judge gave this curative instruction, it wasn t ambiguous, he was flat out wrong, wrong to admonish the government. never clear what impact that has on the jury. ordinarily, the judge looks to the judge as their representative in a way. he is the one who is the neutral in the case and so when the
judge leans on one side in a critical way, that could wind up hurting that side. sometimes it has the opposite effect. sometimes it could be that the jurors would look at the judge and saying you are going to hard on one side. can t really tell. but from what i understand from the reporting, this wasn t the first example of his. no. of his criticizing the government. julie, you were in the courtroom today, what was it like? that is exactly right. there were times when there were light heartedness from the prosecution. she had to read an emoji, the jury laugh and the judge stayed stone face and any time the defense wasn t ready, a lot of times when they were shuffling pages and he would say go ahead take all the time you need.
so there is clearly a heavy handedness here in one direction and that is against the prosecution. i think it would be hard for the jury not to pick up on that and have that opposite reaction that we just laid out here. it seems to be definitely one-sided. let me ask you about the testify was today. focused on the bank fraud stuff, financial documents, property owned in soho. early 2016, is that right? this was right when paul manafort was in his biggest financial crunch and starting to lie on loan applications, trying to refinance his mortgages and take out another loan for $5 million out of a bank in california with his son-in-law at the time. that was eventually written down to 1 million when it was find they couldn t use a house in bridge hampton because it was in
his wife s name. took investigation on account of the bank to figure it out. to figure out that paul manafort wasn t being forth coming. in some cases they couldn t figure it out because paul manafort had people lying for him and that was one person, cindy laporta. she has immunity. it was one of the dryer days being in the court because the prosecution really did go over a lot of the same evidence they have done before particularly on this howard street residence in new york. you could see the jury yawning and stretching in their chairs the psychology of a district trial judge in a case that you know was a huge deal. the nation is watching this and also from an appeals perspective, you know there is going to be appeals. how does that affect how you run a courtroom when you are dealing
with high stakes, high profile trial. it is hard to say in general, but what you would do, if you were concerned if one side was going too slowly or concerned about the scope of the evidence, what you would do is wait until the jury leaves the room and then admonish one side or the other. what you don t do is do this in front of the jury. but let me put the shoe on the other foot. i have no doubt and this is for after my years as a lawyer and my years as a judge. that if the defense was the focus of these kinds of comments they would be moved for a mistrial in a nano second. you avoid that by making comments if you have to and have to control the proceeding out of the presence of the jury. i understand today that he also said he thought attempted bank fraud wasn t very important. and that is a direct comment on
the evidence which you are not allowed to do. yeah. you are just not allowed to do that. that is a point that i would love to go back to. a part where the prosecution just finished questioning a witness and the defense just got up for cross examination, and he says i hope you focus on a loan that was actually approve. in other words, why did we just waste our time listening to that witness and whole 25, 30 questions that the prosecution laid out. essentially discrediting the case they made. yes? it is not just a question of doing whatever you are going to do, don t do it in front of the jury, number one. and what you do has to do with legal issues and not comments on the evidence. and this sounded like comments on the evidence. he should get anonymous
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back the house majority. she doesn t share our values. what do you say? well, i definitely would say that you know, having really seen so much opportunity in my life because of the shird distri shird district, i started out at johnson college community college, going from there to co cornell for law school. to say that i don t know the third district or kansas is laughable. you have an interesting bio. you were in mma for a while, is that wbr id= wbr19720 /> right? yeah, i have been a martial artist for a number of years /b>
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in the third district are concerned about access to affordable quality health care and that is the number one thing that i constantly hear from folks here on the ground. so definitely that has to be part of what i work on. and you know, education, education. public education has one, given me a great foundation and then two, it has for so long in this district been the reason that we have been able to thrive. i think that is something of course all of ckansas is concerned about. and secondly education. and the third one, there are quite a few things that people are concerned about. the environment is one. certainly, tax, you know, the tax implications of the last bill are another thing. and then immigration issues consistently come up. do you see yourself, they are
going it try to make this race about nancy pelosi, already made that clear. what is your response to you are going to be a proxy for nancy pelosi speakership? well, my response is, look, my entire life has been about trying to make progress and opening doors that have not been made open to people like me, and the lived experience. to say i can be a proxy for someone else when i come from a background that has not been represented in congress before is laughable. i am running for congress so the third district can have a strong representative. thank you so much for your time tonight. thank you. still ahead, tech giants reckoning a right-wing
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accused school shooting survivors of being actors claimed barack obama and hillary clinton are literal demons pushed the theiry john podesta was running a child ring if a pizzeria and said that the gay bomb has gotten into the water and turned frogs gay. alex jones is not a joke. he is being sued by some of the people he has targeted including the families of the victims, the massacre at sandy hook elementary school which he claims was staged. as a result, those families have faced harassment and abuse from jones fans. that didn t stop trump from appearing on jones show where he praised the truthers amazing reputation. and jones has depended on media platt forms like youtube, and twitter. his youtube channel alone has more than 2.4 million subscribers and earned more than 17 million views.
that was before this week. after months of equivocating on apple, youtube and spotify booted film the platforms, as well as expressions of grerns some citizen risk who have are no fans of jones. notably he was not banned by twitter. the ceo saying jones had not violated twitter s rules. he elaborated on twitter policy on sean hannity s radio show. any sort of violent speech, encouragement toward violence, harassment is directly against our materials of service and we take immediate action. i wish somebody would just punch hannity in the face. what do you do then? in all the considerations, not to get into specifics, we have to take the context. we have to really understand what the context of the conversation is. late today, noting the content that appears to violate twitter s rules does appear
repeatedly on his page. less than an hour later, more than a dozen videos and tweets were deleted. joining me, barry lynn, executive director, expressing concerns about whose contend should be allowed. as someone who has led these campaigns, how do you think about what the lines are? who is on one side of it and who isn t? actually, there s right and left. there s right and wrong and there s confenlt promotes violence. there s content that passes white nationalism and white supremacy as legitimate political rhetoric. and all of our campaigns are really rooted in this message of
the first amendment. alex jones has a first amendment, spotify and twitter have a first amendment, and at color of change, we have a first amendment. and they have the right to put alex jones on the air and we have a right to mobilize our people and hold them accountable and to tell corporations, if you play footsie with alex jones, you support his content, we are going to hold you accountable. for folks who believe in the market place, freefl speech, this is very much in the best interests of us holding those institutions accountable. did you an interview. you ve talked a lot about the threat of monopoly. in youtube and facebook and they re wrestling with what to do with all their monopoly power. but alex jones seems like low hanging fruitful he is in a special category, isn t he? he is kind of in a special category. you re absolutely right.
he is a pretty vile human being. personally i would pray that alex jones sort of burns in hellfire. but the question is, how, now that we have these corporations, like google and facebook, that have become essential facilities, essential communications net works within our nation, we have to have a conversation that goes beyond sort of asking google and facebook to shut this guy, people like alex jones down. we have to remember, he was to a very large extent a product of the power of google and facebook. you ve got now, youtube, facebook, google, you can watch anything on this and we ll take
some of that profit money and we don t have to police it, we don t to have deal with all that. we re just a neutral platform. alex jones is one example. these platforms are not neutral. as someone who has campaigned for years to force these corporations to actually adhere to the terms and services, they use all sorts of algorithms to serve up information. if i go now and google, for instance, things about white national i or david duke, i will be served up at some point maybe more information on that. so these platforms are not in any way neutral. when they tell you that they are, they are lying to you. we go back and forth. with spotify about alex jones and in particular, about them pulling some of his shows, by pointing to the terms and servicesful i will agree, these platforms have made alex jones, just like some tv networks have
made some really vile people in our society as well. that doesn t mean we should tolerate it. the thing i was struck by, like you, a little uneasiness about how these big tech giants will navigate this going forward. it was the collectiveness of it. they sit around and take no responsibility. alex jones is making them tons of money. they sell ads against him and apple leads the charge and then they all fall like dominos and you wonder when it will rear its head again. that s why we need to make a decision collectively about these corporations. we don t who know they ll do it to next. and this is really, it has been something, this is not the first time we ve seen this problem in america. we saw it in the 19 century with
the telegraph system. the owner of the telegraph system. jay gould tried on gain it for his own profit. but time and again we ve seen this problem and time and again the american people have learned to deal with these communications platforms and make them truly neutral and making sure they re serving us as opposed to serving up vile propaganda to us. please. yeah. before black folks, women, lgbt, these platforms are not neutral just like society is not neutral. four years ago, folks at ferguson were tweeting stories that the main stream media was not covering. and they raised their voices. and america focused its attention on ferguson. at the same time twitter has not been able to get itself together with how it deals with all the attacks on black lives matter activists. there is a long way to go. i agree. but every day, people standing

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Chris Hayes discusses the day s top news.
legislation that this congress has been pushing forward. the biggest example of it was the corrupt gop tax scam where 83% of the benefits went to the wealthiest 1%. this was not done for the people. that s what we stand for as democrats. it was done for the lobbyist, the wealthiest, the billionaires. this is corruption happening in plain sight. i would not disagree that is corrupt. but that is every day corruption. that is a system that is shot through with corruption. i don t want to minimize that. we are talking about specific corruption in that this president has a whole host of corrupt relationships to his business and things like that. that my question would, what would they do if they got the majority they are lying, cheating, stealing and doing it with impunity.
and the reason is this congress has refused to do constitutional oversight responsibilities. the house of representatives doesn t work for donald trump. we work for the american people. but these guys on the other side of the aisle have not gotten the memo. so acting as co-conspirators. refusing to do oversight and subpoena documents and expose these corrupt scandals to the american people. democrats will do that. every day i think to myself, there should be a hearing on that. one example the insane story of the three mar-a-lago lawyers. should there be hearings on that? absolutely. you know, the oversight and government reform committee basically, for years wasted millions of dollars on hillary clinton s e-mails which was a fake scandal designed to
undermine her presidency but refuses to do anything at the corrupt, at the corrupt instance that has arisen. it is shameful. and you are not going to get them to act as constitutional check and balance as devin nunes disclosed to his donors. i want to play one bit of tape. before you guys went on recess, they filed articles of impeachment on rod rosenstein. listen to what he had to say. also, on things that came up in the house on rosenstein impeachment thing.
yeah, yeah, well, so it s a bit complicated right and i say that because you have to, so we only have so many months left, right. so if we actually vote to impeach, okay, what that does is that triggers the senate that has to take it up. well, you have to decide what you want right now, because the senate only has so much time. you want them to drop everything and not confirm the supreme court justice. you are i said publicly rosenstein needs to be impeached. the question is the timing of it right before the election. the senate has to start the senate would have to drop everything they are doing and start with impeachment on rosenstein and then take the risk of not getting kavanaugh confirmed.
it is not a matter it is a matter of timing. that sounds like they support in impeaching rod rosenstein but not doing it now. the plot which is to go after rod rosenstein but allow the senate to jam the supreme court justice. do that work and then return after the midterm elections to try to jam up rod rosenstein. most people can remember that the clinton impeachment took place in the aftermath of the midterm election. it appears they want to go out and do the same thing. it was in 1998 midterms breaking with history. a stunning rebuke of republicans who lost seats in congress and continued in that lame duck session. do you think that is what they would do? it wouldn t shock me.
if they lose the house and well, a few months left, let s impeach rosenstein. of course, that is what they do. the so-called chairman of the intelligence committee is a complete embarrassment. what is worse is that you have the number four-person signing off on this and we can t believe what the leadership is saying. when we know what donald trump wants to do is get rid of rod rosenstein because he wants to get rid of the investigation. nunes is a special case in terms of the extraordinary lengths he has gone to. that is basically most of the way the republicans feel about this. significant members of house republicans are what i call the cover up caucus. their sole objective of life is to deny the fact that we have a criminal conspiracy that appears
to have taken place to sell out our democracy. they want to turn a blind eye to that and distract the american people in part by doing things like going after rod rosenstein. they are not spending a ton of time legislating. we want to lower prescription drug prices and raise pay. for more on the mounting corruption scandals joined by chris lew and former u.s. attorney harry litman. is it surprising to you that how little investigative work the oversight has done. it is about ferreting out
waste, fraud and abuse. scott pruitt, only one of them being done by the house oversight committee. any one of those things would have tripped him up. there was no issue that was small enough that the republicans would not investigate an obama cabinet member for. i remember back in 2011, this thing about $16 muffins used at a department of justice conference. that was an issue. that was a three-day story. i remember it. now talking about $120 million with wilbur ross that likely would never be investigated. one of the things that comes
through with the tapes is the control of the house is everything in terms of what happens, what is exposed and what we could get to the bottom of independent of the mueller investigation. totally right, as chris says a sea change and it is not simply that the shoe is on the other foot. much stronger bipartisan tradition among both the house and the senate committees that nunes in particular has demolished. remember, that fundraiser is for a member of the leadership of the house who is going along with the whole kind of program. it is clear that they placed themselves as vessels to the white house as protective for to them and one corollary is that it makes them important that one force in town going after truth without fear in favor robert
mueller be allowed to do his job. particularly bad not only trying to protect the president but demonize mueller. weird broken government. working in concert with the white house against a part of the executive. i want to get your response to giuliani talking about this back and forth with the mueller which again, take it with a grain of salt. i have no idea what is going on and this is his concern about why he doesn t want his client to testify about a perjury trap. he knows the answer to every question that he wants to ask. he is going it ask him did you tell comey to go easy on flynn. the president is going to say no i didn t. hey, bob, you know it. why do you want to get him under oath? do you think we are fools? you want to trap him into
perjury. we are not going to let you do that. how great is this? and the other one, chris, is even better. the other question that giuliani says is a paradigm of a perjury trap is why did you fire comey. as to that, we have heard eight different answers from the president of the united states. they have shifting and inconsistent and seven of them are lies. the gotcha strategy by the prosecution to want to hear the truth on this question on which criminal liability and the sort of integrity of the government rests is ludicrous this is exactly the opposite of a perjury trap. this is mr. president, what were you doing and why. what was your state of mind which by the way we do not know contra giuliani and don t know what he is going to say. he said so many different things
so far. this is down the center of what a legitimate prosecutor wants to find out. not just for criminal conduct but for the country and history. can you imagine pressure on the president from congress for him to actually talk to mueller? no. not under this current environment and that will be the issue coming down the road as to having the democratic congress that conducts oversight and doesn t impede a lawful investigation. i find the giuliani statement is amazing. and one of the favorite tweets today, tweeting it is only a perjury trap if you are a liar. there is no perjury trap if you tell the truth. i find giuliani slightly hard to follow and i will confess, and maybe that is me. the president is going to lie, the premise of that thing is the president is going to lie.
and lie about important material things not about was it a tuesday or wednesday which is what a perjury trap would be about. thank you both. thank you, chris. the manafort trial, day eight why the judge had to apologize to the mueller team. and how desperate paul manafort was when he entered the trump team. are you ready to take your wifi to the next level?
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that s big of him. the judge had in fact been wrong. told the prosecution at the beginning of the trial, an expert witness could attend a trial unlike most witnesses allowed in the trial and yesterday lambasted the prosecution for doing that. i don t care what the transcript says, maybe i made a mistake. i am joined by national security and justice reporter julie ainsley. and judge nancy gertner. nancy let me start with you. you have run trials and lots of people reacting to judge ellis s disposition. what is your read on this? this particular one is interesting. the trial begins with a government saying can we have
this expert in the courtroom. the judge says yes, and puts him on the stand. the judge goes on and essentially criticizing the government in front of the judge for having welch in the courtroom during the testimony of other witnesses. the government did something interesting which they haven t done about other comments. literally filed a motion in front of him overnight showing him a transcript of what he had said and the motion he had approved. when the judge gave this curative instruction, it wasn t ambiguous, he was flat out wrong, wrong to admonish the government. never clear what impact that has on the jury. ordinarily, the judge looks to the judge as their representative in a way. he is the one who is the neutral in the case and so when the judge leans on one side in a critical way, that could wind up hurting that side.
sometimes it has the opposite effect. sometimes it could be that the jurors would look at the judge and saying you are going to hard on one side. can t really tell. but from what i understand from the reporting, this wasn t the first example of his. no. of his criticizing the government. julie, you were in the courtroom today, what was it like? that is exactly right. there were times when there were light heartedness from the prosecution. she had to read an emoji, the jury laugh and the judge stayed stone face and any time the defense wasn t ready, a lot of times when they were shuffling pages and he would say go ahead take all the time you need. so there is clearly a heavy handedness here in one direction
and that is against the prosecution. i think it would be hard for the jury not to pick up on that and have that opposite reaction that we just laid out here. it seems to be definitely one-sided. let me ask you about the testify was today. focused on the bank fraud stuff, financial documents, property owned in soho. early 2016, is that right? this was right when paul manafort was in his biggest financial crunch and starting to lie on loan applications, trying to refinance his mortgages and take out another loan for $5 million out of a bank in california with his son-in-law at the time. that was eventually written down to 1 million when it was find they couldn t use a house in bridge hampton because it was in his wife s name. took investigation on account of the bank to figure it out.
to figure out that paul manafort wasn t being forth coming. in some cases they couldn t figure it out because paul manafort had people lying for him and that was one person, cindy laporta. she has immunity. it was one of the dryer days being in the court because the prosecution really did go over a lot of the same evidence they have done before particularly on this howard street residence in new york. you could see the jury yawning and stretching in their chairs the psychology of a district trial judge in a case that you know was a huge deal. the nation is watching this and also from an appeals perspective, you know there is going to be appeals. how does that affect how you run a courtroom when you are dealing with high stakes, high profile trial. it is hard to say in general,
but what you would do, if you were concerned if one side was going too slowly or concerned about the scope of the evidence, what you would do is wait until the jury leaves the room and then admonish one side or the other. what you don t do is do this in front of the jury. but let me put the shoe on the other foot. i have no doubt and this is for after my years as a lawyer and my years as a judge. that if the defense was the focus of these kinds of comments they would be moved for a mistrial in a nano second. you avoid that by making comments if you have to and have to control the proceeding out of the presence of the jury. i understand today that he also said he thought attempted bank fraud wasn t very important. and that is a direct comment on the evidence which you are not allowed to do. yeah.
you are just not allowed to do that. that is a point that i would love to go back to. a part where the prosecution just finished questioning a witness and the defense just got up for cross examination, and he says i hope you focus on a loan that was actually approve. in other words, why did we just waste our time listening to that witness and whole 25, 30 questions that the prosecution laid out. essentially discrediting the case they made. yes? it is not just a question of doing whatever you are going to do, don t do it in front of the jury, number one. and what you do has to do with legal issues and not comments on the evidence. and this sounded like comments on the evidence. he should get anonymous twitter. still, 2018, and women, native-americans, gay people, still, 2018, and women,
native-americans, gay people, the unemployed and under employed have to fight like hell just to survive. and it is clear that trump and others in washington don t give a damn like anyone like me. she will be my guest next. don t go anywhere. the nature of a virus is to change. move. mutate.
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davids. yoder missed no time in attacking her. they have been battling out to see who is most out of touch with this district, lived here the shortest amount of times. it is amazing. they don t know kansas. they don t know our values and neither of them should be our voice in washington d.c. here with me now is sharice davids. yoder continued with a spiel on this front. moved her a few months ago to try and help nancy pelosi win back the house majority. she doesn t share our values. what do you say?
well, i definitely would say that you know, having really seen so much opportunity in my life because of the shird shird district, i started out at johnson college community college, going from there to cornell for law school. to say that i don t know the third district or kansas is laughable. you have an interesting bio. you were in mma for a while, is that right? yeah, i have been a martial artist for a number of years since i was 19 and i did compete in mixed martial arts.
it has been a big part of my life. and then you went to cornell, you were in the obama administration. what prompted you to run for congress? it was about that i don t feel like the third district has been represented well in d.c. and i want to see someone represent our voice and have a decision maker who wants to listen to people in the third district and not just the special interests that he is making sure he stays in office. if you win, what are you going to do when you get there. you get to work on three things your first day if congress, let s say you have a democratic majority, what do you want to do? the key thing that i am hearing over and over every time i talk to people, is the people in the third district are concerned about access to affordable quality health care
and that is the number one thing that i constantly hear from folks here on the ground. so definitely that has to be part of what i work on. and you know, education, education. public education has one, given me a great foundation and then two, it has for so long in this district been the reason that we have been able to thrive. i think that is something of course all of kansas is concerned about. and secondly education. and the third one, there are quite a few things that people are concerned about. the environment is one. certainly, tax, you know, the tax implications of the last bill are another thing. and then immigration issues consistently come up. do you see yourself, they are going it try to make this race about nancy pelosi, already made that clear.
what is your response to you are going to be a proxy for nancy pelosi speakership? well, my response is, look, my entire life has been about trying to make progress and opening doors that have not been made open to people like me, and the lived experience. to say i can be a proxy for someone else when i come from a background that has not been represented in congress before is laughable. i am running for congress so the third district can have a strong representative. thank you so much for your time tonight. thank you. still ahead, tech giants reckoning a right-wing conspiracy theorist. tonight, thing one, thing two, it is a good one, next.
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pizzeria and said that the gay bomb has gotten into the water and turned frogs gay. alex jones is not a joke. he is being sued by some of the people he has targeted including the families of the victims, the massacre at sandy hook elementary school which he claims was staged. as a result, those families have faced harassment and abuse from jones fans. that didn t stop trump from appearing on jones show where he praised the truthers amazing reputation. and jones has depended on media platt forms like youtube, and twitter. his youtube channel alone has more than 2.4 million subscribers and earned more than 17 million views. that was before this week. after months of equivocating on apple, youtube and spotify booted film the platforms, as well as expressions of grerns
some citizen risk who have are no fans of jones. notably he was not banned by twitter. the ceo saying jones had not violated twitter s rules. he elaborated on twitter policy on sean hannity s radio show. any sort of violent speech, encouragement toward violence, harassment is directly against our materials of service and we take immediate action. i wish somebody would just punch hannity in the face. what do you do then? in all the considerations, not to get into specifics, we have to take the context. we have to really understand what the context of the conversation is. late today, noting the content that appears to violate twitter s rules does appear repeatedly on his page. less than an hour later, more than a dozen videos and tweets were deleted. joining me, barry lynn, executive director, expressing
concerns about whose contend should be allowed. as someone who has led these campaigns, how do you think about what the lines are? who is on one side of it and who isn t? actually, there s right and left. there s right and wrong and there s confenlt promotes violence. there s content that passes white nationalism and white supremacy as legitimate political rhetoric. and all of our campaigns are really rooted in this message of the first amendment. alex jones has a first amendment, spotify and twitter have a first amendment, and at color of change, we have a first amendment. and they have the right to put alex jones on the air and we
have a right to mobilize our people and hold them accountable and to tell corporations, if you play footsie with alex jones, you support his content, we are going to hold you accountable. for folks who believe in the market place, freefl speech, this is very much in the best interests of us holding those institutions accountable. did you an interview. you ve talked a lot about the threat of monopoly. in youtube and facebook and they re wrestling with what to do with all their monopoly power. but alex jones seems like low hanging fruitful he is in a special category, isn t he? he is kind of in a special category. you re absolutely right. he is a pretty vile human being. personally i would pray that alex jones sort of burns in hellfire.
but the question is, how, now that we have these corporations, like google and facebook, that have become essential facilities, essential communications net works within our nation, we have to have a conversation that goes beyond sort of asking google and facebook to shut this guy, people like alex jones down. we have to remember, he was to a very large extent a product of the power of google and facebook. you ve got now, youtube, facebook, google, you can watch anything on this and we ll take some of that profit money and we don t have to police it, we don t to have deal with all that. we re just a neutral platform. alex jones is one example.
these platforms are not neutral. as someone who has campaigned for years to force these corporations to actually adhere to the terms and services, they use all sorts of algorithms to serve up information. if i go now and google, for instance, things about white national i or david duke, i will be served up at some point maybe more information on that. so these platforms are not in any way neutral. when they tell you that they are, they are lying to you. we go back and forth. with spotify about alex jones and in particular, about them pulling some of his shows, by pointing to the terms and servicesful i will agree, these platforms have made alex jones, just like some tv networks have made some really vile people in our society as well. that doesn t mean we should tolerate it. the thing i was struck by, like you, a little uneasiness
about how these big tech giants will navigate this going forward. it was the collectiveness of it. they sit around and take no responsibility. alex jones is making them tons of money. they sell ads against him and apple leads the charge and then they all fall like dominos and you wonder when it will rear its head again. that s why we need to make a decision collectively about these corporations. we don t who know they ll do it to next. and this is really, it has been something, this is not the first time we ve seen this problem in america. we saw it in the 19 century with the telegraph system. the owner of the telegraph system. jay gould tried on gain it for his own profit.
but time and again we ve seen this problem and time and again the american people have learned to deal with these communications platforms and make them truly neutral and making sure they re serving us as opposed to serving up vile propaganda to us. please. yeah. before black folks, women, lgbt, these platforms are not neutral just like society is not neutral. four years ago, folks at ferguson were tweeting stories that the main stream media was not covering. and they raised their voices. and america focused its attention on ferguson. at the same time twitter has not been able to get itself together with how it deals with all the attacks on black lives matter activists. there is a long way to go. i agree. but every day, people standing up and pushing back is what we need in this. thank you. we have a podcast, it s. true every tuesday you can get an episode.

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getting coverage. let s just focus on our customers and i think that set us free. the company s growth started relatively slow. until the decision they made to offer a free version of the product. one of the first companies to capitalize on the free model. we were at maybe 100,000 customers at a time and within a year we were at a million and within another year we were at 3 million. and they kept on growing. today the company has 18 million customers and no surprise, the founders have gotten some tantalizing offers including one to buy the company for a billion dollars cash. and you said? i said no, thank you. ben says he and dan did meet to discuss the proposition. that lasted maybe 15 minutes. you know, when something like i have enough money, how about you? yeah, i i ve got enough. but this would be more. but i don t need more. do you need more? no. something happens when employees join and it gets
from his competitors who manufacture overseas. ben clark doesn t mince words. i want to win. f i want to own the market. i want to be the player and that s what s driving me. his fight is personal, backing down is not an option. i have everything wrapped up in the business. this is not a hobby. i ve moved my family here and said we can make it in the cookie cutter business. the owner of ann clark limited, the largest manufacture of cookie cutters in the u.s. runs his company knowing that full way that for his brand to succeed someone else has to falter. every new business that s successful, some other business has to fail. which is why ben has his sights set on the competition. he wants to steal their customers. we can say it 87 different ways but ultimately when we re winning, somebody s losing. for us to grow our market we re going after our chinese competitors. so we re trying to get their business. and that s become our strategy.
ben s mother ann who founded the company in 1989 says her son brought a new dynamic to the business. i m not a real competitive person. he is a really competitive person. for them it was a fun neat, y but i was like no, i need to grow this. nobody knew cookie cutters could be so cut throat. you see it as a fun family oriented product and it is but there s a reason we are where we are and it s mainly because ben is competitive. the number of people buying cookie cutters doesn t change which explains why ben wants a bigger piece of the pie. we assume the number of cutters sold in america is constant. a crucial pitch that they make to retailers is that ann clark s steel cookie cutters are made here in the u.s.a.
a business is supposed to be carrying products that their customers are looking for. are your customers asking for chinese product? of course not. why is that what you re selling? you have an option here. efficiency is a top priority. production costs need to be on par with the competition. ben doesn t want pricing to turn off any customers. what they were doing is buying from whoever had it, whoever had the best price at the moment. we thought, you know, the hardest thing for us to do was to get our cost of manufacturing equal to what it cost to import a cookie cutter from china and we re there so now we can match their price. using newer technology ann clark now fulfills retail and wholesale orders kwkly and the company can offer more cookie cutter designs than ever before. we launch a new shape every week and now we have 2,100 different shapes we can sell. we have constantly looking for what s new, what s the market want and we can launch those
shapes. we can do it in a week. china is three or four months. when ben realized that ann clark wasn t reaching the entire crowd he wanted he turned online. we had stayed away from e commerce because we didn t think you could sell a cookie cutter. that was my biggest mistake. when i walk in in the morning there s a report that tells us how did amazon do, how did our website do. and he s created an influence network of cookie decorators and other ambassadors who help with name recognition. we ve been working with a lot of people through social media. they re in turn helping us to develop our brand. ben keeps a constant eye on his competition but he knows his company has been watched too. we ve seen them launch product which is a direct product line of what we ve launched. when somebody does something on the web the other one will do something on the web.
this rivally has had some tense moments. a one point the two businesses took legal action. we were now competing directly with our chinese competitor, so what did they do? they stopped labeling their product made in china. so we had to sue them to have them label their product made in china. cookie cutters don t carry the label. for ben, that s frustrating. customers look at our cookie cutter and ours says made the the u.s. all over it. the chinese competitor doesn t have to say anything. so even though ann clark sales now make up about 40% of the market locking up deals is even a challenge. you can buy from china or a cookie cutter made in vermont. we thought it was a no brainer. it s not. and so he s continue to build his brand and tell his story and for now, ben and his team are
celebrating the little victories in hopes of toppling the competition. mostly it s one store at a time. you know, our sales people will come in and say hey, sally s kitchen store in wherever has just converted from china to ann clark limited. it s one cookie cutter at a time. i m here in chicago at the internet retailer convention and you cannot talk about internet retail or any retail without talking about amazon and that s why i ve invited jeff cohen to come chat with us. good to see you. thank you for having me. i mean, thank you for coming to talk to us. you are an expert on selling on amazon. it does so much good and causes so much trouble for companies, so if you are a brand, right, i manufacture something, i sell something, how do i get it so that my amazon sales do not cannibalize my own sales? a lot of brands struggle with the idea of do i want to promote
on my traffic to amazon? do i want to sell on amazon? the truth of the matter is your shoppers are shopping on both. and so you have to be on both. and unfortunately, if you don t put your product on amazon, there s a good chance somebody else will. so you want to control that channel, that cycle so that you can know what your shopper is going to see when they are on amazon and when they are on your site. you own the brand, you own the voice, you own the message. ? and how do you decide whether you send them to amazon or your site because for most people it s going to be easier to buy it from amazon, but you make less money. when you decide, what you want to think about is what the is the bigger sales opportunity and amazon has a lot of shoppers looking for products like yours and your competitors and if you can use a little bit of your traffic to send them to amazon, you can take advantage of
amazon s larger ecosystem. let me give you an example. there s a company called vermont teddy bear. so it s a great example of sending traffic to amazon and sending traffic to their own website. within their catalog they actually have amazon exclusive products that you can only buy on amazon and they also use their website. so on february 12th, two days before valentine s day they knew their shoppers would need the products overnight and they sent their traffic to amazon saying if you want to buy this product and you have amazon prime then you know, go to amazon and buy it. interesting. now, let s talk about once you re on amazon. it s really important to get reviews. i know i always look at the reviews. and sure, you can get all of your friends and family to go on there and review, but how do you get the thousands of reviews? yeah, so let s start with what you can and can t do on amazon. you should not ask your friends and family to come and give reviews for you. amazon has a policy that states that anyone with a financial
interest if your business should not leave a review for the product. of course they re going to leave you a good review. so a lot of people tend to go that way, but just be careful and know what you should and shouldn t do. so how do you get your customers to give them? one, you ve got to build a great product. if you don t have add product. that goes without saying. but then how do you get them to do it? you ve got to build a brand experience on amazon. this is the thing that a lot of brands miss. from the listing to your photos, to your product descriptions, to your enhanced brand content to your product packaging you need to tell your whole brand s story so that when you come to them after wards and you ask them for review, you send them an e-mail and ask them for review, they have a connection to you, your brand and your story and therefore, they re willing to do thi something for you. thank you so much. it s all such an important part
for smaller chested women. how big is marketing to your company? it s huge. this is how people find out about it. we launched a press starter and this is going to help spread the word and get people excited and get people to, you know, try our brand out. and are you good, you think you re god at going to an influencer and pitching them an getting them to write about this? yes and this would be an opportunity that would be so good. it would be a huge opportunity to get in front of a bunch of them. congratulations first of all u. i know you are doing this as you are a full time student too. you re talking to two people. katy, she has a blog, an instagram, she s the one she wants writing about you because people care who you think. the second person is the president of she knows who runs blog her and has a lot of relationships with instagramers and bloggers. let s see how you do. thank you. hi.
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Transcripts For DW Conflict Zone - Guest Alexander Stubb 20181025 12:30:00


and the continent of africa on the move the stories about to move a vision of change makers taking their destinies into their own hands. d.w. multimedia series from africa. d.w.m. dot com africa. the opinion is on the brink n.t.e.u. populists are making gains across the continent and britain could leave without a breck s it deal this week conflict zone as in proc well i have caught up with alex the fool my finnish prime minister has launched a campaign to become the next president of the european commission can he fix your op.
ex understood well come to a conflict zone thank you you have launched an unprecedented compared to replays on clothes at the president of the u.p.a. and commission you can paint program talks a lot about values vote if i were to say in one word why i m running for commission president it is values do you peon bell use and when you leave the european space no i think actually european values are global for me they re universal so they have to do with human rights fundamental rights liberty liberal democracy rule of law equality and tolerance are for me these are inalienable they are part of who we are as human beings are a lot of european if they are global let s talk about the vote. he said the e.u. has links with regimes some of which. we talk about
turkey he said and we are right too but never we talked about saudi arabia tell me something about saudi arabia saudi arabia is obviously a middle eastern country very oil rich not democratic gave the right for women to drive cars only the past in the past few years and right now is in the middle of a journalist murder case. so what are the sanctions what are the ideas what is the reaction of the e.u. if you would have been the president today well i think the main tool that the european union has basically are sanctions and obviously with russia we use them because they annexed the crimean peninsula and they have been timid aiding ukraine and then in every specific case we look at what legitimacy has uses if it case sell their rabia yeah first thing you would do is to basically go through what has happened and on the basis of the evidence that you have you get the member states
together to clear this journalist enter the consulate and you never came out so there are no really miracles what happened there and no secrets what happened there that s why again what s about saudi arabia today from your perspective but from my perspective i think we d have to first get the member states together put a declaration and then decide in common on the basis of unanimity on something almost actions by you know i think personally if if this has been if this has been a organized official murder then action must be taken but we don t need to wait for that saudi arabia is responsible for hundreds of thousands of victims children women in yemen it s a brutal war against the civil population what should be the answer of the european union to words that massacre well depends on which massacre you re talking about and by which country i think it s very important i think it s very important to be
i think it s very important to be principled when it comes to foreign policy you have to look at the whole situation in the middle east draw conclusions from that and then see what kind of relationship you have with saudi arabia european relations with saudi arabia or of course not this close for instance as the americans want american want to still very very low as well in the human terran catastrophe in yemen. yes so far has not stopped you peons arm shipments we are involved in europe with this in your opinion should those arms shipments be stopped i think you have to be very careful when it comes to arms shipment and i actually work as the chairman of the board of the crisis management initiative which is mark the uk this august the nobel peace laureate center and we do a lot of work in yemen that this particular moment to try to do peace mediation and of course when it comes to arms it never helps it s again a very concrete question still be stopped on not these arms
yes and no actually it is not about concrete and it s not that black and white because it depends on very well it depends what depends on that you re talking about they re talking about satellite surveillance are you talking about the types of instruments i talk about radio with this option union is supporting a hold on hold you have to be a little bit more specific you have to be a little bit more specific than that the european union is not providing arms it is member states from the europeans are the video maybe the member states that are doing it name the name first which arms they are talking about and which countries are talking about then i guess you re talking no but no you listen listen listen listen if you are you prince don t give me generalities start giving me some concrete starting those that aren t you know about are you principally for or against support of saudi arabia arms or whatever it is it s not i mean foreign policy i m afraid is not that binary you have to look at it from
a much broader perspective i think the key issue when we talk about values is what kind of values you stick to yourself and then you have to take those decisions on those principles so democracy is dictatorship suppressing your own population or not being an aggressive country and regime or no these are the values and we re talking about the values you want to defend in europe. so why not in saudi arabia why not in iran for example well i think in both cases you have to work with the country in question and then if you find in certain cases that there s a blanket breaking of these values then you stop the cooperation the iraq war in iran you re down you mentioned iran for instance i think there it s very important that we stick to the nuclear deal that we did with iran and that we continue to work constructively with the regime i think that nuclear weapons are
a question of the future of mankind and of course if you don t deal with those then what s the point of having values it s also a point of double standards iran is also involved in a lot of massacres is also involved in wars is also involved in syria where hundreds of thousands civilians are not living anymore because iran is involved in that so again they ll use on one hand diplomatic relationship on one hand but to be more active and support these regimes how does this fit with your values while it s of course they don t fit it s very difficult to do and unfortunately we don t live in a world that we all expected would emerge after nine hundred eighty nine where we will be relying on liberal democracy social market economy and globalization the world is not perfect it will not be perfect but i think it s very important that inside the european union we work with these values and of course trying to then
export those values through peaceful means we know that the european union and the member states are exporting arms the sporting relationship on the economic scale saudi arabia or russia or egypt torture and murder show twice and massive scale and the e.u. is still doing businesses with those countries we are talking now about businesses these are the values. europe oh no they are not the values of europe the values of europe have to do with peace prosperity security and stability and we try to work towards those every countries in the world is not going to be german french finnish swedish british or anything for that matter but i think it s very important that we continue to work on the basis of our values you re never going to get it pitch perfect i also must remind that the european union is the biggest aid donor in the world i must also remind that the european union countries have this all of the compensation over no other things we re talking to no it s not it s not that by now
i think the way in which you re trying to present things i find it extremely simplified and black and white if i understand that no don t like don t do this in the world perspective czars or not they are not you re not are not only without ever having to guard other words you re not listening because you re interrupt me constantly so what i m trying to say is that the world is not perfect if i had a choice we would be based on values having liberal democracies a social market economy and cooperate together piece by piece the world is becoming a better place do we stop cooperation with everyone who doesn t agree with us no i don t think we know that we don t talk about cooperation no you try to make it black and white the question is how intensively are european countries and also the european union for example supporting businesses trade and these are the governments and these are the ministers who are improving all
these relation for example with a country like china now you will tell me again we are not china but you and the european union and also your country you are supporting with coming there helping trade for your companies there are these totally terence s stay in and these governments are more in power than they were before how does this match with the values we are talking about. it s definitely not a perfect match but i do think that trade and corporation is a way of bringing nations and entities and areas closer together and my argument this that we re starting to see a china which obviously does a lot of trade do we agree with the way in which they always do business no but i do not believe that we should stop doing that we support more the population in china or the author of having a government if we are coming with a lot of gifts with
a lot of military cooperation with trade who is really helped by this i think populations more than regimes because at the end of the day when it comes to economic growth for pleasure so much better off if you look at g.d.p. per capita growth in china it is much greater than it was before when start trying to started openness you could argue that it s a much more open society than it used to be but it certainly is different but the control is increasing the dictatorship is not decreasing and we have a real fieldwork can talk about that s russia. the relations with russia is a very complicated putting is still suppressing its own population there is still no democracy in russia russia has annexed crimea there is no sign that russia will leave that ukraine territory or stop supporting separatists in eastern ukraine the sanctions which the e.u.
has imposed on moscow do you. think that they are working what are your suggestions about it s actually pretty much the only instrument that we have with russia what you just said i think is absolutely correct and i do think that the european union took a good and principled decision by pushing those sanctions and keeping them up my argument was of course when i was meeting in peace in georgia as a chairman of the o. a c. but this is when russian foreign policy started to change and we started to see a vial. and and grabbing on to territory again this is what we can do with russia i mean we have one thousand three hundred kilometers of border with russia we know a thing or two about how to deal with the russians i think sanctions are the best instrument that we have at this moment they are not working well i would argue that they re working look at the g.d.p. per capita in russia look at the konami growth uninterruptedly is not changing the policy it s true but you know what do you want us to do you do it by force but for me you were just earlier arguing that we should stop relations for instance with
saudi arabia now when i say that now that now i know that i met the relations with i m not sure it s never been a program where developed to speak at all anyway go ahead your question or lecture was europe as part of the pending on energy deliveries from russia if europe was seen this wouldn t it try to wean itself off of russia energy deliveries instead europeans are building more pipelines and russian nuclear reactors that s what you call defending the european values to be strong against russia no it s actually called energy dependency and i do think and i think you re absolutely right that we need to start moving towards more independence in energy and you need to have that as broadest possible but if you look for instance a gas distribution in eastern and central europe it would be impossible to cut off the pipelines at this particular moment. in your platform that state about migration you state we solved the worst migration crisis and now it is time to show
all europeans that the situation is under control what do you mean by so. in the sense that in twenty fifteen we had the biggest migratory for flow into europe since world war two we were talking about a million two million illegal immigrants coming in and if you look at the figures in twenty seventeen and twenty three and they are now at the pre twenty fifteen level so it is much better on control than what is was sort of what does it mean solve the problem is still there you have the war in syria you have afghanistan you have refugees and by paying of turkey to keep the refugees three millions of them and that s what you are saying you saw the problem but again we must stop the illusion of utopia and that everything is perfect i think we have mitigated and in that sense solve the problem now it s a question of how you had minister it and of course as you have read my program you
will see that i have three proposals on how to deal with it in the future as well how can you say that something is so if at the same time you have three millions of refugees and you are dependent from a dictator who is suppressing his own population he is doing the bad work for europe and you are saying the problem is solved now i think what i suggest also in my programme is three things one is to have asylum centers outside the european union in order to be able to solve the problem and of course they should be funded and based on the u.n.h.c.r. secondly i suggest that we have should have a stronger frontex ten thousand and then thirdly i think we should have humanitarian based the silent quote us now will this solve the problem not completely but it will at least alleviate the pain and help it do i feel that the deal with turkey was the right one pro. bubbly it had a time and a place do i like the turkish regime anetta don t know i don t do a like what they do no i don t but right now at this particular moment we don t
have an alternative that means pragmatic policy is. something which has the same value like values. don t understand your point don t know not what happens when you don t like what turkey is doing you don t like the government but you have to understand and we all have to understand this is pragmatic policy it s very pragmatic yes we tried to find a solution to one of the key problems i think that we have in europe which is migration and i think we have been able to mitigate it quite well i think that we have to talk about the key problem which means africa which means some arab countries and then nothing is sold and therefore as you have read my program i also talk about the focus should be on investment in africa through years and years of course it will you know you re talking about you can pay down your program for now you want to be the president in the next month we are talking about now not in three four five years yeah but i mean to be quite honest let s be realistic i have
a five week campaign and if i were to claim that i was told the world problems right now that would be absolutely ridiculous i think. not not at all credible so my argument is that what we need to do is to have more corporation for instance with continents such as africa not least because that continent is going to have four billion people inhabitants in two thousand one hundred so we have a lot of work ahead of us yes another if you are of one of your solutions from you can pay a vote we should establish a quota for humanitarian basis saddam seekers for each member state hungary poland slovakia have all rejected any kinds of quota system how are you going to get european governments to support the idea well as i m sure you were listening a little bit earlier i made that point i can repeat it if you want to this is not about. illegal immigrants as such it s about asylum seekers who are international humanitarian based asylum seekers hungary has not said no on
a humanitarian based asylum seekers this is a key system whereby you from these centers make some kind of a quota and if you don t do it you can use some flexible solidarity but hungary has not said no to that you have to get your facts right if you re trying to be aggressive in your question in no to asylum seekers and many european eastern european countries say that they don t want any muslims this is correct you heard about that i ve heard about that you were talking about values but if you are the president of this organization some of the country s leaders are saying we don t want any muslims this is religious discrimination isn t it yes i would agree that i think you know we must protect minorities for much protect religious freedom and that s why i talk a lot about values but you see i think i mean the problem that i have with your line of question is is that you make a perception that the world is perfect and everyone needs to have the same opinion i am trying my best to improve the world and give problematic solutions and the
feeling that i keep of all the time is that you know will not find a solution if we don t to do it right away and i think as i think we are talking about red lines and racism is a red light in the values and we are now on the racism so i understand your intervention but i apologize here is not black white and here no assumptions of the real let realities far reich center for the parties have gained ground in this country where we are now the czech republic and austria in germany in denmark in hungary in other eastern european countries this is the real europe today and we are talking about this really europe and the question is what happened in the last years and you were also on duty you were prime minister you were part of the european you. and you know these are the red lines used to stop and i fully agree with you what happened was probably two things one was the euro crisis which
caused a lot of instability and the other one was the migration crisis which cost a lot of fear in terms of security and i think the model that we have had of societies social market economy liberal democracy hasn t delivered for everyone and my argument is that we need to address these issues but we cannot do it in an aggressive fashion and that s why i m now standing on the barricades to try to first talk about values because they are the anchor of what we have and then try to do policies on the basis of those this is what the populace is doing the explanation you just gave us is on this one hand the other one is that s not an argument patient to vote for parties who are racist center fabric nationalists so this is a political reality and you know what we did in finland we actually hog the populace to death you might remember that in twenty fifteen they came into government and
they had three promises no more austerity no more money to greece and no more migration what happened we had to push austerity and we bailed out greece and then . for historical reason we had the biggest migration crisis ever their popularity hogged they split us apart and now they re out of government so that s one solution but not we don t like you want to be the president of the you get as they want this said i have voted when my point is that i have dealt with populists before and i will deal with populists in the future as well this is what i want others to help phyllis yes to a certain extent is. is he a dangerous populous i have made it clear that i don t like is a liberal policy so i don t like his attack on academic freedom or on freedom of n.g.o.s or on freedom of press but he is even one of the grooves in u.a.e. p.p. are you in favor of and this is possible it s not as company. then in the u. of excluding open sfi dish party from the e.p. your family yes and the way in which i would suggest that we go through it this one
have a dialogue to have a declaration on values and if unfinished does not sign that declaration of values then they re out viktor orban is and has been also prime minister of hungary has been reelected should hungary be punished by the e.u. for its antidemocratic behavior yes that s why we have article seven that has been put into motion this is what the european union is all about you have to basically show that you put your money where my office you spoke about some reasons not arguments that reasons to understand populism it s only now has a populist anti or starting government that has recently approved a new budget with massive new borrowing they are breaking the rules of eurozone countries on day yes they are and that s why i ve always been very strong on a rules based system the stability and growth pact and i think when you are in bad economic times you should be expansionary when you re good economic times you
should probably do the structural reforms and i m quite savvy and a bit scared to watch what s going on in italy at the moment what would be your reaction on italy oh it would be one to follow the rules so i would be very much the guardian of the treaties on this particular case on the other hand you know that austerity for example in spades or in italy we have there a lot of unemployment use unemployment so poverty on the one hand and principles on the other and what is more important they go hand in hand basically you need to have structural reforms in place you need to have an economy that works in order for you to be able to feed the well first of society it s not a give and take it s not only about growth or austerity you need both you said our values are under attack from both inside and outside. the u.p.d. union which a tag is more serious and dangerous i think they re both dangerous you know the way
in which president donald trump is acting at this particular moment china which we discussed earlier i d much rather we do the good guys do the algorithms then the chinese and then of course russia so that s the attack from the outside and then from the inside it s also worrying you know i do think this is a big problem that s why we need to try to address it whether it s from italy poland remain here or hungary it s something that we need to deal with if we stand true to our values and was a time where we wouldn t have said outside the united states what change i think the u.s. administration changed you know we have a president right now in the united states who is quite unpredictable does this mean that we are stopping our guys yeah i m a predictable obama italy i think hungary yeah when it comes yeah no when it comes to european policy we re quite predictable when it comes to trade when it comes to foreign and security policy when it comes to crisis management when it comes to
believing in the values that is really ours to use to the u.p.a. who are not credible not all of these parties and of credible anyway what is the difference between mr albany and mr trump regarding the fact that it s a small country a big country well of a asli mr orban is a prime minister donald trump is a president of the united states when it comes to values they probably have a lot of similarities but mr orban is not europe he comes from a country of ten million people which is great in and of itself but europe is much more than one specific but members of the engine all member states are going into the direction of totalitarianism of the destruction of the rule for the all the freedom of press this is this really easy on the part of you again and this is exactly the reason that someone needs to stand up on the barricades and defend european and global values wouldn t you agree this is midst of a. no it s me. thank you very much for calling the.
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Transcripts For DW DW News - News 20181116 12:00:00


digital africa starts december twelfth on t w. this is d w news coming to you live from berlin a course in cambodia makes it historic ruling forty years after their crimes were committed to leaders of the brutal camilla rouge are found guilty of genocide and two men are on trial in connection with the deaths of nearly two million people during the regimes reign of terror in the one nine hundred seventy s. . britain faces another day of turmoil as prime minister theresa may takes to the
airwaves to try to save both her controversial rights to deal and her own political future. plus the number of missing after wildfires in california soars to more than six hundred more than sixty or conform to. a one time march and welcome to the program it s been nearly forty years since the camero rouge murdered nearly two million people in cambodia a quarter of the country s population but today for the first time a un by court in the capital phnom penh found two of the regimes leaders guilty of genocide the two defendants. are already serving life sentences for crimes against humanity. this is a long awaited moment to form
a committee rouge leaders known share and kiff samphan are sentenced to life in prison for genocide by a un backed quote. from home. but the chamber has considered the gravity of the crimes including the scale of brutality the number and the vulnerability of the victims for which the accused have been convicted. these two old men the last surviving leaders of the committee rouge already serving life sentences for crimes against humanity but this new verdict is a landmark ruling for the first time it says that the crimes against cambodians vietnamese and cham minorities amounted to genocide delivery of the judgment today in phase two zero zero is in historic achievement in the work of the extraordinary chambers in the courts of. this court is once again demonstrated that he has the capacity to prosecute and try the most complex cases in accordance with
international standards. the committee rouge under its leader pol pot sought to create a communist utopia by forcibly moving people from the cities to the countryside nearly two million cambodians died from overwork starvation a mass executions during its reign of terror from one thousand nine hundred five to nine hundred seventy nine plum pens museums and memorials detail the sheer horror of the past a past that lingers. for all they deserve to get the sentence because they committed such the crimes the rest of my family members were killed and the only child who survived that regime. this is an important moment for cambodia it s courts recognizing that what happened here was indeed genocide. bring in our south east asia correspondent and heartache in bangkok bastion what more can you tell us about the two men who ve just been found guilty of committing
genocide. well terry they were the two most senior figures of the camero regime who are still alive. is or was the deputy of the leader a former khmer rouge leader pol pot who died in one nine hundred ninety eight and. was the head of state under the khmer rouge they were both serving life sentences already for crimes against humanity that they were convicted of in an earlier trial but they deny any responsibility. for these for these crimes and they were indicted in this trial with along with two other senior figures of the clear regime but because this is already almost forty years after the end of that regime and the defendants are very old one hundred eighty seven and the other two have died when the trial was still in progress which took it took several took several years this
trial so they were the last two that could have been or that that could be convicted in this trial. now these verdicts were a long time in coming the court s work has been controversial hasn t it. it has for one because it s been such a long time since the end of the rule cambodia from one hundred seventy five to nine hundred seventy nine so it s been almost forty years until these verdicts and also because there are critics who are saying this should go further that there should be more than more than these two or three people who were convicted of crimes against humanity during that time but cambodian prime minister who has been in power for thirty years and who is a former member of the khmer rouge himself he strongly opposes that he says that would destabilize the country and since he wields almost unlimited power in
cambodia it s very unlikely that we re going to see more trials go ahead terry. thank you so much that was our correspondent talking to us from bangkok. british prime minister theresa may is stepping up efforts to defend her controversial breaks that deal today may has said the country will be plunged into a deep and great uncertainty if the drug plan is abandoned as well as a tumultuous day on thursday when several cabinet members resigned including breaks it secretary dominic rob may is also facing a back lash from her own party with hard line breaks and tears seeking to challenge earlier ship but in the last hour a key pro brags that boysen teresa mayes top ministerial team environment secretary michael gove has confirmed that he is staying in his post and says he has confidence in may yesterday he was reportedly offered a job as new brakes at secretary prime minister theresa may was tight lipped about
that in a radio interview earlier but have you offered him the road trip now i don t talk about things they do with to do with the company company reshuffle and i happen to point to the new secretary at but always i ll be doing that over the course of the next year as i will remember if you are a busy man could i get on the book is and talk about how to michael gove who both now and i have to say the cover was made you can sort of root in my life i don t bet on anything to do with politics right i d advise you not to i thought all right we ll have to we ll wait and see. ok let s bring in our correspondent in london barrett matias standing by there for us there get it was rumored that michael go would step down to in light of all the developments regarding the braggs it deal now he s confirmed that he s staying what does his support mean for the prime minister. i think it says something about the state of british politics when it s big news that somebody is not stepping down it says something about series of may s
difficulties she had many ministers stepping down but now michael gave a crucial ally is staying he said he wants to bring the deal to a better place and i presume what do you means he wants to bring it to a better place in parliament here where we are this is where the dia finally has to be accepted after it s formally also agreed with the e.u. but then in parliament that s their presumption that there will be a vote in december at the moment it looks very very tight the very more looks like the reason may we ll have a hard time to get a tree but people like michael gove want to work on it and want to help her get it through parliament now the drug deal is being hotly discussed of course saw throughout the united kingdom our reporters were on the streets of london last night getting some reaction. chaos anger and confusion not just inside parliament but on the streets of london as well for the people here outside westminster the bracks a drama is anything but it done deal means no go. until
recently. was a possibility it is now we. must agree now it s our time to go back to the country and give them a choice do you want this deal that the government s negotiated all deal on say to remain within the your opinion. is just ridiculous as a willing to kill. was the opinions and your opinion stay definitely say the original vote was made with all the information that people needed really to make the decision people s votes no. across the city it s all i saw in the case politicians and their heated bricks acho down and it s not just remain us who don t like the deal frank said tears on happy to. the politicians five foot. and. something in the middle well at the end of the day the
referendum was a binary choice was winston churchill said a majority of is enough. i voted to leave i m not going to lie but right now i would stay we need to fight the bricks that. the difficult compromises haven t united the two sides have to be paid on the country great citizen remain assumed to be further apart than ever but on one thing they do agree this is not the deal they want for their country. so the tears and remain are is both on a happy bear giteau what are the main problems that people have with the stress deal. well i would say a lot of people in the country actually really nothing to do with it anymore because for them it s really too complicated and they just want to get it on the and they don t want to hear about it anymore but underneath there is
a lot of confusion in the country and a lot of anger like melissa described in her piece because for the breaks for the people who voted bricks a day a lot of them had these magic figures like three hundred fifty million more for the n.h.s. and now it looks like nothing like that will transpire or at least not in the very short future and for people who are desperate to remain in the u. any deal it s reason may is striking is not as good as e.u. membership so you know you ve got these different expectations and it s very difficult with a compromise to get through a recent poll has come out and that said that forty percent of british people are now defining the themselves as very clearly either leave or remain so to change their attitudes will be quite challenging so it s really a big task for the m.p. s and also if it s reason may to sort of bring the country to behind whatever she is going to end up agreeing with brussels very good thank
you very much for now v.w. spirit must there in london. now to some other stories making headlines around the world today at least forty two people have been killed in a bus accident in zimbabwe twenty others were injured some with severe burns police have not given details but local media reporting a gas cylinder explosion may be the cause bus was reportedly travelling to neighboring south africa the incident paulo s another deadly bus accident in zimbabwe last week when fifty people were killed in a collision. japan s prime minister shinzo ave has paid a historic visit to the australian city of darwin ave on his australian counterpart scott morrison laid a wreath at the darwin center top of a is the first japanese leader to visit the city since it was bombed by the japanese army in world war two. and an iconic swimming pool painting by british artist david hockney has sold for ninety million dollars in new york the winning
bid at christie s set a new record at auction for a living artist painted the work called portrait of an artist pool with two figures in one thousand nine hundred eighty two. the number of people still missing in california as wildfire has gone up to more than six hundred at least sixty are confirmed dead firefighters have managed to contain most of the blaze in the north of the states thousands have been returning to their communities but for some people there s nothing left. this is what it looks like to lose everything. ok i hope you and quick well that s all i can say. while my yosh words can t describe it. words can t describe it.
and how can they when all you re left with is the clothes on your back everywhere signs of a life well lived now gone. this home one of more than six thousand destroyed in a town named paradise. the epicenter of california s deadliest ever wildfire for jonathan clark there s another reason to come back here his brother is missing. we re still trying or do whatever it takes is found. dead or alive that s just what clarksdale we look out for each other so. so many people here were caught by surprise when high winds fans the deadly flames through that town now authorities
simply can t be sure how many human remains alive beneath the ash. machine of chaos of what s happened in neighborhoods like these distorting the numbers. i want you to stand that there are a lot of people displaced and we re finding that a lot of people don t know that we re looking for them and that is why we re publishing this list. firefighters are still trying to contain the camp fire one of three wildfires raging in california this one is said to be forty percent under control it will take two more weeks to put out completely. chancellor angela merkel is due to visit the city of kenneth s today her trip to the eastern german city comes nearly three months after a series of far right demonstrations and counter protests in rest in bold scenes of right wing extremists chasing migrants through the streets and then stray sions and
in searing violence came after a man was stabbed to death allegedly by two asylum seekers many residents of candidates held days of rallies in support of the extremists merkel has been criticized for not visiting the city sooner city remains deeply divided. it s difficult for roller salai to watch these images. on the twenty sixth of august a right wing mob rampage through the streets of kenneth chanting this is our city later that evening they attacked people they took for foreigners and a group of social democratic politicians. stood up to them. i. know that but also fast i was completely beside myself i i cried so much because it was so emotional afterwards i really had to find my.
role as sally is a social worker seventeen years ago she fled from lebanon to germany now she gives advice and support to young refugees who have just arrived in germany for many of them racist hostilities are part of everyday life says i ve been gay for most of them say nasty words or leave this is our country our candidates why the states will live in syria the mood in chemist s has changed many refugees and migrants living here say that on fridays they re too scared to leave the house. it s on fridays that the right wing populist pro chemist s alliance holds their weekly rally around a thousand people gather to spread fear and hate. charms not so i know i m afraid that i ll be attacked or raped by some migrants if i go out on the streets alone at night. it s good sitcom nothing s gotten better because everything is so expensive
and those doc is get the money it s unbelievable one aside most of them vote for the far right a.f.d. which became the second strongest force in chemists in the bundestag elections like many others rolo sell a is worried about social peace in the city the division in chemists is growing. i mean it s easy to add strong we re seeing that some people in camden it s via migrants and some migrants fear the people of candidates there are a lot of discussions on the matter i lead some of them personally i ve been speaking with muslims and townspeople i always ask what s the problem when. they are calling us in the altar really wants to encourage those who for main silent to take action as a sign of solidarity against the right wingers had in mind that this is my city i will be forced out i ll continue my fight against racism and discrimination. rule a sollie would have liked chancellor angela merkel to visit earlier she says people
in chemist s should feel that their fears are being taken seriously. the struggling german national football team netted three goals in a dominant win over russia last night germany fielded a young and fairly inexperienced side for the friendly in leipsic it was twenty two year old nero sana who grabbed the first goal in the eight minute to put the hosts in front of the class soon if followed that up by scoring in the twenty fifth minute. can operate out of a third. on monday germany go on to face the netherlands in the european nations. now tennis great roger federer has won ninety nine titles in his era defining career and last night in london he brought himself closer to his one hundred federer guaranteed himself a place in the final four at the a.t.p.
finals as he cruised past south african kevin anderson. less than a week ago federer was dealt a drubbing by cain issue cooling he s back on for now though as his pinpoint backhands test i it was kevin anderson who knocked federer out of wimbledon this year after a marathon quarter final but this one really looks like it would go the distance at four all in the first set federer broke the south african serve before holding his own to take the six six for. the thirty seven year old remains dominant a confident approach to the net leaving anderson no chance here i am soon enough the deal was sealed six four six three. federer is a six time champion here and he s not getting too worked up about the prospect of making it seven. for me i ve always wanted to go out with a bang today and win the match if i go through great if i don t well i don t deserve to be through it it s ok to some i m out of still alive and i hope i can
play a good match on the day after more i m not sure when i m playing. that one hundredth korea title is weaving. over to gregg s or to get. food to break. and the break that debate is getting investors and businesses at least getting their attention you can say that at the pound has managed to regain half a percentage point against the dollar clawing back some of its losses off the substantial slide overnight traders have fit the political turmoil could see the u.k. crash out of the european union without a break the deal sterling s volatility is the highest since twenty sixteen it s lost around two percent against the dollar since tuesday and tourism may announce a draft brags that it remains business owners fear that without a deal in place supply chains my abruptly because when britain leaves the e.u.
in. what is by the mounting opposition to may s proposal somebody companies see it as their best hope. the prime minister is desperate for a huge and damaging five year deep deep misgivings they all seem to have of the fourth teresa mayes draft breaks a plan. but business owners see it differently. it s going to be straightforward and simple if the deal once the deal goes along there s going to be some problems. those problems might look like this a long line of trucks good sitting still costing money in time a disaster for any firm but the current arrangement would give businesses time to adjust to the post breaks it landscape at least until the end of twenty twenty that s because the u.k. would remain in the e.u. customs union until a trade deal is in place and it would abide by e.u. regulations that means goods traveling across the border won t run up against tolls or inspections business will keep moving more business leaders are speaking out in
favor of the draft including the c.e.o. s of airbus and major trade groups their take questions remain but the draft appears better than no deal parts of the draft are still difficult for some to swallow the city of london will be limited to offering financial products and services already found in the e.u. it will still have access to the market but the same access as other countries but certainly at that does not appear to be anything within that three paragraphs that would appear to offer the u.k. financial services a better relationship with them perhaps to paddle the u.s. and that s why many financial institutions have moved some of their operations to the continent. let s see what the markets have calmed down and cross over to offer national correspondent don cope in frankfurt have investors the digested these tomatoes events in the u.k. now give us an update. well garrett investors are clearly monitoring what is happening right now in the u.k.
i guess you can see it in the background we actually started here in the green but it seems that really the path off to reserve may in the next days could become even more difficult and as a result we are seeing shares tumbling here again at the blue chip index stocks are down here at the moment with about twenty five points and also when we re taking a look over to the footsie one hundred in london a similar situation there the footsie one hundred down with one percent and mostly the shares of banks are suffering r.b.s. for example is down at the moment with four percent you mentioning banks with the leaders of many financial institutions are currently gathered in frankfurt what do they make of the turmoil in london there what are you hearing well they have to prepare pretty much for every scenario i mean we have to remember that big banks and financial institutions have already moved in the last months and weeks hundreds of their employees from their headquarters in london over to other european cities
also here to frankfurt so here they are also monitoring all of this what s happening over there with some concern donna koeppen frank thank you. in south africa schools are rushing to add computer programming and other high tech classes to the curriculum and as coding clubs become increasingly popular some youngsters have found their own way to find out who s got the best coding skills. it s two pm on a wednesday in the south african township of i report just a few kilometers from pretoria a few dozen fifth graders are back at school armed with basic coding blocks laptops and endless imagination competing against each other many of their ideas are inspired by problems they ve experienced within their communities. we ve heard in the news and in the newspapers that children most of the time i getting lost so he
came with an idea of saying to stop this maybe we should come. and then she wanted to be able to keep the children safe and to keep the parents miss concerned about their children s safety i hope that that can be able to. help people. think. in. kids working to build an incubator the talent here is amazing and the government is catching on in september the south african ministry of education said it would get behind the concept of coding clubs after kenya and botswana have to validate similar ideas for now the high tech classes are mostly run by n.g.o.s. since education is changing. its course and. programming that we fought so we also need to be prepared to.
move forward into the. education of the world economic forum estimates that more than half of all jobs in twenty twenty two will require new skills many of them related to technology coding specifically will be the foundation of careers in fields from science to engineering and financial services. for some of the kids and i report their local coding club could be a real door opener. business here s a reminder of the top stories we re following for you when bucks tribunal in cambodia has found two leaders of the camaro rouge guilty of genocide the two defendants. long already serving life sentences for crimes against humans the regime presided over the deaths of nearly two million people in cambodia in the nineteenth. dogs in g.w. news live from berlin there s more news on the top of the video that s what drink
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